[禁藥] 收集員的自白

看板MLB (美國職棒/大聯盟)作者時間14年前 (2012/02/29 08:39), 編輯推噓37(37021)
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http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/140745823.html Pleasant Prairie - The man who collected Ryan Braun's urine sample released a statement Tuesday: "On February 24th, Ryan Braun stated during his press conference that "there were a lot of things that we learned about the collector, about the collection process, about the way that the entire thing worked that made us very concerned and very suspicious about what could have actually happened." Shortly thereafter, someone who had intimate knowledge of the facts of this case released my name to the media. I am issuing this statement to set the record straight. "I am a 1983 graduate of the University of Wisconsin and have received Master Degrees from the University of North Carolina and Loyola University of Chicago. My full-time job is the director of rehabilitation services at a health care facility. In the past, I have worked as a teacher and an athletic trainer, including performing volunteer work with Olympic athletes. I am a member of both the National Athletic Trainers' Association and the Wisconsin Athletic Trainers' Association. "I have been a drug collector for Comprehensive Drug Testing since 2005 and have been performing collections for Major League Baseball's Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program since that time. I have performed over 600 collections for MLB and also have performed collections for other professional sports leagues. I have performed post-season collections for MLB in four separate seasons involving five different clubs. "On October 1, 2011, I collected samples from Mr. Braun and two other players. The CDT collection team for that day, in addition to me, included three chaperones and a CDT coordinator. One of the chaperones was my son, Anthony. Chaperones do not have any role in the actual collection process, but rather escort the player to the collection area. "I followed the same procedure in collecting Mr. Braun's sample as I did in the hundreds of other samples I collected under the Program. I sealed the bottles containing Mr. Braun's A and B samples with specially-numbered, tamper-resistant seals, and Mr. Braun signed a form certifying, among other things, that the specimens were capped and sealed in his presence and that the specimen identification numbers on the top of the form matched those on the seals. "I placed the two bottles containing Mr. Braun's samples in a plastic bag and sealed the bag. I then placed the sealed bag in a standard cardboard Specimen Box which I also sealed with a tamper-resistant, correspondingly-numbered seal placed over the box opening. I then placed Mr. Braun's Specimen Box, and the Specimen Boxes containing the samples of the two other players, in a Federal Express Clinic Pack. None of the sealed Specimen Boxes identified the players. I completed my collections at Miller Park at approximately 5:00 p.m. Given the lateness of the hour that I completed my collections, there was no FedEx office located within 50 miles of Miller Park that would ship packages that day or Sunday. "Therefore, the earliest that the specimens could be shipped was Monday, October 3. In that circumstance, CDT has instructed collectors since I began in 2005 that they should safeguard the samples in their homes until FedEx is able to immediately ship the sample to the laboratory, rather than having the samples sit for one day or more at a local FedEx office. The protocol has been in place since 2005 when I started with CDT and there have been other occasions when I have had to store samples in my home for at least one day, all without incident. "The FedEx Clinic Pack containing Mr. Braun's samples never left my custody. Consistent with CDT's instructions, I brought the FedEx Clinic Pack containing the samples to my home. Immediately upon arriving home, I placed the FedEx Clinic Pack in a Rubbermaid container in my office which is located in my basement. My basement office is sufficiently cool to store urine samples. No one other than my wife was in my home during the period in which the samples were stored. The sealed Specimen Boxes were not removed from the FedEx Clinic Pack during the entire period in which they were in my home. On Monday, October 3, I delivered the FedEx Clinic Pack containing Mr. Braun's Specimen Box to a FedEx office for delivery to the laboratory on Tuesday, October 4. At no point did I tamper in any way with the samples. It is my understanding that the samples were received at the laboratory with all tamper-resistant seals intact. "This situation has caused great emotional distress for me and my family. I have worked hard my entire life, have performed my job duties with integrity and professionalism, and have done so with respect to this matter and all other collections in which I have participated. Neither I nor members of my family will make any further public comments on this matter. I request that members of the media, and baseball fans, whatever their views on this matter, respect our privacy. And I would like to sincerely thank my family and friends for their overwhelming support through this difficult time. Any future inquiries should be directed to my attorney Boyd Johnson of Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr LLP." 簡單的說就是: 1) 收集完的時候已經五點,50 miles內沒有快遞可以在當天或星期天把樣本送出去 2) 所以按照程序,他把樣本拿回家裡的冰箱暫時保存 3) 當天還有兩位球員的樣本和Braun放一起 4) 樣本沒有被加料 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.25.133

