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[專欄] 活塞的新4號位- Stewart?

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https://www.detroitbadboys.com/platform/amp/2022/7/12/23204635/detroit-pistons-isaiah-stewart-starting-lineup-projection-power-forward https://reurl.cc/g2KNDb Who’s the 4? Isaiah Stewart’s new shooting touch could transform him from undersized starting center to oversized starting power forward 誰是大前？ Stewart的投籃手感可以讓他從矮中鋒變大號大前鋒 The moment Jerami Grant was traded, the big question became, “Who is going to take his place in the starting lineup?” The answer wasn’t found in free agency, with the Detroit Pistons adding center Nerlens Noel, shooting guard Alec Burks and long-shot reclamation project Kevin Knox. Nor was it found in the draft where the Pistons took off guard Jaden Ivey and big man Jalen Duren. As it stands, the Pistons have zero prototypical power forwards on their roster. As we search for answers, Detroit Bad Boys will be examining five candidates on their potential as the starting 4. Unless a trade is made, it’s gotta be one of these guys, right? 當Grant被交易之後，我想的就是誰可以接手他留下的先發位置，而FA看起來找不到。 活塞在季中補了中鋒Noel SG Burks 還有延伸型投射球員Knox ,而選秀也找不到（大前鋒），但帶回來了後衛Ivey跟大個Jalen Duren. 目前球員名單上並沒有典型的4號，當我們尋找答案的時候，勢必尋求交易，除非從內部找出解答。 Before we take a look at the film to see what Detroit Pistons big man Isaiah Stewart actually showed on the court through two Summer League games in Las Vegas, I first want to give my thoughts on the idea behind him expanding his game to play the “4.” For me, fans’ thoughts and opinions on this remind me a little bit of the conversation around Saddiq Bey working on his all-around offensive game last offseason and in Summer League. There were some opinions out there that he shouldn’t be working on his off-the-dribble and isolation games and instead should focus on mastering his 3-and-D role. While I understand this opinion and respect everyone’s, I personally disagreed. （原文有影片） 上季關於Bey的一些談論，有些意見希望他應該放棄過多的單打或參與進攻，而專注於成為一位3D球員。我理解這種想法，即使我不甚同意。 The advantage of where this Detroit Pistons organization currently stands is you are able to allow your young players to spend offseasons, Summer Leagues, and even time in-season working on weaknesses because you simply aren’t that worried about wins and losses right now. If they were a legit playoff contender they would not have had the ability and patience to let Bey work through those early-season struggles and eventually regain his “form” throughout the middle and end of the season. Whether it worked or not is another story but it’s about taking those opportunities to try and maximize the abilities of each of your players. 目前活塞有年齡優勢，你可以讓球員在夏聯、休季期間甚至賽季中解決問題，而不需在意輸贏。如果他們是季後賽的競爭者，他可能沒辦法讓Bey有太多時間調整季初的掙扎。 With that said, I absolutely think that Stewart should be doing everything he can to expand his offensive game beyond what we have seen the first two seasons. The Pistons will yet again be in a situation this season where the wins and losses are not the most important criteria for success. The first two offseasons of his young career have been less than “normal” with the Covid pandemic his rookie year and the ankle injury keeping him out of offseason work most recently. Stewart is finally getting a summer to work on really becoming a legitimate 3-point shooter and play that stretch big role to go along with what he brings on the defensive end. 話雖如此，但我想Stewart需要展現他在進攻上的表現，至少該超越前兩季。 他作為新人的前2季並不是一個正常的情況，受限於新冠與傷勢，他並沒辦法完整的磨練自己，還好今年他終於有完整的一個夏天可以磨練自己的三分投射，並同時發揮他防守大鎖的實力。 