[外絮] 快艇隨隊:對快艇的20個觀察
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6848751/2025/12/01/clippers-standings-record/
其實就是Law Murray對這個月2-13敗快艇的一些記錄
After spending Friday blowing a 16-point lead at Intuit Dome to a Memphis
Grizzlies team missing four point guards, the LA Clippers on Saturday hosted
a 5-15 Dallas Mavericks team missing their four top bigs: Anthony Davis, P.J.
Washington, Daniel Gafford and Dereck Lively II. The Clippers led by as many
as 10 points and blew that lead, too.
Now, the Clippers are the 5-15 team, losers of 13 of 15 games in November.
This was arguably the worst month in the 56-year history of the organization.
The Clippers have lost 13 games in a month before. They’ve also had worse
20-game starts. But this isn’t like their inaugural season in Buffalo, when
the Braves went 4-15 in December 1970. It isn’t like the San Diego team that
was 1-15 in March 1982, nor the 1988-89 team that lost 28 of 29 to begin the
1989 calendar year.
在星期五主場丟掉16分領先敗給缺少4個控球後衛的灰熊之後，洛杉磯快艇星期六主場迎戰
5勝15敗且缺少陣中4位頂尖長人--Anthony Davis、PJ Washington、Daniel Gafford與
Dereck Lively II--的獨行俠。快艇最多領先10分也同樣丟失了那個領先。
現在，快艇才是那支5勝15敗的隊伍，在11月的15場輸了13場。這可能是56年隊史最糟糕的
一個月。
快艇有過單月輸掉13場比賽。他們也有過更糟的前20場開局。但今年可不是他們在水牛城
的隊史第一季，他們在1970的12月打出了4勝15敗。這也不是他們在聖地牙哥快艇的1982年
3月打出1勝15敗、更不是1988-89那支用29場裡28敗開啟1989年的那支快艇。
These aren’t the 1994-95 Clippers who started 0-16, with the first 13 of
those losses occurring in November. And there was the franchise’s first year
playing at Staples Center, when those Clippers lost 27 of 30 games during
February and March of 2000.
March 2010 was the last time the Clippers lost 13 games in a month. Blake
Griffin, the No. 1 pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, had yet to play a
regular-season game for the team. When Griffin suited up for the first time,
his 2010-11 Clippers started 4-16.
The Clips haven’t had a losing season since acquiring Chris Paul via trade
in December 2011. In fact, the other 29 NBA teams have had at least one
losing season since the last time the Clippers’ last one in 2010-11. The
only time the Clippers had a 10-loss month between the start of the 2011-12
season and the end of last season was when they went 4-10 in November 2017.
That team, coached by Doc Rivers, recovered to win 42 games.
這不是1994-95以0勝16敗開季的快艇(其中13敗發生在11月)。而且那是隊史在Staples
Center的第一季，快艇以30場裡面輸了27場度過了2000年的二月及三月。
2010年3月已經是快艇最後一次單月輸13場比賽了。2009年狀元郎Blake Griffin那年還沒
為快艇打過任何一場比賽。當Griffin正式上場時，他的2010-11年快艇4勝16敗。
快艇自從2011年12月透過交易來Chris Paul之後再也沒有過任何一個勝率不足5成的賽季。
事實上，在這期間NBA剩下所有29支球隊都至少有一年勝率沒有超過五成。上一次快艇有一
個月輸超過10場比賽已經是2017年11月的事情。而那支由Doc Rivers執教的球隊最終扭轉
了這個情況，贏下了42場比賽。
This Clippers team is on track to win 20 games this season, and the context
makes it worse. While its the 20th time they’ve lost at least 13 games in a
month, these Clippers were expected to maybe win 50, as they did the past two
seasons.
The warning signs of this season potentially going sideways were always
present. The Clippers fortified their roster with age this offseason. The
quietest month in the NBA offseason was dominated by an Aspiration scandal
that put chairman Steve Ballmer and star forward Kawhi Leonard in the
crosshairs of a league investigation.
