[情報] 熱火對能交易Butler持樂觀態度

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https://t.co/pxbWXp5InI The Heat are “cautiously optimistic” about the possibility of making a Jimmy Butler trade before the February 6 deadline, according to Barry Jackson and Anthony Chiang of The Miami Herald, who report that Miami has been engaging “several” teams besides the Suns. 熱火對於能夠在2/6交易大限完成Butler的交易保持謹慎樂觀的態度,根據Barry Jackson 以及Anthony Chiang來自邁阿密先鋒報的消息,熱火正在與太陽以外的多支球隊進行交易 討論 While Phoenix has long been viewed as Butler’s preferred landing spot and the team most willing to give the 35-year-old the maximum-salary contract he’ s seeking, the Suns haven’t had much luck finding a trade structure that works, per The Herald. 雖然太陽長期以來都被視為Butler的交易首選,而且球隊願意支付Butler頂薪續約 ,但太陽在尋找合適的交易架構上並沒有取得太多的進展 Bradley Beal would have to be sent to a third team in order for the Suns to acquire Butler, since Phoenix can’t aggregate contracts and Miami isn’t interested in the veteran guard, who has two more years and nearly $111MM left on his contract after this season. Beal必須要在Butler的交易案中被送去第三隊,因為太陽不能合併合約交易且熱火對 Beal,這位本季結束後還有2年111M的球員沒興趣 Finding a taker for Beal has been a challenge, especially since he has the ability to veto any deal using his no-trade clause. While Beal is reportedly open to waiving that clause to join a contending team, ideally one in a warm-weather city, he also seems to be comfortable with the idea of remaining in Phoenix, according to Michael Scotto of HoopsHype. 替Beal尋找下一站是個挑戰,特別是他有霸王條款可以否決任何交易,雖然Beal願意放棄 他的交易否決權以加入一支具有爭冠實力的球隊,且最好是位於溫暖氣候城市的球隊, 但根據Michael Scotto 的報導,Beal對於留在鳳凰城似乎也感到很舒適 Appearing on ESPN (Twitter video links), NBA insider Brian Windhorst backed up the notion that the Heat are talking to teams besides the Suns about Butler and said Miami is “really, really trying to make this happen,” adding that the team’s asking price on Butler has dropped a little from where it was earlier in the month. 根據ESPN的記者Brian Windhorst的報導,熱火確實有在跟太陽以外的球隊談Butler的 交易而且"非常非常努力想讓達成交易",而且球隊對Butler的要價相比上個月以來有所 下降 “Obviously, the Phoenix Suns have tried to get this done for weeks,” Windhorst said. “They have tried three-, four-, five-team machinations. They have not been able to overcome the fact that what they’ve really got to trade is Bradley Beal, who has a no-trade clause and not a very big market. So now I do believe this is going to bring in some other teams. We could see some surprising moves in this little battle in the next couple of days. “… I am not saying for sure this is going to happen. I’m not predicting what’s going to happen. But I do think some teams that thought they were out of this are coming back in because it doesn’t look like the Suns and Heat are going to be able to consummate a deal. I think we might see a team swoop in here and get Jimmy Butler at a cheap price. A guy who can be the best player in a playoff series at a bargain price.” "很顯然,太陽過去幾週已經努力嘗試完成交易,他們嘗試了,3-4-5隊的交易提案,但 他們沒辦法解決的問題是要交易的對象是Bradley Beal,有交易否決權且在他的交易市場 並不大。