[外絮] 太陽老闆被指控(4)

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EARLY IN HIS tenure as owner, Sarver once tried to impress upon employees how big of a Suns fan he was and how excited he was to lead the organization. After all, he had been attending games since he was 8 years old. 在沙佛入主太陽的早期時代,他試圖像員工們宣揚他對太陽的熱愛,還有對領導整個太陽的熱情,隊畢竟他8歲開始就關注球賽 。 In one meeting, to drive home his point, Sarver passed around a picture of his wife in a Suns bikini, multiple former longtime employees told ESPN. 一次會議中,為了表示他(沙佛)的觀點,他向眾人傳閱他老婆的比基尼辣照。幾位長期任職於太陽的成員像ESPN透露 One former executive who was in the meeting said, "We're passing it around like a hot potato. Like, what in the hell are we supposed to do with this? That was just, you know, one early glimpse at the man." 一位參與其中的管理者說,我們視之為燙手山芋,並迅速的傳遞,或者說我們到底該怎麼做?你知道的,這只是冰山一角 Sarver responded through his legal team: "This is a perfect example of how things get twisted," he said. "In the first year of my ownership, a local apparel retailer had recently been awarded the license to sell official NBA branded swimwear. The retailer sent my wife and me a sample along with a brochure, and I took a picture of her in the sample. I took the brochure and picture of her and gave it to the people at the Suns in charge of overseeing merchandise with the message: 'Here's the catalog, this is what the swimsuit looks like, and if you have any interest in carrying this line in the team shop, then here's the number to call.'" 沙佛通過法律顧問回應,這件事情就是如何利用部分事實扭曲全像的真實展現。「這是我擁有球隊的第一年,當地一家泳裝場獲得生產NBA logo泳裝的資格,我收到了樣品與目錄。我的太太試穿並拍了張照。」 「我把照片與樣冊交給我們的商品部,並告訴他這就是實拍&資料·如果他們對這個產品有興趣可以打電話給他們」 (這邊還有額外的意思,大概是樣品被他老婆穿過,所以他只能提供照片而不是原味樣品。其實我真的不知道哪種比較變態) More than a dozen employees recalled Sarver making lewd comments in all-staff meetings, including discussing times when his wife would perform oral sex on him. Four former employees said that in several all-staff meetings Sarver claimed he needed to wear Magnum or extra-large condoms. Former employees said he asked players about their sex lives and the sexual prowess of their significant others. 十多位員工回憶,沙佛在全體員工會議發表他的太太替他口交了幾次;四位員工說沙佛曾跟他們說「world 很大,需要XL套子」也有人說,沙佛詢問了球員的性能力。 "Women have very little value," one female former staffer said she felt. 「女人的產值很低」一位女性說沙佛想表達 "Women are possessions. And I think we're nowhere close to where he thinks men are." 「女人只是一種所有物,她們想取代我們(男人)的位置還早的很」 Through his legal team, Sarver denied talking about his sex life with employees and said he had "absolutely not" talked about condoms. 通過法律顧問,沙佛否認與員工討論性生活、更沒有提過保險套。 Before the 2008-09 season, a pregnant Suns employee who was helping coordinate the 2009 NBA All-Star Game in Phoenix was told by Sarver that she wouldn't be able to continue in that role, two employees with knowledge of his remarks said. The two employees said Sarver explained that the woman would be breastfeeding and would need to be home with her newborn. 一位09年原負責在太陽舉辦的全明星賽事的懷孕女員工,在08-09賽前被沙佛告知,她將離開這個職位。沙佛告訴其他員工,她需要哺育並返家照顧新生兒。 "It was so out of line and so inappropriate," one of the employees familiar with the remark said. Some employees believed that such a move would have violated discrimination and employment laws, and the two employees said other members of Suns management quickly rebuked Sarver and told the female employee she would remain in her role. 「這已經越線了,而且非常不恰當」一位員工說 一些員工覺得這已經涉及歧視並違反雇用法。