[外絮] Andre Iguodala為什麼這麼愛防守啊已回收

看板NBA (美國籃球)作者 (一根毛兒)時間12年前 (2013/09/21 22:02), 編輯推噓58(58030)
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Why is Andre Iguodala so defensive? Andre Iguodala為什麼這麼愛防守啊? Andre Iguodala is going gray. That’s the first thing I noticed at the Warriors practice facility in downtown Oakland on Wednesday. Breaking news, you heard it here first. Slightly famous athlete suffers from apoptosis of the follicle. It’s just that the white hairs are a bit shocking on a guy whose physique looks like Batman’s armor. Andre Iguodala冒出白頭髮了!我星期三在勇士隊奧克蘭市中心的練習球場時 第一件注意到的事。這可是來自我這的最新消息!小有名氣的運動員開始受到 毛囊細胞壞死的摧殘。對於這位身體看起來像是蝙蝠俠的盔甲的人長了白頭髮 ,還真的有點驚訝。 I’m casting science aside and blaming the Philadelphia media for Iguodala’s premature “Just for Men” status. “Iggy” (Iguodala hates that media-given nickname, by the way) mastered the subtle art of defense while the local sports pundits not so subtly bellowed that he wasn’t worth the contract. Philly’s a famously angry market, and from what I could tell, its fixation was more on what Iguodala couldn’t do rather than what he could. 對於Iguodala提早發生的男人問題,我不管科學原因,而把責任歸咎於費城媒 體。雖然「Iggy」(話說,Iguodala討厭這個媒體給的綽號)精通精巧藝術般 的防守,費城運動權威卻大力批評他不值這份薪水。費城市場是有名的兇惡, 而就我看到的是費城只關注Iguodala不能做的而非他能做的。 Then the Sixers traded him to Denver for the concept of Andrew Bynum. Despite losing Arron Afflalo in the deal, the Nuggets went from a 47-win lockout pace to a franchise record 57 wins. The Sixers trudged to the lottery, trampling Doug Collins’ soul in the process. 然後,七六人為了換來Andrew Bynum將他交易到丹佛。儘管在交易中失去Arron Afflalo,金塊隊勝場從47勝(將封館的場數換算成完整球季場數)上升至隊史 紀錄的57勝。七六人隊則跌跌撞撞邁向觀念魂,途中順便踐踏了Doug Collins (譯按:前七六人隊教練。)的靈魂。 Denver was 20th in defensive efficiency before Iguodala arrived and 11th when he left. Philadelphia was third in defensive efficiency in Iguodala’s last season there. Last season, they sunk to 15th. 在Iguadala來之前丹佛金塊隊防守效率是聯盟第二十名,而在他離開時進步到 聯盟第十一名。另一方面,費城七六人隊在Iguodala在時防守效率是聯盟第三 。上一季,七六人的防守效率掉到聯盟第十五 So where was the widespread credit? Even if George Karl had kept his job, I doubt the public would have embraced Iguodala’s defensive impact as a storyline. 對於這件事,哪裡有聽到大家的掌聲呢?即使George Karl(譯按:前金塊教 練)保住他的飯碗,我也懷疑大眾會把Iguodala的防守影響力當個話題對待。 We don’t care about defense. It’s about creating the absence of something, which sounds more like preventative maintenance than the action fans crave from sports. Tune in folks, watch Iguodala perform the NBA equivalent of sealing a wood deck. 大家不重視防守。防守在創造看不見的價值,這聽起來像是預防措施,而非球 迷渴望運動帶來的震撼。各位觀眾照子該放亮了,仔細欣賞Iguadala在NBA球 場上表演密不透風的防守吧。 A lot goes into Iguodala tilting the odds against action, but it will be ignored for the most part. His defense is as public as it is obscure. Maybe that’s why he sounds a bit annoyed when discussing his game and how it’s regarded. Iguodala is quite literally soft-spoken, but he seemed downright brash on Wednesday on the topic of his D and its impact (bolded emphasis mine). 很多時候Iguodala作的就是在球場上打預防針,但這些動作往往被人們忽略。 他的防守實力大家都知道,但同時也諱莫如深。這也是為何他在人們討論他的 比賽內容時會如此煩躁。