現在這支快艇如果直接放大到整季將只會贏20場比賽，而內容更加糟糕。雖然這已經是隊
史第20次單月輸至少13場比賽，這支快艇原本是被預期可能要贏下50場比賽，如同他們過
去兩季做到的事情。
這個賽季可能走向失控的警訊，其實早已存在。快艇隊在這個休賽季以老將補強了陣容。
而在原本應該是整個NBA最平靜的休賽月份裡，卻被一場Aspiration 醜聞佔據了焦點，讓
球隊主席Steve Ballmer與明星前鋒Kawhi Leonard一同陷入聯盟調查的風暴之中。
Top offseason acquisition Bradley Beal had a knee scope in the offseason, was
limited in training camp and didn’t play any preseason games with Leonard or
All-NBA point guard James Harden. The Clippers began their season by visiting
the Utah Jazz, the worst team in the league last season, and lost by 21
points and trailed by 37 at one point. The following week, the Clippers
failed to break 80 points on the road against the Golden State Warriors.
But when November started, the Clippers had a 3-2 record after a Leonard
game-winning buzzer beater against the New Orleans Pelicans. Now, the
Clippers are already on life support.
休賽季的重磅補強Bradley Beal在休賽期進行了膝蓋關節鏡手術，訓練營受到限制，熱身
賽也沒有和Leonard或NBA年度隊等級的控球後衛James Harden一起出賽。快艇隊以作客對
戰上季聯盟最差猶他爵士開啟球季，結果以21分落敗，甚至一度落後到37分。接下來的一
週，快艇在客場對金州勇士的比賽甚至得分不到80分。
但進入十一月時，快艇靠著Leonard對紐澳良鵜鶘的壓哨絕殺，戰績一度來到3勝2敗。如今
，快艇已經處於命懸一線的狀態。
Here are 20 thoughts that illustrate the worst month in team history:
1. The only game Harden missed this month was when the Clippers visited the
Phoenix Suns on Nov. 6; Harden missed the matchup for personal reasons. In
the team’s other 14 outings, Harden averaged 29.8 points, 8.5 assists and
6.3 rebounds in 36.8 minutes per game. It took extraordinary Harden
performances for the Clippers to win the two games that they did this month:
a 41-point triple-double to escape Dallas in double overtime and a
franchise-record 55 points to escape an afternoon start against the Charlotte
Hornets.
2. Harden is 36 years old. The plan was never for him to be relied on this
much, let alone with his play failing to lead to wins.
以下是20個觀察，說明這支球隊經歷了隊史最糟糕的一個月:
1.本月Harden唯一缺席的比賽，是11月6日作客鳳凰城太陽，那場他因為個人因素未出賽。
在其他14場比賽中，Harden場均36.8分鐘，能繳出29.8分、8.5助攻、6.3籃板。
快艇本月唯二的勝場，靠的都是 Harden 近乎超人級的表現：
面對獨行俠的比賽，他砍下41分大三元，才在雙延長逃出生天。
面對夏洛特黃蜂的下午場，他攻下隊史紀錄的55分，才勉強贏球。
2. Harden 已經 36 歲了。球隊原本從來不是要依賴他到這種程度，更別說他的超神演出
仍無法帶來勝利。
3. Leonard played in the first game the Clippers had in November, against a
Miami Heat team bringing Norman Powell back to the arena. The Clippers had
two days off, while the Heat were on the second night of a back-to-back. Not
only did the Clippers blow an 11-point lead, but Leonard also suffered an
injury to his right foot that required a 10-game absence and a minutes
restriction upon his return.
4. Leonard missed a potential game-winning field goal against the Heat, and
the Clippers haven’t won with him since. Even though Leonard is a two-time
Defensive Player of the Year, he’s not that caliber of defender now, as he
loses his man off the ball, gets beaten in the rare instances he is attacked
and is shielded from defending primary scorers often. Remember the Jim Mora
playoffs rant? “We gotta worry about winning a game right now, first, before
we think about any type of championship,” Leonard said.
