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[外絮] Westbrook反感LBJ的虛偽行為

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https://reurl.cc/daRlQk 作者:Yaron Weitzman (這是作者要賣書所以提早釋出的片段 反正就是在講22湖人的抓馬 明天開賣會有更多細節 ) LeBron James strolled into Las Vegas’s Thomas & Mack Center, flanked by his security team. His arrival sent a jolt through the arena. Fans held up their cellphones. Photographers flocked toward him. Players, coaches, and executives congregating around the court came over to say hello. It was early July, and tipoff for the Lakers’ summer league squad’s first game was just a few minutes away. LeBron James在他的保全團隊陪同下，漫步走進位於拉斯維加斯的Thomas & Mack Center 。他的到來讓整個體育館瞬間沸騰。球迷們舉起手機拍攝，攝影師們蜂擁而上，場邊聚集 的球員、教練與球團高層也紛紛前來打招呼。那是七月初，距離湖人夏季聯賽首戰開球只 剩下幾分鐘。 An official escorted LeBron to a seat on the baseline. Throughout the game’s first half, new teammates like Thomas Bryant and Juan Toscano-Anderson paid their respects. So did Darvin Ham, Rob Pelinka, and Kurt Rambis. In the second half, Talen Horton-Tucker swung by. Seated across the court, on the opposite end of the floor, was Russell Westbrook. 一位工作人員引導LeBron坐到底線邊的座位上。比賽上半場期間，新隊友Thomas Bryant和 Juan Toscano-Anderson前來致意，Darvin Ham、Rob Pelinka和Kurt Rambis也一一上前問 候。下半場時，Talen Horton-Tucker也過來寒暄。而在球場另一端、對面的位置上，則 坐著Russell Westbrook。 He saw LeBron enter the gym before the game. He didn’t budge. The first quarter came and went. He never crossed half court. The second quarter reached its final minutes. Westbrook rose from his seat and exited through a tunnel, never returning. 他在比賽開始前看到LeBron走進球館。 他沒有動。 第一節結束了。 他從未跨過中場線。 第二節進入最後幾分鐘時，Westbrook從座位上站起，走進通道離開，再也沒有回來。 The scene became the talk of the night. Side-by-side images contrasting how LeBron and Westbrook had interacted at summer league the previous year—they’ d entered the building together and sat next to each other—made the rounds on social media. The noninteraction was red meat for talking heads. It also sparked concerns within the team’s new coaching staff. “We knew that we’d have to bring Westbrook off the bench eventually because things weren’t a good fit,” a Lakers coach said. “But seeing that play out that night it was like, ‘Oh, these motherfuckers aren’t even talking to each other.’” 這一幕成了當晚的熱門話題。社群媒體上流傳著對比圖--去年夏季聯賽時，LeBron和 Westbrook一起進場並肩而坐;而今年，兩人卻毫無互動。這場"零交流"的畫面成了各大評 論節目的焦點，也讓球隊新教練團感到擔憂。 "我們早就知道，最終得讓 Westbrook 從板凳出發，因為兩人的配合並不合適，"一位湖人 隊教練說道。"但那天晚上看到那情況，我心想:'喔，這兩個傢伙根本連話都不講了。'" The impetus appeared to be the recent rumors involving Kyrie Irving. LeBron’ s former costar was entering the final season of his contract with the Nets, a $36.9 million player option, and wanted an extension. The Nets, however, were unwilling to hand over tens of millions of guaranteed dollars to a player who, since arriving in Brooklyn, had missed chunks of games for, among other things, a refusal to get a COVID vaccine and promoting an antisemitic film on social media. Recognizing he had no future in Brooklyn, Irving asked for a trade. The news had leaked in late June, with multiple outlets reporting that the Lakers were one of Irving’s preferred destinations and that LeBron wanted a reunion. 