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Ranking the Best Shooting Guards In the NBA
by Joe Moore http://0rz.tw/y6jGq
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<<Tier 1:第一階>>
＊1.Dwyane Wade
Wade, James Harden, and Kobe Bryant, or some iteration of the three, are
widely considered the only stars at shooting guard. Wade’s defense is
the decisive factor in creating the slight separation between himself,
Harden and Bryant.
Wade & James Harden & Kobe Byrant 這三位球員是被普遍認為真正的明星得分後衛。
而Wade的防守能力為自己增加了一些與Harden和Bryant之間的區別性。
While Wade is not always dedicated defensively, he positively affects Miami
at that end far more often than Harden and Bryant do their teams.
Harden and Bryant have very little interest in on-ball defense, and can
often be found drifting off their man, floating on defense without purpose.
即使Wade並不總是盡力在防守端上面，但他在防守端上對於熱火隊正面的影響力，
都比Harden和Bryant之於他們所處的球隊來的多。
Harden和Bryant在防守持球者時，有一個有趣的的共通點。
時常可以發覺在他們在防守的對位球員旁夢遊，並且毫無防守意識的跑動。
While Wade’s effort can be criticized, he is more consistent defensively
than either Harden or Bryant, and has a greater impact at maximum effort
as well. Though Wade benefits from playing with LeBron James, his offensive
efficiency may be equally valuable to the slightly less efficient creation
of Harden and Bryant.
然而Wade在防守端的努力是可以接受公評的，他比其他兩位球員更專注在防守上面。
並且當三位球員都盡全力防守時，Wade擁有更巨大的影響力。
雖然Wade因在LeBron James旁打球而得利，但他在進攻端的效率所展現的價值，
與其他兩位球員較缺乏一些些的有效創造進攻機會能力相比，卻是相同的。
Dwyane Wade 12-13:
MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG | FG% 3PT% FT% | ORTG DRTG | WS/48 |
34.7 21.2 5 5.1 1.9 0.8 | 52.1% 25.8% 72.5% | 104 101 | 0.192 |
Salaries 12-13: $17,182,000
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＊2.James Harden
Often called the future of the shooting guard position,
James Harden is already the present.
At only 24 years old, Harden is one of the best offensive players
in the league. Though he can score from anywhere on the court,
he generally restricts his shot selection to only the most
efficient areas–behind the arc and at the rim.
James Harden過去常被稱呼為未來得分後衛的扛霸子，但現在他已經是了。
年僅24歲的他，是聯盟中最佳的進攻球員之一。
雖然他能夠在場上任何位置得分，
但他嚴選他的出手選擇在最有效率的區塊:三分 & 籃框附近。
The Rockets have built their entire offense around him in the
pick and roll.
Along with being an incredible scorer, Harden is one of the
best passers in the league, and repeatedly finds teammates for
open threes as defenses collapse on his drives.
火箭隊已將整個進攻體系圍繞在Harden的Pick & Roll能力中建築。
除了身為一名傑出的得分手，Harden也是聯盟中最佳的傳導者之一，
在他切入突破時，不斷地能找到防守漏洞並傳給三分外線的射手。
At 50.4 percent, Harden and Bryant have the exact same adjusted
field goal percentage. What separates Harden from Bryant,
and most of the league, is his ability to draw fouls.
Harden’s true shooting percentage, which includes free throws,
is 60 percent, which is incredible for a guard, while Bryant’s is
slightly less efficient 57 percent.
Harden和Bryant有著一樣的AFG%:50.4%。(*註:AFG% = [FGM + (3PM/2)]/FGA)
如果要再兩者之間做個區別，那就是Harden領先全盟的造犯規能力。
Harden的TS%:60%，在後衛群中是非常傑出的。而Byrant是些微落後的57%。
(*註:TS% = Pts/2 * [FGA + 0.44*FTA])
James Harden 12-13:
MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG | FG% 3PT% FT% | ORTG DRTG | WS/48 |
38.3 25.9 4.9 5.8 1.8 0.5 | 43.8% 36.8% 85.1% | 116 106 | 0.206 |
Salaries 12-13: $5,820,417
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＊3.Kobe Bryant
Though Bryant’s season may be remembered for his Achilles injury,
his offensive performance this season was very impressive.
