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[花邊] Beal現況&太陽攤平薪水的困難

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https://reurl.cc/OYxllr Phoenix could try to trade Beal, as it did this past season, but his no-trade clause remains. The same that was true before the 2025 trade deadline is the case today, according to a league source familiar with Beal’s thought process: Beal would be open to the right trade that sends him the right destination, but his preference is to remain in Phoenix, even if the team won only 35 games a season ago and just downgraded from Kevin Durant, who it dealt to the Houston Rockets last weekend. 太陽可以嘗試交易Beal，就跟上個賽季一樣，但他的霸王條款仍然持續，目前的狀況 跟2025交易大限一樣，Beal願意去他認為適合的地方。但還是傾向繼續待在鳳凰城 ，即使球隊交易了KD跟本季只贏下35場 Since leaving Washington in 2023, Beal’s wife and kids have moved from D.C. to Los Angeles and then, before the start of this season, to Phoenix full time. Playing for another team would leave him with two options: He would have to either pull his kids out of school, moving them again, or leave his family altogether, neither of which excites him. So the Suns have tried another strategy. 因為2023後，Beal的老婆跟小孩就從華盛頓搬到洛杉磯，在這個賽季前正是定居鳳凰城 ，所以去其他的球隊代表要不小孩跟老婆再度搬家，要不是他要留老婆跟小孩自己一個 人出去別的城市打拼，這兩點他都不喜歡 Reports from local outlets have emerged that Phoenix would consider waiving and stretching Beal’s contract, a move that could seriously hinder the Suns ’ flexibility down the line but would help them stay below the second apron in 2025-26. Of course, waiving and stretching Beal — a rule that would allow Phoenix to release Beal from his contract and then spread the $110 million it owes him over five years instead of two, lessening his cap number to approximately $22 million a year — isn’t even possible without Beal giving back money, which would be out of character. There is a niche rule in the collective bargaining agreement that prevents teams from waiving and stretching players willy-nilly. In this case, the Suns would be victims of it. In any given season, the stretched money on a team’s books can equal no more than 15 percent of that year’s salary cap. The cap for next season is projected to be $154.6 million. Beal’s stretched money, the previously mentioned $22 million, would equal 14.3 percent of that. However, this is where the Suns shot themselves in the foot. In August 2024, they waived and stretched two players: Nassir Little and E.J. Liddell. Despite those moves running under the radar (and despite the eerily similar last names), these moves don’t appear little now. Little’s money is on Phoenix’s books into the 2030s. Liddell’s is there for the next two seasons. In 2025-26, the Suns owe the two a combined $3.8 million in dead money, which would combine with Beal’s hypothetical dead money to make up more than 15 percent of next season’s salary cap. So for the Suns to waive Beal, they would have to get him to agree to give back a consequential portion of his contract — $2.7 million a year over those five years. It adds up to $13.8 million total. Beal could make that money back (or he could possibly add to his income) after hitting the open market. I asked a few executives around the league what they believe Beal could be worth if he were a free agent. The consensus was in the range of the mid-level exception, which starts with a $14.1 million salary in 2025-26. But while certain winning situations or spectacular