3. Leonard在十一月的第一場比賽上場，對手是帶著Norman Powell重返球館的邁阿密熱火
。當時快艇休息了兩天，而熱火是背靠背的第二晚。結果快艇不只把11分領先搞丟，
Leonard還右腳受傷，導致他缺席10場比賽，回歸後也受到出場時間限制。
4. Leonard 在對熱火的比賽中錯失了可能的致勝一擊，而從那之後，快艇就再也沒在他出
賽時贏過球。儘管Leonard曾是兩屆年度最佳防守球員，但他現在已經不是那個等級的防守
者了——他會在無球時漏掉人、在被攻擊的罕見情況下也常被突破，並且經常被保護、不
去防守對方的主要得分手。
還記得 Jim Mora 那段著名的季後賽怒吼嗎？
Leonard現在的心情就像那樣:"我們現在得先想著怎麼贏下一場比賽，再去談什麼冠軍。"
5. Center Ivica Zubac was an All-Defensive Team selection after anchoring
last season’s third-ranked Clippers defense. Now, the Clippers have
plummeted to a bottom-five defense despite the presence of Zubac. The
Clippers don’t get back on defense, don’t defend 3s well, don’t force
turnovers and don’t rebound.
6. Beal was already frustrated with the start of his season because of a
minute restriction that kept him from playing 25 minutes and being held out
of a back-to-back. When he started in Phoenix without Harden or Leonard, Beal
missed 12 of 14 shots. The very next game — also against the Suns — Beal
injured his right hip.
5. 中鋒Ivica Zubac上季扛起快艇排名聯盟第三的防守體系，並入選年度防守球隊。但
如今，即便有Zubac坐鎮，快艇的防守卻一路崩跌到聯盟倒數前五。
快艇現在防守端的問題包括：
回防速度慢
三分線外防守不佳
無法製造失誤
搶不到籃板
(註:另外快艇是近20年來第一次有球隊DRTG單季崩跌10以上)
6. Beal 對於自己賽季開局的狀況早已感到沮喪，因為出場時間限制不讓他打滿 25 分鐘
，也不能打背靠背。當他在對太陽時上場、而Harden與Leonard都缺陣時，他14投只中2。
接著下一場——同樣是對太陽——Beal又傷了右臀部。
7. Four days later, it was revealed that Beal’s new injury was a freak
incident, a season-ending fracture that required surgery. The player that was
essentially guaranteed a starting job upon his arrival — and one that was
heavily recruited by Harden — will now have never played a fourth quarter
for the Clippers this season.
8. Beal’s injury had a domino effect. The most obvious was the insertion of
John Collins in the starting lineup. As much as fans clamored for Collins to
immediately be a starter coming out of camp, head coach Tyronn Lue and his
staff correctly identified the need for Collins to be put in lineups that
would allow him to be comfortable offensively while not being as relied upon
defensively.
7. 四天後，消息揭露Beal的新傷竟然是極其罕見的意外——一個需要手術、直接宣布本季
報銷的骨折。這位加盟時幾乎被保證先發的球員——而且還是Harden力邀加入的人——如
今整個賽季竟然一次第四節都沒有為快艇上場過。
8. Beal的受傷引發骨牌效應，最明顯的就是John Collins被提上先發。雖然球迷早就吵著
要Collins從訓練營開始就直接先發，但Tyronn Lue與教練團非常清楚：
Collins需要被放在能讓他進攻端舒服發揮、而防守端不會被過度暴露的組合裡。也就是說
，讓他直接先發原本並不是最好的方案，但 Beal 的缺席迫使快艇不得不這麼做。
9. Collins had to start once Beal’s injury was serious. In 11 games as a
starter, Collins has only two assists while making only 8 of 32 3-pointers
(25 percent). Additionally, a Clippers team that led the league in defensive
rebounding percentage last season is down to 24th in that category this
season, with Collins averaging a career-low 4.9 rebounds per game.
10. Brook Lopez was the Clippers’ biggest free-agent acquisition, as he was
supposed to be a legitimate backup to Zubac while providing spacing
offensively and rim protection defensively. To a degree, Lopez has done that.
Among Clippers, only Harden, Nicolas Batum and Leonard have made more 3s than
Lopez this season, while only Zubac and Derrick Jones Jr. blocked more shots.