雖然過了本季，大家都會記得Bryant因阿基里斯腱受傷而報銷。
但他在進攻端的表現也是令人印象深刻的。
Fighting old age, injuries, roster instability, coaching change and
possibly Dwight Howard, Kobe finished with his highest true-shooting
percentage since the 2007-08 season, and the highest assist percentage
of his career.
本季Kobe對抗著諸多問題，如:高齡，傷痛，球隊陣容不穩定，換教練，甚至Howard。
但本季他仍表現出至從07-08球季後的個人新高TS%，以及生涯最高的AST%:29.7。
(*註:AST% = 100 * AST / ((( MP / ( Tm MP / 5 )) * Tm FG ) - FG ) )
Though his defense was often crippling, his offense was brilliant.
With him on the court, the Lakers scored 110.4 points per 100 possessions.
Bryant is often criticized for his supposed “selfishness,”
but had a higher assist percentage than Harden, who rarely suffers
the same criticisms.
即使他在防守端的表現是很糜爛的，但進攻端上是出色的。
當湖人隊有他在場上時，球隊每一百回合進攻中能取得110.4Pts。
雖然Bryant時常因"自我中心主義"而備受爭議，
但他有著與他相比鮮少受這方面批評的Harden還要高的AST%。
Kobe Bryant 12-13:
MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG | FG% 3PT% FT% | ORTG DRTG | WS/48 |
38.6 27.3 5.6 6.0 1.4 0.3 46.3% 32.4% 83.9% 112 107 0.174
Salaries 12-13: $27,849,149
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<<Tier 2 :第二階>>
＊4.Andre Iguodala
Iguodala played small forward for most of his career, but transitioned to a
shooting guard role for Denver (one of the few intricacies of player analysis
actually covered in these rankings).
Iguodala在他的職業生涯中大部分都是打小前鋒的位置，
但因為交易到金塊隊後，因球隊需求他改打得分後衛。
Iguodala is decent offensively. He creates opportunities for his teammates,
but does not always convert the ones he creates for himself,
and has a high turnover rate.
Iguodala有不錯的進攻能力。
他可以替自己的隊友創造進攻機會，但卻無法投進為自己所創造的機會，
並有著相當高的TOV%:17.1%。
(*註:TOV% = 100 * TO / ( FGA + 0.44 * FTA + TO ))
In short he, has his moments offensively, and is consistently great defensively.
He defends the opponents best perimeter player, from LeBron James to
Stephen Curry, and produces among the best defensive results in the league.
簡單來說，他有自己特色的進攻能力，而且非常好又紮實的防守能力。
他總是防守著敵人最佳的後場球員，從LeBron James到Stephen Curry，
並且繳出聯盟最佳的防守數據。
Andre Iguodala 12-13:
MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG | FG% 3PT% FT% | ORTG DRTG | WS/48 |
34.7 13.0 5.3 5.4 1.7 0.7 | 45.1% 31.7% 57.4% | 105 105 | 0.097 |
Salaries 12-13: $14,968,250
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<<Tier 3:第三階>>
Here it gets a bit (a lot) more convoluted.
Potential disrupts the perception of current ability,
but potential should also affect current value.
For an older player, performance over the duration of a season outweighs
a strong finish, while for younger players, a strong finish could be a
sign of long-lasting improvement.
Players like Klay Thompson, Bradley Beal and Jimmy Butler all made dramatic
improvements by the end of the season, but players like Arron Afflalo,
Joe Johnson and J.J. Redick may have been better over the duration
of the season.
現在我們跳進了一個更大一點漩渦中。
潛力影響我們對一個球員目前的能力的感覺，但潛力也會影響一個球員目前的價值。
對一些年紀較長的球員來說，持續一整季的穩定表現，比季末拉尾盤來的重要的多。
對一些年紀較輕的球員來說，在季末的亮眼成績能夠贏來一份長期的合約和成長機會。
像Klay Thompson, Bradley Beal & Jimmy Butler這樣的球員們，
都在季末獲得引人注目的成長。
而像Arron Afflalo,Joe Johnson & J.J. Redick這樣的球員們，
或許一整季都是持續表現較好的表現。
At least at this moment, this third tier consists of the Joe Johnson,
the oft-injured Eric Gordon, Arron Afflalo, J.J. Redick, Bradley Beal,
Jimmy Butler, Klay Thompson and Manu Ginobili. Beal, Butler and
Thompson all finished the season at a high level, Afflalo and Redick were
consistently above average for mediocre to bad teams, Johnson was consistently
above average for an above average team, Gordon was consistently not playing
for a team and Ginobili was inconsistently excellent for a great team.
