[花邊] Cuban 和小牛前員工在臉書上激烈爭吵

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https://reurl.cc/7KeYq1 riddit討論串 https://i.imgur.com/hxruMnZ.png
Link to full post - https://www.facebook.com/share/p/12EGeskc4aD/ 原文位置,不過他們後來刪了很多內容 https://x.com/Mavs_FFL/status/1906067368888902141?s=19 完整內容截圖 I'm not exactly sure what Gavin Mulloy's roll was with the Mavs, but he a Cuban had a heated exchange on Facebook. 我不太確定 Gavin Mulloy 先前在獨行俠的職位, 但他和庫班在臉書上有激烈的爭執。 It starts out with Gavin making a post "Cuban should be run out of Dallas." . Here's what followed. Some of these quotes were not directly at each other specifically. 事情的開端是: Gavin 發了一則留言寫:「庫班應該被趕出達拉斯。」 接下來就發生了後來這些事。後面有些文字可能不是特別針對對方回答的 (可能是討論串中其他人) Gavin Mulloy - "the Cuban cucklords are wild. Guy has always been a dork trying to buy his way into being cool." 加文 “庫班的支持者真瘋狂。 這個人一直是個傻蛋,試圖用錢來買大家覺得他很酷的人設。” Cuban - "yeah. F him. He’s always been a dork trying to buy his way into being cool. " 庫班 “對啦。去他媽的。他一直是個傻蛋,用錢來買很酷的人設。” Gavin - "Go dig up his quotes on the responsibility of an owner of a franchise and being a Shepard of a franchise, to sell to the Adelsons flies in the face of that. He did this to get casino $$." 加文 “回去翻那些他曾經發表對擁有球隊的責任, 以及作為球隊守護者的言論,賣給阿德爾森家族完全違背了這些。 他這麼做就是為了賺賭場的錢。” Gavin - "who hired Nico....Cuban. he has blood on his hands here, he's just doing better damage control than Mavs" 加文 “何不想想是誰聘用Nico的...就是庫班。 他手上有也血,他也有責任,他只不過是傷害控制做得比獨行俠像樣而已。” Cuban - "did I miss your complaints when we went to the finals last year ? How upset were you then ?" 庫班 “去年我們打進總冠軍賽時你怎麼不出來噴啊?你那時怎麼不生氣?” Gavin - "bro, this is so "do you like those super bowls, I hope you did very much"." 加文 "老兄,這問題就像是'你喜不喜歡那些超級碗啊,我希望你是真的很喜歡啊'" Gavin - "Better question is why did he tell us he'd remain in control of Basketball Ops and not get that in writing?" 加文“更好的問題是,為什麼他告訴我們, 他會保持掌控籃球事務運作,卻沒有能將其寫入合約?” Gavin - "man, he has repeatedly stated that owning a local sports team comes with obligations and you are a sheppard who just steers it. To sell to these folks is a complete rebuke of that ideal, which he understood. Culture > Business. It's why fandom is required. He also lied that he would maintain basketball ops. He would get that in writing, as any business person knows. His office was emptied day of sale. I was there." 加文 “他一直聲稱擁有在地體育隊伍有責任,作為一個引領人, 賣給這些人完全背離了他聲稱的理念,而他明明心知肚明。 文化 > 商業。這就是為什麼需要球迷的原因。 他還撒謊說會維持籃球事務運作。他應該把這寫入合約, 正如任何商人都知道的。他的辦公室早在出售的當天就被清空了。