[專欄] 記者:吉巴使苦命成為勇士非必須的奢侈品

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網址:https://sfstandard.com/2025/04/17/warriors-jonathan-kuminga-future-steve-k err/?utm_source=native_share 縮網址:https://reurl.cc/NYQrnQ 原標題:Kawakami: The Butler trade made Jonathan Kuminga an inessential luxury f or Warriors By Tim Kawakami Published Apr. 17, 2025 ‧ 7:56am The very best thing that happened to the Warriors this season was also the very worst thing that could’ve happened to Jonathan Kuminga’s Warriors career at th is quite significant moment for everybody involved. 這個賽季對勇士隊來說最好的事情,同時也可能是對 Jonathan Kuminga 的勇士生涯來說, 在這個對所有人都至關重要的時刻,最糟糕的發展。 Jimmy Butler arrived in February while Kuminga was out with a sprained ankle and the Warriors changed in a way that essentially left Kuminga behind, even when h e returned in mid-March. And in a way that, team sources acknowledge, confirmed some things Steve Kerr had been weighing for a while. Jimmy Butler 在二月加入球隊時,Kuminga 正因腳踝扭傷缺陣,而勇士隊的打法因此發生了 改變,某種程度上也讓 Kuminga 即使在三月中復出後,仍被擱置在一旁。球隊消息人士也坦 言,這樣的變化某種程度上證實了 Steve Kerr 一直以來的一些考量。 That’s the simplest, broadest answer to two glaring questions as the Warriors h ead into the first round of the playoffs: Why did Kerr completely bench Kuminga in the last two enormous games? And does this mean that Kuminga’s time with the Warriors is all but over? 這是對勇士即將進入季後賽首輪時,兩個顯而易見的問題最簡單、也最廣泛的解答:為什麼 Kerr 在最後兩場關鍵比賽中完全棄用 Kuminga?而這是否也意味著 Kuminga 在勇士的時光 幾乎已經走到盡頭了? In the short term, Kerr hasn’t ruled out playing Kuminga in the playoffs, espec ially in this series against the extremely athletic Rockets. But Kerr has made i t clear that Kuminga is behind Butler, Moses Moody, Gary Payton II, Buddy Hield, and even Gui Santos in the wing depth chart. And with Butler averaging 44 minut es in the last two games, there just aren’t many wing minutes left to divvy up, anyway. 短期內,Kerr 並沒有排除在季後賽中讓 Kuminga 上場的可能性,尤其是在對上運動能力極 強的火箭隊這個系列賽中。但他也已經明確表示,Kuminga 在側翼輪替中的順位落後於 But ler、Moses Moody、Gary Payton II、Buddy Hield,甚至是 Gui Santos。而且考慮到 But ler 在過去兩場比賽中平均上場時間高達 44 分鐘,側翼可分配的上場時間本來就所剩無幾 。 In the long term, Kerr has made his call: He isn’t waiting anymore for Kuminga to figure out how to play with Curry and Butler and he doesn’t think it’s wort h giving Kuminga guaranteed minutes just to keep him mentally engaged. If that’ s true now, of course it’ll probably be true this summer, when Kuminga will hit restricted free agency. It’ll be true for as long as Curry, Butler, and Draymo nd Green are the Warriors’ cornerstones — and all three of them are signed for several more years and enormous dollars. 從長遠來看,Kerr 已經做出了他的選擇:他不再等待 Kuminga 去摸索如何與 Curry 和 Bu tler 搭配,也不認為僅僅為了讓 Kuminga 保持投入而給他保證上場時間是值得的。如果現 在是這樣,那麼到了今夏 Kuminga 成為受限自由球員時,情況當然也很可能不會改變。只要 Curry、Butler 和 Draymond Green 仍是勇士的核心——而他們三人都已簽下多年且金額龐 大的合約——這個情況恐怕就會一直持續下去。 This is a triple-down on veteran IQ and veteran willpower. This is accepting the Warriors’ 24-8 finish (including Tuesday’s play-in victory over Memphis) as p roof of Kerr’s concept. This is a full commitment to the players who fit with B utler, Curry, and the rhythm the Warriors have established — and zero time and patience to keep going with any player who doesn’t. 