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Ranking the five best starting rotations

看板MLB (美國職棒/大聯盟)作者時間13年前 (2012/01/20 10:49), 編輯推噓62(65推 3噓 43→)
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http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/20057/ranking-the-five-best-starting-rotations 5. Arizona Diamondbacks: Ian Kennedy, Daniel Hudson, Trevor Cahill, Joe Saunders, Josh Collmenter. The D-backs' rotation ERA in 2011 was 3.84, but as I pointed out yesterday, that included 31 starts from scrubs at the bottom of the rotation who combined for a 6.07 ERA. As is, thanks to the durability of Kennedy, Hudson and Saunders, who all topped 200 innings, Arizona still ranked second in the NL in starters' innings. They've replaced those bottom feeders with Cahill and I also like that they have depth in the wings with prospects Trevor Bauer and Wade Miley. Nobody survives with just five starters, and it's that depth that I think gives Arizona the slight edge over division rival San Francisco. 4. New York Yankees: CC Sabathia, Hiroki Kuroda, Michael Pineda, Ivan Nova, A.J. Burnett/Phil Hughes/Freddy Garcia. While it's true that Brian Cashman improved the rotation last week with the acquisitions of Kuroda and Pineda, keep in mind that the Yankee rotation was actually pretty good last season, and that was with Burnett and Hughes combining for a 5.36 ERA over 46 starts. The main reason this group doesn't rank higher: Pineda and Nova haven't proven they can handle a 200-inning workload, as Pineda threw 171 innings and Nova 165 as rookies. 3. Texas Rangers: Yu Darvish, Derek Holland, Matt Harrison, Colby Lewis, Neftali Feliz. Let's be clear here: Lewis may have been tabbed as the Opening Day starter, but Darvish is expected to be the ace of this team. The Rangers didn't shell out more than $100 million for a No. 3 starter. The Texas rotation was vastly underrated last season, as it posted a 3.65 ERA (third in the AL), despite pitching in the best hitting park in the AL. The concerns are that Feliz is moving from the bullpen and remains a bit of wild card, both in production and durability; remember, Alexi Ogando made the same move in 2011 and was fatigued by the end of the season. Harrison also threw over 200 innings between the regular season and playoffs, so we'll have to see how he rebounds from the heaviest workload of his career. But having depth with Ogando and Feldman helps alleviate some of those concerns. 2. Los Angeles Angels: Jered Weaver, Dan Haren, C.J. Wilson, Ervin Santana, Jerome Williams. Weaver, Haren and Santana averaged 234 innings in 2011 and now they've add Wilson to the mix. He threw 223 innings for the Rangers. The last team with four starters to pitch 220 innings? The 1997 Atlanta Braves. That team won 101 games. Wilson could have a monster season -- after all, he posted a 2.31 ERA on the road last year and allowed just six home runs in 18 starts. Pitching behind Weaver and Haren should take away some of the pressure of the big contract. Yes, Williams is a bit of a question mark in the five-hole, but while they traded away Tyler Chatwood the Angels still have power arm Garrett Richards as depth. 1. Philadelphia Phillies: Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Cole Hamels, Vance Worley, Joe Blanton/Kyle Kendrick. Still the best rotation, especially with Worley providing numbers in the fourth position. There isn't anything in his statistical line that screams "fluke" about his 3.01 ERA, so I expect a solid sophomore season. Like the Angels, the final spot is shaky, but when you have three aces, you can survive just fine with Blanton or Kendrick. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.25.133
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01/20 10:51, , 1F
巨人呢?
01/20 10:51, 1F
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01/20 10:52, , 2F
NYY找來黑田和Pineda後輪值大補
01/20 10:52, 2F
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01/20 10:52, , 3F
原來沒有巨人 唉
01/20 10:52, 3F
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01/20 10:54, , 4F
老人的輪值竟然沒有前五!!
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01/20 10:55, , 5F
旅統一
01/20 10:55, 5F
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01/20 10:57, , 6F
沒Rays @_@
01/20 10:57, 6F
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01/20 10:59, , 7F
費城三本柱
01/20 10:59, 7F
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01/20 11:10, , 8F
紅襪 哭哭
01/20 11:10, 8F
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01/20 11:11, , 9F
達比修排一號喔...
01/20 11:11, 9F
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01/20 11:16, , 10F
沒光芒??