When you look at the current roster construction for the Pistons, you see why this would be a major development for Stewart. This would allow Dwane Casey to play him with more paint and pick-and-roll bigs in the rotation like Marvin Bagley III, Jalen Duren, and Nerlens Noel. Stewart is not as good as any of those guys as a vertical threat at the rim in ballscreen situations or in the dunker spot, but if he is able to be a respectable 3-point shooter you can use him to space the floor while those guys operate in the pick and roll with Cade, Killian, and company. 如果你了解活塞目前的球員名單，就知道這可以使Casey在油漆區調度上更加自由。不同於MBIII , Duren還有Noel,Stewart並不擅長在籃下垂直起跳後暴力進攻籃框，如果他的投射可以成為有效武器，他可以跟Cade還有Killian打擋拆 This also gives you a really intriguing pair of bigs on the defensive end when he is on the floor with Duren or Noel. Stewart can be your ball screen switch big which would leave Duren/Noel roaming on the back line of the defense to provide rim protection. It also gives you a ton of flexibility in general when putting your lineups together depending on your opponent that night. If a team goes big, like the T’Wolves, then you have Stew playing the 4 with one of the aforementioned 5s. If a team wants to go small then you can play Livers or Bey at the 4 and have Stew, or any of MBIII/Duren/Noel, playing at the 5. 如果Stewart跟Duren或Noel同時在場，除了扎實的防守之外也可以提供高品質的撲前防守，讓Duren或Noel堅守籃下 。這讓球隊有更好的靈活性。需要大陣容的時候可以讓他打4號位，像是灰狼。而其他情況需要小球的時候也可以讓他或MBIII Duren Noel打5號，將Bey拉上來打4號 Again, I am not really worried about all of that right now, although being able to get some of the young bigs minutes at the same time for their development along with keeping floor spacing for the guard development is important. But you can use this off-season and season to develop Stewart at the 4 for those situations down the road when this team is in a playoff series against their Central Division counterpart Cleveland Cavaliers throwing out a frontcourt of Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen. 雖然同時培養過多的大個子並不容易，但這不影響你讓他們在休賽季練習新技術，而活塞的主要對手- 同區的騎士，他們的前場可是Mobley與Allen All of this is why I was somewhat disappointed in Killian Hayes one summer league game. We saw Hayes do, simply, what Hayes does best, and I wanted to see him get the opportunity to consistently attack to score with the ball in his hands OR even play off the ball but shoot 10 3-pointers a game. Either one of those would, seemingly, put him outside of his comfort zone and force him to work on things he hasn’t shown to be great at. And make no mistake, it is okay to put these young players out of their comfort zones, ESPECIALLY in the off-season and summer league. 這些也是我對Hayes在夏聯失望的原因，因為他還是繼續打他擅長的，雖然他做的不錯，但我想看的到是持球進攻，或嘗試在無球的情況投10顆三分球。看起來這些都超出了他的舒適區，但毫無疑問的，你就應該逼這些年輕球員離開他的舒適區，尤其是休賽季或夏聯。 Isaiah Stewart needs to be taking 3, 4, 5 catch-and-shoot 3-pointers a game to start the season. Beef Stew needs to be operating in DHOs, throwing backdoors, attacking closeouts, and all-around seeing what else he can bring to the table offensively. If it is an absolute disaster through the first half of the season and you see he is losing overall confidence in his game, then you dial it back to the things he does best and regroup for next off season. Until then, I want to continue to see this organization push these young players out of their comfort zones and preconceived bounds to help them reach their max potential as players and for the overall benefit of the team. Stewart必須出手 3-4-5次CS三分 再開季的時候，他需要更多DHO(空手跑位or 手遞手跑位），也許在季賽開始，這樣會是一場災難，但他需要全方面的開發進攻潛力。如果他失去了信心，沒關係，讓他做回擅長的事情，並在休賽季重新來過。我們希望這些球員離開舒適區，並看看他們的天賦極限。以幫助他們開發潛力並幫助整個球隊 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.137.61.200 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1657765849.A.690.html
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07/14 10:32, 3年前 , 1F
跟lbj衝突那個
07/14 10:32, 1F
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07/14 10:32, 3年前 , 2F
