[外電] Overpaying Parsons makes sense for Mav

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Overpaying Parsons makes sense for Mavs Jul 10 By Tim MacMahon | ESPNDallas.com By no means did the Dallas Mavericks enter the summer planning to pay more than $15 million per year to a small forward who has never played in an All-Star Game. 小牛要做的絕不僅是進入暑假的自由市場然後花15M在一個沒進過明星賽的小前鋒這麼簡單 A strong argument can be made that Chandler Parsons will be overpaid while earning more than $45 million over the next three seasons, the value of the offer sheet the restricted free agent signed last night. But making the deal so big was a calculated business move by Mark Cuban and the Mavs. 本次的簽約將會製造出巨大的質疑,尤其Chandler Parsons未來3年將是總值超過45M的大 合約,看起來一點都不「CP」。 但請注意,這個合約的制定者是精於算記得Cuban和小牛團隊阿 Simply put, the Mavs wanted to make it as painful as possible for the Houston Rockets to exercise their right to match the offer to Parsons, the promising, productive small forward who is just entering his prime at 25. 簡單來說,小牛想要製造出一個對火箭來說困擾至極的情況,來讓其匹配Parsons的合約。 畢竟CP是一個有前途,有效率且只有25歲的年輕人才 As detailed by dallasbasketball.com, the Mavs have thrown a major wrench into the rival Rockets' offseason plans. The offer sheet to Parsons, along with the max salaries of Dwight Howard and James Harden, makes it practically impossible for Houston to execute the one-two-punch plan of signing Chris Bosh to a max deal and keeping Parsons, even if the Rockets shed the salaries of every other player on the roster. 透過此簽約,小牛使自由市場上的競爭者-火箭遭受嚴重的打擊。 經由給Parson的報價合約,和 Dwight Howard 以及 James Harden的薪資已經快佔滿空間 就算火箭將除了 CP DH 和 JH 以外的人都送出 基本上火箭想要一舉拿下 Bosh 和留下 Parsons 的計畫已經變得不太可能實行了 dallasbasketball的分析在此【http://ppt.cc/fTslHouston general manager Daryl Morey has been forced into making difficult decisions the next few days. Does he scramble to dump salaries, attempt to talk Bosh into taking a less-than-max deal and enter luxury-tax territory by matching the offer to Parsons? Does he swallow hard and pay Parsons much more than the Rockets planned while keeping their bargain-priced role players, sacrificing the ability to make a major addition to the core of a team failed to get out of the first round of the playoffs? 莫雷將在美東時間星期天下午五點前被迫作出決定。 是要勉強匹配合約,然後嘗試說服 Bosh 降薪 然後一腳踏入瘋狂豪華稅的情況?! 【然後變成只有四個球員有約在身的處境,剩下2.73M的空間特例以及老將底薪可用】 或者是嚥下比當初預期續簽 Parsons 時還高的薪資,然後保留目前有約的球員 結果沒剩餘多少薪資空間,就單純讓讓今年季後賽的慘痛經驗這樣過去 放棄讓球隊變得更有天賦的機會?! These can't be the kinds of decisions Morey saw coming when he declined the option to pay Parsons $965,000 next season, a move the Rockets' front office surely regrets right now. 莫雷想不到在放棄 Parsons 的球隊選擇後,使其變成RFA後會變成如此痛苦的決定 火箭的管理層現在一定後悔莫及 Maybe Morey believed that having the restricted tag on Parsons, who would have been an unrestricted free agent next summer if he completed his rookie deal, would depress his value in the open market. It had the opposite effect, as was the case with Utah Jazz small forward Gordon Hayward, who signed a four-year, $63 million offer sheet with the Charlotte Hornets. 或許當初莫雷是認為如果執行球隊選擇,明年夏天 Parsons 將變成不受限的自由球員 這將會讓 Parsons 的交易價值大大降低。 當然與之相對的,成為受限制的自由球員最大的影響 就如同黃蜂開給爵士隊的 Gordon Hayward 的合約一樣,一份可能難以負荷的頂級合約 Morey clearly hoped that Parsons would play ball with the Rockets, waiting until Houston had taken care of its other major business before cashing in with a big contract. However, Parsons obviously felt the need to put pressure on the Rockets to get paid as much as possible. 莫雷今年夏天的計畫很明顯就是希望 Parsons 能夠等待火箭主要的暑期目標都塵埃落定後 在跟Parsons簽下一份大合約。 但顯然的, Parsons 經過十天等待後發覺他需要對火箭施加壓力才可能得到其想要的報價 If the Mavs are being honest, they'll admit that Parsons will be overpaid, no matter the market trend. They pegged the Plan B tier of small forwards in free agency -- Parsons, Hayward, Trevor Ariza and Luol Deng -- as a group whose value ranged from $8 million to $12 million per year. 如果小牛夠誠實,他們會坦然承認 Parsons 的合約是溢價的,這無關自由市場的趨勢。 畢竟小牛的B計畫─找一個合適的小前鋒 Parsons, Hayward, Trevor Ariza and Luol Deng 這幾位球員被評估價碼約為8M-12M左右 Parson was the Mavs' preferred target among the Plan Bs, but they had to go big if they were going to roll the dice on a restricted free agent who fits in the plans of his current team. The asking prices of Ariza and Deng are higher than the Mavs' perceived value of those players, so Dallas was going to have to bid higher than they hoped to get any small forward on that tier. If that's the case, it makes the most sense to do so with Parsons, whose arrow is going up after averaging career highs of 16.6 points, 5.5 rebounds and 4.0 assists last season. Parsons 是小牛B計畫中比較欣賞的球員,但對於受限制的自由球員,你必須給予一個更 大的合約才能使RFA比較不會被母隊給匹配。 小牛也詢問過 Ariza 和 Deng 的價格,不過都比預期的還要高【兩個人都在追求12M/Y】 所以如果想要拿下B計畫的球員,都會比當初預期的還要花費更多 既然都要開出更大的合約,報價 Parsons是最有意義的。 一個平均16.6分、5.5籃板和4次助攻,重點是25歲【年輕】還有成長的空間! The hometown-discount deal of Dirk Nowitzki gives the Mavs the luxury of overpaying to upgrade at small forward. Nowitzki's new three-year deal will pay him in the neighborhood of $10 million per season, a number the Rockets would double in a heartbeat if they could get their hands on the sweetest-shooting 7-footer in NBA history. Dirk的有情降價讓小牛在小前鋒這個位子可以享受稍微奢華的溢價來提升競爭力 Parsons at $15 million per year? That's an awfully steep price. 每年15m的合約簽下 Parsons?! 這將是一個過高的價碼 A Nowitzki-Parsons forward pair at $25 million per year? 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07/11 01:38, , 1F
CP catch&shoot能力不錯 會考慮CP高於魯蛋這也是部分
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07/11 01:38, , 2F
原因吧 加上可以報復火箭
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07/11 01:39, , 3F
CP 3分能力不錯 有一場比賽半場射進了十顆
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07/11 01:57, , 4F
樓上是整場吧? 半場太可怕了啦
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07/11 01:58, , 5F
ㄟ靠 還真的是半場 樓上抱歉
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07/11 01:59, , 6F
下半場十顆 總版有文章
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07/11 02:08, , 8F
推影片
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07/11 08:24, , 9F
影片被刪掉了嗎?
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07/11 08:26, , 10F
他好像是這個紀錄的保持人
07/11 08:26, 10F