01/20 11:16, 10F
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01/20 11:19, , 11F
紅襪排上去才有鬼 那什麼破爛後段輪值
01/20 11:19, 11F
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01/20 11:20, , 12F
我修改 那已經不是破爛後段輪值 是根本沒後段輪值
01/20 11:20, 12F
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01/20 11:22, , 13F
以能力來說算一號 實際上還有不確定性所以排定是三號
01/20 11:22, 13F
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01/20 11:30, , 14F
怎麼可能沒老人= = 先發輪值的防禦率是數一數二的欸
01/20 11:30, 14F
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01/20 11:33, , 15F
林斯肯，坎恩，邦加納，瓦基松
01/20 11:33, 15F
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01/20 11:33, , 16F
對條子存疑 其他沒意見
01/20 11:33, 16F
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01/20 11:34, , 17F
沒選巨人的理由根本就是作者自己的感覺..
01/20 11:34, 17F
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01/20 11:35, , 18F
這樣看起來大概是因為第五號有落差...
01/20 11:35, 18F
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01/20 11:36, , 19F
排在上面的都是有五個以上值得期待有好表現的 Zito就...
01/20 11:36, 19F
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01/20 11:36, , 20F
沒巨人應該是作者自己的評論 小蛇文中最後有講 她覺得小蛇
01/20 11:36, 20F
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01/20 11:36, , 21F
條子的輪值...排到前五是?
01/20 11:36, 21F
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01/20 11:36, , 22F
ESPN越來越豪洨了
01/20 11:36, 22F
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01/20 11:36, , 23F
先發深度比老人好
01/20 11:36, 23F
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01/20 11:38, , 24F
沒巨人也太誇張
01/20 11:38, 24F
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01/20 11:46, , 25F
NYY排得進去有點莫名其妙
01/20 11:46, 25F
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01/20 11:48, , 26F
有預測NYY居然沒預測巨人.....看看那精美的SP ERA
01/20 11:48, 26F
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01/20 11:49, , 27F
條子輪值去年就已經是防禦率AL第三 吃局數前三 全員13W up
01/20 11:49, 27F
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01/20 11:49, , 28F
費城人沒寫到最近簽下的Joel Pineiro
01/20 11:49, 28F
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01/20 11:50, , 29F
存疑三小? (不過沒巨人確實是怪...)
01/20 11:50, 29F
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01/20 11:51, , 30F
還在過以前條子打強投弱的夢嗎
01/20 11:51, 30F
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01/20 11:51, , 31F
沒光芒 沒巨人 居然有條子 亂排
01/20 11:51, 31F
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01/20 11:52, , 32F
沒巨人有點怪 但NYY季後補了兩隻 現在前三號也很猛阿
01/20 11:52, 32F
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01/20 11:52, , 33F
條子 洋基 被高估
01/20 11:52, 33F
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01/20 11:53, , 34F
巨人三張A擠不到前五？
01/20 11:53, 34F
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01/20 11:56, , 35F
走了一個CJ 來一個沒打過一季的達比休 不能存疑?
01/20 11:56, 35F
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01/20 11:57, , 36F
不然你小三喔?
01/20 11:57, 36F
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01/20 12:00, , 37F
......請看看條子拿掉CJ後的輪值長怎樣再來存疑可否?
01/20 12:00, 37F
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01/20 12:01, , 38F
即使拿掉CJ 條子的輪值哪裡有問題了?
01/20 12:01, 38F
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01/20 12:13, , 39F
可能是因為條子輪值目前沒True Ace 雖然整體很平均就是了
01/20 12:13, 39F
還有 32 則推文
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01/20 14:53, , 72F
問題@@/ ERA+為啥跟對戰隊伍無關?? 他是拿ERA下去做計
01/20 14:53, 72F
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01/20 14:54, , 73F
算的不是嗎? 然後在對球場因素計算 這樣對戰對手的攻擊
01/20 14:54, 73F
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01/20 14:54, , 74F
能力還是會影響到ERA 也會影響ERA+不是嗎?
01/20 14:54, 74F
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01/20 14:58, , 75F
為何NYY可以排到第四????
