[花邊] Haliburton賽後訪問
Q: Smaller shoes for the next game?
問：下一場比賽會穿小一點的鞋嗎？
Hali: No. Hell no.
Hali： 不可能，絕對不可能。
Q: Did you think it was a three in the moment?
問：當下你以為那球是三分球嗎？
Hali: Uh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. But quickly in my celebration, somebody said it
was a two, and yeah, then my focus just became winning it—how we could win the
game. I thought we did a great job of sticking with it in overtime, just making
big play after big play. You know, obviously, Aaron’s heroics—I mean, I hope t
hey’re talked about—they can’t be talked about enough. He was amazing down th
e stretch. Obi had a big putback dunk. We just had a lot of different guys contr
ibute, make plays. Yeah, just really proud of our group.
Hali： 呃，對，我當下真的以為是三分球。但我在慶祝時，有人馬上說那是兩分，所以我
的注意力就轉移到怎麼贏球上。我覺得我們在延長賽堅持得很好，一個接一個打出關鍵表現
。很明顯，Aaron 的英勇表現——希望大家都有注意到，因為這真的吹再高都不為過。他在
最後階段真的太棒了。Obi 那記補扣也很關鍵。我們有很多人站出來、貢獻、製造機會。我
真的很為我們這個團隊感到驕傲。
Q: When did the choke idea come to you in the moment?
問：你什麼時候想到要做 choke（掐脖）手勢的？
Hali: I mean, I wasn’t like plotted on it or anything. Everybody wanted me to d
o it like last year at some different point. But it’s just got to feel right. A
nd it felt right at the time. If I would’ve known it was a two, I would not hav
e done it. So I think I might’ve wasted it. If I do it again, people might say
I’m like aura farming, so I’m not—I don’t plan on using it again.
Hali： 其實我也不是早就計畫好的。很多人去年就叫我某個時候做這個手勢，但這種事得
要當下感覺對才行，那時候我覺得對。如果我當時知道那球是兩分，我就絕對不會做。所以
我現在有點覺得浪費了這次機會。如果我再做一次，大家可能會說我在玩弄氣氛，所以我不
打算再用了。
Q: What’s it like to watch Nesmith do what he did?
問：看到 Nesmith 那樣表現是什麼感覺？
Hali: Yeah, special, man. I think Double A works his tail off. Each shot that he
made just kept giving us more confidence that we could really win this game. He
was really big for us. To do what he did today while also having to guard Jalen
Brunson for probably 30 minutes is very difficult to do. Like I said, what Aaro
n Nesmith did today can’t be talked about enough. Really proud of his effort an
d our group’s effort.
Hali： 太特別了，兄弟。我覺得 Double A（Nesmith）真的拼命努力。他投進的每一球都
讓我們更相信自己能贏下這場比賽。他對我們來說太關鍵了。能在今天有那樣表現，還得去
防守 Jalen Brunson 大概 30 分鐘，真的非常困難。就像我說的，今天 Aaron Nesmith 的
表現真的值得大吹特吹。我真的為他的努力，也為整個團隊的努力感到驕傲。
Q: When your shot at the end of regulation goes off the rim and up in the air, p
art of you think it’s going in?
問：你正規時間最後那球彈框後飛上去，當時你覺得它會進嗎？
Hali: Honestly, no. I KNEW it was in—I’m like, “It’s going in.” It just fel
t like it got stuck up there, though. Honestly, when it went in, I was like—I t
hought my eyes might have been deceiving me in the moment. But it felt good when
it left my hand. I thought it was going to go in. It felt like the ball was up
there for eternity. Just a special moment.
Hali： 老實說，我當下就確定「這球會進」，但它飛上去後就好像停在空中一樣。那球進
了之後我有點懷疑自己是不是看錯了。但球離手的感覺很好，我當時就覺得它應該會進。它
在空中像是停了一輩子一樣。那是一個很特別的時刻。
Q: You guys have talked about this a lot over the past couple weeks—now making
this kind of comeback like this, what is the routine about you guys that allows
you to keep doing stuff nobody else has been able to do?
