[外絮] 籃網GM:我們不會用「坦」這個字眼

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https://reurl.cc/eGvqWj The Nets are supposed to be tanking for Cooper Flagg (or Ace Bailey) but they ’re not buying it: ‘We don’t use that word’ 籃網被認為應該為了Cooper Flagg或Ace Bailey開坦,但他們並不買帳:「我們不用 那個詞」 NEW YORK -- Don’t tell the Brooklyn Nets they’re supposed to be tanking for Duke’s Cooper Flagg or Rutgers stars Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper. “We don’t use some of those words [like ‘tanking’], so it’s go compete, go compete and let the chips fall where they may,” Nets GM Sean Marks told NJ.com in an exclusive interview before the Nets lost to the Knicks, 124-122, in an NBA Cup game Friday night at Madison Square Garden. The Nets trailed by 21 points in the third quarter but took the lead in the final seconds before Jalen Brunson hit a game-winning 3-pointer. When Brooklyn dealt Mikal Bridges to the rival Knicks in a blockbuster summer trade that brought back four first-round picks, including one in next summer’ s star-driven NBA Draft, it was widely understood that the Nets were trying to “Wave the White Flagg for Cooper Flagg.” Entering the 2024-25 NBA season, the Nets were No. 1 on Tankathon.com in terms of odds to land the No. 1 pick, which could be Flagg, the uber-talented 6-foot-9 Duke freshman, but also could be the 6-10 Bailey, who scored 17 points, including a highlight-reel dunk, in his Rutgers debut Friday night. 紐約——別告訴布魯克林籃網他們應該為了杜克大學的Cooper Flagg 或羅格斯大學的明 星 Ace Bailey 和 Dylan Harper開坦。 「我們不使用一些詞語(像是『坦』),所以我們是去競爭、去努力,然後隨機應變。」 籃網GM Sean Marks在麥迪遜花園廣場的NBA杯比賽中,籃網以124比122輸給尼克之前,接 受NJ.com的專訪時這樣說道。籃網在第三節一度落後21分,但在最後幾秒反超比分,隨後 尼克的Jalen Brunson 命中致勝三分球。 今年夏天,布魯克林將Mikal Bridges交易到對手尼克,換來四個首輪選秀權,包括明年 明星雲集的NBA選秀中的一個選秀權時,很多人都認為籃網正為了「揮舞白旗迎接Flagg」 而努力。 (雙關:“Wave the White Flagg for Cooper Flagg.”) 進入2024-25 NBA賽季,籃網在Tankathon.com上被列為獲得狀元簽的頭號熱門,這可能是 杜克大學那位才華橫溢、身高6尺9的Cooper Flagg也可能是身高6尺10、週五在羅格斯大學 首秀中拿下17分並完成一次精彩扣籃的Bailey。 The over/under on the Nets win total was 19.5, per Vegas oddsmakers. But under first-year coach Jordi Fernandez, the Nets (5-8) are competing hard and and would be in the mix for the Play-In Tournament if the postseason started today. Which, of course, it does not. Even when they lose, they are competitive. They led the reigning NBA champion Boston Celtics by 13 points on Wednesday before losing, 139-114. Against the Knicks, Cam Thomas poured in 43 points and Dennis Schröder hit a go-ahead 3-pointer with 11.5 seconds left before Brunson’s game-winner. “Credit my guys, we talked about continuing to believe and fight and fight together,” Fernandez said. “Even though we were down 18 in the fourth, we kept fighting and we found a way. And we didn’t stop fighting.” He added: “Losing hurts, and it hurts to all of us. Right there we showed our identity, and nobody can take that away from us. Nobody.” 根據拉斯維加斯賭盤,籃網的勝場預測值為19.5場。 但在首年執教的Jordi Fernandez帶領下,籃網(5勝8負)打得非常拼命,如果現在是季 後賽,他們將有機會爭奪附加賽名額。但當然,現在還早。 即使輸球,他們的比賽也極具競爭力。週三對陣衛冕冠軍波士頓塞爾提克時,籃網一度 領先13分,但最終以139比114落敗。 對陣尼克時,Cam Thomas拿下43分,Dennis Schröder在比賽還剩11.5秒時投中關鍵三 分球,隨後Brunson命中致勝球。 「給我的球員們點讚,我們談到要繼續相信繼續奮鬥、一起奮鬥。」Jordi Fernandez說 。「即使第四節落後18分,我們仍然在努力,我們找到方法,並且從未停止奮鬥。」 他補充道:「失敗讓人痛苦,對我們所有人來說都很痛苦。我們展示了我們的身份,沒有 人能奪走這一點,沒有人。」 