[專欄] 國王與溜馬的交易可能

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This Kings-Pacers trade features a Hield, Oladipo swap https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2020/11/29/this-kings-pacers-trade-features-a-hield-oladipo-swap 作者為「運動專欄作家」也就是(ry 他之前也po熱火交易玫瑰的乳摸 這不是什麼進行中的乳摸 ,就是作家提出的討論 剛剛看兩個溜馬迷在討論 所以翻看看 The Indiana Pacers and Sacramento Kings are two teams who are looking to take a step forward next season, but also have some potentially unhappy shooting guards. Victor Oladipo and Buddy Hield have both been mentioned in a ton of trade rumors this offseason. Perhaps a late-offseason move could find them new homes. 國王與溜馬是兩隻尋找讓下一季變的更好的隊伍。 他們都有一位需要處理的得分好手 DDDDDDDD與Oladipo Granted, the Pacers may opt to keep Oladipo to start the season. They have a new head coach in Nate Bjorkgren and may want to see what they have with their current roster. As for the Kings, they may want to keep Hield around with Bogdan Bogdanovic leaving town for the Atlanta Hawks in free agency. No matter what the teams decide to do, a swap of the two players could be an intriguing option as well. 溜馬可以選擇不動陣容,看看新教練的帶隊成績 國王則已經嚷BB8變成空氣,DDDDDDDD自然也獲得他想要的先發位置 不管他們怎麼做出改變,也許兩人互換會是一個好選擇 The Hypothetical Trade Kings Receive: Victor Oladipo and Myles Turner Pacers Receive: Buddy Hield, Richaun Holmes, Nemanja Bjelica, 2021 First-Round Pick via Sacramento, 2021 Second-Round Pick via Memphis 國王得到Oladipo與Turner 溜馬得到Heild、Holmes、Bejelica與21首輪+來自灰熊的次輪 This is a much bigger trade than a straight-up swap of Oladipo for Hield. Including Turner will open some eyes, but this deal makes a lot of sense. Turner was shopped hard by the Pacers in their pursuit of acquiring Gordon Hayward in a sign-and-trade with the Boston Celtics. Unfortunately, they could not get that deal done. Moving Turner seems much more likely following that kind of an awkward situation. 這比兩人直接互換合理的多, Turner在此前的交易新聞中處於風暴中心 ,真的交易他可以避免許多令人尷尬的場面 Being able to get Richaun Holmes and Nemanja Bjelica, along with a first-round pick from the Kings and a second-round pick from the Grizzlies would make this worthwhile for the Pacers to trade two of their key pieces. Let’s take a closer look at this trade for both teams and why they should pull the trigger on this deal if it was ever on the table. 如果能夠獲得Holmes與Bje 還有選秀權,失去兩位關鍵球員也許是值得的 接下來看看是否這交易讓雙方有交易的動機 Why This Trade Makes Sense For The Pacers Kevin Pritchard has been looking to shake a few things up this offseason. Going after Gordon Hayward showed that he is not content with how the Pacers’ roster is currently set up. However, with this trade, he would be re-making quite a bit of the roster. 此筆交易對溜馬是否合理? 溜馬總A在休賽季追求黑娃的舉動證明他對目前陣容不甚滿意。 此交易可以re-tools再出發,而非重建隊伍 Moving Turner makes sense with the emergence of Domantas Sabonis as an All-Star. Even though Turner is the heart and soul of the Indiana defense, he is expendable for the right price. Richaun Holmes and Nemanja Bjelica would help replace him and add depth to the front-court. 因為小沙的崛起,嘗試交易Turner看起來合乎邏輯,雖然他是溜馬防守的靈魂,但如果可以拿回偵探(Holmes)與Bej 將可以更好的幫助小沙與增加前場深度 As for Victor Oladipo, the Pacers cannot be expecting him to return to All-Star form. The ruptured quad he suffered is a very serious injury and Oladipo may never get back the explosion he once had. 因為Oladipo嚴重的傷病,溜馬可能沒辦法期望他回復全明星身手。 Buddy Hield would immediately come in as the starting shooting guard for the Pacers. He would add top-notch perimeter shooting and can create his own shot. Indiana would not lose a ton offensively by moving Oladipo for Hield. DDDDDDDD可以從得分後衛這個角色良好的幫助球隊補上失去Olad少的得分缺口 The inclusion of a 2021 first-round pick from the Kings makes this deal look very attractive for the Pacers. Pritchard has been wanting to acquire draft assets. This deal gives them an additional first-round pick and a second-round pick from the Grizzlies that could be a quality selection. While trading Oladipo and Turner would be tough to do and they are both fan favorites, this deal would be something that the Pacers would have to seriously consider. 首輪的加入會讓溜馬覺得真香,他們的主管一直希望累積未來資產 交易Oladipo與Turner是很難的決定,但也許他們該認真考慮了 Why This Trade Makes Sense For The Kings On the other side of the trade, the Kings have been looking for a way to push themselves into contention for quite some time. There would be no better way than to make this trade with the Pacers. Buddy Hield is a good piece and both Holmes and Bjelica can play solid roles, but having a chance to acquire talents like Victor Oladipo and Myles Turner is not an every year opportunity for a team like the Kings. 為什麼國王要做此交易? 雖然Hield是很好的球員,Holmes與Bje 也是很棒的綠葉先發 但像國王這種球隊(爛隊)獲得像Oladipo與Turner這種球員的機會可以說非常難得 Turner would come in and add elite defense to the paint for Sacramento. He can stretch the floor as well. During his time with the Pacers, Turner has been called soft, but he is not as soft as the perception in Indiana has made him out to be. As for Oladipo, the Kings would be getting a potential star-caliber player. It would be a bit of a risk, as no one knows quite what to expect from Oladipo moving forward, but it is worth the risk for Sacramento. They have not had a player with the talent and potential that Oladipo possesses in quite some time. Turner可以更好的鞏固油漆區的攻守兩端,也可以延伸出去拉開空間 雖然他被說很軟,但他可不是溜馬觀眾眼中的那種軟蛋 至於Oladipo雖然有傷病風險,但這是國王再次獲得明星球員的機會,他們現在沒有他那種潛力的球員 This move wouldn’t necessarily power the Kings into the playoffs. The Western Conference is still very difficult to succeed in. But, it would give them a fighting chance. Parting ways with a first-round pick might draw some hesitation, but at the end of the day, this trade is well worth the price for the Kings. 也許這些舉動不會讓國王重返榮耀,而且失去首輪讓人猶豫 但這筆交易對國王來說是可以考慮的 — 筆者認為,交易掉Turner拿回Holmes+Bje+大年首輪真的不錯 但國王有這麼盤嗎? 如果跟BB8的合約才有機會 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 111.83.74.48 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1606719443.A.283.html