這是對資深球員智慧與意志力的三重押注。這是將勇士隊24勝8敗的收尾成績(包括週二對灰 熊的附加賽勝利)視為 Kerr 球隊理念成功的證明。這代表他們已全面投入於那些能與 But ler、Curry 及球隊既有節奏契合的球員身上——而對於那些無法融入的球員,則不再有任何 時間與耐心繼續等待。 No blowup, just a breaking point. 不是突然爆發,而是到了臨界點。 Multiple team sources said there was no big blowup between Kerr and Kuminga that precipitated this. I’d even say that a loud argument might’ve helped the rela tionship — or at least cleared the air. Why couldn’t Kerr just reduce Kuminga’ s minutes instead of giving him DNPs? Why did he go out of his way to flag this situation? It seems drastic. It feels like a snap reaction. 多位球隊消息人士表示,Kerr 和 Kuminga 之間並沒有發生什麼激烈衝突導致這一切。我甚 至會說,如果真的有一場激烈的爭執,或許還能幫助兩人的關係——至少把話講開了。那為 什麼 Kerr 不只是單純減少 Kuminga 的上場時間,而是直接讓他 DNP?他為什麼還特別去強 調這個情況?這看起來很激烈,也讓人覺得像是一種突然的反應。 But really, this was a long, uncomfortable situation between two pretty stubborn guys overdue to hit a breaking point. And things just broke. 但說到底,這其實是一個長久且不舒服的局面,兩個頗為倔強的人早該達到臨界點,而最終 事情終於崩裂了。 Over the years, Kuminga has tried to play the way Kerr wants, with some very cle ar high points when he was ready to pass, cut, screen, rebound, and run the floo r with force. Right before the ankle injury — and before Butler arrived — was probably Kuminga’s best sustained run as a Warrior, when he averaged 31.1 minut es, 21 points, 6.3 rebounds, and 7.2 free throws a game in December. But that wa s also a losing run for the Warriors. 這些年來,Kuminga 試圖按照 Kerr 的要求打球,並且在某些時刻展現出他準備好傳球、切 入、掩護、爭搶籃板並且積極跑動的高光表現。就在腳踝受傷之前——也就是在 Butler 加 入之前——那可能是 Kuminga 作為勇士隊的一段最佳持續表現,他在 12 月的比賽中場均 31.1 分鐘、21 分、6.3 籃板和 7.2 次罰球。但那段時間對勇士來說也是一段失敗的時期。 And Kerr has tried to accommodate Kuminga’s 1-on-1 skills and look past his mis takes. Before the Butler trade, the Warriors needed as many talented players on the floor as possible. But accepting messy play is never going to be Kerr’s sty le — he won’t hide his preference for simpler plays and savvier players. Kerr 一直試圖適應 Kuminga 的一對一技巧,並且忽略他的錯誤。在 Butler 交易之前,勇 士需要場上有盡可能多的有天賦的球員。但接受混亂的比賽風格永遠不會是 Kerr 的風格— —他不會掩飾自己對更簡單打法和更聰明球員的偏好。 Once the Warriors started winning with Butler, once Curry showed what he could s till do with a complementary superstar next to him, once Brandin Podziemski, Moo dy, Quentin Post, and Santos raised their games to meet this moment, Kuminga see med more and more like a luxury item that the Warriors could not afford to keep putting out there. 一旦勇士隊在有 Butler 的情況下開始贏球,一旦 Curry 展現出與另一位互補的超級巨星搭 檔時仍能發揮的能力,一旦 Brandin Podziemski、Moody、Quentin Post 和 Santos 提升了 自己的表現來迎接這一時刻,Kuminga 看起來越來越像是一個勇士隊無法負擔繼續派上場的 奢侈品。 Kuminga takes quick shots when Kerr wants everybody except Curry or Butler to ma ke sure they’re thoughtful about moving the ball around and exploring every pos sibility for Curry and Butler. And Kuminga can get lost on defense in this switc hing scheme that puts a premium on making the right reads at the right time. Kuminga 在投籃時太過急躁,而 Kerr 希望除了 Curry 或 Butler 之外的每個球員都能仔細 思考如何傳球並為 Curry 和 Butler 創造更多的得分機會。而在防守方面,Kuminga 也容易 在這套需要即時判斷的換防體系中迷失自己,這樣的防守體系強調在正確的時刻做出正確的 判斷。 