9. 在Beal的傷勢被證實嚴重後，Collins 必須頂上先發。但在11場先發比賽裡，Collins
只送出2次助攻，三分球32投8中(25%)。
此外，快艇上季是全聯盟防守籃板率第一的球隊，但本季已掉到第24名，而 Collins的場
均籃板僅4.9個，是生涯新低。
10. Brook Lopez是快艇休賽季最重要的自由球員簽約，本來預期他能成為Zubac的真正替
補，同時在進攻提供外線空間、防守端提供護框。
在某種程度上，他確實做到這些。
在快艇隊內，本季只有Harden、Nicolas Batum、Leonard比他投進更多三分;而火鍋方面，
也只有Zubac和Derrick Jones Jr.的火鍋數比他多。
11. But Lopez’s lack of foot speed, combined with the offense’s complete
lack of variety, exposed the 37-year-old as a one-dimensional player on both
ends of the floor who contributed to the league’s worst fast-break
situation. After the Clippers were outscored by 24 points in Lopez’ minutes
against the Cleveland Cavaliers, Lue removed Lopez from the rotation in favor
of Kobe Brown, a 2023 first-round pick who had his fourth-year option
declined and is a career 27 percent 3-point shooter.
12. Chris Paul was the last of the four veterans brought in to upgrade the
Clippers. But after the Clippers were outscored by 24 points in Paul’s
minutes against the Oklahoma City Thunder on Nov. 4, Paul was phased out of
the rotation, not playing at all in five consecutive games.
11. 但Lopez的腳步速度不足，加上快艇進攻完全缺乏多樣性，使這位37歲的老將在攻防兩
端都被暴露成單一功能的球員，並成為全聯盟最糟快攻防守數據的一部分。在對克里夫蘭
騎士的比賽中，快艇在Lopez上場的時間竟被打出-24的分差，於是Lue將他從輪替移除，改
用Kobe Brown——一位 2023 年首輪選秀、第四年球隊選項已被拒絕、生涯三分命中率只
有27%的年輕球員。
12. Chris Paul是快艇為提升戰力所引進的四名老將中最後一位。但在11月4日對奧克拉荷
馬雷霆的比賽中，快艇在Paul上場期間也被打出-24的分差。之後Paul逐漸被移出輪替，連
續五場比賽完全沒有出場。
13. Paul posted on social media the morning before the Charlotte game that he
was on his last ride. The Clippers won that afternoon and headed to Ohio to
finish the road trip. Paul was not made available to reporters. The Clippers
then lost in downtown Los Angeles against the Lakers and then suffered
back-to-back losses against the Memphis Grizzlies and the Mavericks. They don
’t play at home again until Dec. 15.
14. Jones played 40 minutes in the double-overtime win in Dallas. The next
game in Boston, Jaylen Brown dove for a loose ball and hit an airborne Jones,
injuring Jones’ right knee. It was revealed that Jones sprained his MCL, an
injury that carries a six-week timetable.
13. 在對黃蜂的比賽前一個早上，Paul在社群媒體上發文，表示自己"已經是最後一趟旅程
了"。快艇當天下午贏球，接著前往俄亥俄結束客場之旅。Paul當天沒有接受媒體訪問。之
後快艇回到洛杉磯市中心對戰湖人落敗，接著又連續輸給曼菲斯灰熊和獨行俠。他們直到
12月15日才會再次在主場比賽。
14. Derrick Jones Jr.在快艇對獨行俠的雙延長勝利中打了40分鐘。下一場作客波士頓時
，Jaylen Brown在撲球時撞上正處於空中的Jones，導致Jones的右膝受傷。隨後檢查結果
顯示，他是內側副韌帶(MCL)扭傷，預計至少需要六週恢復。
15. Jones earned a starting job because of his point-of-attack defense, his
ability to weaponize his athleticism and his adequate 3-point shooting (34.8
percent on 3.5 attempts per game this season). But his energy as one of the
few reliable players on the team under the age of 30 was perhaps his most
indispensable trait, something even opponents like Orlando Magic point guard
Jalen Suggs noticed was missing from the soulless Clippers moving forward.