11/30 15:04, 3年前 , 1F
配菜去掉其一 或許會比較合理
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11/30 15:04, 3年前 , 2F
溜馬小賺吧 Hield是氣氛問題又沒大傷
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11/30 15:04, 3年前 , 3F
但他合約激勵條款 如果是在溜馬進季後一樣要給吧
11/30 15:04, 3F

11/30 15:04, 3年前 , 4F
DDDDDDDD=8D=Buddy
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11/30 15:04, 3年前 , 5F
有人這樣說的嗎@@
11/30 15:04, 5F

11/30 15:05, 3年前 , 6F
其實以國王來說這交易蠻可以考量的 Oladipo或turner
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11/30 15:05, 3年前 , 7F
這種接近全明星的球員 一般去到自由市場不會考量去
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11/30 15:05, 3年前 , 8F
國王
11/30 15:05, 8F

11/30 15:06, 3年前 , 9F
當國王北七逆?
11/30 15:06, 9F

11/30 15:06, 3年前 , 10F
8D有創意
11/30 15:06, 10F

11/30 15:07, 3年前 , 11F
國王問題在Walton
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11/30 15:07, 3年前 , 12F
有21年首輪就不可能
11/30 15:07, 12F

11/30 15:07, 3年前 , 13F
21首輪很值錢的,就算樂透尾端的天份也很不錯
11/30 15:07, 13F

11/30 15:11, 3年前 , 14F
不給首輪溜馬哪可能出OLA+Turner
11/30 15:11, 14F

11/30 15:11, 3年前 , 15F
這樣換國王大虧正常情況是換不動 不過國王麻
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11/30 15:11, 3年前 , 16F
Oladipo身手搞不好回不來了 沒法當明星看了吧
11/30 15:11, 16F

11/30 15:12, 3年前 , 17F
國王腦子又不是壞了 換這兩隻就能進季後賽???
11/30 15:12, 17F

11/30 15:15, 3年前 , 18F
當國王白癡吧
11/30 15:15, 18F

11/30 15:17, 3年前 , 19F
國王不至於動21首輪,然後有FOX也不需要Oladipo,需
11/30 15:17, 19F

11/30 15:18, 3年前 , 20F
要另一個後衛今年選的就夠了,雖然Turner不錯,但不
11/30 15:18, 20F

11/30 15:18, 3年前 , 21F
值得用這麼多籌碼換他
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11/30 15:19, 3年前 , 22F
結論是雙輸 溜馬陣容不需要只能當自走砲的射手
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11/30 15:20, 3年前 , 23F
國王亂打戰績慘炒我疼抽狀元這劇本比較容易發生吧
11/30 15:20, 23F