Has Kuminga been the worst Warriors rotation player during the last month? No. E ven when he’s struggling to fit in, he still can soar for breathtaking dunks or barrel through the lane with soft left-handed finishes. But he’s the Warrior w ith the worst net rating over this period and the player who sometimes just seem s to get in Curry and Butler’s way. Kuminga 在過去一個月內是勇士隊表現最差的輪換球員嗎?不是的。即使他在融入球隊上有 所掙扎時,他仍然能夠完成令人驚嘆的灌籃或用柔和的左手突破終結。可是,在這段時間內 ,他是勇士隊淨勝分最差的球員,有時候他似乎會妨礙到 Curry 和 Butler 的表現。 A few Warriors sources pointed to the Warriors’ huge victory in Memphis on Apri l 1 as a turning point. That’s when Curry scored 52 points and the Warriors put up 134 in maybe their most electric, connected game of the season. And it was a game Kuminga missed with a pelvic bruise. 一些勇士隊的消息人士指出,勇士在 4 月 1 日對灰熊的巨大勝利是轉捩點。那場比賽中, Curry 得到了 52 分,勇士隊以 134 分的高分獲勝,這可能是他們本賽季最具爆發力且最有 默契的比賽。而那場比賽 Kuminga 因為骨盆瘀傷而缺席。 Two games later, in another huge Warriors victory — over Denver at home on the back end of a brutal back-to-back — Curry himself told Kerr that Santos should close the game. Which he did, successfully. And who was the player Santos replac ed? It was Kuminga, of course. 兩場比賽後,在另一場勇士隊的大勝中——在背靠背的艱難賽程中擊敗了丹佛——Curry 親 自告訴 Kerr,Santos 應該在比賽末段上場。結果他確實成功地完成了這個任務。而 Santo s 替換的球員是誰呢?當然是 Kuminga。 Then, going into the regular-season finale, Kerr and the coaching staff knew tha t the Clippers defense was designed to swallow up ball-dominant players like Kum inga. So they drew up a playing chart that didn’t include him. And even though they lost a thrilling game in overtime, the Warriors felt like that was also one of their best and most scintillating performances of the season. 接著,在常規賽最後一場比賽前,Kerr 和教練團知道快艇的防守是專門針對像 Kuminga 這 樣的持球型球員設計的。所以他們制定了一張不包含他的戰術表。儘管最終勇士在加時賽中 輸掉了那場激動人心的比賽,但勇士隊仍然認為那也是他們本賽季最佳且最具魅力的表現之 一。 A role in the Houston series? 在火箭系列賽中會有角色嗎? When Kerr was asked before Tuesday’s game whether he’d spoken to Kuminga about the demotion or his acceptance of it, Kerr just quietly and slowly shook his he ad. 當 Kerr 在週二的比賽前被問到是否和 Kuminga 談過降低順位或他對此的接受度時,Kerr 只是安靜且緩慢地搖了搖頭。 Later, Kerr gave this answer when asked if he’s worried about hurting a young p layer’s confidence with this kind of stark decision: “I don’t factor that in. … That’s regular-season stuff. When you go through the 82-game season, you fa ctor in everything, you try to help everybody along. … When you get to the play offs, everything goes out the window. You just try to win each game.” 稍後,當 Kerr 被問到是否擔心這種突然的決定會傷害到年輕球員的信心時,他給出了這樣 的回答:「我不會考慮這個問題……那是常規賽的事。當你經歷了 82 場比賽,你會考慮一 切,試著幫助每個人……但當你進入季後賽,一切都拋到窗外了。你只是試著贏下每一場比 賽。」 Not surprisingly, Kuminga’s presence also has diminished in the locker room, wh ich he’s exited swiftly without speaking to reporters for the last week, and th e seats on bench, which he’s rarely used lately, preferring to spend his time a mong other players in the tunnel to the locker room during games. Other than his postgame shooting session on the Chase Center court long after Sunday’s game, Kuminga’s basically been a ghost around the team — there, but barely seen, not listened to, and definitely not counted on. 不出所料,Kuminga 在更衣室中的存在感也減少了,他在過去一週內迅速離開更衣室,並未 與記者交談,而在比賽中,他很少坐在板凳上,通常更喜歡與其他球員一起待在通往更衣室 的隧道裡。