這場風波的導火線似乎來自於近期圍繞Kyrie Irving的傳聞。LeBron的前隊友正準備進入 他在籃網合約的最後一年，手上握有價值36.9M的球員選項，並希望能獲得延長合約。然而 ，籃網並不願再給這位自加盟以來因多種原因缺賽的球員數千萬的保障合約--其中包括拒 絕接種新冠疫苗，以及在社群媒體上宣傳一部帶有反猶內容的電影。意識到自己在布魯克 林已經沒有未來，Irving於是提出交易請求。這項消息在六月下旬被曝光，多家媒體報導 指出湖人隊是Irving的首選之一，而LeBron也希望能與他再度聯手。 Negotiations between the Lakers and Nets went nowhere. Pelinka never showed any real interest in Irving. And even if he had, the Nets had no desire to take Westbrook back. Irving picked up his option and remained in Brooklyn, but by then the damage was done. Because of the NBA’s salary-matching rules, the only way for the Lakers to acquire Irving would have been by dealing Westbrook. Westbrook knew this, and he knew that LeBron did as well. Meaning that no matter what LeBron said in public, the reality was clear: He was pushing for the Lakers to ship Westbrook out. 湖人與籃網之間的談判毫無進展。Pelinka從未對Irving表現出真正的興趣;即便他有，籃 網也完全不打算接收Westbrook。最終，Irving執行了他的球員選項，留在布魯克林，但傷 害已經造成。 根據NBA的薪資匹配規則，湖人若想得到Irving，唯一的方式就是拿Westbrook做為交易籌 碼。Westbrook很清楚這一點，也知道LeBron同樣明白。這意味著，不管LeBron在公開場合 怎麼說，現實已經很明顯--他正在推動湖人把Westbrook交易出去。 The Lakers opened their season in mid-October with a 123-109 loss to the Warriors. Two nights later, in their home opener, Westbrook misfired on all 11 of his shots, and the Lakers fell to the Clippers, 103-97. Asked during his postgame press conference how he thought he played, Westbrook replied, “ Solid. Played hard. That’s all you can ask for.” Three days later, on a Sunday afternoon, the Lakers were back on their home floor to take on the Blazers. This time their first win of the season was within their grasp. 湖人隊在十月中開啟新賽季，以109比123不敵勇士。兩晚之後，回到主場的開幕戰中， Westbrook 11次出手全數落空，湖人以97比103敗給快艇。賽後記者會上，當被問及自己表 現如何時，Westbrook回答道:"表現穩定，打得努力，這就是全部了。"三天後，星期天下 午，湖人再次回到主場迎戰拓荒者隊。這一次，他們似乎終於有機會拿下本季首勝。 With just 36 seconds remaining and clinging to a one-point lead, Westbrook brought the ball up the court. Instead of draining the clock, he dribbled directly into a 15-footer on the right wing. The shot ricocheted off the rim. Watching from the perimeter, both Anthony Davis and LeBron turned their palms toward the sky, putting their indignation on full display. The Lakers ended up losing 106-104, falling to 0-3. 比賽僅剩36秒，湖人以一分領先時，Westbrook把球帶過半場。與其消耗時間，他卻直接在 右側翼區運球後出手一記約15呎的跳投。球彈在籃框上彈出。站在外圍觀戰的Anthony Davis和LeBron同時攤開雙手朝天，明顯流露出不滿與無奈。最終，湖人以104比106落敗， 戰績滑落至0勝3敗。 After the game, one reporter asked LeBron about the team’s late-game “shot selection.” Another wanted to know, “basketball philosophy-wise,” how LeBron preferred to manage the clock late in games. “I feel like this is an interview of trying to set me up to say something. I can tell that you guys are in the whole ‘Russell Westbrook category’ right now,” LeBron said. Later he added, “You guys can write about Russ and all the things you want to try to talk about Russ, but I’m not up here to do that. I won’t do it. I’ve said it over and over. That’s not who I am.” 賽後，有記者問LeBron對球隊在關鍵時刻"投籃選擇"的看法;另一位則想知道，從"籃球理 念"的角度來說，LeBron在比賽最後階段偏好如何控制時間。 LeBron回答道:"我覺得這訪問是在試圖讓我說出某些話。我可以感覺到你們現在全都在' Russell Westbrook話題區'裡。'"他接著補充說:"你們可以寫關於Russ的任何東西，想怎 麼談他都行，但我不會在這裡這麼做。我不會。