[外絮] Ham:我在湖人所做的一切在其他地方都在討論續約了

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https://reurl.cc/ZZ9OoW 節錄他談及湖人的部分 On May 27, 2022, the Lakers hired Ham for his first coaching job after the firing of Frank Vogel. ESPN reported at that time that Lakers were sold by Ham ’s “stature and toughness, his history of coaching star players and championship pedigree as an assistant and player.” The former NBA journeyman forward spent nine seasons under Mike Budenholzer as an assistant coach with the Atlanta Hawks and Milwaukee, including winning the 2021 NBA championship with the Bucks. 在2022年5月27日,湖人在開除Frank Vogel之後雇用了Ham並給他第一份總教練工作。ESPN 報導湖人當時被Ham的個子與堅韌、執教明星球員的經歷以及作為助教與球員的總冠軍經驗 所吸引。這位前NBA浪人在Mike Budenholzer手下作為助理教練在亞特蘭大老鷹與密爾瓦基 公鹿度過了9個球季並贏下了2021NBA總冠軍。 The Lakers were Ham’s first NBA coaching job after being passed over in nine interviews. Upon Ham’s hiring with Los Angeles, James tweeted: “”So damn EXCITED!!!!!!!! Congrats and welcome Coach DHam!!” 湖人是Ham在面試9次失敗後的第一份NBA教練工作。在Ham被洛杉磯雇用之後,James發了推 文"太興奮啦!!!!!!Ham教練恭喜!!" Ham coached James, forward Anthony Davis and the Lakers to a 43-39 record during the 2022-23 season. The Lakers went from a play-in tournament team to the 2023 Western Conference finals. The 2023 NBA champion Denver Nuggets swept the Lakers in those conference finals, but making it there added optimism for the future. Under Ham, the Lakers also won the first NBA Cup championship. 他執教了James、前鋒Anthony Davis並讓湖人在22-23球季打出了43-39的戰績。湖人從附 加賽球隊一路殺到了2023西區決賽。2023年NBA總冠軍丹佛金塊在分區決賽橫掃了湖人,不 過這仍讓湖人的未來看起來更加樂觀。在Ham的執教下,湖人也贏下了第一次NBA盃冠軍。 The Lakers finished the 2023-24 regular season 47-35 and defeated the New Orleans Pelicans in the play-in tournament to land the Western Conference’s seventh spot. The Nuggets, however, foiled the Lakers again, defeating them in the first round of the playoffs in five games. 湖人在23-24球季打出了47-35的戰績並在附加賽打敗了紐奧良鵜鶘並成為第7種子。然而, 金塊再次擊敗了湖人並在第一輪5場之後淘汰了他們。 On May 3, 2024, a stunned Ham was fired by the Lakers. Ham said he was “ disappointed” and that it was “crazy” that he didn’t get an opportunity to grow in the seat. “To do as well as I did, I swear to God, anywhere else I’m probably looking at an extension with what I did,” Ham said. “I’m not talking about feelings. I’m talking actual facts. They go from not making it to the playoffs to the final four in the NBA, the conference finals. And then you win the in-season tournament, navigate through all the injuries and win both of your play-in games to get to the playoffs. “People always talk about us losing to Denver, but they never talk about how we got to Denver. We beat a kick-ass young squad in Memphis and we beat Golden State.” 5/23震驚的Ham被湖人給開除。Ham說他當時感到"失望"且他覺得他沒有獲得機會在那個位 置繼續成長非常"瘋狂"。 "如果做得跟我一樣好,我對天發誓,我達到的成就在任何其他地方應該都在尋求續約。" Ham表示 "我不是在談論感覺。我在談論事實。他們從打不進季後賽一路打到了NBA的四強,分區決 賽。然後我們贏下了季中錦標賽,經歷了各種傷病並贏下附加賽打進季後賽。 "大家只會說我們輸給了丹佛,但他們不討論我們如何抵達了丹佛。我們在曼菲斯打敗了年 輕有活力的球隊又打敗了金州。" “I’m not going through the whole Lakers thing. I thought he got a tough deal there,” Rivers said pregame. Doc Rivers在賽前表示"我不會談論太多湖人的事情。我認為他在那邊的處境相當艱難。" There were questions on social media and from NBA journalists about Ham’s X’ s and O’s, lineups and rotations. Davis questioned Ham’s coaching on both ends during the Nuggets series. ESPN senior writer Ramona Shelburne also previously reported that James lost faith in Ham over the course of last season. 在社群媒體上以及NBA記者都對於Ham的戰術、陣容與輪替有相當多的質疑。Davis在兩次輸 給丹佛金塊後都質疑Ham的執教能力。ESPN資深寫手Ramona Shelburne也曾報導James在上 一季季末的各種事情之後對Ham喪失了信心。 “I’m not a mudslinger and I’m not going to wait until I’m 51 to become one,” Ham said. “You feel like you did enough to sustain in one spot. I felt like I did that. I get it. The franchise I’m working for, the expectations can be unrealistic at certain points in time. To be 33-49 when I was hired, with an unbalanced roster, turn that around, make it to the Western Conference finals. The very next year we were a plus-10 in wins, going from 33-49 to 43-39. And guys got paid on my watch. It went from a lot of unknown scenarios to I think we have a little bit of a core. And then we got hit with the injury bug like crazy last [season]. We might have been Top 5 in games lost to injury. "我不是那種喜歡詆毀別人的人我也不會等到了51歲才變成這種人。"Ham表示。 "你感覺自己做得已經足夠,足以在一個位置上站穩腳跟。我覺得我做到了。我明白,為這 樣一支球隊工作,有時候外界的期待是不切實際的。當我被雇用的時後,我們的戰績是33 勝49負,陣容不平衡,但我扭轉了這個局勢,打進入了西區決賽。接下來的一年,我們的 勝場數多了10場,從33勝49負到43勝39負。而且在我執教期間,有些球員獲得了大合約。 我們從許多未知的情況中走出來,我認為我們形成了一些核心。然後我們上一季遭遇了嚴 重傷病潮,像瘋了一樣。上賽季我們的比賽缺席場次可能排聯盟前五。" “It’s being reported like I’m just throwing some lineups up against the wall to see what sticks. No man, we were really navigating a lot from guys being hurt to having the oldest player in the league [James] to navigating A.D.’s injury history. It was a lot. "有些報導把事情說得像是我隨便把一些陣容丟上去看有什麼效果。不是那樣的,兄弟,我 們真的在處理很多問題,從球員受傷到隊中有聯盟最老的球員(James),再到應對AD的傷病 史,這真的太多了。 “Some of the s— that was coming out? Wow, bro I don’t know X’s and O’s? I was winging it. Dude, that was the most disappointing stuff, how mean and so much stuff people are saying online. The best thing I could do was block out the outside noise,” Ham said. 有些言論,哇,兄弟,他們說我不懂戰術?說我在混日子?這些話是最讓人失望的。網路 上的言論有多刻薄,真的令人難以置信。我能做的最好的事情就是屏蔽外界的噪音。" Ham表示。 ... 後面是他怎麼加入老河(原本想休息) 他為甚麼拒絕Bud 以及一些他家人的事情 ... Meanwhile, the Lakers are off to a 14-12 record under first-year coach J.J. Redick. Ham said that while he has kept in touch with several of his former players, he has not had a conversation of note with James and Davis since he left. 與此同時,湖人現在正在經歷一個14-12敗的紀錄並由菜鳥總教練JJ Redick所帶領。Ham說 雖然他與一些過去執教過的球員維持聯繫,但他離開後還沒跟James或是Davis講過話。 Even so, Ham says he wishes the Lakers the best and has “no ill will.” The Bucks host the Lakers on March 13, 2025, and visit Los Angeles on March 18, 2025. 即使如此,Ham仍說他祝福湖人一切順利且他對於前東家"沒有任何惡意"。公鹿將在2025年 3月13日在主場對陣湖人並在2025年3月18日作客湖人。 “I haven’t talked to anybody,” Ham said. “When we played them in the preseason, I said hello to a couple of guys. Jaxson [Hayes], Cam [Reddish], DLo [D’Angelo Russell], Gabe [Vincent]. But not really, man. LeBron ran past the bench and we had a little bit of small talk. "我還沒跟任何人說過話"Ham表示"我們在熱身賽與他們對陣時,我跟幾個人打了招呼。 Jaxon Hayes、DLo、Gabe Vincent。但真的不多,LeBron跑過替補席時,我們簡短聊了幾 句。" “There is no ill will for me. Their situation is what it is.” "我對他們沒有任何惡意。他們的情況既然已經發生了就是發生了。" 心得 It is what it is -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 104.176.138.216 (美國) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1734558537.A.200.html ※ 編輯: EZ78 (104.176.138.216 美國), 12/19/2024 05:58:03