除了周日比賽後他在 Chase Center 球場進行的投籃練習外,Kuminga 基本上在 球隊周圍像個幽靈一樣——在那裡,但幾乎不被看到、不被聽見,當然也不被依賴。 Multiple Warriors people noted, however, that Kuminga has had several good games against the Rockets and could play a role in this first-round series, which sta rts Sunday in Houston, because he’s the one Warrior who can match and even atta ck Houston’s length and athleticism. 然而,多位勇士隊的消息人士指出,Kuminga 曾在對陣火箭的幾場比賽中表現不錯,並且可 能在這場週日開始的首輪系列賽中發揮作用,因為他是唯一能夠匹配甚至攻擊火箭隊高度和 運動能力的勇士球員。 “He’s getting his work in,” Draymond said of Kuminga on Tuesday night. “That ’s all you can do in that situation is get your work in. And he’ll be meaningf ul for us in that series. I have zero doubt about that. I think the challenge fo r him is to stay mentally engaged, as it is for anyone in that situation. But I have zero doubt in my mind that he’s going to help us in this series. He will, 1,000%.” Draymond 在週二晚間談到 Kuminga 時說:「他在努力工作。這就是在這種情況下你能做的 所有事情,就是繼續努力。他在那個系列賽中會對我們很有幫助,我對此完全沒有疑問。我 認為對他來說的挑戰是保持精神上的投入,這對任何處於這種情況的球員來說都是一樣的。 但我心中毫無疑問,他會在這個系列賽中幫助我們,他一定會,1000%。」 So things could change again. A couple of great moments in this series could rem ind Kerr and everybody else that Kuminga is only 22 and still could project as t he Warriors’ lead star in a post-Curry era. He’s one of Joe Lacob’s favorite players for a reason. 所以情況可能會再次改變。在這個系列賽中,幾個出色的瞬間可能會讓 Kerr 和其他人重新 意識到,Kuminga 只有 22 歲,仍然有可能在後 Curry 時代成為勇士隊的領軍人物。他之所 以是 Joe Lacob 最喜愛的球員之一,是有原因的。 If Kuminga departs this summer, the Warriors would be banking everything on thre e mid-30s players and a supporting cast specifically designed around them. It’s good for now, but it’s fragile. How great will this look without Kuminga in tw o or three years? 如果 Kuminga 在今年夏天離開,勇士隊將把一切寄託在三名年齡在 30 多歲的球員身上,以 及圍繞他們專門設計的支援陣容。這現在是可行的,但也很脆弱。沒有 Kuminga 的情況下, 兩三年後這樣的陣容會是怎樣呢? But I can’t see Kuminga and Kerr finding a lot of common ground from here. I ca n’t see the Warriors wanting to pay Kuminga anything close to market value — p robably about $28 million a year or higher — if the coach doesn’t believe in h im and the stars aren’t sure they want to be on the floor with him. I can’t se e Kuminga wanting to stay here a second longer than it takes to figure out his n ext team. 但我看不出 Kuminga 和 Kerr 從現在開始能達成太多共識。如果教練不信任他,而明星球員 也不確定是否願意和他同場,勇士隊應該不會願意支付 Kuminga 任何接近市場價值的薪水— —大約每年 2800 萬美元或更高。我也看不出 Kuminga 願意再待在這裡一秒鐘,除非他確定 了下一支球隊。 The Warriors hate letting valuable assets go for nothing, and Kuminga is absolut ely still an asset. Restricted free agency is complicated, so Mike Dunleavy woul d have to work through a lot of things to get something worthwhile in return for Kuminga. But the Warriors have had a lot of warning about this pending breakup. So has Kuminga. These last few games have merely been the public notice. 勇士隊不喜歡讓有價值的資產白白流失,而 Kuminga 絕對仍然是個資產。受限自由球員市場 比較複雜,所以 Mike Dunleavy 需要處理很多事情,才能用Kuminga 換來有價值的資產。但 勇士隊對這次即將到來的分手已經有了很多警示,Kuminga 也是如此。這些最後幾場比賽不 過是公開的通知而已。 - 看起來季中受傷的不是時候,導致沒有時間磨合試錯了,苦命真的好苦QQ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 101.12.154.179 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1744940987.A.A37.html