我已經說過很多次了，那不是我的風格。" Westbrook wasn’t buying it. To him, this was just the latest example of LeBron saying one thing but doing another. “People are saying, ‘Let Russ be Russ,’” he had told reporters the previous December. “I think nobody understands what that means. I think people just say it.” It was a clear shot at LeBron, and one Westbrook doubled down on after the season when asked about LeBron’s repeated use of the phrase. “That wasn’t true,” Westbrook told reporters. “So let’s be honest.” Westbrook 並不買帳。在他看來，這只是LeBron口頭一套、實際又是另一套的最新例子。 前一年的十二月，他曾對記者說過:"大家都在講'讓Russ做自己(Let Russ be Russ)'，但 我覺得根本沒有人真正懂這是什麼意思。我認為人們只是隨口說說而已。"這句話明顯是在 暗指LeBron。而在賽季結束後，當記者再度詢問他對LeBron反覆使用這句話的看法時， Westbrook也再次強調自己的立場。 "那不是真的，"Westbrook對記者說。"老實講吧。" Westbrook knew LeBron’s reputation. He’d seen all the examples of LeBron seemingly misrepresenting himself. There was the time LeBron claimed that The Godfather was his favorite movie but then failed to recall a single line when asked during a press conference to name one. Westbrook很清楚LeBron的名聲。他早已見過許多LeBron言行不一的例子。其中一次是 LeBron曾聲稱教父(The Godfather)是他最喜歡的電影，但在記者會上被要求說出其中一句 經典台詞時，卻一句也說不出來。 There was the time he carried The Autobiography of Malcolm X into a media session but stumbled when asked to name his biggest takeaway. There was the time during an interview when he claimed that, the night Kobe scored 81 points, he’d predicted beforehand that he’d go for 70, a clip so widely mocked that it became a popular meme. LeBron’s reputation for bending the truth was so widespread that he even got teased while appearing in would-be safe spaces. “They say you be cappin’,’’ Jacksonville Jaguars cornerback Jalen Ramsey told him during a November 2022 episode of The Shop, a talk show produced by LeBron and Maverick Carter’s media company. 有一次，他帶著Malcolm X自傳走進媒體訪問現場，結果當被問到從書中得到的最大啟發時 ，卻語塞答不上來。還有一次，他在受訪時聲稱，在Kobe拿下81分的那一晚，他事先就預 測Kobe會砍下70分--這段影片被瘋傳、廣受嘲諷，甚至成為網路迷因。 LeBron喜歡"修飾事實"的名聲已經廣為人知，甚至在一些看似安全的場合也難逃調侃。 "大家都說你常在吹牛"傑克森維爾黑豹的角衛Jalen Ramsey在2022年11月的節目The Shop 中對他說道。這檔節目由LeBron和Maverick Carter的媒體公司製作。 This, in Westbrook’s view, was who LeBron was. And he was done putting up with it. Two days after losing to the Blazers, the Lakers were back at their facility for a practice. Pelinka informed the players a special guest would be coming through. He’d created a program called the Genius Series, where he’d bring in luminaries from various fields—Dwayne “The Rock’’ Johnson, Kendrick Lamar, Elon Musk—to address the team. For this day, he’d secured an A-lister: Will Smith, just six months removed from slapping Chris Rock during the 94th Academy Awards. 在Westbrook看來，這正是LeBron的真面目。而他已經受夠了。 在輸給拓荒者兩天後，湖人隊回到球隊設施進行訓練。Pelinka告訴球員們，今天會有一位 特別來賓前來。他曾創立一個名為"Genius Series"的活動，邀請各領域的傑出人物--例如 巨石強森、Kendrick Lamar、Elon Musk--來與球隊分享經驗。 而這一天，他請到的重量級嘉賓是Will Smith--這距離他在第94屆奧斯卡頒獎典禮上掌摑 Chris Rock，才剛過六個月。 The team gathered in the film room to review the Blazers game. Ham was tough on the group, highlighting all sorts of mistakes that had led to the 0-3 start. When the session concluded, Pelinka came by. He’d already shown Smith the practice court—they shot free throws together— and Jeanie Buss’s office. Now, he told the players, Smith was on his way to them. 