11/30 15:22, 3年前 , 24F
選秀籤是很有吸引力 但有Turner和Oladipo大概只有
11/30 15:22, 24F

11/30 15:22, 3年前 , 25F
樂透末段吧
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11/30 15:24, 3年前 , 26F
D三小...兩個字可以解決 硬要8個
11/30 15:24, 26F

11/30 15:29, 3年前 , 27F
溜馬賺,隔年國王的人可能會變空氣
11/30 15:29, 27F

11/30 15:31, 3年前 , 28F
國王出首輪就虧爆了,回不去的Ola和想賣掉的Turner
11/30 15:31, 28F

11/30 15:32, 3年前 , 29F
這種包裹可不是能讓人拿出明年首輪的明星球員
11/30 15:32, 29F

11/30 15:33, 3年前 , 30F
不過畢竟這是溜馬迷的討論,會想拿國王隊的首輪合理
11/30 15:33, 30F

11/30 15:34, 3年前 , 31F
給LBJ都打不進季後賽的廢物再給他什麼菜還不是一樣
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11/30 15:34, 3年前 , 32F
。先清理垃圾會感覺家裡變得不一樣。但國王管理層廢
11/30 15:34, 32F

11/30 15:34, 3年前 , 33F
的程度不下Walton的執教
11/30 15:34, 33F

11/30 15:35, 3年前 , 34F
21首輪,國王虧爆
11/30 15:35, 34F

11/30 15:37, 3年前 , 35F
D
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11/30 15:38, 3年前 , 36F
不可能成立 沒有首輪溜馬不會換 出了國王不會換
11/30 15:38, 36F

11/30 15:39, 3年前 , 37F
國王迷都已經在關心21年選秀大物了你不要破壞我們的
11/30 15:39, 37F

11/30 15:39, 3年前 , 38F
美夢好嗎
11/30 15:39, 38F

11/30 15:43, 3年前 , 39F
可是國王高層真的是白痴
11/30 15:43, 39F

11/30 15:43, 3年前 , 40F
但國王迷總是被國王高層打臉 搞不好真的會換哦XDD
11/30 15:43, 40F

11/30 15:46, 3年前 , 41F
國王瘋了才會去用首輪交易XD
11/30 15:46, 41F

11/30 15:53, 3年前 , 42F
溜馬會換是傻的?
11/30 15:53, 42F

11/30 15:58, 3年前 , 43F
不是,你看近幾年國王哪裡個首輪交易了,不要跟我提
11/30 15:58, 43F

11/30 15:59, 3年前 , 44F
五,六年前的事喔,國王會換是傻?
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11/30 15:59, 3年前 , 45F
*拿哪個
11/30 15:59, 45F

11/30 15:59, 3年前 , 46F
這樣換的話國王小賺
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11/30 16:00, 3年前 , 47F
幻想文連討論的價值都沒有
11/30 16:00, 47F

