[花邊] 鬼神談F2被驅逐出場:正常身體對抗

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https://x.com/duanerankin/status/1998977612324958632?s=46 Suns guard Grayson Allen on flagrant 2 on Chet Holmgren, ejection: "Felt like I gave a good foul within the physicality of the game and what was going on both e nds, especially with the bumps on screens. Some of the hits on blockouts that we re happening. It was straight up. He was cutting into me. Definitely a foul, but I thought it was within the physicality of the game. I think the reaction after wards kind of played into that." Grayson Allen 談對 Chet Holmgren 的二級惡意犯規與被驅逐:「我覺得我給的是一個在 比賽強度下合理的犯規,兩邊都有很多身體接觸,像掩護時的撞擊、卡位時的碰撞。我是正 常身體對抗,他切進來碰到我。雖然確實是犯規,但我覺得都在比賽對抗的範圍內。我覺得 後續的反應也影響了判決。」 On if he was surprised it was a flagrant 2: "When (lead officials James Williams ) said the explanation, I thought that was the description of a flagrant 1. They looked at it a bunch of times. I didn't feel like there was wind up. I braced m yself. Definitely delivered a bump and a hard foul, but it was straight up. It w asn't like Mark (Williams) last game when he was flying in the air (fouled by T- Wolves big Rudy Gobert that led to flagrant 2, ejection)." 談到是否對二級惡意犯規感到意外:「當主審(James Williams)講解時,我原本以為那就 是描述一級惡意而已。他們回看了好幾次。我不覺得我有蓄力,我只是做好準備、給了一個 撞擊,是一次比較重的犯規,但都是正常身體對抗。這不是像上一場 Mark(Williams)那 種,他整個人在空中被撞(被 Rudy Gobert 撞到、吹二級惡意並驅逐)。」 On level of physicality reaching a heightened level: "They're obviously a physic al team and that's part of their identity. That's part of how when you play agai nst them the game is going to be played. Us as a team, we're a little bit like t hat, too. Any big games like this, regardless of the score, I feel like physical ity is going to build up throughout the game. As players, we just play off of wh at gets let go and what does/doesn't get called and try to match the lines. I th ink our game against them got more physical as it went on with us matching their physicality and them matching our physicality. That back-and-forth just kind of builds throughout the game." 談到比賽身體對抗是否被拉高:「雷霆本來就是一支身體對抗很強的球隊,這是他們的風格 。打他們時比賽就會變成那個樣子。我們球隊其實也有類似的特質。這種大比賽,不管比數 怎麼樣,身體對抗一定會一路累積。球員就是看裁判什麼尺度會放、什麼不會放,然後去調 整。這場比賽越打越有對抗性,是因為我們在跟他們對抗、他們也在跟我們對抗,這種來回 的強度就是會逐漸累積。」 影片:https://reurl.cc/nlmER2 感覺真的還好吧 判二級感覺誇張了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 182.233.54.105 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1765463499.A.0E6.html

12/11 22:36, 2小時前 , 1F
跟踢蛋比起來真的還好
12/11 22:36, 1F

12/11 22:36, 2小時前 , 2F
f1 f2都能接受吧
12/11 22:36, 2F

12/11 22:37, 2小時前 , 3F
以他的水準確實還好
12/11 22:37, 3F

12/11 22:37, 2小時前 , 4F
可能以為是瞄準頸部以上所以給F2吧,但真的還好
12/11 22:37, 4F

12/11 22:38, 2小時前 , 5F
某隊成天說身體對抗強 結果就是我撞你可以 你撞我
12/11 22:38, 5F

12/11 22:38, 2小時前 , 6F
就F2驅逐出場 這樣要別人怎麼打 辛苦鬼神了
12/11 22:38, 6F

12/11 22:41, 2小時前 , 7F
盧小比應該先關心一下意圖毀滅別人職業生涯的狗貝
12/11 22:41, 7F

12/11 22:42, 2小時前 , 8F
小盧好了啦 請問今天哪球這樣幹太陽 你也辛苦了
12/11 22:42, 8F

12/11 22:42, 2小時前 , 9F
這麼晚了還在帶風向 小盧辛苦了 晚安喔
12/11 22:42, 9F

12/11 22:44, 2小時前 , 10F
有部分也是分差過大怕後續火氣上來先警告 反正已經
12/11 22:44, 10F

12/11 22:44, 2小時前 , 11F
不影響比賽勝負了
12/11 22:44, 11F

12/11 22:51, 2小時前 , 12F
鬼神脾氣有收斂啦,不然前面一個回合Chet對他又推
12/11 22:51, 12F

12/11 22:51, 2小時前 , 13F
又拌,照以前可能真功夫就出來了
12/11 22:51, 13F

12/11 22:51, 2小時前 , 14F
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12/11 22:52, 2小時前 , 15F
影片前十秒有導火線的原因
12/11 22:52, 15F