球隊全員聚集在影片室，回看與拓荒者的比賽影片。Ham對全隊毫不留情，逐一指出造成開 季0勝3敗的各種失誤。當檢討結束後，Pelinka走了進來。 他此時已經帶Will Smith參觀過訓練場--兩人還一起投了幾顆罰球--以及Jeanie Buss的辦 公室。現在，他告訴球員們，Smith正要過來見他們。 When Pelinka and Ham left to fetch him, LeBron, seated in a middle row, stood up. Y’all got this, he said. He stormed out a back door. Shit, man, Davis said. He stood and followed LeBron out. Stunned, the rest of the players sat there, looking at each other, unsure what to do. “We’re like, ‘Yo, what the fuck is going on?’” one recalled. Westbrook rose next. So, we all leaving? he asked. Nah, Russ, said Patrick Beverley, a brash veteran point guard the Lakers had acquired over the summer. We gotta stay. Westbrook didn’t understand. What do you mean? he asked. Them two guys can do whatever the fuck they want, Beverley said. They won a championship. 當Pelinka和Ham離開去接人時，坐在中間排的LeBron站了起來。 "這交給你們了，"他說道。 接著他從後門急匆匆地離開。 "該死，兄弟，"Davis 說。 他也站起來，跟著LeBron一起走了。 剩下的球員全都愣在原地，互相對望，不知道該怎麼辦。 "我們心想，'喂，這到底是怎麼回事?'"其中一名球員回憶道。 接著Westbrook也站了起來。 "所以，我們也都要走嗎?"他問。 "不，Russ，"Patrick Beverley說道--這位性格強勢的老將控衛是湖人夏天才交易來的。 "我們得留下來。" Westbrook不明白:"你是什麼意思?"他問。 "那兩個傢伙想幹嘛都行，"Beverley說，"他們可是拿過冠軍的。" As the two went back and forth, it became clear to the other players in the room what Westbrook was thinking: As a nine-time All-Star, and former MVP, and future Hall of Famer, why would there be a difference between him and them? Pelinka came back in. We ready? he asked We ain’t ready, Beverley said. We need five minutes. Pelinka left. 當兩人你來我往地爭論時，房間裡其他球員也逐漸明白Westbrook的想法--身為九屆全明星 、前 MVP、未來的名人堂成員，為什麼他和那兩個人之間會有差別待遇? 這時Pelinka回到房間。 "準備好了嗎?"他問。 "還沒，"Beverley回答，"我們還需要五分鐘。" Pelinka聽後轉身離開。 Minutes later, Ham reentered and sat silently at the front of the room as Westbrook and Beverley continued arguing. He then stood up and exited through the same door LeBron and Davis had used. Soon after he returned with both stars. Next, Ham went to get Pelinka and Smith. When they all returned, Smith was greeted with smiles and daps. Smith talked to the players about his new movie, Emancipation. He talked about overcoming adversity. He cracked some jokes at the team’s expense. Then he opened the floor for questions. 幾分鐘後，Ham走了進來，默默地坐在房間前方，看著Westbrook和Beverley繼續爭論。過 了一會兒，他站起身，從LeBron和Davis先前離開的那扇門走了出去。不久，他帶著那兩位 球星一同返回。接著，Ham又出去找來Pelinka和Smith。 當他們全都回到房間時，Smith受到球員們微笑與握拳致意的歡迎。Smith開始談起他的新 電影Emancipation，談到如何克服逆境，還開了幾個拿球隊開玩笑的玩笑。最後，他開放 現場讓球員提問。 LeBron was first. He had a question, he said. Smith answered. Then LeBron had another question. And another after that and another after that and another after that. On and on he went, stretching what was supposed to be a 30-minute session into nearly an hour. “The same guy who was trying to leave is now quoting back movie lines and going through the guy’s whole life story,” one attendee recalled thinking. Seated in the third row, picking at a bowl of fruit, Westbrook watched in disbelief, shaking his head and rolling his eyes every time LeBron spoke. I hate that fake shit, Westbrook said to a teammate afterward, as the Lakers gathered for a team photo. I just can’t do it. LeBron率先舉手發言。他說自己有一個問題，Smith回答了。接著LeBron又問了一個，然後 再一個、再一個、又再一個--問題一個接一個，讓原本預定 30 分鐘的分享會硬是拖成了 將近一個小時。 "那個剛才還想走人的傢伙，現在居然開始背電影台詞、還跟著講起人家的一生，"一名在 場人士回憶當時心想。 坐在第三排、手裡拿著一碗水果的Westbrook看著這一幕，滿臉難以置信，每當LeBron開口 說話時，他都搖搖頭、翻了個白眼。 "我受不了那種虛偽的東西，"Westbrook 在之後與一名隊友說道，當時湖人正準備拍團體 照。"我就是做不來那樣。" The next afternoon, the Lakers posted the picture on social media. 隔天下午，湖人隊將那張團體照發布在社群媒體上。 https://x.com/Lakers/status/1585360902597271552 https://i.imgur.com/o7EIN0b.jpeg