問：這幾週你們經常談到這點——現在又完成這樣的逆轉，你們到底是靠什麼維持這種表現
，做到其他球隊做不到的事？
Hali: Yeah. I mean, I would like to not keep being in this situation. But I thin
k we’re just a group that has spent a lot of time with each other. The front of
fice’s decision to keep the majority of our group together—basically our whole
team together essentially after last year—I think that was really big. We’ve
been through everything together.
Hali： 我們當然不希望老是陷入這種落後局面。但我們是一支非常了解彼此的隊伍，這群
人一起經歷了很多。管理層選擇在去年賽季後把大部分成員留下——其實基本上整支球隊都
留了下來——我覺得這是很關鍵的決定。
We’ve been on big losing skids, big winning runs, had to win in so many differe
nt ways. So many guys had to step up and make big shots. I think in the NBA, you
don’t see a ton of continuity from year to year, right? Many teams are changin
g. Our front office did a great job of keeping this group together, and that giv
es us confidence in each other.
我們一起經歷過連敗、連勝，也以各種方式贏球。很多人都在關鍵時刻站出來。在 NBA，很
少有球隊每年都保持穩定，大多都變動很大。管理層做得很好，讓這群人持續在一起，這讓
我們彼此更有信心。
We feel like we know where everybody’s going to be. We have high expectations f
or each other, but we also hold each other accountable at the same time, and I t
hink that’s important, because people joke about us and call us like a college
team a little bit because of how close we are, how we’ve been together, and we
’re all super young. But it’s special. I love playing with these guys and look
forward to keeping this run going.
我們彼此間很有默契。我們對彼此有很高的期望，也會互相督促，這很重要。有人會開玩笑
說我們像一支大學球隊，因為我們感情太好了，又年輕。但這讓這支球隊很特別。我真的很
喜歡和這些隊友一起打球，也希望能把這段旅程繼續走下去。
Q: You’re obviously a student of history. You know about the choke gesture. How
much do you know about where that came from—the game where Reggie did it and w
hat happened?
問：顯然你很熟悉歷史，也知道「掐脖」這個手勢。你了解 Reggie 當年做這手勢的比賽背
景和發生了什麼嗎？
Hali: I’ve seen that Winning Time doc probably like 50 times growing up. I know
they didn’t win the series, so I would not like to repeat that. But I think th
at was a historic moment. That was more him versus Spike—kind of a one-on-one.
That just felt like it was to everybody, but to him too. I wanted him to see it
more than anything.
I think it’s really cool to continue to make my own history and this group to m
ake our own history, while also showing respect and love to the ones who came be
for us. Definitely a special moment. Something I won’t forget.
Hali： 我大概看過《Winning Time》紀錄片五十遍了吧？我知道那年他們沒贏下系列賽，
我不想重演那段歷史。不過那是個非常經典的時刻，更像是 Reggie 和 Spike 的一對一對
決。雖然我做那個手勢是對著全場，但其實也是對著他做的，我更想讓他（Reggie）看到。
能夠在寫下我們自己的歷史的同時，向所有來替我們應援的人致上敬意，我覺得這非常。這是一
個特別的時刻，我會永遠記住。
Q: In the last round, Reggie was like, “Next game, coming back in the fourth qu
arter,” and he said, “This is the best fourth-quarter closer in the game right
here.” Is he right—or is that maybe you right away?
問：上一輪 Reggie 說：「下一場第四節會反超」，還說「這是聯盟最強的第四節終結者。
」他說的是對的嗎？還是你會說，其實那是你？
Hali: It’s whoever you want it to be.
Hali： 你覺得是誰就是誰。
Q: Ty, wanted to ask you about something boring—like your guys’ pace.
問：Ty，我想問一個有點無聊的問題——關於你們的比賽節奏。
Hali: That’s not boring. I love talking about that! Come on.
Hali： 那才不無聊，我超愛談這個的！來吧。
Q: To comeback at 17, do you think that relentless pressure wore them down a lit
tle bit?
問：落後 17 分還能逆轉，你覺得你們持續的壓迫讓他們在體能上有點扛不住了嗎？
Hali: I think maybe you could say that. They missed a couple free throws there d
own the stretch, had a couple short misses at the end. I’m sure for coaches’ s
ake, if coach speaks, yeah, the “wear-down effect” was in full effect right th
ere.