太陽的其他管理人員喝斥了沙佛,並讓那位女員工回到原崗位。 Sarver, through his legal team, denied ever saying such a thing: "In the context of potential accommodations, I told her, in no uncertain terms, that the Suns were 100% behind her, and that we were prepared to provide support for her, whatever that meant. I remember discussing potential temporary adjustments to her schedule and the best way to tackle the All-Star weekend with these considerations in mind. She worked during the All-Star game." 沙佛通過法律顧問否認了 在方便的情況下,我告訴那位員工,太陽隊將百分之百支持她,我們將提供支援,不管她需要什麼。我記得我們討論過她(生產)時程可能造成的臨時調度,以及這些問題可能對全明星賽造成的影響。而她也在全明星賽週完成了她的工作。 “If the commissioner comes in and investigates to see what the f--- is going on in Phoenix, [he] would be appalled." 如果NBA派專人來調查,他將會大吃一驚 One current Suns business operations employee In March 2011, Sarver berated that same female former employee over a tribute video to honor then-Suns executive Rick Welts, according to two employees with knowledge of the interaction. Sarver's issue was that he wasn't featured more prominently in the video and that, instead, it featured more of former Suns owner Jerry Colangelo, who hired Welts. At one point, the woman broke down in tears, to which Sarver said, "Why do all you women around here cry so much?" 據兩位了解真相的員工說 2011年,在一個致敬太陽前高管Rick Welts的影片中,沙佛斥責了一位前女員工 因為沙佛並不是影片的主角,而太陽的前老闆在影片一直出現。 一時之間,女員工淚流不止,而沙佛卻問其他人,你們周圍的女人也這麼愛哭嗎? Sarver, through his attorneys, said that the incident did not happen and that he doesn't "remember a single instance that an employee ever cried in front of me." As for the video, he said he "certainly would not have objected to including Mr. Colangelo in a tribute video." 沙佛透過律師說,這件事情不是真的,沒有女員工在我面前哭過。他也不會反對前老闆出現在影片中。 Soon after the incident, multiple female former Suns employees said Sarver asked some of them to have lunch with women who worked at a bank he oversaw as CEO. The perception among some female employees was that he believed some women with the Suns weren't as tough as the women who worked at the bank. 事情發生不久,沙佛要求太陽女性員工應該要與他擔任執行長的銀行內的女性員工一起吃午餐,他覺得銀行的女員工遠比她們堅強。 "So humiliating," one female former employee said she felt about the arranged lunch. 太令人困窘,一位女員工覺得被安排的午餐讓人不舒服。 Sarver, through his attorneys, said, "Networking relationships between the Suns and the bank have been encouraged for men and women. I think it's really productive for everyone when there's collaboration among stakeholders and the opportunity to share best practices with folks that you wouldn't necessarily talk to in the normal course of business." 沙佛認為,太陽隊與銀行之間應該要有更多連結。正常的情況你們不會互相交談,但我認為她們應該好好互相交流並學習。這是一個最好的實踐機會。 A female former marketing employee said Sarver would frequently use language such as, "Do I own you? Are you one of mine?" "He makes you feel like you belong to him," the employee said. 一位女性員工說,沙佛一直用「你屬於我嗎?」 「你是擁有妳嗎?」等言語 「他想讓妳覺得妳是他的所有物」 Several employees recalled separate instances in which Sarver referred to staffers and players as "inventory." Sarver, through his legal team, denied using such language. Said one former executive, "[His mentality is], 'If you don't like it, there's the door, you can get the f--- out of here." 在一些其他員工的回憶中,還有一些例子。 其中一個例子是沙佛將員工與球員視為庫存 。 沙佛否認了這個用語 一位高管說,他的態度就是「如果你不喜歡,腳在你腿上,你可以他X的離開這裡」 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 223.141.195.35 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1636965324.A.709.html