我當時在場。” Cuban - "Thanks for all the laughs!" 庫班 “謝謝你讓我笑的那麼開心啊!” Cuban - "Hey Gavin Mulloy how much of a bonus did you get when I sold ?" 庫班 “嘿,我說加文,在我賣掉球隊後你拿到了多少獎金啊?” Gavin - "not enough to make up for the Luka trade. I'd give your dirty $$ back for Luka to be here, how about you?" 加文 “尚不夠彌補交易掉 Doncic 的損失。 我很願意把你那些髒錢還給你,換 Doncic 回來,你呢?” Cuban - "Gavin you didn’t say a word when it showed up in your account. Did you ? Sure looked good when we made it to the finals didn’t it ?I did every damn thing I could for 23 years. Kept prices lower than not only any nba team , but lower than college teams too. I had $2 tickets for multiple years. When I sold there were always 4k tickets under $29I made money 2 out of 23 years I was the majority owner. Lost hundreds of millions of dollars. And you kept on collecting your salary. So my $dirty dollars didn’t get a peep out of you those 23 years. Or when you got your check every two weeks. Or when you got your bonus Go back to what I said when I sold the team. I didnt want my kids and family to have to deal with people like you. I honestly got tired of the growing number of fans who became pricks on social media. People exactly like you. I paid your salary. I paid you a bonus I didn’t have to give you. The Nico and the new owners do something none of us liked and you decide to try to fuck with me. Thank you for confirming I made the right decision." 庫班“加文,你領到獎金時可沒說什麼吧? 當我們進入總冠軍賽時,這筆錢看起來不錯吧? 我為了這支球隊付出了23年,盡我所能。 我保持票價永遠低於任何NBA隊伍,甚至低於大學球隊。 我兩美元的票賣了好幾年。當我賣掉球隊時,還有4000張票低於29美元。 我持有球隊的大部分時間內,只有2年賺錢,損失了幾億美元。 而在這期間你則繼續領著你的薪水。所以在那23年裡, 我那些 '髒錢' 沒有引起你一絲一毫抱怨。 當你每兩週領到薪水時,當你領到獎金時。 當我賣掉球隊時都沒有,我不想讓我的孩子和家人跟像你這樣的人打交道。 說實話,我真的對越來越多的球迷在社交媒體上變得像個混蛋感到厭倦, 正是像你這樣的人。我支付了你的薪水。我給了你一筆獎金,我本來不必發的。 現在 Nico 和新東家做了一些我們不喜歡的事, 而你卻決定來挑戰我。謝謝你證實了我做出的正確決定。” Gavin - "Mark if Money was my goal, I'd never take a paycut like I did to work at the Mavs silly. Everyone warns you of how underpaid you will be there. Your staff warns people. You don't get to dodge blame for selling it to the people you did. You hired Nico. Did you lie when you said you were going to maintain basketball ops control, or did you make a terrible business deal by not getting that in writing? People in Dallas see you at fault here and that wont go away. Your PR tour won't change that." 加文 "馬克,如果我要的只是錢,我根本不會像我先前那樣,為了來獨行俠隊而減薪。 每個人都警告業內人士,在那裡上班會領低薪。 你的員工也警告過這件事。你不能因為把球隊賣給這些人就逃避責任。 你聘用了 Nico。當你說要保持控制籃球事務運作時,你是不是撒了謊, 還是做了個糟糕的商業決定,沒有把這這件事寫進合約? 達拉斯的人認為你有責任,這點不會改變。