衝撞皇上的男人
07/14 10:32, 2F
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07/14 10:32, 3年前 , 3F
走位練好應該不錯
07/14 10:32, 3F
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07/14 10:33, 3年前 , 4F
Stewart 不知道球商能不能做好這些... 不然只是想像
07/14 10:33, 4F
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07/14 10:34, 3年前 , 5F
牛肉的三分我覺得有一定水準了 但觀念還是沒救起來
07/14 10:34, 5F
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07/14 10:34, 3年前 , 6F
目前的牛肉打擋拆或無球跑位那是一個悲劇
07/14 10:34, 6F
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07/14 10:34, 3年前 , 7F
被Sky嫌到爆的那個
07/14 10:34, 7F
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07/14 10:35, 3年前 , 8F
牛肉上季三分出手少 但命中率也不錯 夏聯更明顯了
07/14 10:35, 8F
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07/14 10:35, 3年前 , 9F
感覺還是會讓MB3吧 新合約都簽下來了
07/14 10:35, 9F
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07/14 10:35, 3年前 , 10F
Stewart防守大鎖？守住自己人？
07/14 10:35, 10F
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07/14 10:35, 3年前 , 11F
今年補一堆大個子 他沒辦法進化 大概就掰了
07/14 10:35, 11F
噓
07/14 10:36, 3年前 , 12F
暴力仔
07/14 10:36, 12F
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07/14 10:36, 3年前 , 13F
要是樣本數拉高還能維持這樣的命中率的話 有希望成
07/14 10:36, 13F
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07/14 10:36, 3年前 , 14F
為破產版KAT
07/14 10:36, 14F
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07/14 10:37, 3年前 , 15F
沒有補一堆大個子阿 加duren跟noel 丟garza 多一個
07/14 10:37, 15F
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07/14 10:37, 3年前 , 16F
Noel明年約滿八成也會直接放掉 甚至季中就賣了
07/14 10:37, 16F
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07/14 10:37, 3年前 , 17F
覺得三分可能練得起來啦，但問題他的球商，要磨到文
07/14 10:37, 17F
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07/14 10:38, 3年前 , 18F
LBJ陰招的受害者
07/14 10:38, 18F
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07/14 10:38, 3年前 , 19F
章內空手跑位和做擋拆，現在看覺得比練好三分遙遠。
07/14 10:38, 19F
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07/14 10:41, 3年前 , 20F
Cade負重器
07/14 10:41, 20F
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07/14 10:41, 3年前 , 21F
羌族重點追殺名單
07/14 10:41, 21F
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07/14 10:44, 3年前 , 22F
這隻真的有種大前鋒版瘋狗貝的感覺
07/14 10:44, 22F
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07/14 10:44, 3年前 , 23F
這隻不是走位出了名的雷？
07/14 10:44, 23F
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07/14 10:44, 3年前 , 24F
害CC少了超多助攻的男人
07/14 10:44, 24F
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07/14 10:47, 3年前 , 25F
好啊 不要卡在籃下的打法
07/14 10:47, 25F
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07/14 10:47, 3年前 , 26F
猛男衝鋒
07/14 10:47, 26F
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07/14 10:48, 3年前 , 27F
練三分之前 擋拆 無球 都要先練起來 跑位超災難的
07/14 10:48, 27F
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07/14 10:49, 3年前 , 28F
一堆嘴他很雷 可是防守籃板這些藍領技能他很罩欸
07/14 10:49, 28F
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07/14 10:50, 3年前 , 29F
MB3問題應該比他還多
07/14 10:50, 29F
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07/14 10:52, 3年前 , 30F
對喔 牛肉的籃板/分鐘是聯盟前20的等級
07/14 10:52, 30F
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07/14 10:52, 3年前 , 31F
身材很壯讓他的禁區強度非常高
07/14 10:52, 31F
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07/14 10:52, 3年前 , 32F
不過MB3籃板也沒那麼差啦 防守有比較差一點
07/14 10:52, 32F
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07/14 10:54, 3年前 , 33F
他打四號防守會被敵人拉出去玩死吧
07/14 10:54, 33F
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07/14 10:55, 3年前 , 34F
原文就有說打大陣容才讓他扛4了==
07/14 10:55, 34F
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07/14 10:56, 3年前 , 35F
還好吧 他的橫移不差啊
07/14 10:56, 35F
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07/14 10:56, 3年前 , 36F
沒差吧，活塞現階段死馬當活馬醫，他也不可能是未