所以現在我想可能會有其他球隊跳出來,我們可能會在未來幾天看到有一些讓人 意外的動作" "我不是說交易一定會發生,我不是嘗試預言接下來會發生什麼,但我的確認為原本退出 交易的球隊可能會重新加入,因為看起來太陽和熱火無法完成交易,或許會有一支球隊以 較低的代價拿走Jimmy Butler,用特價拿走一名能在季後賽系列賽中成為最佳球員的傢伙 " Since word of Butler’s desire to be traded first broke last month, reports have indicated that the Heat are willing to hang onto the six-time All-Star through this season and revisit trade talks in the summer if they don’t get the sort of return they want by February 6. The club is said to be prioritizing win-now players with contracts that don’t extend beyond 2025/26. 在上個月Butler喊賣我後,如果不能在交易大限前拿回他們要的回報,熱火本來願意將 這名6屆全明星留到暑假再繼續談,而熱火要的是現在可以幫助贏球的球員以及不會超過 26賽季的合約 However, with the standoff between the two sides continuing to escalate, it appears increasingly untenable for Butler to remain on the roster for several more months, which is why the front office is more motivated than ever to find a viable deal. 然而隨著雙方越鬧越僵,Butler繼續待在熱火幾個月這種做法越來越不可行,所以管理層 比以往都還積極尋找可行的交易 As Jackson and Chiang point out, while Butler’s camp has long conveyed that he intends to decline his 2025/26 player option in favor of free agency, the veteran forward could make life difficult on the Heat by picking up that option in June and essentially putting Miami back in the same situation it’s in now — with a disgruntled star on a maximum-salary deal, hamstringing the team’s ability to improve the roster around him. 另外儘管Butler的團隊表示他計劃在25-26賽季拒絕球員選項並進入自由市場,但若Butler 在6月執行他的選項,將使熱火陷入跟目前相同的困境,一個對球隊不滿且拿頂薪的明星球 員,同時缺少改善陣容的靈活性 Additionally, while the Heat are theoretically saving some money as a result of Butler’s suspensions, team-imposed suspensions don’t affect a team’s tax bill, and based on existing precedents, it’s possible Butler will regain a chunk of his lost salary through the appeal process. In other words, the financial incentive to continue suspending him is minimal. 另外雖然熱火可以靠禁賽他省下一點錢,但這對球隊的豪華稅毫無影響,Butler預計會透 過上訴拿回他被罰的部分薪水,換言之用禁賽拿走他的錢刺激他應該沒啥用 Neither Windhorst nor the duo of Jackson and Chiang named specific teams outside of Phoenix that might be exploring a deal for Butler. Previous reporting has indicated that the Grizzlies have kicked the tires on the possibility, despite being warned against it, while Marc Stein said on Monday that rival clubs continue to wonder if the Bucks will get involved. 目前的消息都還沒提到除太陽以外,哪些球隊可能對Butler有興趣,先前有消息指出灰熊 有興趣-即使有其他消息提出了警告 (就Butler不想去灰熊) 而Marc Stein在週一表示,聯盟內的其他球隊仍在觀望公鹿會不會參加Butler的交易案。 應該是不會再拖了,大概下週交易大限前就確定會送走了 因為熱火自己也從本來想拖延,變成稍微感覺到不能再拖下去了 目前是稍微對要價讓步增加其他球隊的興趣,也可能有利交易的擴展 搞不好最後出手的會是讓人意想不到的球隊也說不定 然後太陽就老問題,搞不定Beal就沒得談 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 27.52.198.19 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1738081395.A.090.html ※ 編輯: dragon803 (27.52.198.19 臺灣), 01/29/2025 00:25:34