Standing among Lakers players, coaches, and Pelinka was Smith, holding up a custom jersey. There, standing a few feet to Smith’s right, was Westbrook, his face twisted into a scowl. 站在湖人球員、教練與Pelinka之中的，是手舉特製球衣的Smith。而在他右側幾英尺外， Westbrook站著，臉上帶著明顯的怒容。 笑死 應該是偷偷跑出去做功課 然後回來再拖台錢 詹校長 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 104.176.138.216 (美國) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1760999624.A.7EF.html ※ 編輯: EZ78 (104.176.138.216 美國), 10/21/2025 06:37:52
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10/21 06:37, 2小時前 , 1F
酸走步假摔還合理 扯場外八卦沒必要
10/21 06:37, 1F
※ 編輯: EZ78 (104.176.138.216 美國), 10/21/2025 06:41:48
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10/21 06:42, 2小時前 , 2F
老詹這種玩法 注定不是goat
10/21 06:42, 2F
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10/21 06:42, 2小時前 , 3F
怎麼會沒必要
10/21 06:42, 3F
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10/21 06:43, 2小時前 , 4F
龜22那災難性表現，隊友沒公開譙他已經很挺了...
10/21 06:43, 4F
※ 編輯: EZ78 (104.176.138.216 美國), 10/21/2025 06:46:47
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10/21 06:46, 2小時前 , 5F
賣書需要話題、需要炒熱度
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10/21 06:46, 2小時前 , 6F
噴喇叭確實是一個很有效的方式w
10/21 06:46, 6F
噓
10/21 06:46, 2小時前 , 7F
打那麼爛就閉嘴聽訓
10/21 06:46, 7F
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10/21 06:47, 2小時前 , 8F
龜龜當時的防守廢到笑，各種花式漏人，進攻效率也
10/21 06:47, 8F
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10/21 06:47, 2小時前 , 9F
極低…隊友沒公開幹譙已經很客氣了
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10/21 06:49, 2小時前 , 10F
岳布朗
10/21 06:49, 10F
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10/21 06:54, 2小時前 , 11F
因為老詹想賣龜龜所以龜龜不爽 是不爽什麼 是覺得
10/21 06:54, 11F
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10/21 06:54, 2小時前 , 12F
老詹不會賣隊友還是覺得自己強到不會被賣
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10/21 06:54, 2小時前 , 13F
不想被賣吧
10/21 06:54, 13F
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10/21 06:55, 2小時前 , 14F
不能講場外八卦？MPJ跟小A辣難不成是在場上開房間
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10/21 06:55, 2小時前 , 15F
不消耗時間然後還跳投不進……
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10/21 06:56, 2小時前 , 16F
LBJ本來就很虛偽
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10/21 06:57, 2小時前 , 17F
這是能說的嗎
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10/21 06:57, 2小時前 , 18F
不當隊友，人人皆可龜吹隊，看看死神老杜
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10/21 06:58, 2小時前 , 19F
龜這人蠻真性情的，而且撇開球上會腦衝行為，私下
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10/21 06:58, 2小時前 , 20F
人品超好… 他看這種偽君子行為會白眼，不意外吧。
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10/21 06:59, 2小時前 , 21F
矛盾大對決 最真性情的人vs最虛偽的人
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10/21 06:59, 2小時前 , 22F
Pat有夠狗腿....喇叭就是那種人早就知道了 挺龜龜
