[討論] United 0-3 Citeh

看板ManUtd作者 (曼聯魂)時間11年前 (2014/03/28 13:43), 編輯推噓4(401)
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好讀版:http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/ManUtd/M.1395985428.A.8C8.html Manchester United 0-3 Manchester City: United forced to change shape within ten minutes http://imgur.com/QKQZogs
The starting line-ups Manchester City recorded a comfortable victory over Manchester United at Old Trafford. David Moyes named Marouane Fellaini, Michael Carrick and Tom Cleverley in the same team for the first time, with Danny Welbeck returning to the side. Rio Ferdinand was fit enough to return at the back. Manuel Pellegrini went for Edin Dzeko ahead of Alvaro Negredo, and Gael Clichy ahead of Aleksandar Kolarov. City started brilliantly, and probably should have won the game within the first 25 minutes. United shape Moyes changed his system completely for this game, and seemed to start with a 4-3-3. This is the first time he’s played this formation with United in the Premier League, and seemed to be a response to City’s system – probably to deny Yaya Toure space and time on the ball. Fellaini was tasked with stopping him in the opening stages, although came out second best, at one point clearly not having the physicality to knock Toure off the ball. Cleverley continues to look nervous in possession and positionally he was uncertain – although he shared that with manyof his teammates. Silva United’s new shape backfired spectacularly, however, because the formation allowed David Silva all the space he required to dominate the opening ten minutes. He darted either side of Michael Carrick from his number ten role, continually collecting the ball in those pockets and using the ball in a quick, efficient and unspectacular manner. He rarely threaded through-balls behind the defence, but instead played neat passes, often out towards the flanks, and increased the pressure upon the Manchester United defence. The way he collected the ball and darted through the United backline in the opening minute was superb, and resulted in the opener – after Silva was denied by Rafael’s excellent last-ditch tackle, Samir Nasri found space away from Rafael and his shot rebounded to Dzeko for a tap-in. The only criticism of Silva is that he doesn’t win games himself often enough. He was the best attacking player on show by a distance, dictating the tempo and flow of the game, but didn’t quite produce a genuinely defence-splitting pass, or provide a significant goal threat. Indeed, his fabulous recent strike at Hull was his only goal in the last 20 games, and it ’s this lack of individual matchwinning ability that prevents him being regarded as one of the very best in Europe. His ability to facilitate the attacks of others, however, is unquestionable. From his pockets of spaces in the channels, he teed up Nasri and Jesus Navas to attack the full-backs, and when Gael Clichy and Pablo Zabaleta advanced City caused United real problems in wide areas, as they’ve done repeatedly in this fixture. Again, however, there was a slight inefficiency in their display – only four shots on target isn’t particularly impressive given their level of dominance, although at 0-2 they clearly took things easy. http://imgur.com/GoL6EKe