12/19 05:53, 2月前 , 1F
還敢反駁R 小心下一個吸血鬼就是你
12/19 05:53, 1F

12/19 06:04, 2月前 , 2F
可憐,在湖人做的事情都要被放大檢視
12/19 06:04, 2F

12/19 06:05, 2月前 , 3F
總是有人要背鍋啊,先是德軟龜龜我哥再來是火腿王
12/19 06:05, 3F

12/19 06:05, 2月前 , 4F
子,今年會換誰?
12/19 06:05, 4F

12/19 06:07, 2月前 , 5F
JJ有料
12/19 06:07, 5F

12/19 06:07, 2月前 , 6F
你也不孤單啦 之前還有拿總冠軍照樣被火的
12/19 06:07, 6F

12/19 06:07, 2月前 , 7F
所以根本就不是教練的問題
12/19 06:07, 7F

12/19 06:07, 2月前 , 8F
只是拿教練開刀來掩蓋最大的問題 懂的就懂
12/19 06:07, 8F

12/19 06:10, 2月前 , 9F
都是they的錯 ~
12/19 06:10, 9F

12/19 06:10, 2月前 , 10F
但他調度爛跟不會變通也是事實啊
12/19 06:10, 10F
※ 編輯: EZ78 (104.176.138.216 美國), 12/19/2024 06:11:13