11/15 16:41, 3年前 , 1F
沙佛一直透過法律顧問回應 也是很聰明
11/15 16:41, 1F

11/15 16:44, 3年前 , 2F
其實就是ESPN先給他文件,然後沙佛透過法務逐條回覆
11/15 16:44, 2F

11/15 16:47, 3年前 , 3F
這才算真的有料,但要幹掉殺佛順序反了,應該先爆
11/15 16:47, 3F

11/15 16:47, 3年前 , 4F
這個就好,其他由小道消息傳出,這樣才能真的讓他
11/15 16:47, 4F

11/15 16:47, 3年前 , 5F
無法解釋,那裡有先放根本是笑話的指控再放猛料,
11/15 16:47, 5F

11/15 16:47, 3年前 , 6F
真實性打五折,重點是根本沒有證據,end
11/15 16:47, 6F

11/15 16:49, 3年前 , 7F
所以前面屈臣氏是來鬧的?
11/15 16:49, 7F

11/15 16:50, 3年前 , 8F
事實上我遇過朋友拿他拍的女友裸照要給我看,我根
11/15 16:50, 8F

11/15 16:50, 3年前 , 9F
本不敢看,她女朋友很漂亮但認識的人超尷尬,到底
11/15 16:50, 9F

11/15 16:50, 3年前 , 10F
要我做啥反應?看迷片比較輕鬆
11/15 16:50, 10F

11/15 16:50, 3年前 , 11F
這個還比較算是打政治正確,叫屈臣氏先發真的是浪費
11/15 16:50, 11F

11/15 16:50, 3年前 , 12F
時間…
11/15 16:50, 12F

11/15 16:52, 3年前 , 13F
這個還比較像是有問題
11/15 16:52, 13F

11/15 16:52, 3年前 , 14F
其他指控我現實上真的遇到有老闆這樣幹,但是把前
11/15 16:52, 14F

11/15 16:52, 3年前 , 15F
老闆的事跡拿到現在老闆前放也蠻白目的,重點是有
11/15 16:52, 15F

11/15 16:52, 3年前 , 16F
證據嗎?有才能幹掉殺佛
11/15 16:52, 16F

11/15 16:53, 3年前 , 17F
覺得不假 因為細節滿具體 但感覺不是很有殺傷力
11/15 16:53, 17F

11/15 16:54, 3年前 , 18F
我是覺得有點矛盾一方面說他是暴君但屬下也都很敢嗆
11/15 16:54, 18F

11/15 16:54, 3年前 , 19F
事實上屈臣氏是殺佛恩人,果然錢沒白給,完全轉移
11/15 16:54, 19F

11/15 16:54, 3年前 , 20F
焦點,殺佛只要接受前面就好
11/15 16:54, 20F

11/15 16:55, 3年前 , 21F
嗆完沙佛還會乖乖聽話改正 這形象真夠怪
11/15 16:55, 21F

11/15 16:55, 3年前 , 22F
這感覺真實性不低 但嚴重性好像也不到一刀斃命
11/15 16:55, 22F

11/15 16:56, 3年前 , 23F
這種事情很像真的但是沒證據就是屁,我前老闆這種
11/15 16:56, 23F

11/15 16:56, 3年前 , 24F
事沒少幹,難道我指控他他就會認?
11/15 16:56, 24F

11/15 16:57, 3年前 , 25F
沒有什麼大把柄只是真的是盪森老闆...而且錢應該都
11/15 16:57, 25F

11/15 16:57, 3年前 , 26F
花在法務上面XD
11/15 16:57, 26F

11/15 16:58, 3年前 , 27F
好爛的指控 難得有一件事讓人想支持大老闆
11/15 16:58, 27F

11/15 16:59, 3年前 , 28F
看起來比較像北爛又小氣 還有一堆艘主意…
11/15 16:59, 28F

11/15 17:00, 3年前 , 29F
尤其前面真的解僱女員工才能真的拿來指控,他都收
11/15 17:00, 29F

11/15 17:00, 3年前 , 30F
回成命了你要控告他啥?部門間互相交流也是常態,
11/15 17:00, 30F

11/15 17:00, 3年前 , 31F
尤其是女性對女性,你要是女性對男性傷害才大,我
11/15 17:00, 31F

11/15 17:00, 3年前 , 32F
被老闆罵多學學A難道也是歧視?能力被懷疑而已
11/15 17:00, 32F

11/15 17:01, 3年前 , 33F
而且他被嗆還會收回命比很多老闆好了
11/15 17:01, 33F

11/15 17:02, 3年前 , 34F
白爛餿主意小氣不早就知道的?
11/15 17:02, 34F

11/15 17:07, 3年前 , 35F
太陽隊的補強大概要失敗告終了
11/15 17:07, 35F