Passes analysis of David Silva United change shape Amazingly, Moyes considered changing his system within the first ten minutes, preparing Antonio Valencia when Carrick was seemingly injured. The fact he was warming up Valencia rather than Darren Fletcher suggests he wanted to change shape, and the fact no United player had signalled their intention to depart suggests he was desperate for an excuse to make the change. In the event, no United player had to come off, and Cleverley moved over to an unfamiliar right-sided role, with Mata as the number ten. United were their usual 4-4-1-1 again. This helped United get back in the game, although the change was really about providing a stable shape. It wasn’t a clever tactical change, it was just reverting to United’s default shape after a recognition they were becoming overrun in a system they weren’t comfortable in. There were some moments of promise: Rooney dropped deep between the lines to cause City problems, and Danny Welbeck started to run in behind. On the right, Cleverley’s narrowness allowed Rafael forward on the overlap past Nasri, although his crossing wasn’t particularly impressive. Shinji Kagawa – excellent in the 2-0 win over West Ham at the weekend – replaced Cleverley at half-time, but had little impact. Latter stages There was relatively little tactical progression until after City’s second goal, which killed the game. Dzeko had a simple finish from a near-post corner – it was amazing he was allowed so much space, considering City continually hit their right-wing corners into that zone. http://imgur.com/ZHkErSy
Corners of Citeh and the second goal of Edin Dzeko Moyes then went chasing the game, gambled by putting Antonio Valencia on for Fellaini with Rooney going back into central midfield alongside, but Pellegrini signalled he was happy to defend by replacing Jesus Navas with Javi Garcia. Silva went right, where he was less influential – but Toure moved centrally to smash in the third. Conclusion This was boringly easy for City, and there were only two key talking points. United’s change in shape evidently didn’t work – it was understandable Moyes wanted to solidify his side, but the change to 4-3-3 had the opposite effect. No-one appeared sure of their position, and the experiment lasted barely ten minutes. This uncertainty was partly responsible for Silva’s freedom, the second key issue. His drifts into wider areas, and his ability to accelerate the tempo of City’s passing, was the outstanding aspect of their performance. In truth, however, they didn’t need to be outstanding – they took the lead inside 45 seconds and never looked like losing it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- United0-3Cited:United被迫在10分鐘內改變陣型 http://imgur.com/QKQZogs
