[外絮] Omer Asik talks progressing已回收

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消息來源: http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/779/omer-asik-talks-progressing Latest rumbles from the Omer Asik trade sweepstakes: There is no hard proof yet to support the theory -- first presented in this tweet from my USA Today colleague Sam Amick -- that the Houston Rockets already have a trade framework in place to solve their Asik conundrum and are only waiting to see if someone else out there steps up to beat the mystery offer between now and Houston’s self-imposed Thursday deadline to deal Asik. 消息指出火箭早就準備好多個交易Asik的計畫 現在只是在等等看哪隊的GM突然傻了拿一個好的包裹來換 However ... While strong rumbles persist that the Philadelphia 76ers are the team most likely to go along with such an arrangement, given the close ties between Rockets general manager Daryl Morey and Philly counterpart Sam Hinkie, there's fresh talk in circulation about another potential co-conspirator. 目前最有可能做出這個交易的是七六人 還有另一個可能性是塞爾提克 The Boston Celtics. The advice offered to us on Sunday was stern: Keep an eye on Boston. The Celtics possess two players in different salary ranges that would presumably fit in useful ways next to Dwight Howard: Jeff Green and Brandon Bass. The Celts also have a spare first-round draft pick or two to plug into any trade equation to sweeten the deal for Houston, amid rising suspicions around the league that Morey’s Rockets are going to find a way to come out of the Asik saga with at least one future first. 由於Morey希望在這個交易中至少撈到一個未來的首輪簽 而老賽則剛好有一兩個可以換得首輪簽 拿Asik<--->J.Green(or B.Bass)+1~2個首輪籤是有可能發生的 The same Rockets who happen to have a GM (Morey) and coach (Kevin McHale) who have long-standing relationships with Celts president Danny Ainge. So, yes, I’d say you should keep an eye on Boston. Question here that must be asked loudly: Can Houston, in whichever Asik trade it ultimately chooses, really afford to take back a player possessing substantial long-term money like Green (two seasons at $18.4 million after this one) or Philly's Thaddeus Young (two seasons at $19.4 million after this one) when it knows it's going to have to give an extension bump to Chandler Parsons as soon as Parsons is eligible for the raise his play merits via extension? 然而現在還有另一個問題 就是在火箭吃下J.Green(後兩年共18.4M)或T.Young(後兩年共19.4M)的合約後 還有續簽Parson的空間和可能性嗎 Which is another way of saying you shouldn't be surprised if Young gets routed to a third team should the Rockets and Sixers officially join forces to construct an Asik deal, as some observers have been expecting all month. 所以傳出另一種交易可能就是找第三隊收下Young的合約 The latest signals out of Cleveland indicate that the Cavaliers like the thought of keeping Anderson Varejao better than the prospect of trading him for Asik. The Cavs haven't ruled themselves out of participating in the forthcoming Asik trade, sources say, but word is they'd prefer to join in as a third-team facilitator that helps Asik land in a different city. 前一陣子原本有傳出A.Varejao<-->O.Asik 但是現在騎士的態度是傾向不直接換Asik來 而是在三方交易中當第三隊收下Young或其他球員 ESPN.com reported Friday that the Rockets, for the record, would not be willing to do an Asik-for-Varejao trade straight up regardless. 簡單來說就是騎士不想收Asik但不排斥把Varejao丟掉 As stated Friday morning in our most recent Asik post, trying to gauge Atlanta's true willingness to part with the floor-stretching Paul Millsap -- whom Houston naturally covets in this situation -- is a major challenge thanks to ever-coy Hawks GM Danny Ferry. Yet more than one longtime Ferry-watcher is convinced that what he's trying do in Atlanta is amass a collection of Millsaps (translation: coveted trade pieces) so he has enough of them to jump right into the heart of the bidding when the next NBA superstar becomes available via trade like we saw in February 2011, when Carmelo Anthony and Deron Williams were traded on back-to-back days before the deadline. The Ferry-led Hawks are way too coy to be completely ruled out of contention for Asik. But it appears, heading into the final few days of the Asik sweepstakes, that Atlanta prefers to wait for a bigger prize ... even though acquiring an elite rim protector like Asik would allow Al Horford to move to his preferred position of power forward. It was Dec. 6 when ESPN.com reported that the Rockets began telling teams that they were determined to trade Asik between Dec. 15 and Dec. 19, which would ensure that any player involved in the transaction could be re-packaged by his new team in a subsequent trade before the league's Feb. 20 trade deadline passes. Some 10 days into this exercise, numerous teams involved and on the periphery of the talks have indicated that they indeed expect the Rockets to take this all the way to Thursday to give themselves as much time as possible to find the best deal. Jonathan Feigen, longtime Rockets beat writer from the Houston Chronicle, quoted a "person with knowledge of the Rockets' thinking" earlier Sunday saying that the Dec. 19 deadline was set in part because Morey indeed already has an offer he knows he's willing to take. The source told Feigen: "It very likely will be a pretty complicated, three-way deal. There are a lot of moving parts." 上面那幾段在講跟老鷹討論Millsap的交易的可能還有一些交易時間點的問題 Feigen also reported Sunday that Sixers center Spencer Hawes, with a far friendlier contract than Young's to use in a future move, as well as the ability to back up Howard at center if Houston keeps him, could well appeal to the Rockets more than Young does. 同時也有種可能是七六人會送出S.Hawes去火箭擔任DH的替補 ----------------------------------------------------------- 所以歸納一下 目前有可能的交易方式是 火箭 七六人 騎士 (老賽) 送出 Asik Young or Hawes 米粉頭 (Green or Bass+首輪籤) 收入 米粉頭+首輪籤 Asik Young (Hawes+首輪籤) (Green or Bass) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 59.115.16.237 ※ 編輯: evomichael 來自: 59.115.16.237 (12/16 13:22)

