[情報] Jarvis談2015年的爭議

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剛剛motogp官網釋出了一則消息,Yamaha車隊經理Lin Jarvis怎麼看去年賽末的爭議 連結:https://goo.gl/m924Ov,以下大略翻譯一下 Jarvis to La Gazzetta: “It was Valentino’s mistake" Jarvis對Gazzetta(義大利媒體)說去年雪邦的發言是Rossi的失誤 Team Manager talks 2015 turning points to La Gazzetta dello Sport ahead of the paddock’s return to Sepang 在雪邦站前(Yamaha)車隊經理在La Gazzetta dello Sport訪談中論及去年雪邦站的事件 As the Malaysian GP appears around the corner, Movistar Yamaha MotoGP’s Lin Jarvis talked to La Gazzetta dello Sport about the events of last year at the same track – after they sent shockwaves through the title fight. In the interview in the printed newspaper on Sunday, Jarvis talks about 2015, the future of Rossi's career - and the door being open for a Lorenzo return. 雪邦站即將到來之際,Lin Jarvis和義大利的運動媒體談到去年在雪邦發生的事件。周日 出版的報紙刊出了這篇訪談內容,Jarvis還談到了Rossi的生涯以及歡迎Lorenzo未來可以 回歸Yamaha。 “2015 only got complicated when Valentino was convinced that the race in Australia had been manipulated, and after the Press Conference in Malaysia, everything changed,” explained the Brit. “I would have liked Valentino to not have spoken about it or said anything. Riders should be quieter. I don’t think always saying exactly what you think is necessarily a good idea. And that’s applicable to Valentino and Jorge. 「在(2015年雪邦)賽前記者會後,2015年的冠軍爭戰情況變得很複雜,Rossi指控澳洲站 被(Marquez)操控。」Jarvis解釋。「我比較希望Rossi不要提到澳洲站的事,或乾脆什麼 都不要講。車手該保持沉默。我不覺得總是把心裡話坦白說出來有其必要,也不覺得這是 個好主意。這同樣適用於Rossi和Lorenzo。」(L99躺著也中槍) "If Rossi hadn’t been so hard on Marquez in the Press Conference in Sepang, I ’m convinced it wouldn’t have created the huge reaction from Marquez that it did. It was Valentino’s mistake.” 「假如賽前記者會Rossi沒有對Marquez態度那麼強硬,我相信Marquez反應也不會那麼大 ,這是Rossi失算了。」(指Marquez雪邦真的太故意?又一個中槍) Rossi was penalised for a move on Marquez during the race last year in Sepang. With the penalty points from the event added to another for a previous offence in Misano, the Italian was forced to start the Valencian GP from the back of the grid - as Lorenzo won the race and took the title. Rossi因為比賽時的擋線動作被判罰,加上Misano的罰點導致他在Valencian站最後位起 跑。最終Lorenzo獲勝並取得年度冠軍。 “Valentino could have been Champion if he stayed quiet, but instead, the situation exploded," continued the Team Manager. "They’re riders – hot headed and emotional – and you can’t control them, only give them advice. Valentino could have dealt with the situation in a different way and then maybe Sepang and the Championship would have had a different outcome. And Jorge played his part, feeling offended by Valentino. 「假如Rossi不放炮的話他本來可以拿下年度冠軍的,可惜最後情況失控了,」Jarvis接 著解釋。「賽車手就是賽車手:腦衝而且情緒化,你沒辦法控制他們,只能從旁給予建 議。Rossi可以用其他方式來處理當時的情況,也許最後雪邦站結果就會不同,年度冠軍 也可能不同。Lorenzo也覺得被Rossi攻擊。」 “Valentino has always been a master of psychological warfare. But when you find yourself in a situation where you’re facing someone just like you – maybe it doesn’t work, or maybe it has the opposite reaction to what you expected. I still think that if Valentino had managed the situation differently, the final result of the Championship could have been different.” 「Rossi一直很會用心理戰。可是當你面對一個和自己一樣的對手時,這招也許就不管用 了,更甚者可能產生和預期完全相反的結果。我仍然相信若當時Rossi用不同的方法來處 理這件事,最後他仍有機會拿到冠軍。」 Now, Jarvis believes Rossi could race on beyond the end of his current contract - 2018 - and also stated that after 9 years and 3 MotoGP™ World Championships together, the door for Lorenzo would remain open for a return from Ducati in the future. Jarvis認為即使在2018年合約走完之後,Rossi仍然可以在賽場上有競爭力。並且指出基 於共事九年和三次世界冠軍的合作歷史,假如Lorenzo願意從Ducati回來的話,Yamaha 的門永遠為你開啟。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 219.85.130.219 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Moto_GP/M.1477578818.A.DD0.html

10/27 22:37, , 1F
Lor兩年後還有機會回yamaha那Vin跟Ros該怎麼辦
10/27 22:37, 1F
※ 編輯: momokoshi (219.85.130.219), 10/27/2016 22:46:53