兩隊先發&陣型示意圖 Citeh在Old Trafford輕鬆的帶走了一場勝利。 Moyes第一次嘗試把Fellaini, Carrick, Cleverley放在一起, 並讓Welbeck回到邊路, Ferdinand也回到先發陣容中。 Pellegrini在本場比賽用Dzeko和Clichy取代了Negredo和Kolarov的位置。 Citeh在比賽剛開始時就有非常精彩的表現, 而且極有可能在前25分鐘就拿下比賽。 United的陣型 Moyes本場比賽完全改變了他的陣型, 看樣子他用選擇排出4-3-3來對抗Citeh。這是第 一次他在United排出這種陣型, 看樣子目的是要針對Citeh的陣型 - 有可能是要擠壓 Toure的的空間和他的持球時間。 Fellaini被安排從比賽一開始的階段就去阻擋Toure。儘管這是他第二好的狀態, 但很 明顯他沒有那種可以可以壓住Toure的身體素質。本場比賽Cleverley還是一樣的在持 球時很緊張, 而且他的位置感也不太好 - 儘管他的隊友們也跟他一樣。 Silva United對於的新陣型的嚐試很明顯的事與願違, 因為這讓Silva在開場十分鐘有了充足 的空間可以發揮。Silva扮演的十號位的角色, 快速的通過Carrick的兩側去接應隊友 的傳球, 並且以快速, 有效率的方式傳接球。在本場比賽中, Silva比較少製造穿越球 給隊友, 不過他精巧的短傳通常都可以送到空檔, 藉此造成United防守上的壓力。 他用這種傳接球的方式把球送到對手的後防線上在比賽剛開始的前幾分鐘效果非常好, 製造造成了客隊比賽的開門紅 - 在他的射門被Rafael鏟斷後, Nasri脫離Rafael的防 守找到空檔射門, 皮球彈到Dzeko的前面讓他輕鬆破門。 對於Silva來說, 他唯一的缺點是憑他一己之力贏得的比賽還不夠多。從控制比賽的節 奏, 球的流動等方面來看, 他都是最好的進攻球員, 但是他不常製造出那種可以撕開 防線的傳球, 或是提供有明顯進球機會的威脅球。更確切的來說, 他在對上Hull City的那顆令人驚艷的進球是他近20場比賽的唯一進球; 他還缺少那種可以一人贏得 比賽的能力, 這也沒辦法讓他成為歐洲賽場中超一流水平的球員。 毫無疑問的, 他在進攻面處理球的能力是非常好的。他能找到空檔處當傳接球點, 然 後再輸送給Nasri和Navas讓他們兩個直接對上邊後衛們進攻, 再加上Clichy跟 Zabaleta的向前推進, 並且持續使用這種配合進攻, 這在左右兩翼造成了United在防 守上很大的問題。然而,他們的配合有點沒效率 - 只有四次射正沒辦法讓人對於他們 支配整場的情況有特別深刻的印象, 儘管他們很輕鬆進了兩球。 http://imgur.com/GoL6EKe
Silva的接球示意圖 United改變陣型 令人驚訝的, Moyes在開場後的十分鐘內就在考慮改變他的陣型:當Carrick看起來受 傷之後他馬上就讓Valencia去熱身。 讓Vaclencia去熱身而不是Fletcher讓人意識到Moyes是想要改變陣型而不是對位換人 , 事實上當時沒有球員有想要離開場上的意圖, 所以Moyes也找不出理由去換人。其實 在這之中, 沒有United球員需要下場, 只要把Cleverley移到他不熟悉的右路, 然後讓 Mata打十號位, 就可以回到United那常用的4-4-1-1。 儘管這個方法的目的是在於保持一個穩定的陣型, 不過還是幫助United回到了比賽。 這個戰術上的改變並不是很高明, 它只是在Moyes發現球員們在一個他們不習慣的陣型 中沒辦法保持陣型(becoming overrun in a system)後讓球隊還原成他們平常的陣型 。 Rooney後撤至後衛線與中場線之間來給Citeh製造問題, 然後Welbeck就在Rooney後面 伺機起跑。在右路, Cleverley靠近中路的站位讓Rafael可以向前推進去壓過Nasri, 但Rafael這場比賽沒有什麼讓人印象深刻的傳中。Kagawa - 在上周末2-0戰勝West Ham的比賽有著絕妙的表現 - 在半場過後即取代Cleverley上場, 卻沒什麼表現。 0-2之後的場面 Citeh在取得第二個進球之後在戰術上做的一點小改變殺死了比賽。Dzeko在近門柱完 成了一個簡單的破門 - 令人訝異的是Citeh持續的從右邊發出角球到那個區域, United還給了他這麼大的空間。 http://imgur.com/ZHkErSy
Citeh角球示意圖 接下來Moyes賭博性的用Valencia換掉了Fellaini並讓Rooney拉回至中場想要追回比數 , 但Pellegrini用Garcia換下Navas表示出他很樂意來防守。Silva移至他比較少製造 出威脅的右路, 但Toure往中路的移動打進了第三球。 結論 這場比賽的難易度對於Citeh來說是令人無聊的簡單, 並且只有兩個關鍵的因素可以拿 來討論。 United對陣型的改變很明顯的起不到作用 - 可以理解Moyes想要在本方半場的防守( his side??), 但使用這個4-3-3卻得到了反效果。沒有球員顯現出對於各自的位置很 確定, 所以這實驗陣型僅維持了10分鐘。 United球員們對於位置的不確定感付出的一部分代價就是讓Silva自由, 就是文中的第 二點因素。Silva能夠把球帶到兩個邊路, 而且他那種可以加快Citeh傳球的節奏的能 力是非常傑出的。說實在的, Citeh根本不需要有非常傑出的表現 - 他們在45秒內取 得領先之後場面上從來沒顯示出會輸掉。 http://www.zonalmarking.net/2014/03/26/manchester-united-0-3-manchester-city-united-forced-to-change-shape-within-ten-minutes/ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 111.250.111.136 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/ManUtd/M.1395985428.A.8C8.html ※ 編輯: simonohmygod 來自: 111.250.111.136 (03/28 14:04)

03/28 17:00, , 1F
一開始看到先發的時候 推特上紛紛出現C23先發的決定
03/28 17:00, 1F

03/28 17:02, , 2F
這一場很簡單的說 就是Moyes想打的陣型不是他想的那樣
03/28 17:02, 2F

03/28 17:03, , 3F
球員們不管進攻還是防守的站位都不像是固定練習的狀態
03/28 17:03, 3F

03/29 03:18, , 4F
為什麼他可以一直在那邊試陣型 練打法
03/29 03:18, 4F

03/29 16:50, , 5F
你沒看過他去年之前對榴彈城故意打三後衛的囧狀了
03/29 16:50, 5F
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