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10/21 06:59, 2小時前 , 23F
龜大概是那種，要我走人就好好當著我面講，不要用
10/21 06:59, 23F
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10/21 06:59, 2小時前 , 24F
媒體繞一圈讓他知道，直接當面對質又要說不知道。
10/21 06:59, 24F
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10/21 07:00, 2小時前 , 25F
畝斯這種就是公司會升官的性格啊
10/21 07:00, 25F
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10/21 07:00, 2小時前 , 26F
反感喇叭很正常
10/21 07:00, 26F
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10/21 07:01, 2小時前 , 27F
這篇是否代表龜殺vs羊殺
10/21 07:01, 27F
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10/21 07:01, 2小時前 , 28F
這就是輸給kobe原因啊
10/21 07:01, 28F
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10/21 07:01, 2小時前 , 29F
其實老詹和西河的關係只是這本書的配菜
10/21 07:01, 29F
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10/21 07:01, 2小時前 , 30F
實際上到底有沒有去訪問過本人才寫的東西？
10/21 07:01, 30F
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10/21 07:01, 2小時前 , 31F
沒有不就單純是創作文嗎？
10/21 07:01, 31F
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10/21 07:01, 2小時前 , 32F
主要是談論老詹加入湖人後的恩怨情仇
10/21 07:01, 32F
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10/21 07:01, 2小時前 , 33F
我同時是詹吹龜吹詹黑龜殺
10/21 07:01, 33F
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10/21 07:02, 2小時前 , 34F
讓龜龜做自己後面都變反諷了 怎麼不找找自己問題
10/21 07:02, 34F
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10/21 07:02, 2小時前 , 35F
他好像採訪了滿多球隊高層球員之類的 選這時間點也
10/21 07:02, 35F
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10/21 07:02, 2小時前 , 36F
嘿啊 整本書主角是LBJ 這個片段主角才是Russ
10/21 07:02, 36F
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10/21 07:02, 2小時前 , 37F
是很懂流量和熱點
10/21 07:02, 37F
還有 279 則推文
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10/21 09:04, 16分鐘前 , 317F
請詹迷用同樣標準要求上一季+-值全隊倒數的姆斯喔
10/21 09:04, 317F
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10/21 09:04, 16分鐘前 , 318F
之前看過比這更爆的這個感覺還好，反正lbj沒從商很
10/21 09:04, 318F
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10/21 09:04, 16分鐘前 , 319F
可惜，他從商應該會如魚得水不斷的周旋出賣；不過打
10/21 09:04, 319F
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10/21 09:04, 16分鐘前 , 320F
大谷這時候就不會被說是抱腿了 這奇妙
10/21 09:04, 320F
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10/21 09:05, 15分鐘前 , 321F
球也沒話說就是了
10/21 09:05, 321F
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10/21 09:05, 15分鐘前 , 322F
請姆斯爛就閉嘴對吧？
10/21 09:05, 322F
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10/21 09:05, 15分鐘前 , 323F
我家老頭還是流量密碼 寫個書就能蹭一堆流量
10/21 09:05, 323F
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10/21 09:05, 15分鐘前 , 324F
姆咪全都忘記後半季那個爽刷樣了是吧
10/21 09:05, 324F
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10/21 09:05, 15分鐘前 , 325F
反正都無法求證 下面大家哥自亂噴 爽賺書前
10/21 09:05, 325F
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10/21 09:05, 15分鐘前 , 326F
這詹黑邏輯 大谷肯定是抱腿仔
10/21 09:05, 326F
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10/21 09:06, 14分鐘前 , 327F
不要拿棒球比籃球 而且大谷都帶領日本拿過WBC了
10/21 09:06, 327F
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10/21 09:06, 14分鐘前 , 328F
一個沒說自己是GOAT
10/21 09:06, 328F
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10/21 09:06, 14分鐘前 , 329F