16. Even with Jones, the Clippers have not been as good at the point of
attack defensively as they were the season before. It’s something that has
been pointed out by Lue, Zubac and other players. Kris Dunn was excellent in
that role with the Clippers last season while providing ballhandling relief.
But Beal was brought in specifically to keep Dunn in a reserve role, which
would minimize the impact of Dunn’s occasional challenges of providing
threatening offense.
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15. Jones 之所以能拿下先發位置，是因為他的對球防守能力、能把自身運動能力最大化
的打法，以及還算合格的三分能力(本季場均 3.5 次出手，命中率 34.8%)。但更重要的是
，他是球隊少數 30 歲以下、且真正可靠的球員之一，他所帶來的活力與能量是快艇最不
可或缺的特質。甚至連對手如奧蘭多魔術的控衛Jalen Suggs都注意到，當快艇少了Jones
，那支球隊往前走時顯得毫無靈魂。
16. 即便Jones在陣中，快艇的對球防守依舊遠不如上個賽季。這點Lue、Zubac與其他球員
都曾點出來。Kris Dunn上季在這個角色中表現出色，同時也能在控球上替球隊分擔壓力。
但Beal當初會被引進，就是為了讓Dunn能維持替補定位，避免他的進攻威脅不足在場上被
放大、拖累整體空間與節奏。
17. Now, Dunn is starting again because of Beal and Jones’ injuries. While
Dunn still collects steals, he has been less reliable on and off the ball
defensively while continuing to give opposing defenses a player to ignore
while they make Harden’s offensive efforts as challenging as possible. The
Clippers have been outscored by 100 points in Dunn’s minutes this season,
the worst on the team.
18. Bogdan Bogdanovibegan the season as the odd man out of the Clippers’
rotation of 11 veterans. He was simply behind everyone else as he dealt with
previously unrevealed knee and ankle injuries in the 2025 playoffs that
required a month off, a multi-week hamstring ailment from EuroBasket in the
summer and back woes in the preseason opener. Now, Bogdanoviis dealing
with a hip contusion that has cost him five straight games.
17. 現在因為Beal和Jones都受傷，Dunn又被迫回到先發。雖然他依然能抄球，但在防守端
(無論有球或無球)穩定度都下降，同時他在進攻端依舊是對手可以完全無視的點，讓對手
更能集中火力去削弱Harden的進攻空間。本季快艇在Dunn上場的時間裡，淨輸了100分——
是全隊最差的數字。
18. Bogdan Bogdanovic在球季開始時，是快艇11名老將輪替中最不受重用的一位。原因是
他在2025季後賽時膝蓋與腳踝有未公開的傷勢，需要休養一個月；夏天在歐洲杯又出現數
週的腿後肌傷勢，季前賽首戰還碰上背部不適。如今，Bogdanovic又因為髖部挫傷缺席了
連續五場比賽。
19. The absence of Bogdanovicompounds the Beal injury, as the Clippers
have a complete lack of dribble-pass-shoot options beyond Harden and Leonard.
The available young players have unsurprisingly struggled to make an impact.
Two-way contract rookie Kobe Sanders has been given the most opportunity,
even starting games with Leonard out, due to his comfort shooting the ball
and playing through contact. But the more Sanders has played, the more the
NBA has taken advantage of him. Jordan Miller missed 12 of 15 games in
November because of injury, while Cam Christie made only 31.6 percent of his
3s in November despite being billed as a shooter.
20. Due to injury, the five Clippers who played the most in November are
Harden, Zubac, Collins, Dunn and Batum. Lue will always find a spot for Batum
because he understands where to be and defends multiple positions. But Batum
struggles to rebound, has made only two shots inside the 3-point line all
season and had more turnovers than assists in November.