Hali： 我覺得你可以這麼說。他們最後幾分鐘錯失了幾個罰球，還有一些出手投短了沒進
。如果讓教練來說，他大概會說「疲勞打擊」確實產生了作用。
But I think the way you have to approach this game and this series is that it’s
going to be a seven-game series that can be played in 13 days, right? That’s h
ow we’re approaching it. Take it one day at a time. Just trying to wear on thes
e guys as much as we can.
但我認為，你必須要認知到，這會是一個必須在 13 天內打滿 7 場的系列戰，我們自己是
這樣看待這個系列賽的。我們必須一天撐過一天、一步一步走，盡可能讓他們施加壓力，能
多耗一點體力是一點。
Their starters play a lot of minutes. With some foul trouble, some other guys ha
d to play more time, and they had a lineup out there that probably hasn’t playe
d together a ton, so it was really effective from there.
他們先發球員上場時間很長，如果有人遇到犯規麻煩，其他人就得分擔更多時間，有時候場
上的組合可能彼此不是那麼熟悉，這就變成我們的優勢。
We’ve just got to do a better job. But I think it’s hard for me to discredit a
nd to say the wear-down effect wasn’t there. I think from everything you’re se
eing, that’s a part of it—and a part of our identity. How can we wear on teams
for 48 minutes? Picking up full court, offensive pressure, getting downhill, pl
aying fast.
我們還是有進步空間。但說實話，我很難否認疲勞等因素對比賽沒有影響力，這確實是比賽
的一部分——這是我們球隊的特色。我們就是要在 48 分鐘內不斷給對手壓力，從全場壓迫
、防守、快攻、推進節奏。
We did a good job offensively of playing our style. They went on a little run an
d got a pretty big lead. Pascal had the and-one on KAT, and we just kept coming,
kept coming. That was big—making extra plays, getting extra possessions with o
ffensive rebounds, or finishing, getting rebounds on that side. All big down the
stretch.
So yeah, for Coach Carlisle’s sake, we’ll say the wear-down effect was in full
effect.
我們打出了我們的進攻風格。他們曾拉出一波，領先蠻多。Pascal 在 KAT 面前打成 2+1，
但我們就是一直追、一直追。靠的是製造額外機會、進攻籃板，或是守下對方的進攻。這些
在最後時刻都很關鍵。
所以，為了 Carlisle 教練，我們就說「疲勞打擊」真的發揮作用了吧。
Q: You have shot three of these shots down—the game winner, game tying shots at
the buzzer—What’s do you like about to be in those moments that you might be
on the path of success?
問：你已經投進好幾個致勝球、追平球了——對於能參與這些關鍵時刻你有什麼想法？這對
你成功的路上意味著什麼？
Hali: I think every person who enjoys basketball—or probably everybody in here
—imagined at one point they’d be an NBA player. The biggest thing when growing
up, is that everyone’s on the playground or in the driveway or gym by themselv
es, doing the countdown: 5-4-3-2-1… shooting it. And if you miss, nobody’s aro
und, so just put more time on the clock right?
Hali： 我覺得每個喜歡籃球的人——甚至可能在這個聯盟的每個人，小時候想過成為 NBA
球員的人——每個人小時候都會在操場、車道、或體育館裡，自己默默倒數：5、4、3、2、
1……然後出手。如果投不進，反正沒人看到，自己偷偷再加幾秒對吧。
I think for me, I was always encouraged to have an imagination. Running down the
hallway in my childhood home, pretending there was a hoop. The biggest thing fo
r me is that I already have the confidence to take the shot in the moment—but I
get that confidence from my group.
我一直被鼓勵要有想像力。我會在家裡的走廊裡跑步，假裝那裡有籃框。對我來說，最重要
的是我本身有信心在那個時刻出手——但這種信心來自我的隊友。
My group wants me to take those shots. My coaching staff wants me to take those
shots. Our organization wants me to take those shots, I think now even the fans
want me to take those shots. Everybody is living and dying with it, and that giv
es me a lot of confidence.