07/14 10:56, 36F
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07/14 10:56, 3年前 , 37F
來真正的4號解
07/14 10:56, 37F
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07/14 10:56, 3年前 , 38F
小球放他5 bey4 diallo3 ivey跟CC後場也可以
07/14 10:56, 38F
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07/14 10:59, 3年前 , 39F
他就傳統矮壯坦克，體能又平均而已，傳統禁區技能
07/14 10:59, 39F
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07/14 10:59, 3年前 , 40F
也沒點滿，才快失去位置
07/14 10:59, 40F
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07/14 10:59, 3年前 , 41F
新一代反詹大將軍？
07/14 10:59, 41F
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07/14 11:00, 3年前 , 42F
主要是MB3的問題比他複雜啦 Stewart也許真的讓他投
07/14 11:00, 42F
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07/14 11:00, 3年前 , 43F
三分減少參與進攻就可以解決很多問題 但對他個人球
07/14 11:00, 43F
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07/14 11:00, 3年前 , 44F
員發展不是好事就是了
07/14 11:00, 44F
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07/14 11:01, 3年前 , 45F
Stewart 做好藍領該做的就好了，活賽搶投的人一堆
07/14 11:01, 45F
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07/14 11:02, 3年前 , 46F
沒吧 活塞上一季問題是貧攻啊XDD
07/14 11:02, 46F
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07/14 11:02, 3年前 , 47F
搶頭（O 投不進（O
07/14 11:02, 47F
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07/14 11:02, 3年前 , 48F
怎麼會有人覺得活塞不需要人投籃
07/14 11:02, 48F
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07/14 11:03, 3年前 , 49F
現在新秀長人能跑能跳的一堆，傳統矮壯體能普普的
07/14 11:03, 49F
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07/14 11:03, 3年前 , 50F
沒一手特殊技能很容易淘汰
07/14 11:03, 50F
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07/14 11:03, 3年前 , 51F
其實就是把吃餅讓出去 掩護後蹲底角
07/14 11:03, 51F
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07/14 11:03, 3年前 , 52F
看完活塞本季陣容 今年大有可為
07/14 11:03, 52F
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07/14 11:04, 3年前 , 53F
活塞的攻擊力加入ivey跟duren應該會改善 而且Burks
07/14 11:04, 53F
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07/14 11:04, 3年前 , 54F
也是優秀的戰力
07/14 11:04, 54F
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07/14 11:04, 3年前 , 55F
牛肉有在練三分喔！之前還有影片，練習時頗準
07/14 11:04, 55F
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07/14 11:04, 3年前 , 56F
Stewart這種藍領工願意領600-1000萬也能在聯盟活很
07/14 11:04, 56F
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07/14 11:04, 3年前 , 57F
久就是 當然啦 他機體本來就不是先發等級就是
07/14 11:04, 57F
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07/14 11:05, 3年前 , 58F
牛肉防守還算能跟出去到三分線外，凱西也有稱讚過
07/14 11:05, 58F
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07/14 11:06, 3年前 , 59F
牛肉不太可能被淘汰 他除了球商以外都很優秀其實
07/14 11:06, 59F
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07/14 11:06, 3年前 , 60F
他橫移我記得就禁區球員以上 側翼以下
07/14 11:06, 60F
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07/14 11:06, 3年前 , 61F
他如果能練出轉打4號能力，上場時間才能確保
07/14 11:06, 61F
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07/14 11:07, 3年前 , 62F
三分練出來應該會比在內線亂走好很多
07/14 11:07, 62F
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07/14 11:13, 3年前 , 63F
Ivey需要禁區空間吧
07/14 11:13, 63F
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07/14 11:18, 3年前 , 64F
其實肯練的球員都給予肯定，反觀……
07/14 11:18, 64F
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07/14 11:19, 3年前 , 65F
我絕對不是在說籃網那位 真的
07/14 11:19, 65F
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07/14 11:20, 3年前 , 66F
他的問題是觀念吧 走位好像真的不好
07/14 11:20, 66F
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07/14 11:21, 3年前 , 67F
勇者
07/14 11:21, 67F
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07/14 11:22, 3年前 , 68F
Steward算蠻耐戰的，球隊還是需要有人卡做髒活
07/14 11:22, 68F
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07/14 11:22, 3年前 , 69F
三分投那麼少 先增加吧?