12/19 06:11, 2月前 , 11F
隊上雙星都不滿的教練有哪個坐的穩的啊
12/19 06:11, 11F

12/19 06:12, 2月前 , 12F
別忘公鹿前教練怎麼走的 字母哥不滿季中直接滾蛋
12/19 06:12, 12F

12/19 06:14, 2月前 , 13F
其實Giannis在公鹿最服的教練就是Ham XD
12/19 06:14, 13F

12/19 06:14, 2月前 , 14F
湖人當初也是因為這段關係才找他的
12/19 06:14, 14F

12/19 06:15, 2月前 , 15F
只能說在公鹿扮黑臉跟在湖人當總欸還是不太一樣
12/19 06:15, 15F

12/19 06:16, 2月前 , 16F
看這發言壞習慣會被火就是嘴AD啊 河流換火腿也是重
12/19 06:16, 16F

12/19 06:16, 2月前 , 17F
演嘴字母
12/19 06:16, 17F

12/19 06:16, 2月前 , 18F
他光是不挑戰就很有問題了
12/19 06:16, 18F

12/19 06:17, 2月前 , 19F
老頭 ad dlo 八村都不滿 主力一半以上都有嫌隙 能
12/19 06:17, 19F

12/19 06:17, 2月前 , 20F
續約是見鬼了
12/19 06:17, 20F

12/19 06:19, 2月前 , 21F
唬迷繼續嘴別人暫停跟挑戰 好啦 現在換了個迷迷口
12/19 06:19, 21F

12/19 06:20, 2月前 , 22F
中很會暫停挑戰的 戰績如何啊xdd
12/19 06:20, 22F

12/19 06:20, 2月前 , 23F
看看基德坐爽爽
12/19 06:20, 23F

12/19 06:21, 2月前 , 24F
就 他是真的一定要走 但我也同時不覺得他問題真的
12/19 06:21, 24F

12/19 06:21, 2月前 , 25F
有這麼大
12/19 06:21, 25F

12/19 06:21, 2月前 , 26F
臭老東家
12/19 06:21, 26F

12/19 06:21, 2月前 , 27F
講真的 湖人去年真的很差嗎?我倒是覺得湖人去年打
12/19 06:21, 27F

12/19 06:21, 2月前 , 28F
的並不算差
12/19 06:21, 28F

12/19 06:22, 2月前 , 29F
唬迷當初把別人嘴的一無是處 但事實是他會走的原因
12/19 06:22, 29F

12/19 06:22, 2月前 , 30F
就是跟隊上兩個老大哥有嫌隙
12/19 06:22, 30F

12/19 06:22, 2月前 , 31F
火腿的AD紮營和外線放投的防守方針讓球員還頗健康
12/19 06:22, 31F

12/19 06:23, 2月前 , 32F
47-35絕對不是什麼很糟糕的戰績
12/19 06:23, 32F

12/19 06:23, 2月前 , 33F
不然照唬迷說的 季中盃冠軍含金量這麼高 又有季後
12/19 06:23, 33F

12/19 06:23, 2月前 , 34F
換教練跟球隊文化也有關係
12/19 06:23, 34F

12/19 06:23, 2月前 , 35F
一堆教練都是被火了立刻就找到新工作
12/19 06:23, 35F

12/19 06:23, 2月前 , 36F
賽 不是鐵續約的嗎xdd
12/19 06:23, 36F

12/19 06:23, 2月前 , 37F
可見也不一定是能力的問題
12/19 06:23, 37F

12/19 06:23, 2月前 , 38F
在唬人有問題的永遠是教練不是球員
12/19 06:23, 38F
還有 903 則推文
12/19 16:03, 2月前 , 942F
JJ該上防守組就是乖乖上 任何教練都會這樣做
12/19 16:03, 942F

