Zach Greinke是聰明的投手嗎?

看板MLB (美國職棒/大聯盟)作者abc12812時間13年前 (2012/05/27 19:44)推噓17(18推 1噓 11→)

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http://tinyurl.com/7xvbrtd I watched him pitch to the D-Backs tonight. If I didn’t know it was Greinke, I would have thought that it was a rookie “thrower” who had no idea how to pitch - for several reasons. 我看了他今天的比賽要不是我知道他是Greinke 我還以為是哪個不懂投球的菜鳥丟球手呢 Anyway, there were runners on first and second and no outs in the 3rd inning I think and the pitcher up. The pitcher was trying to bunt. Greinke started him off with 3 straight curve balls, two of which missed the zone, followed by 3 change ups. What the heck? He went to a 3-2 count and finally got him out (on a sac bunt I think). I cannot imagine why he would throw a pitcher trying to bunt any curve balls or change ups, let alone 6 straight! Breaking pitches are typically the easiest to bunt and of course the last thing in the world you want to do when a pitcher is trying to bunt is to walk him. 搞屁阿投手擺明要觸擊還投了一堆變化球搞成滿球數是在幹嘛? The other thing was that he never, ever elevated his fastball, especially when he needed a strikeout, which was often in this game. With a 96 mph 4 seamer, you simply have to elevate that pitch once in a while (or a lot). He simply refused to do it. Whenever he needed a strikeout, he always went with the breaking pitch low and away. It got to the point where everyone in the world knew he was going to throw it. It worked in the first inning as he got several of the D-Backs to chase the breaking pitch, but after one time through the order, they were often spitting at the low off-speed pitches and hammering the elevated ones. It was obvious that they knew what was coming. Again, he refused to use any of his fastballs as an alternative “out pitch.” 然後他從來都不想丟高的快速球特別是在需要三振的時候他總是投外角低變化球投到全世界都知道他就是要外角低第一局是有用啦但接下來打者就學乖放過低球攻擊掉不下來的變化球了然後他還是不想用快速球來"對決" There were two terrible sequences (among many bad ones) that I noticed. One was to GoldSchmidt, I think, in the third inning (I think) with runners on first and second and no outs. He went to 3-2 and threw him an off speed pitch for ball 4. As many of you know, I do not generally believe that there is only “one pitch” to throw in any given situation - game theory dictates that you must mix up your pitches, even if you are going to throw one particular pitch 80 or 90% of the time - but with no outs, you pretty much have to throw a pitch that is not going to walk the batter. And he did not seem to have much command of his off-speed pitches (who does typically?). The other thing about that sequence to Goldschmidt was that in the first inning he struck him out with a slider in the dirt. He kept trying to do it again in the 3rd, but it was obvious (to me at least) that he learned his lesson and was not going to swing at that pitch, which he didn’t, yet Greinke kept throwing it. 對決Goldschmidt的時候第一次用挖地瓜滑球騙到三振但第二次對決 Goldschmidt明顯已經學乖不去追地瓜了但Greinke還是很堅持一定要挖地瓜滑球搞到最後變保送 The worst pitch of the game for him was when there were 2 runners on, one on third, and McDonald, the worst hitter in the lineup (but a veteran), had 2 strikes on him after swinging at 2 off-speed pitches in the dirt. I turned to my friend and said, “The whole game, he has refused to elevate a fastball in a 2 strike count. He has always gone with the slider. I think McDonald knows that. If he accidentally elevates one, he is going to get a good swing at it. ” Sure enough he hung an 0-2 slider and the light hitting McDonald hit one out. 然後對上最爛的打者McDonald 先是連投了兩個挖地瓜滑球騙到兩個揮空我轉頭對朋友說"全場他都拒絕在二好的時候用高速球對決一定要用滑球吊我想麥當勞知道這點要是他不小心把滑球投高就災系阿" 然後就是一顆投高的滑球被麥當勞肛出場外 As I said, the whole game that Greinke was pitching, he looked ridiculously predictable to me. He must not be, given that he has been so successful in his career, but watching him pitch tonight, especially the weird sliders and change ups to the pitcher trying to bunt, made be think that this guy is not all that bright in the pitching department. 就像我說的他的配球實在太好猜了以他成績不應該這麼好預測才對但看了他今天的表現或許他在投球技巧上其實沒那麼聰明? What say you fans who have followed his career? 大家說呢? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.25.133

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