After the loss, the Nets were projected to draft at No. 8, with Tankathon projecting they will 7-foot-2 Duke freshman big man Khaman Maluach -- not Flagg or Bailey. “I think you navigate the season as it goes, and you don’t go into a season saying this is where we’re going to be, this is how it’s going to end,” Marks said outside the visiting locker room at the Garden. “There’s a lot of unforeseen things.” He added: “You’ve gotta give credit to these players, they’re playing with a chip on their shoulder, the coaches are doing a helluva job, so that’s exciting to see. It’s exciting to see an identity being formed and a culture being driven. So who am I to push back on that?” 在輸給尼克之後,籃網目前預測將以第八順位選擇杜克大學7尺2的新生大個子Khaman Maluach,而非Flagg或Bailey。 「我認為你必須隨著賽季的發展來應對,不能一開始就決定我們會在哪裡,或者賽季會如 何結束。」Marks在麥迪遜花園球場的客隊更衣室外說。「還有很多不可預見的事情。」 他補充道:「這些球員值得讚許,他們帶著鬥志在比賽,教練團也做得非常出色,這讓人 感到興奮。看到一種身份被塑造、一種文化被推動,這很令人激動。所以我怎麼可能反對 呢?」 Marks, of course, is doing his due diligence ahead of what’s expected to be a potentially historic draft next summer. After the Bridges trade, the Nets now have 15 first-round picks over the next seven years, including four in 2025. “This year specifically, with all the picks that we have, we have to be scouting a very wide range,” Marks said. “And that’s fine, that’s exciting, we’ve never had that opportunity before.” The highest pick the Nets have had since Marks became GM in 2016 was No. 17 in 2019, which they used on Nickeil Alexander-Walker, who was promptly traded and ended up in New Orleans. The Nets haven’t had a lottery pick since choosing Derrick Favors at No. 3 in 2010. Favors has been out of the NBA for three years. Marks當然也在為預期會是歷史性選秀的明年夏天做準備。 在Bridges交易之後,籃網未來七年內有15個首輪選秀權,包括2025年的四個。 「今年尤其是,考慮到我們擁有的所有選秀權,我們必須對非常廣泛的範圍進行偵察。」 Marks說。「這很好,也很令人興奮,這是我們以前從未有過的機會。」 自2016年Marks成為總經理以來,籃網選秀順位最高的一次是在2019年第17順位,他們 選擇了Nickeil Alexander-Walker,但隨即被交易到紐奧良。 籃網自2010年以第三順位選中Derrick Favors以來,還未曾獲得過樂透選秀權。而 Derrick Favors已經離開NBA三年。 Ahead of next year’s draft, Marks has attended multiple Rutgers’ games, including the preseason exhibition with Rick Pitino’s St. John’s club where both Marks and Nets assistant GM B.J. Johnson were in attendance on a night when Bailey and Harper combined for 45 points. After that game, one NBA scout said of Bailey: “He’s [among the] top-3 youth players in the world. Everyone has Cooper Fever, [but] he will challenge Cooper for No. 1. “It’s not clear cut.” There’s still a long way to go in this NBA season -- and an even longer time before the draft. A lot can happen. The Nets could go into a tailspin and emerge with one of the top picks in the draft. Adam Silver could end up announcing Flagg or Bailey or Harper to the Nets on draft night. But for now, the Nets are competing and could end up in the mix for a playoff spot, in which case they’d miss out on potential franchise-changing players like Flagg or Bailey. “Well, these guys [on the Nets] have done something really right if that’s the case,” Marks said, “and I love that.” 在明年選秀之前,Marks已經多次參加羅格斯大學的比賽,包括在一場對抗Rick Pitino 執教的聖約翰隊的季前熱身賽時,Marks和籃網助理總經理B.J. Johnson都出現在現場。那 場比賽中,Bailey和Harper合力拿下45分 比賽後,一位NBA球探這樣評價Bailey:「他是世界上排名前三的年輕球員之一。每個人都 對Copper(Flagg)瘋狂,但他會挑戰Cooper的狀元地位。」 「這並不明顯。」 NBA賽季還有很長的路要走,而距離選秀更是遙遠。 很多事情可能會發生。 籃網可能會陷入低迷,並獲得選秀前幾名的機會。Adam Silver最終可能在選秀之夜宣布 Flagg or Bailey or Harper 加入籃網。 但目前為止,籃網正在全力競爭,甚至有可能爭奪季後賽席位,而這可能讓他們錯過像 Flagg或Bailey這樣能改變球隊命運的球員。 「嗯,如果是這樣的話,這些籃網球員確實做對了什麼事情,」Marks說道,「而且我非 常喜歡這樣。」 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 籃網聘請一個菜鳥總教練、跟火箭交易拿回自己首輪、把大橋交易到尼克,開季前一臉就 是要直衝選秀狀元的樣子 只是沒想到這個招弟居然是真貨,籃網這季幾乎都是強制五五開,雖然戰績5W8L沒有很亮 眼,但賽事內容都蠻不錯的,先前Stein報說籃網高層可能會加速交易老將,Sean Marks 這採訪算是目前穩定軍心吧,也有可能是不說死以免交易市場時被砍價?(雖然的確也不 能說「對,我們就是要坦」) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.225.14.10 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1731825632.A.340.html