07/14 11:22, 69F
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07/14 11:30, 3年前 , 70F
這篇我看不懂...
07/14 11:30, 70F
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07/14 11:32, 3年前 , 71F
現在NBA 哪還有典型四號這種位置？
07/14 11:32, 71F
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07/14 11:33, 3年前 , 72F
有缺內線，有缺側翼，有缺控球這都能理解 但缺4號位
07/14 11:33, 72F
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07/14 11:33, 3年前 , 73F
是什麼鬼
07/14 11:33, 73F
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07/14 11:42, 3年前 , 74F
代表作不是被老詹扁嗎
07/14 11:42, 74F
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07/14 11:48, 3年前 , 75F
他能練成外線好處很多 多一些時間站在三分線外可以
07/14 11:48, 75F
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07/14 11:48, 3年前 , 76F
減少卡住隊友進攻路線的機率 也能幫CC Ivey拉開空間
07/14 11:48, 76F
噓
07/14 12:08, 3年前 , 77F
這球商練完外線一樣不會走位啦
07/14 12:08, 77F
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07/14 12:28, 3年前 , 78F
2k用他打大前 等於C還要再放一個長人 整體進攻速度
07/14 12:28, 78F
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07/14 12:28, 3年前 , 79F
變超慢
07/14 12:28, 79F
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07/14 13:08, 3年前 , 80F
他站位很悲劇
07/14 13:08, 80F
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07/14 13:08, 3年前 , 81F
幫CC QQ
07/14 13:08, 81F
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07/14 13:22, 3年前 , 82F
用臉接羌皇霸王肘的男人
07/14 13:22, 82F
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07/14 13:34, 3年前 , 83F
不要動就不會有走位問題了(X)
07/14 13:34, 83F
噓
07/14 14:14, 3年前 , 84F
有人真的在乎活賽的陣容嗎...
07/14 14:14, 84F
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07/14 14:25, 3年前 , 85F
樓上的素質還是回去看台籃吧
07/14 14:25, 85F
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07/14 15:24, 3年前 , 86F
拿下去年狀元，今年又有樂透簽+潛力新秀，很多人都
07/14 15:24, 86F
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07/14 15:24, 3年前 , 87F
在期待活塞新陣容吧
07/14 15:24, 87F
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07/14 16:19, 3年前 , 88F
6’8算哪門子的大號大前鋒
07/14 16:19, 88F
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07/14 16:33, 3年前 , 89F
他的問題不是傳統技能啊 是球商真的有夠差 看他順下
07/14 16:33, 89F
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07/14 16:33, 3年前 , 90F
的走位會看到中風
07/14 16:33, 90F
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07/14 17:24, 3年前 , 91F
不在乎幹嘛進來留言討論 時間太多嗎
07/14 17:24, 91F
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07/14 17:26, 3年前 , 92F
什麼樣的素質就講什麼樣的話
07/14 17:26, 92F
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07/14 18:19, 3年前 , 93F
今年真的能幹大事
07/14 18:19, 93F
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07/14 18:44, 3年前 , 94F
去年打很爛
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07/14 23:20, 3年前 , 95F
MB3才是先發四號，這作者根本是傻
07/14 23:20, 95F
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07/14 23:20, 3年前 , 96F
英文沒比較屌
07/14 23:20, 96F
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