[情報] 球探評達比修有

看板MLB (美國職棒/大聯盟)作者時間14年前 (2012/04/17 13:26), 編輯推噓55(55054)
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http://tinyurl.com/6uyzuu7 A scout who saw Rangers right-hander Yu Darvish against the Twins on Saturday was not especially impressed. “He’s going to give up a ton of hits,” the scout said. “A lot of his fastballs are very straight. The guy is supposed to throw hard. But he basically pitched at 89 to 92, touching 93-94. That’s pretty good in Japan. It’s not very good here. “He has a good cutter, a good curveball. But when he gets in trouble, he turns into a breaking-ball guy – nibble, nibble, he won’t let it go. He reminded me of Dice-K.” Darvish’s results in his first two starts – 17 hits allowed in 11 1/3 innings, nine strikeouts, eight walks – support the scout’s contentions. Darvish, however, noted after Saturday’s game that he is still adjusting to the majors, and the Rangers believe his stuff and performance will improve once he settles into a routine and develops a better feel for what he wants to achieve. He certainly is capable of better – he struck out 11 in six innings March 30 in a Cactus League game against the Rockies. “I think it’s safe to say that Mr. Darvish was as advertised,” Rockies manager Jim Tracy said that day. “Tremendous arm speed, a great mix or pitches, pitches to both side of the plate.” -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.109.64.127

04/17 13:29, , 1F
不要再PO井川的文章了
04/17 13:29, 1F

04/17 13:30, , 2F
是abc 要戰了嗎
04/17 13:30, 2F

04/17 13:30, , 3F
還不是靠______
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04/17 13:32, , 4F
看完第一段就end 達爾球速根本沒問題吧 兩場均近93 還嫌?
04/17 13:32, 4F

04/17 13:35, , 5F
一句話!! 就還沒到主宰大聯盟的能力,結案,下一位....
04/17 13:35, 5F

04/17 13:35, , 6F
達爾的stuff在 只是他的command問題這兩場完全現型
04/17 13:35, 6F

04/17 13:38, , 7F
陷入掉分危機不敢直球對決
04/17 13:38, 7F

04/17 13:38, , 8F
這篇相當中肯 達比和偉殷的配球形態很相近 直球為主體
04/17 13:38, 8F

04/17 13:38, , 9F
所以當天直球的狀況好壞 會決定他今天挨多少打
04/17 13:38, 9F

04/17 13:39, , 10F
雖然達比有多樣的變化球可以掩護
04/17 13:39, 10F

04/17 13:40, , 11F
多樣沒用 command不夠好的話 對於選球樂勝日職打者的
04/17 13:40, 11F

04/17 13:40, , 12F
MLB球員來說 引誘性有限
04/17 13:40, 12F

04/17 13:41, , 13F
但缺乏尾勁和精準控球的4S 會相對減少變化球的震攝力
04/17 13:41, 13F

04/17 13:43, , 14F
偉殷的Debut戰 其實也有出現類似的問題
04/17 13:43, 14F

04/17 13:44, , 15F
第一局比較慢熱及第六局的控球突然消失 就失去壓制力
04/17 13:44, 15F

04/17 13:44, , 16F
其它時間 偉殷的直球控位都相當不錯 亦收到效果
04/17 13:44, 16F

04/17 13:45, , 17F
結論 光靠直球的球速 無法撐過太多場先發
04/17 13:45, 17F

04/17 13:46, , 18F
因為對手正在適應及研究達比 他必須趕快調整過來
04/17 13:46, 18F

04/17 13:48, , 19F
問題就在他的直球
04/17 13:48, 19F

04/17 14:15, , 20F
想拼三振 => 變成保送
04/17 14:15, 20F

04/17 14:22, , 21F
Is Darvish Worth $51.7+60 Million?
04/17 14:22, 21F

04/17 14:28, , 22F
最好他速球沒問題啦..
04/17 14:28, 22F

04/17 14:47, , 23F
意思是說他直球跟潘威倫一樣直囉
04/17 14:47, 23F

04/17 15:09, , 24F
跪求中譯
04/17 15:09, 24F

04/17 15:18, , 25F
他的速球超囧 超發球機的
04/17 15:18, 25F

04/17 15:20, , 26F
是stuff太差嗎?
04/17 15:20, 26F

04/17 15:22, , 27F
Stuff絕對有 但是優勢在遞減中
04/17 15:22, 27F

04/17 15:22, , 28F
以數據來說 目前WHIP值為2.21 囧
04/17 15:22, 28F

04/17 15:24, , 29F
目前正規賽的樣本數還不夠 還不適合用數據來評論
04/17 15:24, 29F

04/17 15:25, , 30F
春訓的WHIP值 則大致上說明了 現在的情況
04/17 15:25, 30F

04/17 15:26, , 31F
還有 他現在的被打擊率是.340
04/17 15:26, 31F

04/17 15:31, , 32F
陳偉殷跟達比修除了同是亞洲人外根本沒啥好比的-_-
04/17 15:31, 32F

04/17 15:31, , 33F
任何投手直球吃屎都會很麻煩,他還能丟老人球應付,陳的
04/17 15:31, 33F

04/17 15:32, , 34F
話問題會更大。這兩人投球形態一點也不像
04/17 15:32, 34F

04/17 15:32, , 35F
我想有一個問題就是他的直球的command
04/17 15:32, 35F

04/17 15:32, , 36F
問題不是控球精不精準,是他丟進去的球打者都打得到,都
04/17 15:32, 36F

04/17 15:33, , 37F
打得到只好越丟越邊邊角角,他的控球不是那麼大的問題
04/17 15:33, 37F

04/17 15:33, , 38F
直球的威力完全不見才是
04/17 15:33, 38F

04/17 15:53, , 39F
有人有他以前在日本對左打的數據嗎?
04/17 15:53, 39F
還有 30 則推文
04/17 17:13, , 70F
不要跟阿派認真..
04/17 17:13, 70F