11/30 16:00, 3年前 , 48F
可以啊 選秀加個前20順位保護
11/30 16:00, 48F

11/30 16:01, 3年前 , 49F
然後2~3年之後沒兌現就變二輪簽那種
11/30 16:01, 49F

11/30 16:03, 3年前 , 50F
又不是爭冠球隊搶拼圖, 怎麼會出21年首輪 XD
11/30 16:03, 50F

11/30 16:04, 3年前 , 51F
到底哪裡賺了,你要考慮Oladipo打不出來就是虧,打
11/30 16:04, 51F

11/30 16:04, 3年前 , 52F
出來國王也沒空間續約,那他作為主菜之一對國王價值
11/30 16:04, 52F

11/30 16:05, 3年前 , 53F
就沒那麼大,何況還要21首輪,沒動機作這交易阿
11/30 16:05, 53F

11/30 16:08, 3年前 , 54F
阿還有我覺得大家都忽略了Holmes的能力,他上賽季的
11/30 16:08, 54F

11/30 16:08, 3年前 , 55F
表現是很好的,500萬這表現很超值了,沒必要動他
11/30 16:08, 55F

11/30 16:14, 3年前 , 56F
難怪兩個溜馬迷都覺得雖不滿意但可以接受XDDD
11/30 16:14, 56F

11/30 16:15, 3年前 , 57F
記者自己的想法結果大家討論好認真@@
11/30 16:15, 57F

11/30 16:23, 3年前 , 58F
因為國王高層的腦袋很有洞,說不定拿MB3去換明年首
11/30 16:23, 58F

11/30 16:23, 3年前 , 59F
輪也是可能。然後被笑一輩子跳過77,不下阿拓。
11/30 16:23, 59F

11/30 16:32, 3年前 , 60F
最慘的 國王明明就看77看整季
11/30 16:32, 60F

11/30 16:37, 3年前 , 61F
國王跳過77很合理吧?陣中有Fox了 MB3天賦又高
11/30 16:37, 61F

11/30 16:40, 3年前 , 62F
mb3天賦沒有那麼高
11/30 16:40, 62F

11/30 16:41, 3年前 , 63F
MB3問題是玻璃 養個幾年還是高機率變全明星
11/30 16:41, 63F

11/30 16:41, 3年前 , 64F
你直接打Buddy 還比打DDDDDDDD快
11/30 16:41, 64F

11/30 16:45, 3年前 , 65F
身為溜馬迷,覺得這樣操作對溜馬只是為了交易而交易
11/30 16:45, 65F

11/30 17:06, 3年前 , 66F
以前都覺得國王沒這麼白癡 但現在真的覺得國王白癡
11/30 17:06, 66F

11/30 17:21, 3年前 , 67F
會有三方, 四方?
11/30 17:21, 67F

11/30 17:29, 3年前 , 68F
Buddy 就好了 還DDDDDDDD……
11/30 17:29, 68F

11/30 17:30, 3年前 , 69F
認真說,歐拉跟國王搭不起來,國王不如等到歐拉這球
11/30 17:30, 69F

11/30 17:30, 3年前 , 70F
季如果歐拉離隊,拿Buddy加籌碼換Turner比較實際。
11/30 17:30, 70F

11/30 17:30, 3年前 , 71F
溜馬之後還有Warran要換約呢
11/30 17:30, 71F

11/30 17:32, 3年前 , 72F
這筆歐拉去國王 是要跟Fox爭球權 還是做為另一位
11/30 17:32, 72F

11/30 17:32, 3年前 , 73F
持球點
11/30 17:32, 73F

11/30 17:33, 3年前 , 74F
假設國王拿到Turner 就要考慮MB3的去留了 ……
11/30 17:33, 74F

11/30 17:38, 3年前 , 75F
拿Sabonis來換啊
11/30 17:38, 75F

11/30 17:39, 3年前 , 76F
溜馬又不會拿小沙做籌碼…… 況且是陣中主力禁區
11/30 17:39, 76F

11/30 17:51, 3年前 , 77F
換手氣
11/30 17:51, 77F

11/30 17:59, 3年前 , 78F
真的把我王gm當韓國瑜啊
11/30 17:59, 78F

11/30 18:20, 3年前 , 79F
沒有21首輪就已經很賺了 真的把國王當塑膠喔
11/30 18:20, 79F

11/30 18:33, 3年前 , 80F
作者自己在作夢也叫交易可能?
11/30 18:33, 80F

11/30 18:35, 3年前 , 81F
21首輪 笑死
11/30 18:35, 81F

11/30 18:44, 3年前 , 82F
當國王是北七喔
11/30 18:44, 82F

11/30 18:54, 3年前 , 83F
西區陪打就行...
11/30 18:54, 83F

11/30 19:07, 3年前 , 84F
Ola號稱兩屆全明星 但感覺沒比8d強
11/30 19:07, 84F

11/30 19:11, 3年前 , 85F
就算國王高層很蠢 也不能當他們真蠢阿
11/30 19:11, 85F

11/30 19:17, 3年前 , 86F
新八奇領域
11/30 19:17, 86F

11/30 19:35, 3年前 , 87F
嘴DDDDDDDD的自己出來翻譯阿
11/30 19:35, 87F

11/30 19:42, 3年前 , 88F
21首輪不要想,這已經有點搶劫國王了吧
11/30 19:42, 88F

11/30 19:44, 3年前 , 89F
不能這樣說,明明BUDDY更簡單,為啥要特地打8個D
11/30 19:44, 89F

11/30 20:20, 3年前 , 90F
國王GM看起來是不太行辣,但應該還沒蠢到出選秀權
11/30 20:20, 90F

11/30 20:35, 3年前 , 91F
打8D就好了...XD
11/30 20:35, 91F

11/30 21:21, 3年前 , 92F
想搶劫我王 別鬧了 當然是坦下去抽狀元
11/30 21:21, 92F

11/30 21:24, 3年前 , 93F
因為8太遠(?
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11/30 21:25, 3年前 , 94F

11/30 23:40, 3年前 , 95F
D
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12/01 01:28, 3年前 , 96F
D
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12/01 03:11, 3年前 , 97F
8個D累嗎
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12/01 07:44, 3年前 , 98F
D了
12/01 07:44, 98F

12/01 09:00, 3年前 , 99F
這包裹裡未來最值錢的可能是那個首輪,明年是超大年
12/01 09:00, 99F
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