[情報] Kerr談苦命、吉巴與咖哩的合作關係和未來

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Steve Kerr would love for Jonathan Kuminga to turn into an updated version of Shawn Marion or a close copy of Aaron Gordon and ease right in as a consummate complementary piece next to Stephen Curry, Jimmy Butler, and Draymond Green. I suspect many of Kuminga’s current Warriors teammates would love that, too. Sometimes, I’m sure that Kuminga understands and embraces this practical path for his still-young career. Steve Kerr希望Jonathan Kuminga能夠成為現代版的Shawn Marion,或是Aaron Gordon的 翻版,在Stephen Curry、Jimmy Butler與Draymond Green身邊擔任一位理想的輔助型球 員。我相信許多勇士隊友也有相同的期望。有時候Kuminga似乎也理解並接受這條對他這 位年輕球員來說極具實際性的成長道路。 They know that the Kuminga situation is problematic. The Warriors know paying him his market rate would shoot them over the first apron and deep into the luxury tax. They know that in a perfect world, Kuminga would’ve been a star by now and well worth every minute and free-agent dollar. But this isn’t a perfect world. And he’s not a star yet — and might never get there on this team (or any team). 他們知道Kuminga的情況頗為棘手。勇士隊若要以市價留住他,將會突破第一層薪資上限 ,並深陷豪華稅泥沼。在理想情況下Kuminga此時應該已經成為一名明星球員,值得每一 分鐘的上場時間。但現實並不完美而他也尚未成為球星,甚至在這支球隊(或任何球隊) 中可能永遠都無法達到那個高度。 “It’s a tricky one because Jonathan obviously is gifted and wants to play a bigger role and wants to play more,” Kerr said on my podcast Wednesday. “ And for me, I’ve been asked to win. And right now, he’s not a guy who I can say I’m going to play 38 minutes with the roster that we have — Steph and Jimmy and Draymond — and put the puzzle together that way and expect to win. … “All I do is I try to win. That doesn’t necessarily mean everybody’s going to be happy, whether it’s the fans, or the players, or management, whatever, it’s just I’ve gotta do what I think is best.” Kerr在播客中說:「這件事很棘手,因為Jonathan顯然是一位有天賦的球員,並希望能擔 任更重要的角色獲得更多上場時間。但對我而言,我的任務就是贏球。現在以我們擁有的 陣容來看,我無法說我會讓他打38分鐘,然後還期待能贏球。」 「我所做的一切,就是設法贏球。這並不意味著每個人都會滿意,不論是球迷、球員,還 是管理層。我只是盡我所能做出最好的決定。」 This wasn’t meant as a definitive sendoff for Kuminga. On the Warriors’ side, Mike Dunleavy will have the most say about Kuminga’s future, which will be decided when everybody finds out which other teams are interested, what they offer, and if a sign-and-trade deal can be hammered out. It’s still possible that Kuminga ends up back with the Warriors next season. And this is just one of the issues the Warriors are facing this offseason. But it ’s the biggest one and it has the most potential ramifications. 這並不是對Kuminga的告別。就勇士方面而言,球隊總經理Mike Dunleavy將對Kuminga的 未來擁有最終決定權,這將取決於其他球隊是否感興趣、他們提出什麼報價,以及是否能 達成簽換協議。Kuminga下賽季仍有可能繼續待在勇士。而這僅是勇士休賽季面臨的眾多 問題之一,但卻是最具潛在影響的問題。 The Warriors just don’t have many ways to add to their roster other than seeing what they can get for Kuminga. And they definitely need to add some better-fitting pieces to their roster. So it’s a good thing that, as Curry put it and Kerr concurred, their run with Butler gave the Warriors so much clarity about the next few seasons. “You know, as soon as we traded for Jimmy Butler, we got really good,” Kerr said. “And as soon as Steph Curry got hurt, we lost. And sometimes it’s that simple.” 