01/29 00:24, 1天前 , 1F
交易愈來愈樂觀
01/29 00:24, 1F

01/29 00:25, 1天前 , 2F
太樂觀了 最好交易不成功 吉巴繼續和油頭鬥法
01/29 00:25, 2F

01/29 00:31, 1天前 , 3F
換不換得成一直不是在這邊
01/29 00:31, 3F

01/29 00:34, 1天前 , 4F
阿銀去年都插手登登了 這個更醜沒理由不管
01/29 00:34, 4F

01/29 00:34, 1天前 , 5F
雖然我覺得油頭未必會鳥阿銀XD
01/29 00:34, 5F

01/29 00:35, 1天前 , 6F
那麼樂觀 還搞禁賽
01/29 00:35, 6F

01/29 00:35, 1天前 , 7F
油頭最鐵血 不要鳥阿銀 也不要交易吉巴 照做就輸了
01/29 00:35, 7F

01/29 00:35, 1天前 , 8F
交易成不成,主要還是看熱火要價多少,只要肯讓步
01/29 00:35, 8F

01/29 00:35, 1天前 , 9F
猶頭比油頭厲害
01/29 00:35, 9F

01/29 00:35, 1天前 , 10F
的確可以樂觀點
01/29 00:35, 10F

01/29 00:36, 1天前 , 11F
熱火縮了?
01/29 00:36, 11F

01/29 00:36, 1天前 , 12F
11年前某個對某件事情感到樂觀的人已經......
01/29 00:36, 12F

01/29 00:36, 1天前 , 13F
現在賠率長怎樣
01/29 00:36, 13F

01/29 00:38, 1天前 , 14F
反著聽
01/29 00:38, 14F

01/29 00:39, 1天前 , 15F
又硬又縮 是你熱火 lol
01/29 00:39, 15F

01/29 00:40, 1天前 , 16F
如果說不想去底特律還可以理解,這不知道是看到第
01/29 00:40, 16F

01/29 00:40, 1天前 , 17F
幾個球員說不想去灰熊
01/29 00:40, 17F

01/29 00:42, 1天前 , 18F
霸王比爾領那個薪水打那什麼鳥樣還想去爭冠球隊喔
01/29 00:42, 18F

01/29 00:43, 1天前 , 19F
不想去灰熊?那油頭應該會送你去XD
01/29 00:43, 19F

01/29 00:43, 1天前 , 20F
因為關鍵不是薪水不是鳥樣 而是那個霸王啊
01/29 00:43, 20F

01/29 00:45, 1天前 , 21F
所以熱火真的會怕吉巴執行PO?
01/29 00:45, 21F

01/29 00:45, 1天前 , 22F
應該不會到最後是來我網吧...
01/29 00:45, 22F

01/29 00:46, 1天前 , 23F
交易失敗後的大場面 才是流量保證
01/29 00:46, 23F

01/29 00:48, 1天前 , 24F
吉巴就繼續拖著撿PO看誰先受不了
01/29 00:48, 24F

01/29 00:48, 1天前 , 25F
基本上太陽快出局了 比爾沒人要接盤 爛隊他老哥又不
01/29 00:48, 25F

01/29 00:51, 1天前 , 26F
熱火搞成這樣 讓吉巴的賣相更差了吧 誰還敢要啊
01/29 00:51, 26F

01/29 00:51, 1天前 , 27F
屑去 不如丟中鋒換點貨回來
01/29 00:51, 27F

01/29 00:51, 1天前 , 28F
越來越樂觀了
01/29 00:51, 28F

01/29 00:53, 1天前 , 29F
吉巴的訴求一直是續三年頂 氣氛也是早就知道的
01/29 00:53, 29F
規則上他只能續2年喔 到27賽季 ※ 編輯: dragon803 (27.52.198.19 臺灣), 01/29/2025 00:54:07

01/29 00:54, 1天前 , 30F
感覺賣到坦隊機率更高,像是公牛巫師爵士之類的,
01/29 00:54, 30F

01/29 00:54, 1天前 , 31F
反正坦隊也要填下限剩明年一年合約好處理
01/29 00:54, 31F

01/29 00:58, 1天前 , 32F
只要比爾有霸王,他就可以否決任何他不想去的交易
01/29 00:58, 32F

01/29 00:58, 1天前 , 33F
然後只有太陽老闆會願意開頂薪延長給吉巴
01/29 00:58, 33F

01/29 00:59, 1天前 , 34F
對啦 主要還是那個鳥權
01/29 00:59, 34F

01/29 00:59, 1天前 , 35F
KOC: 因為熱火降價,所以勇士回歸交易吉巴的談判
01/29 00:59, 35F

01/29 01:05, 1天前 , 36F
不是看著Beal賣不出去 就可以對自己樂觀耶 XDDDD
01/29 01:05, 36F

01/29 01:06, 1天前 , 37F
坦隊也不會要JB吧,要來幹嘛?填薪資也要看給不給籤
01/29 01:06, 37F

01/29 01:11, 1天前 , 38F
都沒球隊要,也能保底把他賣去灰熊啊,所以熱火不
01/29 01:11, 38F
還有 45 則推文
01/29 02:15, 1天前 , 84F
降到第1奢侈稅線以下,可以省多少奢侈稅就沒算過了
01/29 02:15, 84F