12/16 13:18, , 1F
老塞瘋了? 這季不想拼狀元 還要送首輪給人?
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12/16 13:19, , 2F
這些之前都出現過了吧…
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12/16 13:20, , 3F
老賽大概傻了吧...
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12/16 13:21, , 4F
東區第四 拼個屁狀元 就等rondo or lin歸位了
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對青賽有什麼好處??不懂
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幻想文喔Zzzzzz
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還在做夢喔 青賽GM奸得跟什麼一樣 給首輪?打2K比較快
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老賽出到小綠,還要加秀權?是傻了嗎?
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12/16 13:24, , 9F
繼續放消息呀,當別隊都是農場。你要首輪就給呀!
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沒交易Rondo組成中二三番刀可惜了.......
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asik我看連要換二輪都有點難 到處放話要人首輪...
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12/16 13:25, , 12F
Green, 在開玩笑嗎
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12/16 13:25, , 13F
Ainge會換 我跟我老婆姓
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12/16 13:25, , 14F
都給火箭爽就好
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直接讓火箭把8M丟水溝就好 想要阿西的明年自己簽
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HAWES蠻強的ㄟ 76人gm別亂換啊
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12/16 13:27, , 17F
火箭跟七六人交易Hawes是雙贏,....
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莫雷 安吉的對決
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全世界都知道火箭要交易
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搞不懂為什麼火箭可以搞得好像他在上風一樣
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沒想到大家這麼關心Asik,轉隊後關注度就降到底
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等補推回,按錯
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※ 編輯: evomichael 來自: 59.115.16.237 (12/16 13:29)

12/16 13:28, , 23F
開個GW給你換Asik啦,趕不敢吃爛約
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結果lin的交易先被完成 阿西完全是煙霧彈
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可憐的lin啊~英雄籃球似乎美國人比較愛
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12/16 13:31, , 26F
火箭送出Asik還拿到首輪 zzz
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12/16 13:32, , 27F
Asik有比Hawes強?XD
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看的我好亂 XD 阿西人生正式上映
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12/16 13:33, , 29F
剛噓原po補推,火箭到底哪裡認為他們佔上風呀?
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12/16 13:33, , 30F
G蛙+Bass+Bogans <--> Asik 青賽小虧^.<
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12/16 13:34, , 31F
不可能吧 Ainge怎麼可能被搶劫
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樓上那包就免了 莫雷是不可能處於下風狀態
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...我故意酸的= =
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補回第二次噓,等著看火箭休息室爆炸。
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全都火箭賺
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12/16 13:38, , 36F
Asik防守比Hawes好,等Asik+Noel的七六人雙塔還不賴耶
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Howard+Hawes還蠻搭的,Howard下去,Hawes+TJ也很好用
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七六人傻了才丟Hawes...
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還有 31 則推文
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超賽虧翻
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12/16 14:25, , 71F
可行不足 Green不可能交易
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Green不可能吧 等級也差太多 綠血人未來希望ㄟ
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火箭自嗨文又來嘍!各隊進貢,火箭快來挑哦
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真以為Ainge吃素的阿
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火箭的交易傳聞可比湖人 都想搶劫別人
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12/16 14:29, , 76F
不會到最後交易不出去吧 莫雷這次要被搶劫了
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火箭交易傳言不用去看,永遠都是別隊在進貢
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Asik有那麼強? 火箭只想搶劫別人 當別人白癡?
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哈哈老賽GM又不是白痴
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Asik是火箭的燙手山芋 其他29隊GM會不知道?
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青塞出Green幹嘛……
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莫雷現在只能讓ASIK浮出檯面給各隊競標 挑開價最好的
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看推文我以為Asik只是個想搶先發的弱弱中鋒
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跟Asik鬧翻就只有被搶的份了,現在還在妄想阿....
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阿西這麼好 火箭就自己留著 現在的火箭迷只會喊你不
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Asik不弱,但也沒好到要出Green跟首輪籤來換。
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懂我阿西的價值 幹 又不是亂改車的國中生
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Green單換都虧 還+首輪咧
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屆轉 被搶劫版
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st900278:轉錄至看板 Celtics 12/16 14:45

12/16 14:46, , 90F
Asik很強就留著自用啊 只想搶別隊好菜?
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安吉:他威脅我家人,我不得不.....
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這要是成功,我跟我老爸姓
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12/16 14:54, , 93F
鵜鶘可以用Eric Gordon換Asik 雙贏
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12/16 15:06, , 94F
某迷之前不是要搶劫RONDO嗎XDDD
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阿西是不爽不能先發啊 又不是打2K不用考慮球員心情
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所以大家都知道火箭留不住Asik了 還期待Morey搶劫?
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現在都當其他gm是低能就是,某迷頗呵
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箭迷要發夢就發大點啊 怎麼不繼續幻想AGG了
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火箭是癡心妄想嗎...
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這不是幻想就是青賽GM腦袋燒壞
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拿green單換都虧了說! 還要首輪!!
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換成功莫雷就神了
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這也太搶了八....
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噓莫雷只想強劫..
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12/16 20:13, , 105F
看到J.Green就笑了,有J.Green某第三巨頭就得替補了
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到時候有人又要喊吹密
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如果幻想成真的話也蠻有趣的
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青賽瘋了......
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