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[外絮] 黑人球評: 嘴綠打球很髒 別拿種族議題遮掩

看板NBA (美國籃球)作者 (usmarine2008)時間18小時前 (2025/05/10 10:05), 編輯推噓372(386推 14噓 199→)
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Emmanuel Acho是黑人球評 發言登上reddit熱門 他的影片逐字稿 Draymond Green, you're not an angry black man. You're just a dirty basketball player. The truth is the angry black man agenda is a real thing throughout the course of society. For those that don't know, I wrote a book, a New York Times bestselling book, and chapter five of the book is called The Mythical Me, The Angry Black Man. So I have given more to this conversation than tweets. I have given more to this conversation than an Instagram post. I have dedicated months, if not years of my life to this conversation. The angry black man is a legitimate thing. 嘴綠你不是什麼「憤怒的黑人」，你只是一個打球動作很髒的球員而已。事實是， 「憤怒的黑人」這個標籤在社會上確實存在，也是真實的議題。如果你不知道， 我曾經寫過1本書，而且是紐約的暢銷書，其中第5章就叫做《神話中的我：憤怒的黑人》 所以，相較於只發幾篇推特或IG貼文，我對這個議題投入了更多，不只是幾句話， 而是花了好幾個月，甚至好幾年的時間深入探討這個問題。 「憤怒的黑人」這個形象是真實存在的。 What I will submit to y'all is this very simple picture. LeBron James, I believe, was cradling Gisele on the cover of Vogue, right? Many people did not realize that this was subjecting LeBron to the angry black man myth because King Kong was seen doing the same thing, holding this damsel in distress. Why is LeBron James look angry? Meanwhile, this white woman Gisele looks all nice and beautiful and quaint. This is being subjected to the myth of the angry black man. Just to allow y'all some further education, a term that was really coined and really started to exist more so in society dating back to 1915. https://i.imgur.com/c0iMyjz.png
我想給大家看一張很簡單的照片。LeBron James，我記得他曾在《Vogue》雜誌封面上抱 著 Gisele，對吧？很多人沒意識到，這其實就是把 LeBron套上了「憤怒的黑人」的迷思 ，因為金剛（King Kong）也曾被描繪成這樣，抱著一個待救的柔弱女子。 為什麼 LeBron James 看起來那麼兇？而旁邊的白人女性 Gisele 卻是一副溫柔美麗、典 雅的樣子？這就是被套上「憤怒黑人」迷思的例子。跟大家科普一下，這個詞彙真正被創 造出來、並在社會上比較流行，大概要追溯到1915年左右。 Draymond Green, you're not the angry black man because you decide to punch people in the face, decide to kick people in the face, decide to punch teammates. So many things that I will bring on the screen so you can display. You step on Sabonis, you got the most technical fouls and flagrant fouls since you entered the league. 嘴綠你不是因為你動不動就朝人臉上揮拳、踹人、扁隊友，才被說是「憤怒的黑人」。 太多例子了，我等等直接秀在螢幕上給大家看。你踩 Sabonis，你進聯盟以來技術犯規跟 惡性犯規次數最多。 Draymond Green, you're not an angry black man. You're just a dirty basketball player. That's what we believe you to be. But what I cannot stand is when people try to hide behind legitimate racial issues in society because there are legitimate racial issues in society. There are three black men currently sitting up at this desk. Several times throughout the course of our lives, we have been subjected to the racial stereotype of being angry black men. 嘴綠你不是「憤怒的黑人」，你就是個打球髒的球員。我們就是這麼看你的。但我最受不 了的是，有些人明明自己有問題，卻想躲在社會上真實存在的種族議題後面當擋箭牌，因 為這些種族議題是千真萬確的。 現在坐在這台上的就有三個黑人。在我們的人生當中，好幾次都被貼上「憤怒黑人」這種 種族刻板印象的標籤。 But Draymond Green, because you hit Naz Reid in the face or because you hit LeBron James in the groin, because you step on Sabonis, because you hit VanVleet, because you punch your own teammate, Jordan Poole, we're not suggesting you're an angry black man. 可是嘴綠你打 Naz Reid 的臉、打 LeBron James 的腹股溝、踩 Sabonis、打 VanVleet 、扁自己隊友 Jordan Poole，我們並不是因為這些行為就說你是「憤怒的黑人」。 We're simply suggesting you might be a dirty basketball player because you do what nobody else in the NBA does,at least not as frequently or as consistently as other people in the NBA. So I do not like when he suggests a term that is a very legitimate term in society because ultimately what it does is it undermines the potency of that term when people legitimately bring it up. 我們只是覺得你可能是個打球髒的球員，因為你做的那些事，NBA裡沒幾個人會做，至少 沒人像你這麼頻繁、這麼一貫地做。所以我很不爽他拿一個社會上這麼嚴肅的詞彙來亂用 ，因為這最終會削弱這個詞彙在真正被需要時的力道和嚴重性。 網友留言 https://i.imgur.com/c5VStxw.png