organizations would appeal to him, according to league sources, he ’s also not trying to leave his family or upend their lives. It means that once again, the Suns and Beal aren’t in a much different situation than they were back when Phoenix was calling around the league in search of a place he’d be willing to go, and that would also be down to absorb his large contract. Despite the noise, the Suns didn’t get close to offloading Beal then. At least one crucial element of this saga would have to change for them to get close now. 所以太陽可能考慮的是攤提Beal的合約，這會幫助太陽避開25-26賽季的第二層硬上限 ，但也會嚴重限制未來的靈活性，雖然按照規定攤提可以把剩下2年110M的合約攤5年 分成一年22M 可是這件事情卻不能這樣做，需要Beal放棄薪水 那是因為太陽觸發了一個在攤提中的冷門規定，簡單的說，就是你每一季攤提的薪水不得 超過該季薪資空間上限的15% 以25-26賽季來說，最多可以攤大概23.2M，但因為太陽已經攤提了Nassir Little和E.J. Liddell的合約，前者的薪資更是會一路被紀錄到2030年，2人合計已經在下個賽季占 據了3.8M的死薪資，如果加上Beal攤提一年的22M就超過了聯盟允許的攤提金額，因此 這是不可行的 這代表太陽沒辦法直接把Beal的合約攤提掉，需要他放棄薪水，一年會需要他放棄2.7M ，5年合計放棄約13.8M才可行 但其實這個薪水對Beal來說要賺回來很容易，記者跟聯盟幾個管理層溝通認為Beal今年 要拿到全額中產不難，也就是大概14.1M，不過問題在於即使某些有競爭力或管理層優秀 的球隊可以吸引Beal，他也無意離開家人或再度打亂家人的生活 所以說，現在的狀況與太陽之前打電話問遍全聯盟、看Beal願意去哪的情況基本沒兩樣。 當時，太陽就沒能成功出清Beal的大合約 除非局勢出現重大變化，否則這次也很難。 草 太陽居然攤提薪資攤到可能會觸發聯盟的規定了 也沒算到過可能會這樣吧 所以就算老闆想教訓Beal還辦不到呢 另外不想離開家人的部分季中就說過了，如果沒有讓他特別想去的球隊待在鳳凰城是首選 ，因為Beal不想讓家人搬家跟需要離開家人 同樣的事情DDV也說過自己連續好幾年搬家都不知道怎麼跟家人交代 因此 現況沒什麼改變 除非太陽能說服Beal放棄薪水 不然太陽也不能攤提他 全額買斷也不現實.....所以 恩 就那樣吧 可能需要賣其他人來降薪資吧 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 133.106.183.152 (日本) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1751135283.A.E37.html
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06/29 02:30, 3小時前 , 1F
懂了 攤提後beal中產加入湖人
06/29 02:30, 1F
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06/29 02:30, 3小時前 , 2F
這規定好冷門 謝謝太陽比爾為球迷上課
06/29 02:30, 2F
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06/29 02:30, 3小時前 , 3F
所以太陽這幾年的一連串操作真是賠了夫人又折兵
06/29 02:30, 3F
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06/29 02:31, 3小時前 , 4F
笑死，居然會撞到攤提上限
06/29 02:31, 4F
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06/29 02:31, 3小時前 , 5F
想直接攤提也無法，太陽管理層真的是有夠搞笑
06/29 02:31, 5F
老闆想教訓也無法了 就真的意外撞了這規定
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06/29 02:32, 3小時前 , 6F
慘到不行..
06/29 02:32, 6F
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06/29 02:32, 3小時前 , 7F
連攤都不行... 不然Green練控球好了
06/29 02:32, 7F
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06/29 02:32, 3小時前 , 8F
完全不知道有這規定= =
06/29 02:32, 8F
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06/29 02:33, 3小時前 , 9F
超好笑 老闆還想教訓啊
06/29 02:33, 9F
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06/29 02:34, 3小時前 , 10F
滷蛋太大顆會噎死人 懂了
06/29 02:34, 10F
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06/29 02:34, 3小時前 , 11F
霸王也沒幾個，以後可能也少
06/29 02:34, 11F
※ 編輯: dragon803 (133.106.183.152 日本), 06/29/2025 02:36:24
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06/29 02:35, 3小時前 , 12F
攤提中產加入火箭就厲害了
06/29 02:35, 12F
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06/29 02:35, 3小時前 , 13F
又教訓不到了 霸王已經第幾勝了
06/29 02:35, 13F
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06/29 02:35, 3小時前 , 14F
火箭沒中產了
06/29 02:35, 14F
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06/29 02:35, 3小時前 , 15F
就之前從來沒有管理層這麼搞笑會攤提攤到15%薪資空
06/29 02:35, 15F
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06/29 02:35, 3小時前 , 16F
間的薪水，老闆真的想花錢也無法XDD
06/29 02:35, 16F
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06/29 02:36, 3小時前 , 17F
目前比爾想去的只能太平洋組 啊有中產的就國王吧