07/11 08:29, , 11F
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07/11 09:20, , 12F
推這篇分析!一切合理了
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07/11 09:21, , 13F
尤其最後加入司機薪資來評估 反正一年都是25m
07/11 09:21, 13F

07/11 09:21, , 14F
誰拿多拿少的問題而已 司機甘願就好
07/11 09:21, 14F

07/11 09:26, , 15F
火箭付豪華稅的可能性高嗎 有沒有可能被反將一軍
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07/11 09:37, , 16F
..........司機情何以堪
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07/11 09:48, , 17F
簽offer時Dirk在場而且笑得超開心,樓上你說呢
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07/11 09:51, , 18F
XDD
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07/11 09:51, , 19F
兩個人看來是好朋友XD
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07/11 10:07, , 20F
喔不,腿詹今天十一點要確定去哪了
07/11 10:07, 20F

07/11 11:10, , 21F
結果是記者唬爛 等世界盃打完吧
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07/11 11:11, , 22F
害我還特地開EPSN跟LBJ的推特等消息lol
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07/11 11:12, , 23F
應該說在world cup結束前都不會有動作吧 火箭現在
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07/11 11:13, , 24F
處境比較尷尬XDDD
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07/11 11:18, , 25F
火箭好像要MATCH了
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07/11 11:21, , 26F

07/11 11:21, , 27F
真的嗎 要匹配火箭是被炸到傻了嗎= =
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07/11 11:22, , 28F
小尼說有備案 最慘就克勞德打先發 XD
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07/11 11:24, , 29F
尻德無辜中槍哈哈
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07/11 11:58, , 30F
我認為非常有難度,火箭跟進的原則是有簽下恩Bosh,
07/11 11:58, 30F