11/15 17:07, 3年前 , 36F
終於稍微有些料了,但目前看起來沒足夠證據
11/15 17:07, 36F

11/15 17:09, 3年前 , 37F
大家期待的可以下台應該是沒戲
11/15 17:09, 37F

11/15 17:10, 3年前 , 38F
目前看來還沒踩到天條阿
11/15 17:10, 38F

11/15 17:13, 3年前 , 39F
10幾年前的事現在才拿來爆 實在沒什麼力道
11/15 17:13, 39F

11/15 17:16, 3年前 , 40F
唯一一個可以殺殺佛的被避掉了,就是解僱懷孕女員
11/15 17:16, 40F

11/15 17:16, 3年前 , 41F
11/15 17:16, 41F

11/15 17:18, 3年前 , 42F
殺佛全交給律師回 很聰明
11/15 17:18, 42F

11/15 17:29, 3年前 , 43F
也沒什麼先發,這就同一篇超長文
11/15 17:29, 43F

11/15 17:32, 3年前 , 44F
我知道是超長文,但你前面就浪費一堆篇幅在屈臣氏這
11/15 17:32, 44F

11/15 17:32, 3年前 , 45F
邊,後面的殺傷力全數會減半啊. _A_||
11/15 17:32, 45F

11/15 17:33, 3年前 , 46F
面對屈臣氏這種對手,殺佛看起來就像黃金佛殺,然後這
11/15 17:33, 46F

11/15 17:33, 3年前 , 47F
邊看起來頂多從黃金佛殺變成原來的佛殺最終型態.
11/15 17:33, 47F

11/15 17:34, 3年前 , 48F
搞不好超長文下來直接變成連變身都不用的佛殺一指幹
11/15 17:34, 48F

11/15 17:34, 3年前 , 49F
掉巴達克+貝基塔行星.
11/15 17:34, 49F

11/15 17:45, 3年前 , 50F
就一個一個反駁而已
11/15 17:45, 50F

11/15 17:45, 3年前 , 51F
而且正常人都挑對自己有利先回應
11/15 17:45, 51F

11/15 17:51, 3年前 , 52F
整篇就沒證據;而且真的,前面那些硬要跟種族歧視
11/15 17:51, 52F

11/15 17:51, 3年前 , 53F
扯上關係的發言只會讓後面這段像是硬掰的一樣,誒
11/15 17:51, 53F

11/15 17:51, 3年前 , 54F
要幹掉殺佛你也認真點
11/15 17:51, 54F

11/15 18:05, 3年前 , 55F
我老闆也愛搞午餐會....
11/15 18:05, 55F

11/15 18:11, 3年前 , 56F
看起來就是一個不好的老闆,但是要一刀斃命?科科
11/15 18:11, 56F

11/15 18:22, 3年前 , 57F
看完只會對偽女權偽黑人權,自助餐SJW更討厭了
11/15 18:22, 57F

11/15 18:26, 3年前 , 58F
開黃腔的有影片啦,但是很難嚴重到會讓人下台
11/15 18:26, 58F

11/15 18:42, 3年前 , 59F
他老婆說不定就喜歡他這樣 只是員工根本不想知道他
11/15 18:42, 59F

11/15 18:42, 3年前 , 60F
們怎麼打砲
11/15 18:42, 60F

11/15 18:51, 3年前 , 61F
我看成大腸老闆
11/15 18:51, 61F

11/15 19:10, 3年前 , 62F
不要放那個黑覺教練的指控說不定還有機會
11/15 19:10, 62F

11/15 19:42, 3年前 , 63F
沙佛:我的戰鬥力是53萬
11/15 19:42, 63F

11/15 20:27, 3年前 , 64F
跟上篇比這篇比較有料,但覺得離一槍斃命很遠耶,
11/15 20:27, 64F

11/15 20:27, 3年前 , 65F
重點是沒關鍵證據
11/15 20:27, 65F

11/15 20:45, 3年前 , 66F
黑人女權聯合出手欸,哈哈哈
11/15 20:45, 66F

11/15 21:42, 3年前 , 67F
猶太人果然不是吃素的
11/15 21:42, 67F

11/15 22:00, 3年前 , 68F
自曝性事很爽嗎? 難以理解... = =
11/15 22:00, 68F

11/15 22:59, 3年前 , 69F
覺得太蝦了
11/15 22:59, 69F

11/16 00:59, 3年前 , 70F
這翻譯是…??
11/16 00:59, 70F

11/16 08:10, 3年前 , 71F
這篇比較有料一點 不過... 嗯= =
11/16 08:10, 71F
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