你的公關巡迴也改變不了這一點。” Cuban - "Gavin actually I fully expected to run basketball. The nba wouldn’t let me put it in the contract. They took it out. Just like they won’t let the Celtics put it in. I thought they would stick to their word because they didn ’t know the first thing about running a team. Someone obviously changed their mind But that’s in the past. Life is too short to deal with thousands of people like you. It used to be fun engaging with the fans , win or lose, we wanted what was best for the Mavs. We shared in the good and bad. There was always some level of optimism. Even after disappointment Then the whole “get Luka some help “ nonsense started. Non stop online. Then it seemed like it turned into more fun for people to complain than to enjoy the Mavs or the nba Between dealing with the nba and their idiocy and fans like you, it wasn’t worth the non stop shit. Why would I want to keep on losing that much money so I could take shit from people like you , and then my kids could take over and get shit. Why would I do that to them ?I mean I literally left 40m plus on the table so that I could reward the people who worked for the Mavs. Never really thought I would get shit for it. Live and learn. I love the game and the Mavs. But It’s a lot more fun to just be a fan. I was a fan when Perot owned the team. I can be a fan now. MFFL" 庫班“加文,實際上,我完全預期我會控制籃球事務運作。 然而NBA不讓我把這寫入合約。他們把它刪掉了。 就像他們不讓塞爾提克寫進去一樣。我以為他們會遵守承諾, 因為他們對經營球隊一無所知。顯然有人改變了主意,但這已經是過去的事了。 人生苦短,我無法與像你這樣的幾千人打交道。 曾經跟球迷互動是件有趣的事,無論輸贏,我們都希望能為獨行俠隊做最好的事。 我們共享好的和壞的時光。即使失望,也總有一絲樂觀。 然後所有的 '給Luka找幫手' 的胡說八道開始了。 網路上沒完沒了。接著似乎變成了人們更喜歡抱怨,而不是享受獨行俠或NBA。 面對NBA的愚蠢和像你這樣的球迷,這種不斷的負面情緒根本不值得。 為什麼我要繼續虧那麼多錢,還要被像你這樣的人罵, 然後讓我的孩子接手後也繼續被罵呢? 我怎麼忍心這麼做?我實際上放棄了4000萬美元, 只是為了獎勳那些為獨行俠隊工作的人。我從沒想到我會因此被罵。 活得越長就學到越多教訓。 我愛這個球賽,也愛獨行俠隊。但當一個普通的球迷更有趣。 我曾是佩羅特(Perot)擁有球隊時的球迷,我現在也能是一個球迷。MFFL” Gavin - "so you admit you sold to someone who knows nothing about running a basketball team, with a checkered past and expected them to stay true to their words. Would you call that a good business decision? Or did the money make you not care if the fans got f'ed?" 加文“所以你承認你把球隊賣給了一個對經營籃球隊一無所知、過去有爭議的人, 還希望他們遵守口頭承諾。你覺得這是個好的商業決定嗎? 還是錢,讓你不在乎球迷的感受?” Gavin - " I don't think it's SCENE yet, me & my folks don't cower." 加文“我不認為這樁事到此結束了,我們這些人不會畏懼。” 真的是大腸面耶 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.234.19.98 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1743317656.A.D21.html