I liked what he said about conflating the two ideas. Dray get techs and flagrants for smacking people upside the head and stomping on their chests, not because the refs have a racist agenda against him. It is absolutely true that there are racist people out there who think that about him, and that’s a very real societal issue. But that’s not why you get techs for punching people in the head. 我很喜歡他提到「混淆兩個概念」這點。嘴綠之所以吃到技術犯規和惡意犯規， 是因為他打人、踩人胸口，不是因為裁判有種族歧視他。 確實有些種族主義者會用那種角度去看他，這當然是個很真實的社會問題。 但打別人頭部吃技術犯規，跟這件事（種族歧視）是兩回事。 This right here. Unfortunately, this man's lack of self awareness wouldn't even let him consider the techs and flagrants are a direct consequence of his own actions on the courct. Never in a million years would he think he's getting off easy. 完全同意。可惜的是，這個人完全沒有自覺，根本不會去想自己吃技術犯規和惡意犯規 ，是因為他在場上的行為。他連做夢都不會覺得自己其實已經被從輕處罰了。 備註 原來這個才是憤怒黑人的例子 https://i.imgur.com/c0iMyjz.png
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05/10 10:06, 18小時前 , 1F
大實話
05/10 10:06, 1F
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05/10 10:07, 18小時前 , 2F
這也只有黑人球評能說
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05/10 10:07, 18小時前 , 3F
勇迷要生氣了
05/10 10:07, 3F
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05/10 10:07, 18小時前 , 4F
所以憤怒的黑人是什麼意思
05/10 10:07, 4F
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05/10 10:07, 18小時前 , 5F
實話
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05/10 10:07, 18小時前 , 6F
這才是真正有讀書的人
05/10 10:07, 6F
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05/10 10:08, 18小時前 , 7F
勇勇出乃玩
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05/10 10:08, 18小時前 , 8F
正確
05/10 10:08, 8F
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05/10 10:08, 18小時前 , 9F
那個跨人的被打剛好而已
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05/10 10:08, 18小時前 , 10F
確實
05/10 10:08, 10F
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05/10 10:08, 18小時前 , 11F
講的蠻好的 果然是出過書的人
05/10 10:08, 11F
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05/10 10:09, 18小時前 , 12F
意思就是黑人看起來很兇很容易生氣，其實就是種刻板
05/10 10:09, 12F
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05/10 10:09, 18小時前 , 13F
印象
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05/10 10:09, 18小時前 , 14F
確實
05/10 10:09, 14F
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05/10 10:09, 18小時前 , 15F
金狗貝被忽略了
05/10 10:09, 15F
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05/10 10:09, 18小時前 , 16F
40
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05/10 10:09, 18小時前 , 17F
嘴綠可以去跟皇馬的維尼當結拜兄弟
05/10 10:09, 17F
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05/10 10:10, 18小時前 , 18F
論述合理
05/10 10:10, 18F
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05/10 10:10, 18小時前 , 19F
確實 黑人批判黑人 沒得吵了
05/10 10:10, 19F
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05/10 10:10, 18小時前 , 20F
這位又要被出征了
05/10 10:10, 20F
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05/10 10:11, 18小時前 , 21F
講得超好
05/10 10:11, 21F
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05/10 10:11, 18小時前 , 22F
實話有料
05/10 10:11, 22F
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05/10 10:11, 18小時前 , 23F
死是死 七孔流血是七孔流血 不可以混為一談
05/10 10:11, 23F
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05/10 10:12, 18小時前 , 24F
少了嘴綠咖喱就不會奪冠 勿嘴
05/10 10:12, 24F
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05/10 10:12, 18小時前 , 25F
昨天說球迷種族歧視也是嘴綠在靠夭 那個球迷也黑人
05/10 10:12, 25F
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05/10 10:12, 18小時前 , 26F
蛹迷準備出征
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05/10 10:12, 18小時前 , 27F
合理
05/10 10:12, 27F
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05/10 10:12, 18小時前 , 28F
髒綠UCCU
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05/10 10:12, 18小時前 , 29F
就偷換概念
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05/10 10:13, 18小時前 , 30F
他真的超噁
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05/10 10:13, 18小時前 , 31F
有讀過書的
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05/10 10:13, 18小時前 , 32F
確實
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05/10 10:13, 18小時前 , 33F
嘴綠敢嘴回去嗎
05/10 10:13, 33F
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05/10 10:13, 18小時前 , 34F
合理，NBA一堆黑人，也沒幾個像他那樣動手
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05/10 10:13, 18小時前 , 35F
實話 嘴綠又要生氣了
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05/10 10:13, 18小時前 , 36F
挺勇士但嘴綠這種傢伙讓人挺不下去 說自己不骯髒
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噓
05/10 10:13, 18小時前 , 37F
這人發言也很髒
