Trader Jack?

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http://0rz.tw/tEcHG Trader Jack? As Seattle's GM struggles to complete deals, some rival executives wonder The Mariners already have completed one trade, acquiring designated hitter Kendrys Morales from the Twins last week. General manager Jack Zduriencik could make one or two more deals before the non-waiver deadline Thursday at 4 p.m. ET, maybe even a blockbuster. To hear rival executives tell it, though, Zduriencik mostly has exasperated trade partners with his negotiating style while trying to guide the M’s to the postseason for the first time since 2001. Those executives say the Mariners frequently inquire on a number of players, only to shift direction when a deal appears within reach. Such conduct is not unusual for teams navigating the complex trade market. But in numerous conversations, executives from other teams have singled out Zduriencik as one of the most difficult GMs in the sport with whom to do business. Zdurincik’s peers express frustration with his methods – and their complaints are not new. The rival executives spoke on condition of anonymity because of tampering rules and the ongoing nature of trade conversations. And while Zduriencik is free to conduct business however he sees fit, his peers say the trade market is clogged in part due to the Mariners’ stalled pursuits of players such as the Rays’ David Price, Rangers’ Alex Rios and Phillies’ Marlon Byrd. Meanwhile, the situation is turning urgent for the Mariners, who are 3-7 since the All-Star break and now just three games above .500. Zduriencik, who reportedly is unsigned beyond 2014, also is in a delicate spot. The M’s went 85-77 in ’09, his first season, then produced losing records in each of the past four years. Some GMs turn aggressive when their jobs seemingly are at stake. Zduriencik, on the other hand, baffles rival executives with his inability to close deals. “He has made offers and then pulled back after we have said, ‘This is something we would do,”’ one executive said. “He responds (by saying) it wasn’t an offer and that he will need to discuss it with his guys.” Another executive added, “I don’t always get the sense that he knows what he wants to do. One day, he’s interested in one thing. The next day, he’s interested in another. That’s what makes it challenging.” A third executive said, “They (the Mariners) don’t set out on a trade saying, ‘Here’s what we need. Let’s do what we can to get him.’ They think, ‘Who can we give up that will never be any good?’ They don’t want to give up anyone who will haunt them. That’s just flat-out fear.” Zduriencik, in a lengthy E-mail to FOX Sports, responded by saying that the in-and-out nature of his trade conversations are typical of those that occur throughout the industry. “There are many discussions that take place throughout the year, and I am open in my dialogue and intent,” Zduriencik said. “I have not had an offer on the table and pulled it back. I have been clear in my discussions and often express my intentions. “I have done enough deals, signed enough players in my history, that this alone should speak to this subject. Inquiries, discussions, dialogue, and even the exchange of names does not mean a deal will get done, and all GMs realize this. Many times there are varying points as names go in and out from both parties. There are so many factors that go into any trade that most clubs realize how hard and sensitive this subject can be. “If any trade or discussion does not get consummated, it is simply that we did not agree on the exchange. As a general manager, I have had my share of deals turned down, and I have turned down deals as well. It simply works both ways.” Zduriencik added, “As far as the fear factor of a player doing well elsewhere, that comment is ridiculous! I would hope that every GM wishes his players the very best and success as they move on to other ballclubs. It’s just part of the business of baseball. It is my job to do what is best for the Seattle Mariners.” The Mariners are drawing increased attention from other clubs not only because of their emergence as a surprise contender but also because of their reservoir of young talent. Teams view Seattle as an attractive trading partner, and the M’s have an obvious need for offense – they lead the American League in ERA but are next-to-last in runs scored. The AL West title is all but out of reach for the Mariners, who trail the Athletics by 11 games, the Angels by 9½. The second wild card is a more realistic target – the M’s are a mere 1½ games behind the Blue Jays in that race. But the only assurance that a wild card offers is a one-game playoff, with the winner advancing to the best-of-five Division Series. Rival executives view even the one trade that Zduriencik has made thus far as curious. The Mariners not only gave up right-handed reliever Stephen Pryor for Morales but also agreed to pay the remainder of the approximately $4.33 million remaining on Morales’ contract. This for a player who was batting .234 with a .584 OPS – and since has gone 1-for-10 in his first three games with the Mariners. The trade did squelch the notion that the Mariners were operating without payroll flexibility – a notion Zduriencik himself perpetuated, rival executives say. “I have an ownership group that’s as tired of losing as our fan base is,” team president Kevin Mather told FOX Sports last week. “I get tired of reading that our player payroll is $89 million or $90 million. We’re well over $100 million, and we just added Morales. We feel good about where we are, and we do have some flexibility.” The question now is whether Zduriencik can capitalize on that flexibility – and whether Mariners ownership is influencing the GM’s stop-and-start behavior. Former club officials have accused ownership of meddling in the past. Zduriencik, who took over as GM on Oct. 22, 2008, was an assertive deal-maker in his early years, completing a three-team, 12-player trade at his first winter meetings and acquiring left-hander Cliff Lee from the Phillies at his second. But he got a poor return for Lee from the Rangers the following July, then sent right-hander Doug Fister to the Tigers in another ill-conceived deal the next year. Since then, Zduriencik’s trades mostly have brought low-impact returns. Second baseman Robinson Cano, the Mariners’ biggest acquisition last offseason, was a $240 million free-agent signing. The team’s only trade of consequence was pitcher Carter Capps for first baseman Logan Morrison. Their only trade last July sent infielder Robert Andino to the Pirates for a player to be named. The next four days, then, could amount to the most significant test of Zduriencik’s tenure in Seattle. He will either defy the criticism of him within the industry or spark renewed questions about whether he is fit for the job. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.25.247.119 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Mariners/M.1406739728.A.185.html