11/17 14:41, 7月前 , 1F
當然不會 不然會被罰
11/17 14:41, 1F
stevenchiang:轉錄至看板 Nets 11/17 14:42

11/17 14:43, 7月前 , 2F
這季正名為搶旗大戰
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11/17 14:43, 7月前 , 3F
擺爛
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11/17 14:43, 7月前 , 4F
可以做不能說
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11/17 14:43, 7月前 , 5F
正常,除非想被阿銀調查
11/17 14:43, 5F

11/17 14:44, 7月前 , 6F
“我們是去競爭、去努力,然後隨機應變”
11/17 14:44, 6F

11/17 14:44, 7月前 , 7F
搶狀元大戰
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11/17 14:45, 7月前 , 8F
今夏講Brunson交易至尼克?
11/17 14:45, 8F
想睡覺打的,打錯了,已修正

11/17 14:45, 7月前 , 9F
籃網5年內籤超多,好好操盤+交易,比很多球隊有前景
11/17 14:45, 9F
※ 編輯: stevenchiang (36.225.14.10 臺灣), 11/17/2024 14:46:45

11/17 14:46, 7月前 , 10F
可以用躺這個字眼
11/17 14:46, 10F

11/17 14:46, 7月前 , 11F
不是坦是過程 七六人很懂
11/17 14:46, 11F

11/17 14:47, 7月前 , 12F
修正有推
11/17 14:47, 12F

11/17 14:47, 7月前 , 13F
76人:不是坦 是相信過程
11/17 14:47, 13F

11/17 14:48, 7月前 , 14F
今年夏天,布魯克林將Jalen Brunson交易到對手尼克?
11/17 14:48, 14F

11/17 14:48, 7月前 , 15F
不坦 改成旗 總行了吧
11/17 14:48, 15F

11/17 14:49, 7月前 , 16F
土旦
11/17 14:49, 16F

11/17 14:49, 7月前 , 17F
為了未來而努力
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11/17 14:49, 7月前 , 18F
沒有坦 只是不想贏
11/17 14:49, 18F

11/17 14:49, 7月前 , 19F
The process
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11/17 14:50, 7月前 , 20F

11/17 14:50, 7月前 , 21F
我們是躺不是坦(≧▽≦)
11/17 14:50, 21F

11/17 14:50, 7月前 , 22F
蔡老闆準備好了
11/17 14:50, 22F

11/17 14:51, 7月前 , 23F
確實,暴龍巫師那種才叫坦
11/17 14:51, 23F

11/17 14:53, 7月前 , 24F
我們是憑實力取得
11/17 14:53, 24F

11/17 14:55, 7月前 , 25F
我不是坦 我是增加機率
11/17 14:55, 25F

11/17 14:55, 7月前 , 26F
爵士暴龍巫師表示:
11/17 14:55, 26F

11/17 14:55, 7月前 , 27F
正常都這樣說,但籃網更衣室文化確實這幾年不會去刻
11/17 14:55, 27F

11/17 14:55, 7月前 , 28F
意坦克,當然你可以說前幾年是沒簽的,今年才全部收
11/17 14:55, 28F

11/17 14:55, 7月前 , 29F
回所以前幾年坦不了
11/17 14:55, 29F

11/17 14:56, 7月前 , 30F
好的,躺
11/17 14:56, 30F

11/17 14:57, 7月前 , 31F
不是坦 是爭奪狀元
11/17 14:57, 31F

11/17 14:58, 7月前 , 32F
好的 坦網
11/17 14:58, 32F

11/17 14:59, 7月前 , 33F
我們努力去獲得FLAGG
11/17 14:59, 33F

11/17 15:04, 7月前 , 34F
迂迴奪冠
11/17 15:04, 34F

11/17 15:07, 7月前 , 35F
好的 坦
11/17 15:07, 35F

11/17 15:08, 7月前 , 36F
為未來而努力
11/17 15:08, 36F
還有 104 則推文
11/17 20:49, 7月前 , 141F
我們是策略式輸球
11/17 20:49, 141F