19. Bogdanovic的缺席讓Beal的傷勢問題更加嚴重，因為快艇在Harden和Leonard之外完全
缺乏具備運球、傳球、投射三威脅能力的球員。現有的年輕球員也不意外地難以產生即戰
力。
-雙向合約新秀Kobe Sanders因為敢出手、敢對抗，在Leonard缺陣時甚至被排進先發，但
他打得越多，NBA 球隊就越利用他的弱點。
-Jordan Miller因傷缺席了11月的15場比賽中的12場。
-Cam Christie雖然被視為射手，但11月的三分命中率只有31.6%。
20. 因傷病問題，快艇在11月出賽時間最多的前五人是Harden、Zubac、Collins、Dunn和
Batum。Lue之所以總會替Batum找到上場空間，是因為他懂得站位、能防守多個位置。但
Batum的缺點同樣明顯:抓不住籃板、本季禁區內只投進2球、11月的失誤數甚至多於助攻。
It has been a particularly bad month for Lue, who has seen his team lose five
games after holding leads of more than 10 points this month. Seven of the 15
games the Clippers have lost this season have been against teams they swept
last season. Only three teams had a worse third-quarter point differential
this month than the Clippers. The team allowed five players to score at least
35 points, culminating with this year’s No. 1 pick Cooper Flagg recording
his first career 30-point game.
The Clippers were embarrassed by a Denver Nuggets team that ended their
season. They were embarrassed by a Thunder team that owns their 2026
first-round pick. They were embarrassed by a Lakers team that they share the
city with. Lue suggested that “Next Man Up” is more difficult when a
two-way contract is replacing Kawhi Leonard, but his team blew huge leads at
home to teams starting Keaton Wallace in place of Trae Young and Vince
Williams in place of Ja Morant. When the Clippers are down more than 15
points, they stay down; they are 0-10 when they trail by more than 15, a far
cry from Clippers teams that used to hit comebacks.
這對Lue來說是一個異常慘烈的月份——快艇本月已有5場比賽是在領先10分以上後被逆轉
落敗。而本季15場失利中，有7場是輸給上個賽季曾經橫掃的對手。整個11月，聯盟中只有
三支球隊的第三節淨分比快艇更差。快艇讓五名球員砍下至少35分，最終甚至讓今年狀元
郎Cooper Flagg攻下生涯首度30分。
快艇被曾在季後賽終結他們賽季的丹佛金塊羞辱；被握有他們2026首輪籤的雷霆爆打；也
被與他們同城的湖人打得難堪。Lue說過:"當替補Kawhi Leonard的人是雙向合約球員時，
想講'下一個頂上(Next Man Up)'這句話其實沒那麼容易。"但諷刺的是，快艇在主場卻輸
給了首發換成Keaton Wallace(代替Trae Young)、以及Vince Williams(代替Ja Morant)的
球隊，甚至是在大幅領先後被翻盤。當快艇落後超過15分時，他們一蹶不振——本季在落
後15分以上的比賽中，他們是0勝10敗，完全不像以往那些擅長逆轉的快艇隊。
Ballmer told The Athletic that he speaks with Lue and basketball president
Lawrence Frank about how to turn things around. Ballmer also made it clear
that the job to turn it around is on Lue and Frank. Only five teams have
started 5-15 or worse and made the playoffs since the field expanded to 16
teams for the 1983-84 season. But one of those teams was a 4-16 Pelicans team
that knocked the Clippers out of the Play-In Tournament in 2022.
That precedent is about the only hope the Clippers have, and they are being
led by a group of stars and a head coach who have never been down this bad.
Ballmer告訴The Athletic，他已經與Lue以及籃球事務總裁Lawrence Frank討論如何讓球
隊止跌回升。Ballmer也明確表示:扭轉局勢的責任在Lue和Frank身上。(心得:可以解讀成
他們兩個暫時不會滾蛋，也可以解讀成要是不能扭轉也準備走人。)自從季後賽隊伍在
1983-84賽季擴編為16隊以來，只有五支球隊曾在開季5勝15敗或更差的情況下仍闖進季後
賽。但其中一支，就是2022年那支4勝16敗開季、最後在附加賽淘汰快艇的鵜鶘。
那段前例大概是快艇如今唯一能寄望的希望。而帶領他們走出泥沼的，卻是一群從未經歷
過這麼低潮的明星球員與總教練。
心得:
然後再以一場三節大屠殺開啟12月+客場之旅
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