01/20 14:58, 75F
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01/20 15:23, , 76F
NYY是最不合理的
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01/20 15:36, , 77F
先搞懂EAR+的定義再說吧
01/20 15:36, 77F
噓
01/20 15:47, , 78F
推個存疑 就要被嗆 以後谁還敢討論啊。
01/20 15:47, 78F
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01/20 15:49, , 79F
http://0rz.tw/b4VEk 去年的先發成績
01/20 15:49, 79F
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01/20 15:52, , 80F
一個是都還沒投過，一個是剛轉先發，被質疑剛剛好而已。
01/20 15:52, 80F
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01/20 16:07, , 81F
條子 意外嗎？
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噓
01/20 17:32, , 82F
還真以為自己警察勒ZZ
01/20 17:32, 82F
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01/20 18:12, , 83F
光芒怎麼可能排不進前五名...= =
01/20 18:12, 83F
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01/20 18:23, , 84F
條子版主 不意外~ 自我感覺相當良好 容不下其他一點想法
01/20 18:23, 84F
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01/20 18:27, , 85F
旅台就是神~~~~~~
01/20 18:27, 85F
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01/20 18:35, , 86F
基基好可憐～去年殘缺輪值可以丟到全聯盟top10
01/20 18:35, 86F
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01/20 18:36, , 87F
現在補了兩個好投手加上兩、三個備案，排進top5就是扯～
01/20 18:36, 87F
噓
01/20 18:43, , 88F
這要怎麼叫別人不要一竿子打翻一船人......
01/20 18:43, 88F
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01/20 19:09, , 89F
你要存疑也像KISSFORMISS一樣講出你的疑點啊 有在討論嗎?
01/20 19:09, 89F
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01/20 19:13, , 90F
不過anyway 戰是我引起的 就是不對 下不為例
01/20 19:13, 90F
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01/20 19:14, , 91F
一般雖然對達比修沒有百分之百的信任 但是通常都認為他的
01/20 19:14, 91F
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01/20 19:15, , 92F
成績不會比松板第一年差 甚至不會比野茂第一年差
01/20 19:15, 92F
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01/20 19:16, , 93F
如果真的適應不良 也不會跟條子前一個簽的亞洲投手一樣是個
01/20 19:16, 93F
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01/20 19:17, , 94F
災難 寫這個的人是從這個出發點寫的 至於Feliz 因為有
01/20 19:17, 94F
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01/20 19:19, , 95F
Ogando/Feldman這些備案 產率"理論上"會比大聯盟平均五號
01/20 19:19, 95F
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01/20 19:20, , 96F
高上不少... 有沒有前三我不敢說 至少沒巨人跟光芒好
01/20 19:20, 96F
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01/20 19:22, , 97F
但是排前五並不如一些人想像的誇張 但是一切都很難說啦
01/20 19:22, 97F
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01/20 19:24, , 98F
七八隻SP保險一年掛了四五隻也不是不可能 問Mets就知道
01/20 19:24, 98F
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01/20 19:36, , 99F
小蛇的五號先發應該會競爭激烈
01/20 19:36, 99F
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01/20 20:04, , 100F
一年掛4,5隻...這根本就是紅襪的傷心事.....
01/20 20:04, 100F
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01/20 21:51, , 101F
說好的國民哩~~
01/20 21:51, 101F
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01/20 22:23, , 102F
條子版主在這裡搞笑也不是第一次了 比在ws吃屎的次數還多 lol
01/20 22:23, 102F
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01/20 23:24, , 103F
太另我存疑了 條子
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01/21 00:56, , 104F
等你比人家懂在來說人家搞笑吧 XDD
01/21 00:56, 104F
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01/21 02:00, , 105F
推一句存疑就要被嗆三小 原來先講三小=理性討論
01/21 02:00, 105F
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01/21 03:32, , 106F
沒差啦 今年打了就知道 有些球隊想WS吃屎還吃不到
01/21 03:32, 106F
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01/21 10:03, , 107F
要比他不懂還真不容易 想想去年季中交易 就可以證明啦~
01/21 10:03, 107F
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01/21 12:00, , 108F
看來很多人球季還沒開始就要先進DL冷靜一下腦袋
01/21 12:00, 108F
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01/21 12:43, , 109F
被S囉 這種天氣被凼好冷(￣ー￣；)
01/21 12:43, 109F
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01/21 16:09, , 110F
國民和紅雀輪值升級的可能都還很大
01/21 16:09, 110F
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01/23 22:46, , 111F
沒SF 笑笑就好
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