11/17 20:52, 7月前 , 142F
不是坦 只是搶旗
11/17 20:52, 142F

11/17 20:52, 7月前 , 143F
不是坦,是技術性放水
11/17 20:52, 143F

11/17 20:54, 7月前 , 144F
我們不會坦 這叫技術性輸球
11/17 20:54, 144F

11/17 20:59, 7月前 , 145F
過程
11/17 20:59, 145F

11/17 21:00, 7月前 , 146F
坦(X)策略性輸球(O)
11/17 21:00, 146F

11/17 21:17, 7月前 , 147F
隨機應變
11/17 21:17, 147F

11/17 21:27, 7月前 , 148F
「搶」狀元
11/17 21:27, 148F

11/17 21:36, 7月前 , 149F
競爭、去努力,然後隨機應變……搶狀元
11/17 21:36, 149F

11/17 22:02, 7月前 , 150F
觀念
11/17 22:02, 150F

11/17 22:02, 7月前 , 151F
Ok 擺爛
11/17 22:02, 151F

11/17 22:07, 7月前 , 152F
搶旗計畫
11/17 22:07, 152F

11/17 22:15, 7月前 , 153F
我們就只是很單純的輸而已
11/17 22:15, 153F

11/17 22:16, 7月前 , 154F
搶到狀元的秘訣在於勝率愈低愈有機會。
11/17 22:16, 154F

11/17 22:16, 7月前 , 155F
籃網只是儘量讓自己比賽勝率降低而已。
11/17 22:16, 155F

11/17 22:24, 7月前 , 156F
坦(X) 攤(O)
11/17 22:24, 156F

11/17 22:31, 7月前 , 157F
可以用 Simmons
11/17 22:31, 157F

11/17 22:44, 7月前 , 158F
用收集碎片? 用躺?
11/17 22:44, 158F

11/17 23:30, 7月前 , 159F
不是坦 是爛
11/17 23:30, 159F

11/17 23:33, 7月前 , 160F
用科舉啊 反正目的一樣
11/17 23:33, 160F

11/17 23:41, 7月前 , 161F
躺(O
11/17 23:41, 161F

11/18 00:01, 7月前 , 162F
坦也是很競爭的好嗎?
11/18 00:01, 162F

11/18 00:09, 7月前 , 163F
努力爭取最棒的球員
11/18 00:09, 163F

11/18 00:13, 7月前 , 164F
坦(X) 我就爛(O)
11/18 00:13, 164F

11/18 00:49, 7月前 , 165F
不是坦 我就爛
11/18 00:49, 165F

11/18 00:49, 7月前 , 166F
歷史性的選秀年?我不信惹,當時鵜鶘那隻胖子被捧的多
11/18 00:49, 166F

11/18 00:49, 7月前 , 167F
高,結果現在…西門、圍巾也一樣,選秀也捧高高
11/18 00:49, 167F

11/18 01:14, 7月前 , 168F
不許說我們坦 我們是真的爛
11/18 01:14, 168F

11/18 02:19, 7月前 , 169F
據傳聞籃網可能不會等太久。會在十二月中本季簽約
11/18 02:19, 169F

11/18 02:19, 7月前 , 170F
球員交易解禁後就會很快動作起來。現在CamJ、DFS和
11/18 02:19, 170F

11/18 02:19, 7月前 , 171F
Schroder都表現得不錯,應該趕緊出手免生意外。
11/18 02:19, 171F

11/18 02:21, 7月前 , 172F
有說CamJ表現太好,可能兌現獎金將不易找到下家。
11/18 02:21, 172F

11/18 06:22, 7月前 , 173F
就跟西門百分之百健康一樣
11/18 06:22, 173F

11/18 10:25, 7月前 , 174F
我們用擺爛比較有內涵
11/18 10:25, 174F

11/18 10:27, 7月前 , 175F
是贏不了 不是坦
11/18 10:27, 175F

11/18 11:33, 7月前 , 176F
行,你可以用「觀念」
11/18 11:33, 176F

11/18 11:34, 7月前 , 177F
好的 坦克
11/18 11:34, 177F

11/18 12:20, 7月前 , 178F
打聰明籃球
11/18 12:20, 178F

11/18 12:49, 7月前 , 179F
滾動式開坦
11/18 12:49, 179F

11/18 17:32, 7月前 , 180F
XDDDD
11/18 17:32, 180F
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