這個時候寫手就是正義的了
10/21 09:06, 329F
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10/21 09:07, 13分鐘前 , 330F
用詹粉邏輯 上一季的姆斯+-值全隊倒數就該閉嘴
10/21 09:07, 330F
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10/21 09:07, 13分鐘前 , 331F
給來演講的人一個面子，臨時惡補想幾個問題，倒也
10/21 09:07, 331F
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10/21 09:07, 13分鐘前 , 332F
大谷可沒有關鍵時刻把打席甩鍋給隊友打嘿
10/21 09:07, 332F
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10/21 09:07, 13分鐘前 , 333F
說得過去
10/21 09:07, 333F
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10/21 09:07, 13分鐘前 , 334F
挺龜龜
10/21 09:07, 334F
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10/21 09:08, 12分鐘前 , 335F
龜殺隊出陣
10/21 09:08, 335F
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10/21 09:08, 12分鐘前 , 336F
不意外啊，喇叭最厲害的就是背後公關公司，從還沒
10/21 09:08, 336F
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10/21 09:08, 12分鐘前 , 337F
進聯盟就開始炒作到現在都一個樣喜歡做表面，龜龜
10/21 09:08, 337F
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10/21 09:09, 11分鐘前 , 338F
這種直人看不下去正常。
10/21 09:09, 338F
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10/21 09:09, 11分鐘前 , 339F
用什麼標準要求龜龜就該用什麼標準要求姆斯對吧？
10/21 09:09, 339F
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10/21 09:09, 11分鐘前 , 340F
姆斯現在爛又拿頂薪該像龜龜被姆迷大力檢討了吧？
10/21 09:09, 340F
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10/21 09:09, 11分鐘前 , 341F
剛看完原文，如果是事實，LBJ真的有夠假
10/21 09:09, 341F
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10/21 09:10, 10分鐘前 , 342F
這咖就岳不群+慕容復綜合體，實力全靠營銷出來的假
10/21 09:10, 342F
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10/21 09:10, 10分鐘前 , 343F
君子
10/21 09:10, 343F
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10/21 09:10, 10分鐘前 , 344F
龜不就是標準的好相處但是效率不好被開了才有人緬懷
10/21 09:10, 344F
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10/21 09:11, 9分鐘前 , 345F
這和LBJ虛偽又假掰是獨立事件 可以同時存在的
10/21 09:11, 345F
噓
10/21 09:11, 9分鐘前 , 346F
lbj一直都這樣 沒有什麼是不是事實
10/21 09:11, 346F
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10/21 09:12, 8分鐘前 , 347F
笑死 太扯了
10/21 09:12, 347F
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10/21 09:12, 8分鐘前 , 348F
母獅真的很愛裝+營銷 噁死
10/21 09:12, 348F
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10/21 09:12, 8分鐘前 , 349F
他就媒體捧出來的 也的確很在意數據和虛假的名聲
10/21 09:12, 349F
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10/21 09:12, 8分鐘前 , 350F
但是自己的內涵搭不上 所以有很多要刻意塑造和做功
10/21 09:12, 350F
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10/21 09:12, 8分鐘前 , 351F
課的地方 這幾年一直被搓破後有比較安靜了
10/21 09:12, 351F
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10/21 09:12, 8分鐘前 , 352F
一個做自己菜到不行 一個山羌偽君子 同時成立
10/21 09:12, 352F
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10/21 09:13, 7分鐘前 , 353F
所以為什麼現在晚年有些媒體開始在打落水狗 因為現
10/21 09:13, 353F
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10/21 09:13, 7分鐘前 , 354F
在nba的重心已經不是在他身上
10/21 09:13, 354F
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10/21 09:13, 7分鐘前 , 355F
打那麼爛領頂薪結果還在內心小劇場不爽 這人毛怎麼
10/21 09:13, 355F
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10/21 09:13, 7分鐘前 , 356F
那麼多
10/21 09:13, 356F
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