04/18 09:50, 1天前 , 1F
QQ
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04/18 09:51, 1天前 , 2F
可憐苦命,又要花一段時間拚身價了
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04/18 09:51, 1天前 , 3F
[情報] 嘴綠談苦命:他會在對火箭的比賽做出貢獻
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04/18 09:52, 1天前 , 4F
KD 4爺普洱圍巾 看完這些功臣下場 苦命還是快走吧
04/18 09:52, 4F

04/18 09:52, 1天前 , 5F
附加賽前一晚,苦命:教練希望我季後賽能像泰坦一樣
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04/18 09:52, 1天前 , 6F
離開或許才是選項
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04/18 09:52, 1天前 , 7F
。kerr:懂了
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04/18 09:54, 1天前 , 8F
好慘 球隊贏了 沒上場也要被拿出來討論
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04/18 09:55, 1天前 , 9F
#勇士養的
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04/18 09:55, 1天前 , 10F
快走吧對兩邊都好
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04/18 09:56, 1天前 , 11F
DNP很值得討論啊
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04/18 09:56, 1天前 , 12F
賣了賣了
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04/18 09:57, 1天前 , 13F
現在未來不能兼得.咖哩再拿一冠是勇士目前重要事
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04/18 09:57, 1天前 , 14F
沒時間讓苦命長大了
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04/18 09:58, 1天前 , 15F
贏球治百病,只要會贏球誰上都無所謂
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04/18 09:58, 1天前 , 16F
換一個高大側翼或中鋒好嗎
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04/18 09:59, 1天前 , 17F
小球真的….
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04/18 09:59, 1天前 , 18F
雖然吉巴是勇士很棒的補強,但碰到高大鋒線還是打
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04/18 09:59, 1天前 , 19F
不進去,勇士還是要另外補高側翼
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04/18 09:59, 1天前 , 20F
苦命應該走定了 唉
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04/18 09:59, 1天前 , 21F
勇士就一定要找一個隊友霸凌就對了?跟國中的8+9一
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04/18 10:00, 1天前 , 23F
苦命QQ
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04/18 10:00, 1天前 , 24F
又要賣了 疑 怎麼說又呢
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04/18 10:00, 1天前 , 25F
這篇故事編的蠻順的,就說反正kerr就不喜歡苦的打
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04/18 10:01, 1天前 , 26F
法,就算他表現再好也一樣,對火箭場均50他也還是
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04/18 10:01, 1天前 , 27F
不喜歡,季賽會給你試錯,季後賽就是棄用
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04/18 10:01, 1天前 , 28F
快艇真的有針對苦命設計戰術,難怪登登會問苦命
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04/18 10:03, 1天前 , 29F
吉巴35了 是能再打幾年 綠咖哩退休後是能用吉巴建
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04/18 10:03, 1天前 , 30F
隊逆
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04/18 10:03, 1天前 , 31F
每次都害我想到金塊那個前總管
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04/18 10:03, 1天前 , 32F
要馬龍學勇士練年輕人
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04/18 10:04, 1天前 , 33F
去討論苦命好不好,影響多少勝負,沒有意義,kerr
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04/18 10:04, 1天前 , 34F
不喜歡,就這樣,他直接抹殺掉一個年輕球員的全部
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04/18 10:04, 1天前 , 35F
如果覺得苦命也不配當咖哩退休後未來 那就趕緊放他
04/18 10:04, 35F