02/29 08:44, , 1F
他沒有放冰箱,是放在他家地下室,不過他說溫度達到標準
02/29 08:44, 1F

02/29 09:21, , 2F
沒放冰箱 只說地下室溫度sufficient to store samples
02/29 09:21, 2F

02/29 09:22, , 3F
所以規定的溫度到底是多少? 那時候的室溫可以到達四度c嗎
02/29 09:22, 3F

02/29 09:35, , 4F
我看成白目的收集員...
02/29 09:35, 4F

02/29 09:51, , 5F
MVP怎麼可以因禁藥而被禁賽咧~>.^
02/29 09:51, 5F

02/29 10:31, , 6F
MVP*
02/29 10:31, 6F

02/29 10:52, , 7F
余文?
02/29 10:52, 7F

02/29 10:53, , 8F
有乳摸說洩密的是Braun方面的人士? ...
02/29 10:53, 8F

02/29 10:58, , 9F
所以照收集員的話推理,沒加料還是檢驗出問題?
02/29 10:58, 9F

02/29 10:59, , 10F
然後球員方面用違反標準程序把這項指控推掉了?
02/29 10:59, 10F

02/29 11:06, , 11F
就說是辛普森戰術了咩~
02/29 11:06, 11F

02/29 11:11, , 12F
還是改變不了陽性的事實
02/29 11:11, 12F

02/29 11:30, , 13F
事實上就是他不用被禁賽 也沒證明他有用藥 不用在旁邊嘴砲
02/29 11:30, 13F

02/29 11:40, , 14F
有證明阿 就是驗出synthetic testosterone
02/29 11:40, 14F

02/29 11:41, , 15F
Braun方面可也沒否認這點,只是針對蒐證程序進行質疑
02/29 11:41, 15F

02/29 11:41, , 16F
有點類似抓猴,用針孔攝影機去偷拍
02/29 11:41, 16F

02/29 11:42, , 17F
雖然可證明確有出軌行為,但是因是非法搜證,所以無效
02/29 11:42, 17F

02/29 11:43, , 18F
Das應該是認為沒把樣本立即送出所以無效這樣
02/29 11:43, 18F

02/29 11:44, , 19F
毒樹果嗎.....
02/29 11:44, 19F

02/29 11:59, , 20F
BRAUN跟辛普森同個級數的
02/29 11:59, 20F

02/29 11:59, , 21F
這只會讓他今年球季開始 會讓人用放大鏡檢視表現啊..
02/29 11:59, 21F

02/29 12:00, , 22F
有在看CSI就知道,不合程序的證據在法庭上是無效的,辛普森案
02/29 12:00, 22F

02/29 12:02, , 23F
的終極明星律師團這方面很強
02/29 12:02, 23F

02/29 12:04, , 24F
但有沒有合程序又是另一個問題了,照收集員的說法 他完全
02/29 12:04, 24F

02/29 12:04, , 25F
有合程序操作
02/29 12:04, 25F

02/29 12:05, , 26F
而且在藥檢的情形下,照WADA的慣例,上訴不但要找出
02/29 12:05, 26F

02/29 12:06, , 27F
不合程序的地方,還要證明這個操作問題會導致藥檢失真
02/29 12:06, 27F

02/29 12:07, , 28F
歸根究柢還是因為BRAUN有錢 所以律師夠強
02/29 12:07, 28F

02/29 12:07, , 29F
Braun看起來並無法證明樣本放地下室兩天會導致陽性反應
02/29 12:07, 29F

02/29 12:07, , 30F
這也難怪WADA和UASDS會覺得這判決很有問題了
02/29 12:07, 30F

02/29 12:09, , 31F
反正就等著成績被放大檢視吧
02/29 12:09, 31F

02/29 12:12, , 32F
看他今年沒吃藥成績會變怎樣囉
02/29 12:12, 32F

02/29 12:20, , 33F
沒想到MLB也有程序優於實體原則的適用XD
02/29 12:20, 33F

02/29 12:31, , 34F
因為老美就是吃這一套啊
02/29 12:31, 34F

02/29 12:37, , 35F
這叫毒樹果實吧
02/29 12:37, 35F

02/29 12:44, , 36F
還是出軌了
02/29 12:44, 36F

02/29 12:48, , 37F
雖然我對於這程序正義有意見, 不過既然無罪了 就期望他今年
02/29 12:48, 37F

02/29 12:48, , 38F
打得好一點囉 :)
02/29 12:48, 38F

02/29 13:23, , 39F
程序正義是法律中很重要的一環 管你有沒有錢都一樣
02/29 13:23, 39F

02/29 14:33, , 40F
並無法證明樣本保持的完整性,就算驗出老鼠藥也沒用
02/29 14:33, 40F

02/29 14:58, , 41F
身為鄉民 個人還是相信Braun 有吃藥
02/29 14:58, 41F

02/29 15:13, , 42F
藥檢沒過就是沒過,開季如果打不好他就慘囉!
02/29 15:13, 42F

02/29 16:13, , 43F
針對樣本保持的完整性這一點,在採集樣本後,一共有三道
02/29 16:13, 43F

02/29 16:15, , 44F
封條,之後檢驗時證實三道封條仍是完整。無論中間樣本是
02/29 16:15, 44F

02/29 16:16, , 45F
放在什麼溫度和什麼地方,不可能自行產生 synthetic
02/29 16:16, 45F

02/29 16:17, , 46F
testosterone。程序問題讓Braun不用禁賽,但不代表他沒
02/29 16:17, 46F

02/29 16:17, , 47F
吃藥。
02/29 16:17, 47F

02/29 16:20, , 48F
反正我是信了
02/29 16:20, 48F

02/29 16:37, , 49F
不過這倒是開個球界先例了
02/29 16:37, 49F

02/29 17:53, , 50F
不相信他沒吃藥 但是也沒辦法
02/29 17:53, 50F

02/29 19:42, , 51F
總之他可以出賽 已經達成目的了
02/29 19:42, 51F

02/29 19:46, , 52F
犀利哥怎麼還不出來
02/29 19:46, 52F

02/29 21:14, , 53F
所以只是因為程序問題 而不是驗出內容問題
02/29 21:14, 53F

02/29 21:14, , 54F
反正他這幾年成績最好不要低落...
02/29 21:14, 54F

02/29 22:25, , 55F
回樓上,低落又怎樣。還不是比鍵盤XX強。我可不是鍵盤法官。
02/29 22:25, 55F

03/01 04:05, , 56F
我比較好奇B瓶有沒有驗出來XD
03/01 04:05, 56F

03/01 07:04, , 57F
白目的收集員+1
03/01 07:04, 57F

03/01 15:01, , 58F
B瓶也有驗出來 synthetic testosterone
03/01 15:01, 58F
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