06/29 02:36, 17F
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06/29 02:36, 3小時前 , 18F
小丑不攤
06/29 02:36, 18F
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06/29 02:37, 3小時前 , 19F
別忘記還有cp3 他今年會留在la
06/29 02:37, 19F
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06/29 02:37, 3小時前 , 20F
JJ留下來的資產就是攤提下來的死錢
06/29 02:37, 20F
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06/29 02:37, 3小時前 , 21F
買這尊來供真的瞎
06/29 02:37, 21F
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06/29 02:37, 3小時前 , 22F
頓寶含金量還在上升欸
06/29 02:37, 22F
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06/29 02:38, 3小時前 , 23F
攤提笑死 四倍滷蛋 最好有這麼蠢的總管
06/29 02:38, 23F
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06/29 02:38, 3小時前 , 24F
換弩機配little攤提
06/29 02:38, 24F
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06/29 02:39, 3小時前 , 25F
長知識了 霸王:我繼續安穩睡覺
06/29 02:39, 25F
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06/29 02:39, 3小時前 , 26F
人家噎死只是一個形容
06/29 02:39, 26F
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06/29 02:39, 3小時前 , 27F
這個是真的被噎死
06/29 02:39, 27F
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06/29 02:39, 3小時前 , 28F
小哥這筆操作很靈活 勿嘴
06/29 02:39, 28F
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06/29 02:40, 3小時前 , 29F
四倍滷蛋有學名嗎？鴕鳥蛋？
06/29 02:40, 29F
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06/29 02:41, 3小時前 , 30F
還有兩年..用到合約結束吧XDD
06/29 02:41, 30F
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06/29 02:41, 3小時前 , 31F
哈哈哈哈哈
06/29 02:41, 31F
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06/29 02:42, 3小時前 , 32F
好慘 想被魯蛋噎結果還不給吃
06/29 02:42, 32F
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06/29 02:42, 3小時前 , 33F
冷門規定居然可以觸發哦== 真的是被噎死
06/29 02:42, 33F
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06/29 02:43, 3小時前 , 34F
你不要騙我 當初我聽某些專業太陽粉可是樂呵呵的說
06/29 02:43, 34F
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06/29 02:43, 3小時前 , 35F
那包很有彈性 怎麼可能現在會沒有彈性可以攤提
06/29 02:43, 35F
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06/29 02:43, 3小時前 , 36F
感謝大腸讓我學到一個幾乎沒有用的冷門規則
06/29 02:43, 36F
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06/29 02:44, 3小時前 , 37F
喔 Beal 6/28 生日快樂 在地人繼續罵啊 愈罵愈不走
06/29 02:44, 37F
還有 37 則推文
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06/29 03:23, 2小時前 , 75F
是有多慘 書人趁有身價包一包了
06/29 03:23, 75F
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06/29 03:32, 2小時前 , 76F
自找的 當初交易霸王被一面倒看衰 事實也證明如此
06/29 03:32, 76F
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06/29 03:33, 2小時前 , 77F
太陽擺爛沒有用啊，之前連交換權都賣了，坦也是幫別
06/29 03:33, 77F
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06/29 03:33, 2小時前 , 78F
人坦
06/29 03:33, 78F
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06/29 03:38, 2小時前 , 79F
能把薪資空間搞成這種地獄也是蠻有才華的
06/29 03:38, 79F
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06/29 03:43, 2小時前 , 80F
當初這規定的15%不知道怎麼來的
06/29 03:43, 80F
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06/29 03:52, 2小時前 , 81F
攤提金額比每年的薪資成長還高XD
06/29 03:52, 81F
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06/29 04:01, 1小時前 , 82F
反正他現在就是打算在鳳凰城當地方養老公務員的概
06/29 04:01, 82F
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06/29 04:01, 1小時前 , 83F
念，沒有什麼差我就奪冠之類的車他是不會上的
06/29 04:01, 83F
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06/29 04:01, 1小時前 , 84F
為了家人，了不起，負責！
06/29 04:01, 84F
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06/29 04:02, 1小時前 , 85F