12/19 16:06, 2月前 , 943F
上防守組守KCP這個沒見識過吧
12/19 16:06, 943F

12/19 16:08, 2月前 , 944F
但是還是會一堆人跳針說這是姆斯的問題
12/19 16:08, 944F

12/19 16:08, 2月前 , 945F
整個系列戰輪替就dlo正分還有理由(攤手)
12/19 16:08, 945F

12/19 16:10, 2月前 , 946F
KCP在最後一波進攻,沒有持球,沒有掩護,而且是大
12/19 16:10, 946F

12/19 16:11, 2月前 , 947F
家早就知道的,火腿特別換了一個防守組上來對位KCP
12/19 16:11, 947F

12/19 16:16, 2月前 , 948F
本來就LBJ的錯啊 敢說不是他的問題 小心被追殺
12/19 16:16, 948F

12/19 16:20, 2月前 , 949F
說真的湖人這兩年都是輸給金塊,原因太多
12/19 16:20, 949F

12/19 16:20, 2月前 , 950F
單純都算火腿鍋也不太對,嚴格來說
12/19 16:20, 950F

12/19 16:21, 2月前 , 951F
金塊某些時候運氣特好,不然湖人應該能多贏兩場
12/19 16:21, 951F

12/19 16:21, 2月前 , 952F
只能說西區金塊特別克制湖人吧,命
12/19 16:21, 952F

12/19 16:23, 2月前 , 953F
火腿有不好的地方,但總結帶湖人的戰績不差
12/19 16:23, 953F

12/19 16:26, 2月前 , 954F
也許有些教練臨場調度比火腿強,但其他地方卻不如
12/19 16:26, 954F

12/19 16:27, 2月前 , 955F
火腿,來來回回也差不多
12/19 16:27, 955F

12/19 16:32, 2月前 , 956F
金塊這幾年拿捏湖人太擅長了,連哨聲都幫了還贏不
12/19 16:32, 956F

12/19 16:32, 2月前 , 957F
了,甚至馬龍教練都敢跟你賽前喊又神秘力量所以一
12/19 16:32, 957F

12/19 16:32, 2月前 , 958F
開始不能領先
12/19 16:32, 958F

12/19 16:33, 2月前 , 959F
因為八村沒愛出征火腿的,很想忘記他被金塊當ATM吧
12/19 16:33, 959F

12/19 16:38, 2月前 , 960F
辛苦了 姆咪是這樣的 你沒有錯
12/19 16:38, 960F

12/19 16:44, 2月前 , 961F
馬龍贏球劇本都馬隨他講 湖人贏了是不是說在薛馬龍
12/19 16:44, 961F

12/19 16:57, 2月前 , 962F
還是幫AR說點話好了…上季AR防守對位murray 數據上
12/19 16:57, 962F

12/19 16:57, 2月前 , 963F
是16/51,31.4%命中率,這應該很出色了吧==
12/19 16:57, 963F

12/19 16:59, 2月前 , 964F
我還以為是拿了總冠軍 原來又是季中賽==
12/19 16:59, 964F

12/19 17:00, 2月前 , 965F
啊這樣跟在湖人的時候是差在哪?
12/19 17:00, 965F

12/19 17:00, 2月前 , 966F
繼續存暫停到下一場?
12/19 17:00, 966F

12/19 17:03, 2月前 , 967F
上季美化八村已經到有某迷說扛的住阿肥惹
12/19 17:03, 967F

12/19 17:06, 2月前 , 968F
反正千錯萬錯都不會是某人的錯 你就乖乖領繩吧wwww
12/19 17:06, 968F

12/19 17:11, 2月前 , 969F
美化八村 vs 美化火腿
12/19 17:11, 969F

12/19 17:32, 2月前 , 970F
腿迷這麼愛 趕快撿去勇士
12/19 17:32, 970F

12/19 18:10, 2月前 , 971F
Vogel也是隨便被趕走
12/19 18:10, 971F

12/19 19:02, 2月前 , 972F
他就是...不適合當總教吧 當首席助教這種純技術職綠
12/19 19:02, 972F

12/19 19:03, 2月前 , 973F
葉可以完美發揮 但說真的總教本來就不是只需要技術
12/19 19:03, 973F

12/19 19:03, 2月前 , 974F
面 不過職業運動贏球就是大聲 今年的瓜變成明年的軍
12/19 19:03, 974F

12/19 19:03, 2月前 , 975F
神也不是第一次發生ㄌ
12/19 19:03, 975F

12/19 19:35, 2月前 , 976F
噁心 腿瓜用人唯親
12/19 19:35, 976F

12/19 19:36, 2月前 , 977F
為何不說不適合打山羌體系 freeAD好嗎 不要再耽誤了
12/19 19:36, 977F

12/19 19:52, 2月前 , 978F
確實 湖人繼續抱著JJ
12/19 19:52, 978F

12/19 22:19, 2月前 , 979F
恩XD
12/19 22:19, 979F

12/20 09:14, 2月前 , 980F
很想問 山羌服哪個教練呀?
12/20 09:14, 980F

12/20 15:22, 2月前 , 981F
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