12/11 22:55, 2小時前 , 16F
這影片就有啦 Chet 直接把鬼神從後面推倒不是?gtg
12/11 22:55, 16F

12/11 22:55, 2小時前 , 17F
ra敢回應嗎?
12/11 22:55, 17F

12/11 22:55, 2小時前 , 18F
鬼神幹人的歷史,可以做成一部專輯
12/11 22:55, 18F

12/11 22:56, 2小時前 , 19F
啊!雷霆迷從來不敢面對自己球隊多骯髒,忘了忘了
12/11 22:56, 19F

12/11 22:58, 2小時前 , 20F
這球要看慢動作 由下往上推(胸頸)所以判比較嚴重
12/11 22:58, 20F

12/11 22:59, 2小時前 , 21F
如果單純往肚子那邊推應該不至於F2才對
12/11 22:59, 21F

12/11 23:02, 2小時前 , 22F
再看一次 Chet還用腳去重壓鬼神小腿 太扯
12/11 23:02, 22F

12/11 23:02, 2小時前 , 23F
前天狗貝拐馬威領F2就沒看你盧比歐出來伸張正義,
12/11 23:02, 23F

12/11 23:02, 2小時前 , 24F
反倒是雷霆禁區推擠就出來蹦蹦跳了真棒:)
12/11 23:02, 24F

12/11 23:03, 2小時前 , 25F
啊!搬救援啦 雷霆迷都這個水準嗎
12/11 23:03, 25F

12/11 23:03, 2小時前 , 26F
笑死 真的客氣了
12/11 23:03, 26F

12/11 23:03, 2小時前 , 27F
哪裡正常對抗?
12/11 23:03, 27F

12/11 23:03, 2小時前 , 28F
今天box怎麼不酸一下了,怕前天輸太陽迴力鏢打自己
12/11 23:03, 28F

12/11 23:03, 2小時前 , 29F
嗎嘻嘻。
12/11 23:03, 29F

12/11 23:05, 2小時前 , 30F
Chet先幹人 真好意思
12/11 23:05, 30F

12/11 23:05, 2小時前 , 31F
gtgra還要靠AD東扯西扯來救喔?看影片阿
12/11 23:05, 31F

12/11 23:11, 2小時前 , 32F
好啦盧比歐還是先關心你家狗貝吧 又髒又狠拐人朝報
12/11 23:11, 32F

12/11 23:11, 2小時前 , 33F
銷去的還裝沒事
12/11 23:11, 33F

12/11 23:14, 2小時前 , 34F
狗貝本來就髒阿 我也不是第一天說 你敢說Chet在裁
12/11 23:14, 34F

12/11 23:14, 2小時前 , 35F
判面前幹倒人 沒被吹很扯 又把人絆倒更扯 活該被鬼
12/11 23:14, 35F

12/11 23:14, 2小時前 , 36F
神處理嗎?
12/11 23:14, 36F

12/11 23:15, 2小時前 , 37F
我也覺得Chet 這兩招很狠 鬼神傷病史不少 Chet意圖
12/11 23:15, 37F

12/11 23:15, 2小時前 , 38F
害人報銷阿
12/11 23:15, 38F

12/11 23:20, 1小時前 , 39F
看了 差很多耶 我回應了小盧^^
12/11 23:20, 39F

12/11 23:20, 1小時前 , 40F
鬼神以前的比賽集錦可以拍一整套武林秘笈了,Chet
12/11 23:20, 40F

12/11 23:20, 1小時前 , 41F
你還不知道你們家剁師傅的功夫只配給以前的鬼神擦
12/11 23:20, 41F

12/11 23:20, 1小時前 , 42F
鞋嗎?
12/11 23:20, 42F

12/11 23:21, 1小時前 , 43F
Chet推人沒被吹鬼神想幹回來正常啊,裁判就怕繼續
12/11 23:21, 43F

12/11 23:21, 1小時前 , 44F
鬧大才趕人這都能戳到你G點。
12/11 23:21, 44F

12/11 23:21, 1小時前 , 45F
差很多喔 你講得出口我也是佩服你
12/11 23:21, 45F

12/11 23:21, 1小時前 , 46F
所以我說你們隊先幹人被裁判容許,後面雙標被幹回
12/11 23:21, 46F

12/11 23:21, 1小時前 , 47F
去就哭哭啼啼很好笑啊
12/11 23:21, 47F

12/11 23:22, 1小時前 , 48F
差很多啊 有什麼不敢講 差很多差很多差很多
12/11 23:22, 48F

12/11 23:22, 1小時前 , 49F
反倒是你看起來很容易被戳吧 東扯西扯的 髒就是髒
12/11 23:22, 49F

12/11 23:22, 1小時前 , 50F
扯一堆
12/11 23:22, 50F

12/11 23:22, 1小時前 , 51F
我佩服你啊 建議大家都去看影片Chet 有多噁
12/11 23:22, 51F

12/11 23:23, 1小時前 , 52F
咦 在哭哭啼啼的不是盧小比嗎XD
12/11 23:23, 52F

12/11 23:23, 1小時前 , 53F
看三百次還是差好多喔 大家快去看
12/11 23:23, 53F

12/11 23:23, 1小時前 , 54F
笑死 就繼續吧 雷迷講半天只敢朝我id鬼叫 不敢面對
12/11 23:23, 54F

