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[情報] Royals Acquire Ervin Santana

看板MLB (美國職棒/大聯盟)作者 (Buchy)時間13年前 (2012/11/01 05:23), 編輯推噓28(28推 0噓 36→)
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http://ppt.cc/8e9r 4:15pm: The Angels get Brandon Sisk in the deal, Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports reports (on Twitter). 3:54pm: The Royals have acquired Ervin Santana from the Angels, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (on Twitter). It's not yet clear what the Angels are obtaining in return for Santana. The Angels had limited interest in exercising Santana's 2013 option, but the Royals appear to consider it reasonable. The Royals will presumably exercise Santana's $13MM option instead of paying him a $1MM buyout. The Royals quietly checked in on Santana's medicals yesterday before completing the deal today, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports (on Twitter). The 29-year-old posted a 5.16 ERA with 6.7 K/9, 3.1 BB/9 and a 43.2% ground ball rate in 178 innings this past season. Santana's average fastball velocity declined to 91.7 mph, but his swinging strike rate remained constant at 8.4%. He had completed at least 220 innings with ERAs below 4.00 in 2010 and 2011. Rosenthal reported late last night that the Angels are trying to move Santana and Dan Haren. The Royals began the offseason with a clear need for starting pitching. So far they have traded for Santana and claimed Chris Volstad. Volstad remains a non-tender candidate, but Santana will join Bruce Chen, Luis Mendoza, Felipe Paulino and Danny Duffy in the team's projected 2013 rotation. It won't be surprising if GM Dayton Moore continues pursuing starting pitching. 凸塔那單換小聯盟RP Brandon Sisk+現金 下一個就看期限前有沒有隊伍買Dan Haren了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.160.74.139
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11/01 05:26, , 1F
瞬間OP... XD
11/01 05:26, 1F
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11/01 05:26, , 2F
據說皇家還有拿到錢
11/01 05:26, 2F
※ 編輯: jameshu0910 來自: 118.160.74.139 (11/01 05:34)
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11/01 05:35, , 3F
SORRY,本想說你那篇比較完整,結果已經刪了
11/01 05:35, 3F
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11/01 06:00, , 4F
喂這也太便宜 低點賣也太慘了@@
11/01 06:00, 4F
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11/01 06:14, , 5F
據說是送1M給皇家 這筆交易確定後 Haren應該有蠻大的
11/01 06:14, 5F
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11/01 06:15, , 6F
機會留在天使了吧
11/01 06:15, 6F
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11/01 06:18, , 7F
如果天使不換東西,又不執行option,那就什麼都沒有了..
11/01 06:18, 7F
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11/01 06:19, , 8F
所以算是ok的交易....
11/01 06:19, 8F
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11/01 06:31, , 9F
所以到底是哪邊收到那1M?
11/01 06:31, 9F
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11/01 06:31, , 10F
應該是royals
11/01 06:31, 10F
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11/01 06:49, , 11F
什麼還ok的交易，天使不撿opt要付1M buy out，現在照付1M
11/01 06:49, 11F
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11/01 06:49, , 12F
給皇家白拿一個有機會上去的RP這樣叫ok你要不要加入爪爪?
11/01 06:49, 12F
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11/01 06:50, , 13F
三明治本來就會有Zack跟Hunter兩個，現在有pool限制再多
11/01 06:50, 13F
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11/01 06:50, , 14F
拿Santana一個也沒用，這根本是無本生意到底天使大大要怎
11/01 06:50, 14F
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11/01 06:51, , 15F
麼把他說成ok啊？
11/01 06:51, 15F
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11/01 06:56, , 16F
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11/01 06:57, , 17F
Angels exercised option on Santana before trading
11/01 06:57, 17F
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11/01 06:57, , 18F
him to Royals.
11/01 06:57, 18F
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11/01 06:58, , 19F
猴子先執行選擇權才完成這筆交易?
11/01 06:58, 19F
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11/01 07:01, , 20F
等於是付了2M?
11/01 07:01, 20F
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11/01 07:03, , 21F
喔喔 幾乎等於是皇家賭明年凸塔那反彈用13MM簽來打工?
11/01 07:03, 21F
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11/01 07:04, , 22F
猴子等於是照付1M buyout白收RP回來 的確是不錯的一筆
11/01 07:04, 22F
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11/01 07:10, , 23F
印象中凸塔那球速沒掉吧? 天使對他也真是太沒信心了@@
11/01 07:10, 23F
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11/01 08:03, , 24F
小山今年快變身成發球機叫不錯喔 哈哈
11/01 08:03, 24F
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11/01 08:23, , 25F
E.Santana今年時好時壞阿 不知道皇家那隻RP怎麼樣
11/01 08:23, 25F
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11/01 08:26, , 26F
我自己覺得是天使比較賺...Santana投球型態不改的話就那樣
11/01 08:26, 26F
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11/01 08:28, , 27F
還是皇家很缺錢?