勇士並沒有太多方式補強陣容,除了看看能否透過Kuminga換來更合適的球員。而球隊確 實需要提升陣容的適配性。正如Curry和Kerr所說,與Butler合作後讓勇士對未來幾個賽 季的方向變得更加明確。 Kerr:「自從我們交易來Jimmy Butler我們就變得非常強。而當Curry受傷後,我們就輸 球了,事情就是這麼簡單。」 And you can believe that Butler should’ve been more aggressive shooting the ball once Curry was out, but you also have to understand that he instantly added so much to the Warriors precisely because he is so adamant about setting up his teammates. “I think Jimmy, he’s a subtle superstar,” Kerr said. “He doesn’t jump off the page when you watch him from afar from a skill standpoint, from an athletic standpoint. But as soon as you’re with him for a few days, you see the impact. You see how strong he is, how smart he is, the footwork. He rarely turns it over. And he’s so smart, he reminds me a lot of Andre Iguodala, the way he sees the game. 你也可以認為Butler在Curry缺賽期間應該更積極出手,但也必須理解,正因為他堅持為 隊友創造機會,他的加入才讓勇士的整體運作變得如此流暢。 Kerr說:「我認為Jimmy是一位細膩的超級球星。從遠處看,他的技巧與運動能力可能不 那麼顯眼,但只要和他共事幾天,你就會看到他的影響力。他很強壯、非常聰明、腳步扎 實,極少失誤,他的籃球智商讓我想起Andre Iguodala。」 “Jimmy’s main thing that he wants to do is pass. And you know me, I believe passing is the key to the game, I really do. We’ve always had good passing players on our most successful teams, guys who distribute, who see the game, who understand that a good pass, whether it’s an assist or not, unlocks an offensive possession. And a couple good passes on a possession means your defense is set up and the game is flowing and it’s connected. Jimmy does all that. And that’s why we started winning.” 「Jimmy最想做的事就是傳球,而你們知道我一直認為傳球是比賽的關鍵。最成功的球隊 裡總有優秀的傳球手,這些人懂得看比賽、懂得一個好傳球即使不是助攻也能解鎖整個進 攻回合。若一個回合能出現幾次好傳球,防守也能立刻就定位,整場比賽也能打得更流暢 與連貫,Jimmy就是這樣的球員,這也是我們開始贏球的原因。」 “This kind of reminds me — this topic of, ‘Did Jimmy shoot enough?’ — kind of reminds me of … before LeBron (James) won any championships and he was with Cleveland,” Kerr said. “And he’s passing to open teammates for game-winning shots and they miss and then the next day, it’s like, ‘Why didn ’t LeBron take the game-winning shot?’ It’s like, well, because that was the right play and his teammate got a wide-open look, that’s why. “Every player is unique to himself. I think Jimmy’s an incredible player. But if you want him to score and there’s no spacing around him, which was the case for the last four games of the series without Steph, it’s going to be really hard to score, especially against a guy like (Jaden) McDaniels with (Rudy) Gobert at the rim.” 但問題來了,在沒有Curry的情況下,Butler在第4和第5戰加起來只出手20次,這樣的方 式是否太過保守,錯失幫助球隊多撐一場以獲得讓Curry回歸的機會? Kerr回應:「這讓我想起過去人們對LeBron James的評論,在他還沒贏冠軍還在克里夫蘭 的時候。他在比賽最後傳球給空檔隊友,但隊友沒投進,隔天輿論就會說:『為什麼 LeBron 不自己出手?』原因就是那是正確的選擇,他的隊友有一個大空檔。」 「每個球員都是獨一無二的。我認為Jimmy是一位不可思議的球員。但如果你希望他得分 ,場上又沒有空間,比如最後四場Steph缺陣那樣,要得分會非常困難,尤其面對有像 Jaden McDaniels那樣的防守者,還有Gobert鎮守禁區。」 