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05/10 10:13, 18小時前 , 38F
但行為打球就是骯髒 言行不一的最好範例
05/10 10:13, 38F
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05/10 10:14, 18小時前 , 39F
大實話 這些話還只能黑人說
05/10 10:14, 39F
還有 520 則推文
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05/10 14:43, 14小時前 , 560F
還放這種球員在場上根本未爆彈
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05/10 14:44, 14小時前 , 561F
讚讚！嘴綠下去啦！！
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05/10 14:47, 14小時前 , 562F
真的 這人是不是拉基 基本上跟他的膚色沒關係
05/10 14:47, 562F
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05/10 14:49, 14小時前 , 563F
查了一下作者 前NFL球員 TA奧斯丁分校體育心理碩士
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05/10 14:57, 13小時前 , 564F
蛹蛹出來做事啊 混哦
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05/10 15:09, 13小時前 , 565F
大實話
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05/10 15:15, 13小時前 , 566F
架脖子踩胸踢蛋砸蛋盪鞦韆 惡劣到不行
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05/10 15:20, 13小時前 , 567F
實話實說
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05/10 15:22, 13小時前 , 568F
說得好
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05/10 15:24, 13小時前 , 569F
雀食
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05/10 15:31, 13小時前 , 570F
蛹咪不喜歡這篇
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05/10 15:34, 13小時前 , 571F
說的太好了
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05/10 15:39, 13小時前 , 572F
你愛說實話
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05/10 16:04, 12小時前 , 573F
綠師父的拳腳派死忠鐵粉很討厭這篇,都來按噓哈
05/10 16:04, 573F
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05/10 16:11, 12小時前 , 574F
我們勇迷討厭嘴綠跟zaza 的也不少好嗎 多希望可愛
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05/10 16:11, 12小時前 , 575F
當時沒事
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05/10 16:13, 12小時前 , 576F
其實如果Green是白人，受到的譴責會完全不一樣
05/10 16:13, 576F
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05/10 16:22, 12小時前 , 577F
已獲得認證勾勾
05/10 16:22, 577F
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05/10 16:39, 12小時前 , 578F
完全是大實話
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05/10 16:42, 12小時前 , 579F
說得好
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噓
05/10 16:49, 12小時前 , 580F
髒綠超噁
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05/10 16:58, 11小時前 , 581F
確實
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05/10 17:50, 11小時前 , 582F
說什麼實話
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05/10 17:57, 10小時前 , 583F
確實
05/10 17:57, 583F
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05/10 18:14, 10小時前 , 584F
為啥如果嘴率是白人會不一樣像GraysonAllen有較好
05/10 18:14, 584F
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05/10 18:19, 10小時前 , 585F
憤怒的黑人
05/10 18:19, 585F
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05/10 18:22, 10小時前 , 586F
有料的黑人
05/10 18:22, 586F
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05/10 18:22, 10小時前 , 587F
又髒又
05/10 18:22, 587F
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05/10 18:23, 10小時前 , 588F
蛹迷要生氣了喔
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05/10 18:26, 10小時前 , 589F
講的有夠好 推
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05/10 19:36, 9小時前 , 590F
嘴綠真的不試試往WWE發展嗎
05/10 19:36, 590F
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05/10 20:15, 8小時前 , 591F
推 「這最終會削弱這個詞彙在真正被需要時的力道和
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05/10 20:15, 8小時前 , 592F
嚴重性」
05/10 20:15, 592F
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05/10 20:53, 7小時前 , 593F
要口條有口條 要出處有出處 要道理有道理 嘴綠你吞
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05/10 20:54, 7小時前 , 594F
了吧
05/10 20:54, 594F
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05/10 21:17, 7小時前 , 595F
不要這麼中肯好嗎 不過這樣講有人會哭cc
05/10 21:17, 595F
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05/10 21:26, 7小時前 , 596F
說得太好了 在那邊扯什麼種族歧視 他打球就是髒
05/10 21:26, 596F
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05/10 22:03, 6小時前 , 597F
這次是黑人說的～有些犯規真的太重
05/10 22:03, 597F
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05/10 23:02, 5小時前 , 598F
說什麼大實話
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05/10 23:57, 4小時前 , 599F
辣雞綠
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