Iguadala著實是個講話溫文儒雅的人,但星期三主題 談到他的防守和影響力時口氣卻顯得十足的自大(不斷的強調自己)。 You think you have another level you can go to individually? 問題:你覺得你自己能更上一層樓嗎? Yeah, definitely. I don’t think I’ve gotten enough credit for what I bring to certain teams, especially last year with the record we had, breaking the franchise record for wins and how we kind of kept everything together and pulled off a great season. 當時是的。我覺得我對於一些球隊的幫助沒有受到重視,尤其是上一季我們戰 績輝煌,不但打破了隊史紀錄而且我們保持一切並完成一個美好的球季。 How much credit do you deserve for the defensive leap that Denver took last season? 對於上一季丹佛金塊隊的防守進步,你覺得你值多少功勞? I would say I had a lot to do with it, because I had a lot of responsibility, especially in the pick-and-roll coverage on the weak side and having to guard two guys, the diver and the 3-point shooter. Which is ... it’s damned near impossible. I see a lot of teams lose games off that. 我會說很大一部份是我的功勞,因為我負責很多。尤其是在防守弱邊檔拆時必 須同時防守切入禁區的人和三分射手。這……是幾乎他媽的不可能。我看過很 多球隊因為守不住這個而輸球。 This could be the season that Mr. "Damned Near Impossible" finds his recognition. He joins a team whose fanbase has long pleaded for better defense. The last season in which Golden State was better than 10th in defensive efficiency happened 35 years ago. 這個球季可能是「幾乎他媽的不可能」先生獲得認同的一季。他加入的球隊的 球迷長期盼望更好的防守。金洲勇士隊的防守效率在聯盟前十名已經是三十五 年前的事了。 Good defense is damned near impossible to notice. Unless it’s a total change of pace from what you’re used to. Warriors fans were beside themselves over the flashes of defensive might bequeathed by Andrew Bogut, Klay Thompson and Harrison Barnes. If Iguodala vaults this unit to an elite level, Oracle Arena might levitate. 好的防守是幾乎他媽的不可能被注意到。除非,球隊有個全新的比賽步調。勇 士球迷有Andrew Bogut、Klay Thompson和Harrison Barnes留下來的防守印象 可以比較。如果Iguodala能將這個陣容的防守提升至精英等級,那Orcale球館 (譯按:勇士隊主場)可能會爽到升天。 For now, Memphis has the market cornered on fan-friendly defense with their “Grit n’ Grind” branding, energetic crowd, and charismatic spokesman in Tony Allen. Iguodala could be GSW’s Allen -- a reason and symbol for a popular team’s cultural shift. In his 10th season, the often dismissed and maligned Iguodala could finally get his due. 目前,曼菲斯灰熊隊壟斷了支持防守的球迷市場,他們有「Grit n’ Grind」 的加油口號、充滿活力的球迷和魅力十足的防守代言人-Tony Allen。Iguodala 可以成為金洲勇士隊的Allen,一個球隊轉變的動機和象徵。在這十個球季裡 ,常常被忽略和中傷的Iguodala終於可以得到他應得的。 Oh, who am I kidding? If the Warriors go deep in the playoffs we’re going to focus on Steph Curry’s 3-point shooting and little else. 喔,我在跟誰開玩笑啊!如果勇士隊在季後賽走更遠,被大家關注的只會是 Steph Curry的三分球啦。 原文網址- http://tinyurl.com/lkv474y 心得: 為小AI平反的文章好像沒有很多 這篇點出了不少小AI為金塊帶來的影響 以及少了小AI的七六人的狀況 文章說到「大家不在乎防守」好像又過了些 畢竟這幾年大家都知道「防守才能贏總冠軍」 我想他想表達的重點應該是防守好手的價值總是被忽略 但話又說回來 一個球員的防守影響力到底能有多大? on-off court的正負值和Drtg好像也不能完全展現 而且我認為防守多半還是靠團隊和體系 不過小AI的影響力在去年金塊已經完全展現出來 他這種2-3號都可以鎖死,偶爾還可以小頂一下4號的搖擺人真的是聯盟稀有動物 再加上強大的運動能力 不但在防守上可以負責比別人更多的區域 防守反擊也是很好的箭頭 同時,去年勇士防守已經是聯盟中段班 要是能再給勇士隊多點防守幫助 我想應該還是會有更多支持小AI的聲音啦 自己很期待明年的勇士隊(前提是健康的話,團隊傷病史也很精彩) (有任何翻譯錯誤麻煩提出喔,感謝) -- 新手NBA外電翻譯+數據分析部落格 http://mola79321.pixnet.net/blog 歡迎來討論!!! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 124.218.28.122

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擊墜魂!