Both Curry and Kerr have spoken recently about their unique relationship after all these years and how much they count on each other as they lead this team. Draymond, for sure, has a key voice on team matters. But over the last few years, it’s become more and more of very valued partnership between Kerr and Curry. “There’s no coincidence why this has lasted 11 years,” Kerr said. “Steph has been an incredible partner and an amazing guy to collaborate with. He sets the tone culture-wise for everything we do. And we have a great bond. I think we share a lot of the same values as human beings. We share a similar vision of how the game should be played. “And we look forward to seeing each other every day. So why wouldn’t we keep this thing going? And why wouldn’t we still enjoy this? And that’s the dynamic I saw with (Gregg Popovich and Tim Duncan) when I played for four seasons with the Spurs. It was very similar. It was collaborative, it was authentic, genuine love and friendship. A lot of humor, a lot of joy. It’s hard to find that, but Steph and Tim are very similar in that regard. To me probably the two most collaborative superstars, the most easy to work with superstars that I could imagine.” Curry與Kerr最近都談到了他們多年來建立的獨特關係,以及在帶領球隊過程中彼此有多 麼的仰賴對方。雖然Draymond無疑在球隊中也擁有關鍵話語權,但這幾年來,Kerr與Curry 之間的夥伴關係變得愈加珍貴與重要。 Kerr表示:「這段關係能夠維持11年絕非巧合。Steph是一位難以置信的夥伴,也是一位 很棒的合作對象。他為我們所做的一切奠定了文化基調。我們之間有著深厚的連結,我認 為我們在人格特質上共享許多相同的價值觀,也有著對比賽應該如何進行的共同願景。」 「我們每天都期待見到彼此,那為什麼不繼續這段合作?為什麼不繼續享受這一切?我曾 在馬刺打球四年,那時我親眼目睹了Gregg Popovich與Tim Duncan之間的互動,這種關係 很相似合作性強、真誠、充滿愛與友誼,還有很多幽默與歡樂。這樣的關係很難得,而 Steph和Tim在這方面非常相像。對我而言,他們大概是我能想像到最具合作精神、最容 易共事的兩位超級球星。」 While Curry, Butler, and Draymond are all signed for two more seasons, Kerr’ s most recent extension expires after next season. But he reiterated that he has zero concerns about the situation and is happy to let things happen naturally after next season. “If they want me back, I’d probably say yes,” Kerr said. “How could I say no to the Warriors and Steph and Draymond? But I’ve also learned that there’ s no reason to even consider what’s gonna happen in the next year because none of us have any idea.” But he’s definitely not setting this up as the final year of his coaching career. “I love what I do and I’m not sitting here thinking, like, ‘Yeah, I’m wrapping this thing up and I don’t have the energy,” Kerr said. “I’m not thinking that way at all. Again, this is the NBA and my contract is for another year. Let’s put that to bed. I don’t want to have any discussions about my contract for the rest of the year. I just want to go into next year and have a great season and then we’ll re-address it. Curry、Butler和Draymond都還有兩年合約在身,而Kerr的合約則將在下賽季結束後到期。 不過,他強調自己對此毫無擔憂,願意順其自然地等待賽季結束後再討論未來。 Kerr表示:「如果他們希望我留下,我可能會說好,怎麼可能對勇士、Steph和Draymond 說不呢?但我也學到,不需要過早去考慮未來,因為我們誰也說不準一年後會發生什麼。 」 他最後也強調,自己並沒有打算將下一季當作執教生涯的最後一年。 「我熱愛我做的事,我不會坐在這裡想:『是時候收尾了,我已經沒有精力了。』 我完全不是這樣想的,這是NBA而我的合約還有一年。我希望這個話題就此打住,我不想 再花一整年談論我的合約,我只想好好度過下個賽季,然後我們再回頭談論這件事。」 消息來源:https://reurl.cc/OYggdv 短評或心得:明年完整賽季的吉巴加上勇士還是很讓人期待 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.231.92.238 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1747988009.A.8A9.html