可以玩個五隻SG先發創造歷史
06/29 04:02, 85F
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06/29 04:02, 1小時前 , 86F
太陽的困境完全是自己造成的 怪不了誰
06/29 04:02, 86F
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06/29 04:08, 1小時前 , 87F
Nassir Little是攤提到2029球季
06/29 04:08, 87F
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06/29 04:08, 1小時前 , 88F
E.J.Liddell是攤提到2027球季
06/29 04:08, 88F
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06/29 04:08, 1小時前 , 89F
睡的很安穩
06/29 04:08, 89F
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06/29 04:10, 1小時前 , 90F
大腸搞死自己，今摳連
06/29 04:10, 90F
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06/29 04:11, 1小時前 , 91F
比爾更神了 老闆更憨了
06/29 04:11, 91F
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06/29 04:11, 1小時前 , 92F
老闆亂搞自己嘗到苦果囉
06/29 04:11, 92F
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06/29 04:13, 1小時前 , 93F
不過兩年而已 忍忍就過了
06/29 04:13, 93F
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06/29 04:20, 1小時前 , 94F
有些人不知道自已爛 只想拖累別人
06/29 04:20, 94F
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06/29 04:22, 1小時前 , 95F
現在攤也攤不了，一整個魔幻
06/29 04:22, 95F
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06/29 04:23, 1小時前 , 96F
比爾天天被罵，幹嘛還為你著想？他沒有欠你，要說
06/29 04:23, 96F
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06/29 04:24, 1小時前 , 97F
欠也只有巫師才有資格
06/29 04:24, 97F
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06/29 04:28, 1小時前 , 98F
至於霸王?當時巫師就決定給比爾養老，要陪他一起爛
06/29 04:28, 98F
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06/29 04:28, 1小時前 , 99F
，沒有比爾巫師一樣爛有差嗎?
06/29 04:28, 99F
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06/29 04:33, 1小時前 , 100F
笑死 拖累咧 有上沒上太陽還不是一樣爛
06/29 04:33, 100F
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06/29 04:35, 1小時前 , 101F
他的問題在他跟布克1＋1沒大於二
06/29 04:35, 101F
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06/29 04:37, 1小時前 , 102F
頓寶含金量還在上升XD
06/29 04:37, 102F
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06/29 04:47, 1小時前 , 103F
超級可悲 歷史級的合約笑話 還有歷史級的失敗交易
06/29 04:47, 103F
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06/29 04:47, 1小時前 , 104F
看來說太陽是死局還是太樂觀了
06/29 04:47, 104F
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06/29 04:50, 1小時前 , 105F
找來Beal是總管的鍋還是KD的鍋？當初KD找的不是？
06/29 04:50, 105F
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06/29 04:52, 1小時前 , 106F
太陽真愛吃滷蛋 還想一次吃三顆 lol
06/29 04:52, 106F
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06/29 04:56, 1小時前 , 107F
書人賣掉，然後重建。
06/29 04:56, 107F
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06/29 04:56, 1小時前 , 108F
從闖入西冠五門齊到二層豪華稅無季後賽 一連串災難
06/29 04:56, 108F
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06/29 04:56, 1小時前 , 109F
操作真的是最頂的失敗案例
06/29 04:56, 109F
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06/29 05:17, 41分鐘前 , 110F
明明就是全隊上下一起招募過來的 已經看到好幾個什
06/29 05:17, 110F
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06/29 05:17, 41分鐘前 , 111F
麼屎都往KD臉上潑 搞的好像全部都是他錯一樣 太陽
06/29 05:17, 111F
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06/29 05:17, 41分鐘前 , 112F
什麼都沒錯 噁心死了
06/29 05:17, 112F
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06/29 05:21, 37分鐘前 , 113F
梭哈KD 買霸王 教訓軟頓 3個中錯2個 看起來就像全錯
06/29 05:21, 113F
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06/29 05:22, 36分鐘前 , 114F
當初有Booker還找Beal過來真的是白癡操作
06/29 05:22, 114F
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