01/29 02:15, 1天前 , 85F
01/29 02:15, 85F

01/29 02:21, 1天前 , 86F
安吉你沒貼簽最好會收
01/29 02:21, 86F

01/29 02:28, 1天前 , 87F
我猜油頭賤賣吉巴 再狠狠羞辱一次
01/29 02:28, 87F

01/29 03:19, 1天前 , 88F
還真別說 爵士那包我會換XDD
01/29 03:19, 88F

01/29 03:29, 1天前 , 89F
其實我不理解吉巴在鬧什麼,他不會真的覺得自己還
01/29 03:29, 89F

01/29 03:29, 1天前 , 90F
值得續頂薪吧…
01/29 03:29, 90F

01/29 03:44, 1天前 , 91F
賣? 油頭還要貼簽吧
01/29 03:44, 91F

01/29 03:57, 1天前 , 92F
我火承受不起吉巴明年撿po
01/29 03:57, 92F

01/29 05:13, 1天前 , 93F
有人中年換工作會自願降薪的嗎
01/29 05:13, 93F

01/29 05:41, 1天前 , 94F
他就是知道自己不值頂薪 才想利用明星光環鬧看看能
01/29 05:41, 94F

01/29 05:42, 1天前 , 95F
不能逼球團就範 但挑到比他更雞八更硬的油頭 下不了
01/29 05:42, 95F

01/29 05:43, 1天前 , 96F
台 明明其他別人鬧都有達到目的 就我沒有 我怎麼吞
01/29 05:43, 96F

01/29 05:47, 1天前 , 97F
James(兩個都是) 都有降薪阿
01/29 05:47, 97F

01/29 05:57, 1天前 , 98F
為什麼灰熊老是被打槍
01/29 05:57, 98F

01/29 06:02, 1天前 , 99F
Ja位置重疊?
01/29 06:02, 99F

01/29 07:42, 1天前 , 100F
不要換了啦 就冰一年半 換個霸王來陣痛期多一年半
01/29 07:42, 100F

01/29 08:08, 1天前 , 101F
5000+霸王條款的比爾 看誰要來吞
01/29 08:08, 101F

01/29 08:11, 1天前 , 102F
熱火腦子敲到才會要比爾 真的願意接受比爾早就交易
01/29 08:11, 102F

01/29 08:11, 1天前 , 103F
成真了 就是熱火不要比爾 要讓吉巴去太陽成真就是
01/29 08:11, 103F

01/29 08:11, 1天前 , 104F
要拉3方甚至4方 然後還要讓比爾去讓他點頭同意放棄
01/29 08:11, 104F

01/29 08:11, 1天前 , 105F
霸王的球隊 這難度有多高
01/29 08:11, 105F

01/29 09:09, 1天前 , 106F
一堆熱火老將出來抱怨
01/29 09:09, 106F

01/29 09:18, 1天前 , 107F
Beal現在的合約金額跟長度等於吉巴延長合約後的金
01/29 09:18, 107F

01/29 09:18, 1天前 , 108F
額跟長度,你要熱火吃Beal合約,熱火不如直接續約
01/29 09:18, 108F

01/29 09:19, 1天前 , 109F
吉巴就好,因為是幾乎一樣的合約,實力比較強又沒
01/29 09:19, 109F

01/29 09:19, 1天前 , 110F
有霸王條款
01/29 09:19, 110F

01/29 09:25, 1天前 , 111F
如果太陽補貼beal 家人在鳳凰城的房子租金到beal
01/29 09:25, 111F

01/29 09:25, 1天前 , 112F
在芝加哥約滿呢?
01/29 09:25, 112F

01/29 09:26, 1天前 , 113F
這樣比爾願意放棄霸王條款嗎
01/29 09:26, 113F

01/29 09:43, 1天前 , 114F
最好是可以這樣啦 這種額外私下補償的會被慘罰
01/29 09:43, 114F

01/29 10:59, 1天前 , 115F
你樂觀 其他隊可能沒有
01/29 10:59, 115F

01/29 11:00, 1天前 , 116F
吉巴這様搞,賣相越來越差。其他隊誰敢要
01/29 11:00, 116F

01/29 11:19, 1天前 , 117F
交易愈來愈樂觀 XD
01/29 11:19, 117F

01/29 11:20, 1天前 , 118F
不是,你火賠著賣總交易得掉吧?
01/29 11:20, 118F

01/29 11:26, 1天前 , 119F
密約看看灰狼的下場,罰十年選秀權
01/29 11:26, 119F

01/29 11:29, 1天前 , 120F
熱火那不是賠著賣的問題了,出得起比吉巴難搞的合約
01/29 11:29, 120F

01/29 11:29, 1天前 , 121F
還真的沒多少,金塊Nnaji跟MPJ那包,Beal的其他都很
01/29 11:29, 121F

01/29 11:29, 1天前 , 122F
難湊出50M難搞的薪資
01/29 11:29, 122F

01/29 15:21, 21小時前 , 123F
我還期待明年士官長跟油頭,持續糾纏。加油。
01/29 15:21, 123F
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