05/23 16:15, 8小時前 , 1F
還老詹公道的只能是Kerr了
05/23 16:15, 1F

05/23 16:19, 8小時前 , 2F
咖哩不在我也想要退了
05/23 16:19, 2F

05/23 16:20, 8小時前 , 3F
笑死 所以當kerr讓他打38分鐘大概就是不想贏了
05/23 16:20, 3F

05/23 16:22, 8小時前 , 4F
LBJ就真的是很優秀的球員 只是他想撞瓷對象太強
05/23 16:22, 4F

05/23 16:22, 8小時前 , 5F
Kerr說LBJ傳球是正確的 要被追殺了嗎?
05/23 16:22, 5F

05/23 16:23, 8小時前 , 6F
以前也有人批評MJ只喜歡自幹不會傳球
05/23 16:23, 6F

05/23 16:23, 8小時前 , 7F
他就刷了好幾場大三元 結果勝率還比較低
05/23 16:23, 7F

05/23 16:23, 8小時前 , 8F
柯學家用人唯親,毀了一個球員
05/23 16:23, 8F

05/23 16:23, 8小時前 , 9F
kobe也獲得同樣的感想
05/23 16:23, 9F

05/23 16:24, 8小時前 , 10F
傳給那些投不進的我還不如自己投
05/23 16:24, 10F

05/23 16:25, 8小時前 , 11F
科學家別再害人 讓苦命去可以發揮的地方 在這被大家
05/23 16:25, 11F

05/23 16:25, 8小時前 , 12F
苦命嘎要當老大 不要當副手 交易出去吧
05/23 16:25, 12F

05/23 16:25, 8小時前 , 13F
嫌真的夠了
05/23 16:25, 13F

05/23 16:26, 8小時前 , 14F
當你不是kobe或是MJ的時候 傳球真的很正確
05/23 16:26, 14F

05/23 16:28, 8小時前 , 15F
真的是攤牌
05/23 16:28, 15F

05/23 16:29, 8小時前 , 16F
養了一堆只會幫咖喱打球的 然後咖喱不在 投籃 跑位
05/23 16:29, 16F

05/23 16:29, 8小時前 , 17F
防守都不見了
05/23 16:29, 17F

05/23 16:29, 8小時前 , 18F
會怕MJ Kobe所以上包夾
05/23 16:29, 18F

05/23 16:29, 8小時前 , 19F
不怕LBJ所以單防讓他打到爽
05/23 16:29, 19F

05/23 16:29, 8小時前 , 20F
十年前的Kerr就已經奠定防LBJ聖經了
05/23 16:29, 20F

05/23 16:30, 8小時前 , 21F
kerr不是很愛臭老詹嗎,說老詹給他三個戒指
05/23 16:30, 21F

05/23 16:31, 8小時前 , 22F
難怪他這麼喜歡LBJ
05/23 16:31, 22F

05/23 16:32, 8小時前 , 23F
山羌鼻子癢
05/23 16:32, 23F

05/23 16:32, 8小時前 , 24F
我相信波波也會有 TD不在時的劇本 當你有苦命,有
05/23 16:32, 24F

05/23 16:33, 8小時前 , 25F
士官長 然後你沒辦法炒出另一盤 CURRY不在的菜
05/23 16:33, 25F

05/23 16:34, 8小時前 , 26F
推樓上
05/23 16:34, 26F

05/23 16:38, 8小時前 , 27F
是不是在臭姆斯
05/23 16:38, 27F

05/23 16:39, 8小時前 , 28F
波波在TD時期的20年 戰術就不知道變過幾套了 他基本
05/23 16:39, 28F

05/23 16:39, 8小時前 , 29F
都是以TD以外的人來設計戰術 然後TD也很願意調整配
05/23 16:39, 29F

05/23 16:39, 8小時前 , 30F
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05/23 16:42, 8小時前 , 31F
說穿了就是為了個人位置在那邊死拖著忽視球隊未來性
05/23 16:42, 31F

05/23 16:42, 8小時前 , 32F
真正強的人就是不管什麼戰術 都能發揮影響力就像TD
05/23 16:42, 32F

05/23 16:43, 8小時前 , 33F
現在就是如果苦命要上場跟咖喱重疊時間會很長,重疊
05/23 16:43, 33F

05/23 16:43, 8小時前 , 34F
的時候沒辦法跑戰術
05/23 16:43, 34F

05/23 16:43, 8小時前 , 35F
而已 那三個是多有爭冠本 Kuminga還要等到他們退了
05/23 16:43, 35F

05/23 16:43, 8小時前 , 36F
不以他為主攻點 他在場上一樣是攻防一體大黑柱
05/23 16:43, 36F

05/23 16:43, 8小時前 , 37F
黃金期早就錯過
05/23 16:43, 37F

05/23 16:44, 8小時前 , 38F
怎麼會反過來說教練應該給我時間 為我打造戰術
05/23 16:44, 38F

05/23 16:45, 8小時前 , 39F
真那麼有未來性 對手的攻防重點擺自然會在你身上
05/23 16:45, 39F
還有 131 則推文
05/23 20:12, 4小時前 , 171F
看來勇士缺一個輔助大師-姆斯 趕快組個四巨頭 lol
05/23 20:12, 171F