03/30 14:55, 2天前 , 1F
庫班幹嘛去跟人吵 錢到手就好了
03/30 14:55, 1F

03/30 14:56, 2天前 , 2F
庫班一直都很在乎名聲,會吵起來也不意外
03/30 14:56, 2F

03/30 14:56, 2天前 , 3F
講真的 錢賺到了 還要搏名聲 什麼都要是真的太貪心
03/30 14:56, 3F

03/30 14:57, 2天前 , 4F
都把球隊賣了還要什麼狗屁名聲
03/30 14:57, 4F

03/30 14:58, 2天前 , 5F
這位前員工講得蠻實在的
03/30 14:58, 5F
※ 編輯: LABOYS (36.234.19.98 臺灣), 03/30/2025 14:58:53

03/30 14:59, 2天前 , 6F
前員工說的都真心話,庫班錢也要面子也要就太多了
03/30 14:59, 6F

03/30 15:00, 2天前 , 7F
大場面
03/30 15:00, 7F

03/30 15:01, 2天前 , 8F
大實話 要錢還要面子真的就貪心了
03/30 15:01, 8F

03/30 15:01, 2天前 , 9F
這真的是大場面
03/30 15:01, 9F

03/30 15:01, 2天前 , 10F
庫班也沒錯吧 誰知道後來的事
03/30 15:01, 10F

03/30 15:03, 2天前 , 11F
感覺就生活太無聊了 找點架來吵
03/30 15:03, 11F

03/30 15:03, 2天前 , 12F
說真的 我不太懂庫班做錯甚麼
03/30 15:03, 12F

03/30 15:03, 2天前 , 13F
老闆又要錢又要營造超愛球隊 哪有這麼好的事
03/30 15:03, 13F

03/30 15:04, 2天前 , 14F
她最爛的點反而是奪冠後那幾年 年年要組超級球隊
03/30 15:04, 14F

03/30 15:04, 2天前 , 15F
然後年年找一堆二線球星的時候
03/30 15:04, 15F

03/30 15:04, 2天前 , 16F
都賣掉球隊了還可以罵庫班喔
03/30 15:04, 16F

03/30 15:05, 2天前 , 17F
坦白講Nico賣掉77前做的交易也都還不錯,明顯KP跟
03/30 15:05, 17F

03/30 15:05, 2天前 , 18F
大頭森換成好的角色球員會更好
03/30 15:05, 18F

03/30 15:05, 2天前 , 19F
每個都賺到但還是要出來刷存在感
03/30 15:05, 19F

03/30 15:05, 2天前 , 20F
看下來庫班是受不了酸民和賠錢只好出售球隊,而且
03/30 15:05, 20F

03/30 15:05, 2天前 , 21F
為了luka 的交易而批評庫班這20年的經營有點太過了
03/30 15:05, 21F

03/30 15:05, 2天前 , 22F
虧多年,只有2年賺錢
03/30 15:05, 22F

03/30 15:06, 2天前 , 23F
然後77就被賣了 對啊
03/30 15:06, 23F

03/30 15:06, 2天前 , 24F
別吵了 哭班跟妮可一起在洛杉磯立雕像大家都滿意
03/30 15:06, 24F

03/30 15:06, 2天前 , 25F
有責任但硬要怪他就不合理
03/30 15:06, 25F

03/30 15:07, 2天前 , 26F
因為庫班賣掉時還聲稱保持對球隊營運的控制權吧
03/30 15:07, 26F

03/30 15:07, 2天前 , 27F
他大概想說這個酸民把老闆當做慈善事業
03/30 15:07, 27F

03/30 15:07, 2天前 , 28F
結果現在看起來當時那聲稱就是個...
03/30 15:07, 28F

03/30 15:07, 2天前 , 29F
番外篇
03/30 15:07, 29F

03/30 15:08, 2天前 , 30F
就對他聲稱還能對球隊有影響力不滿吧 結果什麼都沒
03/30 15:08, 30F

03/30 15:08, 2天前 , 31F
能打架就不要吵架
03/30 15:08, 31F

03/30 15:08, 2天前 , 32F
實際上他就不想玩賣個好價錢整天困霸數錢了
03/30 15:08, 32F

03/30 15:09, 2天前 , 33F
財報丟出來阿 兩年賺錢?
03/30 15:09, 33F

03/30 15:10, 2天前 , 34F
小牛主場滿座率很高 你這種人都哭只賺兩年 其他小
03/30 15:10, 34F

03/30 15:10, 2天前 , 35F
市場球隊不也做功德
03/30 15:10, 35F

03/30 15:10, 2天前 , 36F
前員工爆料真實性不錯
03/30 15:10, 36F

03/30 15:10, 2天前 , 37F
籃球事業只有兩年賺我可能信 不過賣球隊出去沒有一
03/30 15:10, 37F

03/30 15:10, 2天前 , 38F
隊是賠錢的
03/30 15:10, 38F
還有 590 則推文
03/31 05:39, 1天前 , 629F
這個前員工沒有說錯啊,在那邊說什麼獎金怎樣的,
03/31 05:39, 629F