04/17 17:17, , 71F
嘛 米國派就是這樣啊 反串想紅 但是實在太沒梗
04/17 17:17, 71F

04/17 17:22, , 72F
沒梗派不用認真吧.. 他的梗笑不出來又冷場
04/17 17:22, 72F

04/17 17:23, , 73F
派應該超討厭日職的吧 XDD
04/17 17:23, 73F

04/17 17:25, , 74F
反串那麼久 還是這樣 真悲哀 XD
04/17 17:25, 74F

04/17 17:30, , 75F
以前在日職失投直球也沒人打到,但在美職就會被打
04/17 17:30, 75F

04/17 17:39, , 76F
MLB選球樂勝日職與美國派是三流反串一樣天經地義
04/17 17:39, 76F

04/17 17:55, , 77F
球再多種你一次也只能投一顆
04/17 17:55, 77F

04/17 18:05, , 78F
現在才發現老王光靠靠一個伸卡球就能活在一級戰區真的很神
04/17 18:05, 78F

04/17 18:09, , 79F
細膩度從選球就看得出來,別再說npb比較細膩,這點mlb也是贏的
04/17 18:09, 79F

04/17 18:11, , 80F
MO也是靠一顆A+的
04/17 18:11, 80F

04/17 18:19, , 81F
那時候TOR、BAL、TB能存活下來的投手才叫神吧....
04/17 18:19, 81F

04/17 18:21, , 82F
可能很多人對MLB的印象就是V葛那種大海好球帶吧
04/17 18:21, 82F

04/17 18:22, , 83F
然後每個打者都是工業用人體風扇在打擊
04/17 18:22, 83F

04/17 19:25, , 84F
不過牛肉的速球在大聯盟還有中上等級 達比修的看起來像發球
04/17 19:25, 84F

04/17 19:25, , 85F
機冏
04/17 19:25, 85F

04/17 19:58, , 86F
王葛格本身在NYY就不用面對NYY,佔很大優勢了好嗎...
04/17 19:58, 86F

04/17 19:58, , 87F
況且王葛格對襪襪成績不是很好吧...印象中對光芒也不好..
04/17 19:58, 87F

04/17 19:59, , 88F
擁有一顆很殺的招牌球種帶你上天堂~~~
04/17 19:59, 88F

04/17 19:59, , 89F
一堆人被媒體造神造到以為葛格跟假日同等級,真讓人無言
04/17 19:59, 89F

04/17 20:00, , 90F
每天美東美東,季後賽對美中笑臉人,炸得很歡樂不是嗎~
04/17 20:00, 90F

04/17 20:04, , 91F
王不到頂級啦 但應該是水準之上的了 今年看他傷癒復出的表現
04/17 20:04, 91F

04/17 20:10, , 92F
像達比修在TEX 就沒什麼優勢
04/17 20:10, 92F

04/17 20:17, , 93F
達比修不用面對遊騎兵 應該也是優勢 遊騎兵的火力不弱
04/17 20:17, 93F

04/17 20:18, , 94F
加上遊騎兵應該是今年季後賽的熱門隊伍
04/17 20:18, 94F

04/17 21:00, , 95F
不意外,日職時,command就不好了,變化球更明顯
04/17 21:00, 95F

04/17 21:41, , 96F
達比修上次先發只丟一分還沒勝投 TEX打線...
04/17 21:41, 96F

04/17 22:20, , 97F
樓上最弱反串又來了,那場TEX贏,OK?
04/17 22:20, 97F

04/17 22:21, , 98F
Hamilton表示:怪我囉
04/17 22:21, 98F

04/17 23:16, , 99F
不用跟美國派認真阿 反串戰力超弱 明顯不懂棒球
04/17 23:16, 99F

04/18 03:24, , 100F
鍵盤球評不知有沒有看球,達爾的問題是控球,投得好,打者
04/18 03:24, 100F

04/18 03:25, , 101F
就是扇掉了,達爾現在是自己打敗自己,條子不是白痴
04/18 03:25, 101F

04/18 03:25, , 102F
當然,鍵盤球評都比MLB那票海標達爾的球團懂達爾的價值啦
04/18 03:25, 102F

04/18 04:20, , 103F
達爾的價值,決定我的價值。
04/18 04:20, 103F

04/18 05:54, , 104F
就曹錦輝的直阿 小曹當年速球95,96 ,97照樣一直被轟
04/18 05:54, 104F

04/18 05:56, , 105F
2003上MLB後連續每場先發都被幹砲..球速比達比修還快
04/18 05:56, 105F

04/18 07:41, , 106F
曹錦輝先發時,fastball大多89~92,2003年fastball均速90.7mph
04/18 07:41, 106F

04/18 10:14, , 107F
果然王建民很威
04/18 10:14, 107F

04/18 12:30, , 108F
He can do everything good, but nothing great.
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04/19 00:55, , 109F
Maddux: 少年拼球速,老來比控球 表示
04/19 00:55, 109F
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