05/23 20:19, 4小時前 , 172F
普爾要說也跟可愛類似 想當老大了
05/23 20:19, 172F

05/23 20:19, 4小時前 , 173F
普爾勇士最後一季有點亂打阿 一直想刷
05/23 20:19, 173F

05/23 20:25, 4小時前 , 174F
不刷沒底氣跟老闆要錢啊 你老大刷滿錢也滿 小弟打好
05/23 20:25, 174F

05/23 20:26, 4小時前 , 175F
被用綠葉薪資開價哪受得了
05/23 20:26, 175F

05/23 20:28, 4小時前 , 176F
苦命聽到他的訪問 蠢了才留下
05/23 20:28, 176F

05/23 20:28, 4小時前 , 177F
普爾被打一蹶不振,過幾年才走出暴力陰影
05/23 20:28, 177F

05/23 20:30, 4小時前 , 178F
放苦命走吧,別鬧了
05/23 20:30, 178F

05/23 20:41, 4小時前 , 179F
噁心,之前不肯好好用,現在才在用苦肉計
05/23 20:41, 179F

05/23 20:52, 3小時前 , 180F
先放話管理層你高薪留他我一樣不用,來互相傷害
05/23 20:52, 180F

05/23 20:55, 3小時前 , 181F
KT和嘴綠都是A+的阿 勇士也救了圍巾小AI這種當第一
05/23 20:55, 181F

05/23 20:55, 3小時前 , 182F
人養 但卻被母隊止損的人 不可否認蠻棒的吧
05/23 20:55, 182F

05/23 20:58, 3小時前 , 183F
既然不能好好練他 就拜託放苦命走吧 不要再糟蹋他
05/23 20:58, 183F

05/23 20:58, 3小時前 , 184F
的天賦了
05/23 20:58, 184F

05/23 21:07, 3小時前 , 185F
重點是你要養啊,一開始把牠設定成可愛,你沒看可愛
05/23 21:07, 185F

05/23 21:07, 3小時前 , 186F
新人那幾年一直有上場時間,當然可能是popo喜歡控制
05/23 21:07, 186F

05/23 21:07, 3小時前 , 187F
上場時間,但你就只會設定1個養成失敗就放棄那乾脆
05/23 21:07, 187F

05/23 21:07, 3小時前 , 188F
放生
05/23 21:07, 188F

05/23 21:16, 3小時前 , 189F
別費心趕快放走吧 奧運Tatum給他也不會用啊 戰術設
05/23 21:16, 189F

05/23 21:17, 3小時前 , 190F
定就是拿來幫Curry擋拆用 綠葉有能力機會也不能投
05/23 21:17, 190F

05/23 21:19, 3小時前 , 191F
投了得分 讓Curry白跑就是勇士兵家大忌啊
05/23 21:19, 191F

05/23 21:20, 3小時前 , 192F
不然當初嘴綠幹啥去罵KD 就是不跑戰術給柯瑞投啊
05/23 21:20, 192F

05/23 21:22, 3小時前 , 193F
咖哩頂薪要 球權要 要替隊友講話時又喜歡當不沾鍋
05/23 21:22, 193F

05/23 21:22, 3小時前 , 194F
又愛亂酸人 跟TD差多了好嗎
05/23 21:22, 194F

05/23 21:34, 3小時前 , 195F
KT、嘴綠都是輔佐Curry的吧!Kerr的體系就是以Curry
05/23 21:34, 195F

05/23 21:34, 3小時前 , 196F
為核心發動的,和馬刺TD在還能自家培養FMVP的可愛還
05/23 21:34, 196F

05/23 21:34, 3小時前 , 197F
是有差別的啦
05/23 21:34, 197F

05/23 21:37, 3小時前 , 198F
好的都是勇士的功勞,打不出來都是球員本身球商太
05/23 21:37, 198F

05/23 21:44, 3小時前 , 199F
低,對吧
05/23 21:44, 199F

05/23 21:46, 3小時前 , 200F
不得不說普爾真的是未來的解答只因一季試驗當老大
05/23 21:46, 200F

05/23 21:46, 3小時前 , 201F
失敗就把他放了真的可以不然普爾加苦命去建隊還是
05/23 21:46, 201F

05/23 21:46, 3小時前 , 202F
有搞頭
05/23 21:46, 202F

05/23 21:53, 2小時前 , 203F
偷臭老詹~
05/23 21:53, 203F

05/23 22:18, 2小時前 , 204F
不重要
05/23 22:18, 204F

05/23 22:22, 2小時前 , 205F
你以為普爾只有嘴綠想打他嗎?那時囂張到咖喱和其
05/23 22:22, 205F

05/23 22:22, 2小時前 , 206F
他人都看不在眼裡,是咖喱脾氣好才沒氣氛的
05/23 22:22, 206F

05/23 22:51, 2小時前 , 207F
事實證明圍繞Curry的體系拿了4冠又創造了現象級的
05/23 22:51, 207F

05/23 22:51, 2小時前 , 208F
王朝 不以Curry為中心不然是要以誰?TD是真的強 以
05/23 22:51, 208F

05/23 22:52, 1小時前 , 209F
他的身體條件到任何體系都是加分 兩種根本不同情況
05/23 22:52, 209F

05/23 23:07, 1小時前 , 210F
放他走吧 看能換到誰趕快換一換
05/23 23:07, 210F
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