04/18 10:04, 1天前 , 36F
努力
04/18 10:04, 36F

04/18 10:04, 1天前 , 37F
走 不要像智將摧殘到沒價才丟出來
04/18 10:04, 37F

04/18 10:04, 1天前 , 38F
太苦了
04/18 10:04, 38F

04/18 10:06, 1天前 , 39F
命真苦
04/18 10:06, 39F
還有 491 則推文
還有 1 段內文
04/18 17:38, 1天前 , 531F
賽我們要砍你時間...這裡有難度更高的小球五號,你
04/18 17:38, 531F

04/18 17:38, 1天前 , 532F
來做做看! 這樣?
04/18 17:38, 532F

04/18 17:39, 1天前 , 533F
還沒分手 女友就到處跟別人說彼此不適合嘻嘻
04/18 17:39, 533F

04/18 17:39, 1天前 , 534F
快逃吧
04/18 17:39, 534F

04/18 17:39, 1天前 , 535F
一直蠻好奇,如果吉巴打2號,苦命打三號有搞頭嗎?
04/18 17:39, 535F

04/18 17:40, 1天前 , 536F
這樣一樣可以打小球,但身高又不會太矮
04/18 17:40, 536F

04/18 17:46, 23小時前 , 537F
當然沒搞頭 還有一堆有外線有腦袋的後衛幹嘛這樣擺
04/18 17:46, 537F

04/18 17:46, 23小時前 , 538F
這兩個人同時打三四號的時候都解決不了的進攻問題
04/18 17:46, 538F

04/18 17:47, 23小時前 , 539F
打二三號只會更嚴重而已
04/18 17:47, 539F

04/18 17:47, 23小時前 , 540F
要流動沒流動要速度沒速度要外線沒外線
04/18 17:47, 540F

04/18 17:47, 23小時前 , 541F
你這樣放四五號要放誰? 魯尼跟嘴綠? 誰來投外線?
04/18 17:47, 541F

04/18 17:50, 23小時前 , 542F
關於球商,一個從小做家事長大的跟婚後才開始做家
04/18 17:50, 542F

04/18 17:50, 23小時前 , 543F
事的另一半說:結婚三年多了,你連大掃除要做哪些
04/18 17:50, 543F

04/18 17:51, 23小時前 , 544F
事都搞不清楚,這個家商太差了!...... 我是不敢也
04/18 17:51, 544F

04/18 17:51, 23小時前 , 545F
不會這樣說啦!
04/18 17:51, 545F

04/18 18:39, 23小時前 , 546F
現在三老時間線一樣,苦命就跟普爾一樣簽換吧
04/18 18:39, 546F

04/18 19:14, 22小時前 , 547F
沒辦法,當你同位置上是另一個S級巨星就是相形見絀
04/18 19:14, 547F

04/18 19:14, 22小時前 , 548F
,而且要說勇士真的完全沒給機會也說不過去啦,球
04/18 19:14, 548F

04/18 19:14, 22小時前 , 549F
商低要在勇士發光真的難
04/18 19:14, 549F

04/18 19:32, 22小時前 , 550F
分析一堆都沒有用,這篇就是指出是curry 要santos,
04/18 19:32, 550F

04/18 19:32, 22小時前 , 551F
不要kuminga 的,苦命可以準備下一站了。
04/18 19:32, 551F

04/18 19:44, 22小時前 , 552F
有Podz Moody Post 苦命離開又怎樣 苦命是啥巨核心?
04/18 19:44, 552F

04/18 20:16, 21小時前 , 553F
樓上好好笑,勇士輸冠軍賽的時候都是因為3號被打爆
04/18 20:16, 553F

04/18 20:16, 21小時前 , 554F
過了幾年大家記憶就又忘了
04/18 20:16, 554F

04/18 20:22, 21小時前 , 555F
真的很苦命
04/18 20:22, 555F

04/18 21:43, 20小時前 , 556F
看最近比賽+這陣容感覺季後賽也走不遠,希望被打臉
04/18 21:43, 556F

04/18 22:05, 19小時前 , 557F
78球商太高 已經改變勇士體系 季後賽開始ㄧ定會變
04/18 22:05, 557F

04/18 22:05, 19小時前 , 558F
成78持球 咖喱後半專心投射
04/18 22:05, 558F

04/18 22:05, 19小時前 , 559F
未來就是78體系去帶領勇士小球
04/18 22:05, 559F

04/18 22:05, 19小時前 , 560F
感覺一般賽季在藏招啊
04/18 22:05, 560F

04/18 23:44, 18小時前 , 561F
就是剛好到季後賽了,苦命就更沒有上場的空間
04/18 23:44, 561F

04/19 07:59, 9小時前 , 562F
差苦命就完全體 可惜沒時間等他
04/19 07:59, 562F

04/19 07:59, 9小時前 , 563F
其他木迪舔哥該打出來的都打出來了
04/19 07:59, 563F

04/19 10:50, 6小時前 , 564F
說單純是kerr不喜歡的,真的該多看看比賽,苦的比
04/19 10:50, 564F

04/19 10:50, 6小時前 , 565F
賽內容真的盡顯球商等級,不適合當一個建隊核心,
04/19 10:50, 565F

04/19 10:50, 6小時前 , 566F
尤其是苦自己一直覺得自己該是個核心的情況下。
04/19 10:50, 566F

04/19 12:38, 5小時前 , 567F
真的有給很多機會啦 比木笛機會多很多 但木笛現在
04/19 12:38, 567F

04/19 12:38, 5小時前 , 568F
站穩 他沒有很明顯是誰的問題了
04/19 12:38, 568F

04/19 14:43, 3小時前 , 569F
有全能升級版苦命,的確壓抑到苦命出場時間
04/19 14:43, 569F

04/19 16:09, 1小時前 , 570F
勇士確實是很強調球商的球隊
04/19 16:09, 570F
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