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推Iggy 弱邊的協防站位真得重要 最糟的例子就是Kobe
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推小AI
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推二樓 有點到某人
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球迷還是比較愛看得分爆發力高的球星吧 太沉默得不愛
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也推一下小AI的防守 很強
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不過他真的是個好球員 啥都可以做些
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是阿 運動的現實,但這種球員有他的價值在
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球迷雖然會忽略,專家就不會了
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Iguodala的輪轉意識真的很棒 他在進攻上PlayMaker的
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一級球星的能力 跑去做苦工的差事 暴殄天物
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能力也常常被人忘記
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當球隊有很多需要控球權的人 有時候能力幫助在其他方
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沒啥好暴殄天物的 認真防守本來就是每個球員的本分
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面 對團隊也是很重要的 像防守 防守反擊 make play等
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他在NBA版不是有外號-擊墜王 被酸爆= =
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而Iggy就是個很敬業的球員 防守端認真而不會擺爛
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LBJ:現在才毛囊壞死?! 你還太嫩了
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夏季有他補破網 等著勇士大起飛吧 嘎裡的新護衛
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硬漢,,聯盟裡不多了
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推這篇
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非常適合當二哥 給他一個一哥看可不可以變pippen
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Curry
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好文
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小AI必推!
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請問一下擊墜梗的由來?
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蠻全能的 防守又硬
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非常期待今年的勇士
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看DH上季被批評就知道啦^^
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一群體能勁爆的雙能為給他守 可以節省嘎裡的體力
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※ 編輯: idiotsmart 來自: 124.218.28.55 (09/21 22:44)

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擊墜哥
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擊墜王是之前有板友誇IGGY的時候被酸的
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但不能否認IGGY防守真的很優秀
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請到他以前待過的某隊去搜尋"擊墜"
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擊墜魂
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要有他這種運動力才守的好
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純推ID!
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Lockdown defender
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推小ai 防守很好
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期待勇士變身防守強隊
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一個就可以扛現在聯盟2~3球員的工作 黃金綠葉不解釋
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IC 聯線 會很強 攻防一體
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推AI做不少苦工
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一般球迷的眼睛只會看著那個球傳過來傳過去進籃框
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個人很欣賞Iggy...萬用搭配型的防守球員
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要大眾注意到場上十個人的防守狀況確實難了點
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不過被酸的主因還是跟薪水有關還有sf強勢年代
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今年最成功的交易勇士=>爵士...2000萬...在補AI!!!
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黃金老二
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最強的老二:
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想看他守死賣鞋哥
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黃金老二給AI...還是沒有用...戰神哭哭
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如果灰熊T.Allen換成Iggy那才真的飛天了
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推好文
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小AI得防守到國際賽也是極品
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選的好、翻得好
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小AI真的很棒阿 防守超大鎖 進攻基本能力也不錯
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他就不愛攻 以前都覺得他有可能成為明星SG的
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推~
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推無私又專注防守的小AI
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盡管如此還是一直被低估 可惜
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身為前76人13年球迷 小AI真的讓我失望
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當時真的很希望他能接下ai的位置領導76人 但Y
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打法越來越保守 不積極進攻 關鍵不出馬
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讓76人沒有代表性的大將領導者 反而是後來的哈樂戴
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有這種領導氣質與能力...可惜76連他都交易
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76人還是去打發展聯盟算了.....
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是逸仙哥!!!
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主因還是金塊願意放棄打鐵王
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會被忽略有部分原因 是他也不常靠抄截或火鍋上高光
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大老二
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小AI真的不是王牌料,但是他的防守其實也早就被NBA重
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視,否則不會選他進奧運
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頂級老二啊
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最接近Pippen的人?
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應該說 防守 比較像 功能性球員的工作?
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明星球只要突出的攻擊性 就算防禦差 評價好像也不錯
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而且小AI 那時候就是希望像AI一樣 76自然對他有大期
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長得很像功夫裡十二路彈腿那個
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擊墜
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看好勇士 馬刺冠軍路上第二強對手
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小AI就是頂級副手阿 不適合一哥
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頂級二哥
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借轉廢墟版 謝謝
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garenas0:轉錄至看板 Sixers 09/23 17:01
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