All of these players have flaws, but all are, or at least by the end of
the season appeared to be, a positive factor for their team.
至少在這個時間點，第三階的組成球員包含了:Joe Johnson,經常受傷的Eric Gordon,
Arron Afflalo, J.J. Redick, Bradley Beal,Jimmy Butler, Klay Thompson and
Manu Ginobili.
Beal, Butler and Thompson皆以高水準的演出為本季劃下句點，
而Afflalo和Redick則是一貫地高於一般水平的演出，對於二流球隊而言，
而Johnson則是一貫地高於一般水平的演出，對於高於一般水平的球隊而言，
而Gordon則是一貫地的缺賽，Ginobili則是不穩定的傑出表現，對於非常好的隊伍而言，
所有這些球員都有缺陷，但至少他們全部都在本季成為球隊的正面能量。
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<<Tier 4:第四階>>
Now we reach the depths of even greater convolution, where potential and
production vary from game to game.
Here the flaws are more fatal, the potential is less likely to result in
production or the ceiling of production is lower.
This tier includes Avery Bradley, Lance Stephenson, Tyreke Evans,
DeMar Derozan, Kevin Martin, Iman Shumpert, Danny Green, Tony Allen,
Wesley Matthews, Warriors’ acquaintance Monta Ellis, and others.
現在我們要邁進一個更複雜的階段，這批人的潛力和場上表現每場都不同。
這個討論會有更多致命性的缺陷。
潛力通常不會轉換成球場的上產出，或者產出是因為其他瓶頸限制著。
這個階段的球員包含:Avery Bradley, Lance Stephenson, Tyreke Evans,
DeMar Derozan, Kevin Martin, Iman Shumpert, Danny Green, Tony Allen,
Wesley Matthews和勇士隊的過客Monta Ellis及其他球員。
As a disclaimer, these tiers and rankings do not indicate a finite judgement
of these players boundaries and abilities.
Finding Klay Thompson’s place relative to his peers helps improve perspective
on Thompson’s value to the Golden State Warriors, his progress and
current abilities and his future.
免責聲明:對這個階段的球員及排名之評論，並不是對他們的能力及範圍蓋棺論定。
而找到Klay Thompson定位，會與他的隊友有關。
讓我們更能夠洞察到他在勇士隊的價值，整個過程和他現有的能力及未來。
Thompson has an elite skill, separating him from many of the other
shooting guards in the league.
His inappropriate use of this skill is what limits him.
He likely lacks the athleticism to ever reach the Wade-Harden-Kobe plateau,
but by improving his shot selection, Thompson can become a consistently
dangerous offensive threat, and jis ability to shoot not just out of spot up
but off screens, allows him to create for teammates in atypical ways.
Dump downs to big men and kick outs to wings off drives stemming from defenses
overplaying the jump shot are as important to Thompson’s offensive value
as his scoring.
Thompson有著高超的技術，讓他與其他聯盟中的得分後衛有所區別。
而不恰當地使用這些技巧，才會是限制他表現的原因。
他或許與Wade-Harden-Kobe這三人的等級相比，是較缺乏運動能力的。
但藉由改善投籃選擇，他已經成為一名穩定且具有進攻威脅性的球員，
而且他不只有定點跳投能力，也有單擋掩護後出手的能力，讓他能夠為隊友創造機會。
對於Thompson的進攻價值來說，經過他的內外傳球，
讓外線球員能趁防守過度積極封阻跳投時切入，是和他的得分一樣重要的
Thompson needs to improve his decision making and general offensive awareness,
along with his dribbling, if he ever wants to become an offensive star,
but his shooting ability and defense will make him a very good shooting guard
with only minimal improvements.
如果他有曾想過要變成一名進攻明星，
那Thompson並須改善當他運球時，他的決策能力和進攻意識。
即便如此，
他的投籃及防守能力已足夠讓他只需要做出細微改善，便能成為一名非常好的得分後衛。
Klay Thompson 12-13:
MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG | FG% 3PT% FT% | ORTG DRTG | WS/48 |
35.8 16.6 3.7 2.2 1.0 0.5 | 42.2% 40.1% 84.1% | 102 111 | 0.070 |
Salaries 12-13: $2,222,160
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