07/31 01:20, , 1F
感覺大家都討厭JZ XD
07/31 01:20, 1F

07/31 02:03, , 2F
我看成Trade JZ
07/31 02:03, 2F

07/31 03:14, , 3F
豬頭B:你們這些人開始懷念我的豪爽了吧!
07/31 03:14, 3F

07/31 04:15, , 4F
JZ這種操作方式先前就已經在Lee交易時搞過洋基.逼洋基出
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07/31 04:15, , 5F
肥鐵洛.再用這條件逼條子拿JZ更想要的娘娘出來.然後直接
07/31 04:15, 5F

07/31 04:15, , 6F
將Lee換給條子.JZ後來說從未和洋基達成任何協議.但洋基認
07/31 04:15, 6F

07/31 04:15, , 7F
為JZ已經口頭協議成交,事後超不爽.後來這交易配菜之中的J
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07/31 04:15, , 8F
osh Lueke羅生門當然也被拿來挖苦JZ一番.
07/31 04:15, 8F

07/31 08:11, , 9F
發原文不附翻譯,此風不可長。(喂)
07/31 08:11, 9F

07/31 11:32, , 10F
老實說這幾年JZ做的交易都不怎樣 感覺啦
07/31 11:32, 10F

07/31 12:03, , 11F
我想今年731前大概沒人會和JZ再做交易了 雙城今天也傳出消
07/31 12:03, 11F

07/31 12:03, , 12F
息說Josh Willingham不太可能在交易截止日前被賣掉
07/31 12:03, 12F

07/31 12:14, , 13F
這樣也不錯阿 說不定JZ又會拿什麼鬼東西去換
07/31 12:14, 13F

07/31 12:37, , 14F
JZ這幾年做的交易的確都不怎樣, 尤其是 7/31 前的交易
07/31 12:37, 14F

07/31 15:50, , 15F
Z最大的優點大概是對還沒上MLB的農場球員估的很準
07/31 15:50, 15F

07/31 15:51, , 16F
只要是在還沒上到MLB之前就被當交易籌碼送出去的
07/31 15:51, 16F

07/31 15:52, , 17F
幾乎都在MLB繳不出成績,不過如果有在水兵本隊交出
07/31 15:52, 17F

07/31 15:53, , 18F
合格(聯盟平均),出去幾乎是毎一個都打JZ的臉打超爽
07/31 15:53, 18F

07/31 15:56, , 19F
Morrow算嗎?Morrow這筆看起來越來越不覺得有虧到了
07/31 15:56, 19F

07/31 15:58, , 20F
Fister應該是打臉打最大的例子 XD
07/31 15:58, 20F

07/31 16:10, , 21F
Morrow在這邊成績很好阿,去藍鳥至少也還有像個三號
07/31 16:10, 21F

07/31 16:11, , 22F
而且他換回來的,力哥(勝利告別式)+空氣小聯盟球員
07/31 16:11, 22F

07/31 16:11, , 23F
藍鳥怎麼算都是大勝
07/31 16:11, 23F

07/31 16:13, , 24F
Morrow是太痛 感覺在藍鳥那邊要投出來了就受傷
07/31 16:13, 24F

07/31 16:18, , 25F
Fister←→佛不許... 不堪回首
07/31 16:18, 25F

07/31 16:19, , 26F
還有大喇叭那幾筆 換來一堆人冰在AAA不知道要幹嘛
07/31 16:19, 26F

07/31 16:20, , 27F
最賽的應該是一朗那次 撿到一個法垮XD
07/31 16:20, 27F

07/31 16:37, , 28F
Fister那筆佛布希不算主菜,我記得好像TOP10拿了4個來
07/31 16:37, 28F

07/31 16:38, , 29F
結果全亂掉,Morrow 痛成那樣,實際上只有12年算是不錯
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07/31 16:39, , 30F
力哥在被操掛前也算是合格的CL拉
07/31 16:39, 30F

07/31 16:40, , 31F
與其去跟人家換有天分的棒子 不如還是花錢去簽一隻
07/31 16:40, 31F

07/31 16:41, , 32F
我們家養棒子的能力真的是爛到掉渣的等級
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07/31 16:48, , 33F
簽來會變公務員阿 XD
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07/31 16:58, , 34F
至少比殭屍好
07/31 16:58, 34F

08/01 11:24, , 35F
Morrow怎麼看都是虧阿,力哥也只有猛一陣子
08/01 11:24, 35F
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