07/11 11:58, , 31F
但簽Bosh還需要透過交易清薪資空間,跟鵜鵠那筆失敗
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07/11 11:58, , 32F
,目前是說會再拉76人來三方交易,但現在Bosh在非洲
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07/11 11:58, , 33F
渡假,而Parsons的報價也已經送出,換句話說所有動
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07/11 11:58, , 34F
作得在不到72小時的時間內完成,Bosh也還在看喇叭動
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07/11 11:58, , 35F
向,要能在時限內搞定太難了
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07/11 12:20, , 36F
火箭跟CP約 然後交易林西後再補人 這樣有空間嗎?
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07/11 12:20, , 37F
沒有 他們現在帳面上就50幾M了,還沒加上Asik的約
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07/11 12:21, , 38F
如果真的火箭匹配了,下一個方案該搶誰呢?魯蛋?
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07/11 13:10, , 39F
滷蛋或Ariza 而且說不定不會到15M(可能12M?)
07/11 13:10, 39F
還有 48 則推文
還有 1 段內文
07/12 00:47, , 88F
而且火箭現在根本還沒決定要不要匹配CP25
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07/12 00:48, , 89F
小牛也沒啥空間談..= =
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07/12 00:48, , 90F
火箭三天內要清掉萬用包簽Bosh 才能用鳥權跟吧?
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07/12 00:49, , 91F
嚴格來說剩下不到2天的時間
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07/12 00:50, , 92F
只能等了 有點煎熬
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07/12 00:51, , 93F
就算LBJ回騎士,火箭也還是要先清掉萬用包才能簽Bosh
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07/12 00:51, , 94F
看推特說11PM CDT開始倒數72HR 是台灣今天中午12點嗎
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07/12 00:52, , 95F
更正 昨天
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07/12 00:52, , 96F
這兩天的時間要清萬用包再飛去非洲簽約,有難度
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07/12 00:54, , 97F
現在應該有電子簽約了吧 畢竟經紀人在@@
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07/12 00:54, , 98F
這樣看來 火箭要跟有難度XD 超爽!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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07/12 00:55, , 99F
之前蝶龍就是用IPAD簽的
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07/12 00:56, , 100F
萬用包剩阿西有點問題,Lin好像喬好了
07/12 00:56, 100F

07/12 00:58, , 101F
之前先談好的話,2天內簽bosh不是不可能
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07/12 00:59, , 102F
萬事俱備 也要火箭老闆願意交奢侈稅才能匹配
07/12 00:59, 102F

07/12 00:59, , 103F
但跟了真的要繳一堆稅
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07/12 01:00, , 104F
沒有之前先談好阿!Asik要換去鵜鶘的那筆昨天才因為
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07/12 01:00, , 105F
公布的salary cap低於預期所以被打槍,他們才正在尋
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07/12 01:00, , 106F
找三方或者四方交易的方案,目前看來還沒搞定
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07/12 01:01, , 107F
作為小牛迷 CP25能來很好 沒來也不要太驚訝
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07/12 01:01, , 108F
小牛和火箭沒拿到CP的,好像會轉向Ariza
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07/12 01:01, , 109F
其實有沒有拿到都是有婊到火箭了拉~
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07/12 01:01, , 110F
所以才顯得之前開給CP的約超爽啊!!! 有種就跟阿XDDDD
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07/12 01:03, , 111F
火箭匹配 註定只能4頂薪+9底薪打球 XD
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07/12 01:08, , 112F
http://ppt.cc/F-Va WOJ說BOSH搞定後將會匹配CP25
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07/12 01:08, , 113F
火箭跟囉
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07/12 01:09, , 114F
被跟了 沒辦法組聯盟最帥隊了
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07/12 01:10, , 115F
也要他們能搞定BOSH~
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07/12 01:10, , 116F
要先搞定BOSH 不然跟了直接沒空間
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07/12 01:10, , 117F
哇靠 只好簽魯蛋了 多少錢沒差了 不要簽四年就好
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07/12 01:11, , 118F
大概會去報Deng
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07/12 01:14, , 119F
希望Deng不要太貪心 談看看有沒有機會Marion也留下
07/12 01:14, 119F
目前走向應該是這樣 火箭兩天內處理完要賣的合約 然後 Bosh 同意簽約 在匹配 Parsons 這樣我們就開啟 plan c 大概是滷蛋和香妹等人 兩天內無法處理完約 bosh在這段時間內不同意簽約 我們就可以歡迎 Parsons了 ※ 編輯: feafow5221 (118.165.188.44), 07/12/2014 01:17:19

07/12 01:15, , 120F
Deng實在不看好阿 = =
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07/12 01:16, , 121F
Deng健康的話比起CP只強不弱吧 注意不要太操他就好
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07/12 01:18, , 122F
要說CP養到可以當Dirk接班人 老實講成功機率也是很低
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07/12 01:22, , 123F
CP頂多就副手吧
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07/12 01:27, , 124F
講得好像Dirk接班人很好找 要說只是找未來球隊基石
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07/12 01:27, , 125F
扯到接班人根本扯遠了
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07/12 10:14, , 126F
Cuban直接讓Morey呑毒藥合約,火箭葛屁了
07/12 10:14, 126F
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