[情報] 五位球團人士評皇家光芒交易

看板MLB (美國職棒/大聯盟)作者時間13年前 (2012/12/11 18:07), 編輯推噓16(16022)
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http://tinyurl.com/ac85auz If the five email responses I received from baseball executives late Sunday night are any indication, the reaction within the baseball industry is more nuanced. A National League general manager called the deal "bold on both sides," but liked it more from Kansas City's end. An AL talent evaluator also favored the Royals, in part because he suspects Myers might not be as good as the hype. Two other personnel people were decidedly pro-Tampa Bay. "The Royals got owned on this one," said an NL executive, who marveled at Friedman's huge haul of young talent. Another National League talent evaluator praised Moore for his chutzpah, but not so much for his baseball judgment. "My initial view was basic shock that Dayton did this," the evaluator said, "especially with so much pitching on the free-agent market. But they have a hard time getting pitching there. They gave up a lot to go all-in, so I applaud the effort. But I'm still shocked." Finally, an American League general manager said he likes the deal for both clubs. "I don't get all the online angst towards Kansas City," said the GM. "I am a Shields fan. I also respect that Tampa does their homework." 一位國聯GM: 兩邊都很大膽 比較喜歡皇家 一位美聯人士: 比較喜歡皇家 Myers可能名不副實 兩位國聯人士: 皇家被搶了 光芒得到很多年輕肉體 Moore會玩開心農場 可是被偷很多菜 一位美聯GM: 雙贏 我是Shields粉 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.109.64.209 ※ 編輯: abc12812 來自: 140.109.64.209 (12/11 18:08)

12/11 18:09, , 1F
"我是Shields粉" XDDD
12/11 18:09, 1F

12/11 18:12, , 2F
12/11 18:12, 2F

12/11 18:13, , 3F
Shields fan
12/11 18:13, 3F

12/11 18:18, , 4F
被偷菜XD 神比喻
12/11 18:18, 4F

12/11 18:20, , 5F
第二段那兩位國聯的GM其中一位也說可以理解皇家的賭博
12/11 18:20, 5F

12/11 18:21, , 6F
如果光看這篇,其實跟版上的反應算是頗有差距...
12/11 18:21, 6F

12/11 18:53, , 7F
關鍵就在Myers,打得出預期成績,就是光芒賺到了!
12/11 18:53, 7F

12/11 19:27, , 8F
鄉民只是球迷,他們可是實際操盤者(不過作的好不好就..
12/11 19:27, 8F

12/11 21:19, , 9F
不只是板上的反應, 全世界的鄉民眾幾乎都同意光芒搶很大
12/11 21:19, 9F

12/11 21:20, , 10F
這個交易的棒球界/鄉民眾觀點落差不下今年的 MVP 爭奪戰
12/11 21:20, 10F

12/11 21:36, , 11F
光芒這樣可以繼續讓他們的SP維持30歲以下嗎?
12/11 21:36, 11F

12/11 21:49, , 12F
可以啊 光芒農場比較不缺投手新秀 砲手很缺
12/11 21:49, 12F

12/11 22:02, , 13F
Happy farm被偷菜XD
12/11 22:02, 13F

12/11 22:14, , 14F
問題就只有一個: Shields是Ace嗎? 好像很多球團人員認為
12/11 22:14, 14F

12/11 22:15, , 15F
是 不得不說這某種程度上是一種east coast bias
12/11 22:15, 15F

12/11 22:16, , 16F
開心農場的比喻好妙 XDDDD
12/11 22:16, 16F

12/11 22:16, , 17F
數據打開看 Shields到底有多少料一目瞭然
12/11 22:16, 17F

12/11 22:16, , 18F
比較像是那種老大型的 因為SP當中他年齡最長
12/11 22:16, 18F

12/11 22:17, , 19F
標準的一天到晚說低估 低估到全世界都知道他被低估的高估
12/11 22:17, 19F

12/11 22:25, , 20F
他就不錯 但不是ACE 再怎樣護航都改變不了事實
12/11 22:25, 20F

12/11 22:46, , 21F
11年以前說Shields不是Ace還沒話說 但這兩年他的表現就是A
12/11 22:46, 21F

12/11 22:47, , 22F
Ace水準
12/11 22:47, 22F

12/11 22:50, , 23F
這兩年的ERA+總合 Shields還排不進前20名
12/11 22:50, 23F

12/11 22:51, , 24F
WAR排17 和IPK/Buehrle同等級 這樣很ace嗎?
12/11 22:51, 24F

12/11 22:53, , 25F
要比生涯的話個人認為盾會比較可能像Cliff lee而非Hallada
12/11 22:53, 25F

12/11 22:53, , 26F
y
12/11 22:53, 26F

12/12 00:19, , 27F
在夜釣嗎?
12/12 00:19, 27F

12/12 00:29, , 28F
MLB才三十隊,甚至有些球隊會有兩支以上的ACE
12/12 00:29, 28F

12/12 00:29, , 29F
所以排十七不夠ACE嗎?要不要定義一下甚麼叫ACE呢
12/12 00:29, 29F

12/12 00:30, , 30F
我覺得IPK,Buehrle,盾哥,去皇家都可以當ACE啊
12/12 00:30, 30F

12/12 01:00, , 31F
Ace不Ace他說了算阿!! 我們哪裡有講話的餘地
12/12 01:00, 31F

12/12 02:14, , 32F
是不是 ace 根本不重要, 唯一重要的是他不值得用 Myers
12/12 02:14, 32F

12/12 02:15, , 33F
換; 這交易讓我想起當年經典的 Kazmir <-> Zambrano
12/12 02:15, 33F

12/12 02:16, , 34F
不過雙方出的價值都更高, 皇家冒的風險比當年大都會更大
12/12 02:16, 34F

12/12 04:36, , 35F
夜釣XD 噴飯了XD
12/12 04:36, 35F

12/13 16:03, , 36F
應該是美聯東區太強了!!光芒下季已經放棄了
12/13 16:03, 36F

12/13 16:04, , 37F
把目標放在未來了
12/13 16:04, 37F

12/15 12:48, , 38F
光芒先發還有價格 尼曼 Moore 海利克森 放棄???
12/15 12:48, 38F
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