我的隊友、教練團、球團，甚至現在連球迷都希望我投這些關鍵球。每個人都與我同在，接
受我出手的結果，這給我極大的信心。
To be honest with you, like when I got traded here, we weren’t very good. So we
would be in these moments and I’d have to take these shots, and I would miss t
hem, and nobody would care. Maybe Pacers fans would. But we weren’t very good,
not a playoff team or anything. I feel like that was a kind of baptism by fire a
lmost, and now we’re in situations where they mattered in a bigger scale and I
think that’s important for me, and I really think that experience is the best t
eacher for me, and I will have that as the time went on.
老實說，我剛被交易來這裡的時候，我們戰績不好。當我們處於這樣的落後狀況，我必須去
投這些球，但當時就算我失手了，老實說根本沒什麼人在乎。也許只有溜馬球迷會在意。當
時我們不是季後賽球隊，那段時間就像一場烈火洗禮。而現在這些時刻變得重要了，這對我
來說意義重大。我真的相信經驗是最好的老師，這會隨著時間累積下去。
Q: You and Jalen obviously have a lot of recent history—FIBA World Cup, last ye
ar’s playoffs, the WWE ring stare-down, and now back here in the conference fin
als. What does it mean to have a game like this against him?
問：你和 Jalen 最近有很多交集——世界盃、去年的季後賽、WWE 的對峙，現在又在東決
碰頭。能和他打一場這樣的比賽，你有什麼想法？
Hali: He’s a great player. I love competing against him. I know maybe I’m not
supposed to say that, like we’re friends, but I love competing against that guy
. I just love competing in general.
The storied rivalry between the Pacers and Knicks is really cool, but where we a
re right now—it’s like, how much does it really matter?
Hali： 他是個很棒的球員。我很享受跟他對抗。我知道我現在可能不該這麼說，但我們私
下是朋友，而我真的很喜歡和他交手。我就是喜歡競爭。
溜馬跟尼克的歷史對戰很酷，但現在這個時刻——我們是在寫新的歷史。
We’re writing our own stories right now. It’s a special time—something tha’
ll be remembered by Pacers and Knicks fans moving forward. Really special to com
pete against him, and just to compete in general.
我們正在寫自己的故事。這是一段特別的時光，將會被溜馬和尼克的球迷銘記。和他交手真
的很特別，我真的很享受整個競爭的過程。
Q: When the team was down—did you have a message to the team when you were down
?
問：當球隊落後時，你有對隊友說什麼嗎？
Hali: When we got down like 16 or 17, it was: let’s get it to 10, let’s get it
to 5. Just try to walk them down. There’s no 17-point shot. I think we did a g
reat job of chipping away, chipping away—and good things happened for us.
Hali： 當我們落後 16、17 分時，我說的是：我們先追到 10分差，再追到 5分差，我們慢
慢追，因為沒有那種一球可以得17 分的球。我覺得我們做得很好，一點一點咬住比分，然
後好事就發生了。
Q: Did you get a chance to interact with Reggie?
問：你有機會和 Reggie Miller 互動嗎？
Hali: After my postgame interview, we locked eyes and had a little moment. I did
n’t want to go over there because it was pretty hectic, but we communicate pret
ty often. Definitely a special time. Really cool he was in the building for that
.
Hali： 我賽後受訪時，我們有對到眼一下，算是有個特別的交流。我沒過去找他，因為現
場實在太混亂了，但我們平常就蠻常會聯繫。這是一段很特別的時刻，他能在現場見證這一
切真的很酷。
心得：
The 過譽可以改成The 得體了吧
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05/22 18:03,
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05/22 18:06,
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05/22 18:07,
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05/22 18:08,
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05/22 18:09,
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05/22 18:10,
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05/22 18:11,
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05/22 18:11,
1小時前
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05/22 18:12,
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05/22 18:13,
1小時前
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05/22 18:14,
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05/22 18:16,
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05/22 18:17,
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05/22 18:19,
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05/22 18:24,
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05/22 18:27,
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05/22 18:37,
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05/22 18:39,
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05/22 18:39,
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05/22 18:40,
1小時前
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05/22 18:43,
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05/22 18:47,
1小時前
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05/22 18:49,
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05/22 18:53,
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05/22 18:53, 143F
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05/22 19:10,
49分鐘前
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05/22 19:28,
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