03/31 05:39, 1天前 , 630F
他領獎金的時候Luka可沒有被交易走。
03/31 05:39, 630F

03/31 07:54, 1天前 , 631F
還在洗庫班名聲差想合理化賭性俠決策是他害的喔 加
03/31 07:54, 631F

03/31 07:54, 1天前 , 632F
文領獎金不管球隊盈虧也不懂政治力介入就該閉嘴了
03/31 07:54, 632F

03/31 08:00, 1天前 , 633F
認真講,一般員工其實不太會去管公司有沒有賺錢…
03/31 08:00, 633F

03/31 08:00, 1天前 , 634F
說真的你沒持股,你也不太會去管哪家公司會不會賺
03/31 08:00, 634F

03/31 08:01, 1天前 , 635F
錢啊… 除非那間公司是股價能影響整個股市的等級。
03/31 08:01, 635F

03/31 08:01, 1天前 , 636F
應該沒多少人認真看過自家公司近五年財報,除非本
03/31 08:01, 636F

03/31 08:01, 1天前 , 637F
身工作跟財報有關。
03/31 08:01, 637F

03/31 08:03, 1天前 , 638F
所以前員工不會特別去反駁有沒有賺錢,其實蠻正常
03/31 08:03, 638F

03/31 08:03, 1天前 , 639F
的,因為他也真的不會知道啦…
03/31 08:03, 639F

03/31 08:04, 1天前 , 640F
庫班可以請律師告
03/31 08:04, 640F

03/31 08:30, 1天前 , 641F
他主要不是靠籃球票賺錢,主要是靠炒球場附近的地
03/31 08:30, 641F

03/31 08:31, 1天前 , 642F
皮賺錢,這個應該不在算球隊的錢
03/31 08:31, 642F

03/31 08:55, 1天前 , 643F
其實老實說 在商言商高點把球隊賣掉也不是問題 一
03/31 08:55, 643F

03/31 08:55, 1天前 , 644F
開始大家也只是覺得庫班對球隊掌控力沒以前大 只是
03/31 08:55, 644F

03/31 08:55, 1天前 , 645F
沒人想到新老闆這麼瘋把門面拿去交易 現在只是秋
03/31 08:55, 645F

03/31 08:55, 1天前 , 646F
後算帳而已 前員工講得只是球迷心裡話不太好聽罷
03/31 08:55, 646F

03/31 08:56, 1天前 , 647F
了 庫班既然沒球隊實際掌握權這波他怎麼樣都是理虧
03/31 08:56, 647F

03/31 09:53, 1天前 , 648F
庫班做到垃圾交易多了去了 只是沒人有興趣一筆一筆
03/31 09:53, 648F

03/31 09:54, 1天前 , 649F
翻舊帳 他是曾經是有熱情的老闆肯花錢的老闆 但也
03/31 09:54, 649F

03/31 09:54, 1天前 , 650F
不是一直都這樣 奪冠後整支球隊就是年年省錢拼裝車
03/31 09:54, 650F

03/31 09:54, 1天前 , 651F
不上不下好長一段時間 就不用一直幫他塑造他做好交
03/31 09:54, 651F

03/31 09:54, 1天前 , 652F
易沒被感謝 現在卻要背鍋這樣偷換概念的事情了 因
03/31 09:54, 652F

03/31 09:54, 1天前 , 653F
為歷史上他主導要做的爛交易隨便看球久一點的人都
03/31 09:54, 653F

03/31 09:54, 1天前 , 654F
能舉出好幾筆
03/31 09:54, 654F

03/31 12:32, 1天前 , 655F
經營期間不賺錢,但最後賣股權大賺錢
03/31 12:32, 655F

03/31 12:55, 1天前 , 656F
不覺得庫班賣股權有問題 NBA的本質就是商業聯盟
03/31 12:55, 656F

03/31 12:56, 1天前 , 657F
賣77也不是他能控制的 怪他賣給不懂經營的新老闆
03/31 12:56, 657F

03/31 12:57, 1天前 , 658F
這也管太多了吧 難道賣球隊還需要員工和球迷同意嗎?
03/31 12:57, 658F

03/31 13:00, 1天前 , 659F
Nico賣77之前是被牛迷捧成神的 誰知道他會這樣搞?
03/31 13:00, 659F

03/31 13:56, 1天前 , 660F
我不認為nico不懂籃球 沒有完全體的獨行俠陣容讓他
03/31 13:56, 660F

03/31 13:56, 1天前 , 661F
驗證戰績誰知道對不對
03/31 13:56, 661F

03/31 20:49, 22小時前 , 662F
情勒恐怖情人+弱者心態 動不了壞人就用道義責任勒索
03/31 20:49, 662F

03/31 20:49, 22小時前 , 663F
沒那麼好的好人 呵呵
03/31 20:49, 663F

03/31 21:02, 22小時前 , 664F
怪庫班真的好怪喔
03/31 21:02, 664F

03/31 21:20, 22小時前 , 665F
照德老訪談,他是覺得庫班該預料到...就不知道有啥
03/31 21:20, 665F

03/31 21:21, 22小時前 , 666F
徵兆讓Dirk覺得庫班該能預見?
03/31 21:21, 666F

03/31 21:40, 21小時前 , 667F
感覺就是當初那句"還掌控籃球事務運作"的問題
03/31 21:40, 667F

04/01 08:31, 10小時前 , 668F
庫班身家多少現在拿虧錢出來說嘴喔
04/01 08:31, 668F
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