12/11 23:23, 1小時前 , 55F
Chet和整個雷霆隊的骯髒動作 可憐啊
12/11 23:23, 55F

12/11 23:24, 1小時前 , 56F
有時間當槓精先寫信叫康總炒掉Finch吧XDD喔不對
12/11 23:24, 56F

12/11 23:24, 1小時前 , 57F
Finch這咖只會抱怨裁判的剛好很配你這種咖
12/11 23:24, 57F

12/11 23:24, 1小時前 , 58F
要論害人報銷狗貝前天那個才猛,可以拉下來保護對
12/11 23:24, 58F

12/11 23:24, 1小時前 , 59F
手硬要飛身肘擊在空中的馬威,害人重摔後還假意要
12/11 23:24, 59F

12/11 23:24, 1小時前 , 60F
扶,這一套連招用起來是行雲流水毫不拖沓呢:)
12/11 23:24, 60F

12/11 23:24, 1小時前 , 61F
Chet這菜逼八哪比得上想多了
12/11 23:24, 61F

12/11 23:25, 1小時前 , 62F
不是 就看了 不一樣啊 又變成針對你 好難斥候
12/11 23:25, 62F

12/11 23:27, 1小時前 , 63F
真的是太久沒發威忘了鬼神為什麼叫鬼神
12/11 23:27, 63F

12/11 23:27, 1小時前 , 64F
以前鬼腳鬼膝,現在終於連鬼手都練成了
12/11 23:27, 64F

12/11 23:27, 1小時前 , 65F
盧比歐整天只敢朝雷迷鬼叫 不願面對狗貝和自身狂跳
12/11 23:27, 65F

12/11 23:27, 1小時前 , 66F
針的事實 可憐啊
12/11 23:27, 66F

12/11 23:28, 1小時前 , 67F
能自嗨到這種程度你也是很猛
12/11 23:28, 67F

12/11 23:29, 1小時前 , 68F
49分差,不必要的非籃球動作會被裁判視為火氣打出
12/11 23:29, 68F

12/11 23:29, 1小時前 , 69F
來了
12/11 23:29, 69F

12/11 23:30, 1小時前 , 70F
鬼神今日有失準
12/11 23:30, 70F

12/11 23:33, 1小時前 , 71F
雷能你不能
12/11 23:33, 71F

12/11 23:37, 1小時前 , 72F
F1比較合理 Chet前面那球也是犯規了但沒吹
12/11 23:37, 72F

12/11 23:38, 1小時前 , 73F
Chet這推擠哪比得上狗貝類拜能把G蛙打到氣胸的一拐
12/11 23:38, 73F

12/11 23:38, 1小時前 , 74F
噁:)
12/11 23:38, 74F

12/11 23:40, 1小時前 , 75F
應該是對於慣犯的判罰,只是搞不懂嘴綠都沒這待遇還
12/11 23:40, 75F

12/11 23:40, 1小時前 , 76F
都可以在場上大小叫都沒事
12/11 23:40, 76F

12/11 23:41, 1小時前 , 77F
嘴綠有一年大暴走做這種動作也是會被趕出去的
12/11 23:41, 77F

12/11 23:42, 1小時前 , 78F
的確是chet先髒的,鬼神報復也該吹F,但感覺F2有點
12/11 23:42, 78F

12/11 23:42, 1小時前 , 79F
過頭了
12/11 23:42, 79F

12/11 23:42, 1小時前 , 80F
鬼神有先例,跟嘴綠一樣是聯盟關照對象,就吞下去
12/11 23:42, 80F

12/11 23:42, 1小時前 , 81F
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12/11 23:44, 1小時前 , 82F
前一球Chet這種背後偷幹比較沒品+1 鬼神正面反撞OK
12/11 23:44, 82F

12/11 23:45, 1小時前 , 83F
雙方犯規 一般犯規 F1都不意外
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12/11 23:45, 1小時前 , 84F
F2出場太過頭了
12/11 23:45, 84F

12/11 23:46, 1小時前 , 85F
這球真的還好
12/11 23:46, 85F

12/11 23:50, 1小時前 , 86F
Chet自己先弄人才被弄 雷迷真的有在看比賽嗎?
12/11 23:50, 86F

12/11 23:51, 1小時前 , 87F
推我家巷口哨子
12/11 23:51, 87F

12/11 23:52, 1小時前 , 88F
一個是卡位,一個是脖子招呼。差很多吧
12/11 23:52, 88F

12/11 23:54, 1小時前 , 89F
還是籃下卡位是先來先得,那chet真髒
12/11 23:54, 89F

12/11 23:57, 1小時前 , 90F
硬漢籃球
12/11 23:57, 90F

12/11 23:59, 1小時前 , 91F
拜託,這種咖都有人護航?
12/11 23:59, 91F

12/11 23:59, 1小時前 , 92F
Chet連髒兩次裁判也沒吹 畢竟聯盟乾兒子
12/11 23:59, 92F
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