10/27 22:49, , 2F
這也要看99之後去D廠的表現了 不知道之後還有沒有夠力
10/27 22:49, 2F

10/27 22:49, , 3F
的新人出現
10/27 22:49, 3F

10/27 22:58, , 4F
Vin跑得好的話也是嗎?
10/27 22:58, 4F

10/27 23:02, , 5F
我個人認為Rossi在2018之後,就算繼續跑下去也不會留在Ya
10/27 23:02, 5F

10/27 23:02, , 6F
maha廠隊,但以他的影響力衛星車隊拿到當年度的廠車應該
10/27 23:02, 6F

10/27 23:02, , 7F
也不是問題
10/27 23:02, 7F

10/27 23:04, , 8F
至於Lorenzo在Ducati也不會像Rossi那麼掙扎,畢竟Ducati
10/27 23:04, 8F

10/27 23:04, , 9F
也不是當年的Ducati
10/27 23:04, 9F

10/27 23:56, , 10F
   L. J. 鞭了99 & 93 & 46 意謂: "93也是心戰大師
10/27 23:56, 10F

10/27 23:57, , 11F
 93在去年馬站因46賽前記者會的發言而'反應巨大'!
10/27 23:57, 11F

10/27 23:58, , 12F
 99也是話多 99也參了一腳" LJ的說法算相當客觀啦
10/27 23:58, 12F

10/27 23:58, , 13F
 估計99回不去Y廠隊了 LJ只是不想把話說死說醜罷了
10/27 23:58, 13F

10/27 23:59, , 14F
 99跟46當隊友7季 說好聽算平手 但其實99算小輸46
10/27 23:59, 14F

10/28 00:00, , 15F
 若再衡量年齡&人氣&商機的差距 99可謂大輸給46啊
10/28 00:00, 15F

10/28 00:00, , 16F
 46若要離開 難道Y廠隊那門就不會也同時為93而開嗎?
10/28 00:00, 16F

10/28 00:01, , 17F
 93 25 Rins 不都很有機會進這門內? 而99? 很拼啦 XD
10/28 00:01, 17F

10/28 00:26, , 18F
我也是認為老猴這步算錯了,MM不同於以往面對的對手,有能力
10/28 00:26, 18F

10/28 00:26, , 19F
做到他想做的,而他就是要對著幹,而且更快更兇,老猴沒本錢
10/28 00:26, 19F

10/28 00:27, , 20F
拚阿,摔了就沒了...MM就在這點上心理戰吃死老羅了
10/28 00:27, 20F

10/28 01:25, , 21F
事後諸葛人人都會,用結果來說早知道,坦白說,有點多餘,
10/28 01:25, 21F

10/28 01:25, , 22F
還不如做好自己車隊份內該做的事,讓Y牌明年不要說得太難
10/28 01:25, 22F

10/28 01:25, , 23F
10/28 01:25, 23F

10/28 01:26, , 24F
我算是支持46 但去年的事完全無言 指控這種找不到證據
10/28 01:26, 24F

10/28 01:27, , 25F
的事 只是顯得自己的不成熟 連粉絲都不太能接受
10/28 01:27, 25F

10/28 01:51, , 26F
我是93雪邦被人這樣說 是我也玩死他 MM根本沒在怕46的
10/28 01:51, 26F

10/28 07:15, , 27F
 去年99的冠軍慶祝活動為何被Y廠取消呢 很不給99面子
10/28 07:15, 27F

10/28 07:16, , 28F
 羅馬風波成了未解的爭議 93會否有形象人氣的損失呢?
10/28 07:16, 28F

10/28 07:18, , 29F
 這話裏什麼含意啊? http://i.imgur.com/HRTIeG9.jpg
10/28 07:18, 29F

10/28 08:33, , 30F
Laverty就暗示他不認同46的做法,除了46外沒人有20 years
10/28 08:33, 30F

10/28 08:33, , 31F
reputation
10/28 08:33, 31F

10/28 08:35, , 32F
99是回不了Y廠,46經歷黑暗2年還回得來,人氣才是主因
10/28 08:35, 32F

10/28 08:45, , 33F
$$
10/28 08:45, 33F

10/28 08:57, , 34F
 去年澳站 93前前後後只是在管理前輪? 或93在小搞?
10/28 08:57, 34F

10/28 08:57, , 35F
 去年馬站 93/46瘋狂互超只因車性差異? 或93在大搞?
10/28 08:57, 35F

10/28 08:58, , 36F
 去年瓦站 93沒去超99卻去超26 那93又是有搞或沒搞?
10/28 08:58, 36F

10/28 08:58, , 37F
 93說46踢他 但HRC & FIM又不提出數據 或提不出數據?
10/28 08:58, 37F

10/28 08:58, , 38F
 是否真在管理前輪? 是否真被踢? 能從數據去看出嗎?
10/28 08:58, 38F
還有 55 則推文
10/28 14:14, , 94F
謝謝猴迷在冠軍確定後維持版上討論的熱度
10/28 14:14, 94F