11/01 08:28, 27F
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11/01 08:39, , 28F
Sisk在PCL當RP ERA很漂亮2.17 K/9也好看9.8 不過保送太多
11/01 08:39, 28F
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11/01 08:52, , 29F
皇家缺錢怎麼會吃12M -_-
11/01 08:52, 29F
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11/01 09:26, , 30F
13M年薪應該是近年來皇家投手的最高薪吧...
11/01 09:26, 30F
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11/01 10:01, , 31F
買個強隊的4號SP來隊上當號SP還可以帶些年輕SP如Aaron Crow
11/01 10:01, 31F
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11/01 10:02, , 32F
很值得的。因為皇家目前根本沒像樣的SP，先發輪職ERA都破5
11/01 10:02, 32F
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11/01 10:06, , 33F
皇家不是沒什麼錢嗎?怎麼會有錢吃下13M...
11/01 10:06, 33F
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11/01 10:17, , 34F
皇家的球員薪水在2012年總合是6139萬美元，但是清走了
11/01 10:17, 34F
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11/01 10:18, , 35F
Guthire時就省了82M了，如今Joakim Soria後也省了7M，空出
11/01 10:18, 35F
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11/01 10:19, , 36F
的薪資花10M在Ervin Santana身上是沒問題。
11/01 10:19, 36F
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11/01 10:20, , 37F
Guthire那薪水打錯字，是8.2M。
11/01 10:20, 37F
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11/01 11:00, , 38F
皇家是嫌錢太多嗎? Santana就算投得好 也不能讓皇家有競
11/01 11:00, 38F
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11/01 11:00, , 39F
爭力 季末大概也留不下來 投的差就更不用說了
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11/01 11:01, , 40F
12M的無本生意xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
11/01 11:01, 40F
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11/01 11:01, , 41F
不管投好投壞 皇家等於是浪費12M在一個沒有任何邊際效益
11/01 11:01, 41F
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11/01 11:01, , 42F
的球員身上
11/01 11:01, 42F
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11/01 11:25, , 43F
我不覺得簽Santana會讓Royals沒競爭力耶！因為皇家的
11/01 11:25, 43F
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11/01 11:28, , 44F
Rotation真的蠻殘破的。Santana明年ERA壓到4以下就不算虧
11/01 11:28, 44F
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11/01 11:30, , 45F
到，且Aaron Crow是在minor就當先發來養，要是他和Santana
11/01 11:30, 45F
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11/01 11:31, , 46F
都能拿到10W以上，加上陳用彩沒再退化，這個輪職在美聯中區
11/01 11:31, 46F
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11/01 11:31, , 47F
多少還有一點競爭力。
11/01 11:31, 47F
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11/01 11:42, , 48F
我覺得ERA 4以下有點困難 4.5以下或4.5左右就算及格
11/01 11:42, 48F
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11/01 11:43, , 49F
明年吃到180局以上就還可以 但問題是皇家缺個真ace
11/01 11:43, 49F
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11/01 11:43, , 50F
Ervin Santana目前看來也不是這位置的解答
11/01 11:43, 50F
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11/01 12:07, , 51F
Santana就是投的像ace 皇家也還缺好幾片拼圖才能進季後
11/01 12:07, 51F
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11/01 12:07, , 52F
如果是像道奇這樣財大氣粗 花12M在最後一快拼圖上 這還
11/01 12:07, 52F
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11/01 12:08, , 53F
算是有點邏輯 (儘管花太多錢) 但是皇家拼圖可缺了好幾塊
11/01 12:08, 53F
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11/01 12:09, , 54F
錢又不多 花12M在沒有邊際效益的人身上很沒道理
11/01 12:09, 54F
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11/01 12:22, , 55F
天使賺。把原本buyout該花的錢花掉，拿一個prospect牛
11/01 12:22, 55F
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11/01 12:22, , 56F
而從Santana那裡省下來的錢可以有其他更好的運用方式。
11/01 12:22, 56F
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11/01 12:30, , 57F
其實我本來是期待天使連那1M都可以省下來.....
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11/01 12:33, , 58F
Bean Stringfellow said analysis he’s done states Santana
11/01 12:33, 58F
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11/01 12:34, , 59F
presence increases Royals' chances of making playoffs by
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11/01 12:34, , 60F
14%.
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11/01 12:37, , 61F
Bean Stringfellow是Santana的經紀人 XDDD
11/01 12:37, 61F
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11/01 12:40, , 62F
1%->1.14%
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11/01 16:22, , 63F
XD 14%有趣
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11/02 11:13, , 64F
看球就好
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