10/28 14:15, , 95F
比較快不如比較穩 比較穩不如比較安靜(?
10/28 14:15, 95F

10/28 14:20, , 96F
我以為起手式都要先喊 還不是靠車好
10/28 14:20, 96F

10/28 14:25, , 97F
那麼強怎麼從D牌開始都拿不到一座世界冠軍呢?還一直放瞎
10/28 14:25, 97F

10/28 14:25, , 98F
話誰誰誰串通好讓自己國家的人拿頭銜?媽的笑死人了,賽
10/28 14:25, 98F

10/28 14:25, , 99F
車就是各憑本事,速度快穩定性高的就贏,速度不快穩定性
10/28 14:25, 99F

10/28 14:25, , 100F
輸還不認,自己耍心機耍不贏人靠北個屁呀!還九屆世界冠
10/28 14:25, 100F

10/28 14:26, , 101F
軍勒,那麼強在Ducati或Suzuki拿一座來看看啊。阿不好意
10/28 14:26, 101F

10/28 14:26, , 102F
思我忘了他已經夾著猴子尾巴跟老二逃離Ducati了~
10/28 14:26, 102F

10/28 14:47, , 103F
給人一點基本的尊重吧= =
10/28 14:47, 103F

10/28 14:48, , 104F
這明擺著引戰的各位就別上當了, 寄信給版主檢舉就好
10/28 14:48, 104F

10/28 14:52, , 105F
真覺得... 93 46 99怎樣說是為了他們賽事 但車迷說成這樣
10/28 14:52, 105F

10/28 14:53, , 106F
搞得好像93 46 99最了解一樣...噗噗
10/28 14:53, 106F

10/28 15:10, , 107F
在座各位沒人是93 99 46的朋友吧 那麼有什麼好吵的呢
10/28 15:10, 107F

10/28 15:10, , 108F
你們根本不認識XD戰的比本人兇
10/28 15:10, 108F

10/28 16:38, , 109F
好像運動最後都會分兩邊,GP是猴迷跟猴黑
10/28 16:38, 109F

10/28 16:51, , 110F
很多事情不同角度看會有不同結果 但是何必一直要人持
10/28 16:51, 110F

10/28 16:51, , 111F
相同想法 爭贏了又如何呢
10/28 16:51, 111F

10/28 20:18, , 112F
fay大的推文應該是近兩個月最狂的
10/28 20:18, 112F

10/28 20:43, , 113F
真的超狂XDDDDDD
10/28 20:43, 113F

10/28 21:08, , 114F
有人咬餌啦~
10/28 21:08, 114F

10/28 23:31, , 115F
93的支持度 看他澳洲站摔車時 場邊觀眾的反應就知道了XD
10/28 23:31, 115F

10/28 23:31, , 116F
D
10/28 23:31, 116F

10/28 23:56, , 117F
說太直啦 實話會傷人
10/28 23:56, 117F

10/29 01:19, , 118F
fayever完美示範石頭粉素質!
10/29 01:19, 118F

10/29 02:34, , 119F
GP就棒球一樣阿,不是爪迷就是反爪迷,猴迷跟反猴迷
10/29 02:34, 119F

10/29 04:34, , 120F
去年的雪邦跟瓦倫西亞站的表現 完全證明93毫無運動精神
10/29 04:34, 120F

10/29 04:35, , 121F
46犯的錯就是飛利浦島之後的放話 得到WC再來放話也不遲
10/29 04:35, 121F

10/29 04:35, , 122F
不過也許得到WC也沒放話的必要了
10/29 04:35, 122F

10/29 04:36, , 123F
另外fay的發言非常可恥 不過像這類人也不少
10/29 04:36, 123F

10/29 08:37, , 124F
護駕護駕 R粉理盲到只能說別隊車迷素質差了 好可憐哈哈
10/29 08:37, 124F

10/29 08:57, , 125F
去年的事情是過了,但仍餘音繚繞呢,不如問問,有件事情一
10/29 08:57, 125F

10/29 08:57, , 126F
直想知道,為何本田不肯公佈數據呢
10/29 08:57, 126F

10/29 08:59, , 127F
要嘛就公佈,讓大家更能釐清整件事情。雖然這會是雙面刃,
10/29 08:59, 127F

10/29 08:59, , 128F
對於93&46都一一面是不利的
10/29 08:59, 128F

10/29 09:01, , 129F
但這會是把整個關鍵徹底釐清的鑰匙。
10/29 09:01, 129F

10/29 12:28, , 130F
因為大會說不要公布啊。我沒有想吵,純粹回樓上~
10/29 12:28, 130F

10/29 12:54, , 131F
不是素質差,難到是崩潰?
10/29 12:54, 131F

10/29 12:55, , 132F
難道
10/29 12:55, 132F

10/29 13:29, , 133F
不是素質差也不是崩潰啦,勇於表達而已
10/29 13:29, 133F
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