[外絮] 沒LBJ贏球 富保羅避談原因 搭檔稱有季後詹

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https://open.spotify.com/episode/0gVV1aOcleb6ZHuCBxIF8p Game over with max kellerman and rich paul 從38:50開始 Max: Luka had a great game last night. LeBron didn't play. Luka and Reeves beat the Wolves, who didn't play well, but T-Wolves have a hellified starting five. That's a really nice starting five. And the Lakers beat them handily. And Luka had a great game. This is the question, Rich, because I know there's chatter. They play better with that. You know, the stats say they're not a good offensive team with LeBron when you add him to those guys, and they're a very good offensive team. Let's assume for a second that LeBron is going to make them better when they're all playing together in the playoffs, okay? Have we written off the Lakers too soon as contenders, as real contenders? Did we write them off too soon? My assumption is, especially in the playoffs, LeBron elevates whatever they can do. Have we written them off too soon? Luka 昨晚打得超好。LeBron 沒上。Luka 跟 Reaves 聯手擊敗了灰狼,雖然灰狼那場本 身打得不怎麼樣,但灰狼的先發五人真的很有料,是一組非常不錯的先發陣容。結果湖人 還是贏得算蠻輕鬆的,而且 Luka 打了一場很棒的比賽。問題就在這裡,Rich, 因為我知道外面已經開始有人在講了:湖人是不是沒有 LeBron 反而打得更好? 你知道,數據上看起來,當 LeBron 跟這幾個人一起打時,他們的進攻其實不算好; 但沒有他時,他們反而是一支非常強的進攻球隊。 那我們先假設一件事: 到了季後賽,只要3個人一起打,LBJ還是會讓球隊變更好,好嗎? 那問題是,我們是不是太早把湖人從爭冠行列裡劃掉了?我們是不是太早不把他們當成真 正的爭冠隊了?我的預設是,尤其到了季後賽,LeBron 會把球隊原本能做的事情再往上 拉一個層級。所以我們是不是太早看衰湖人了 Rich: I was at the game last night. I thought the Lakers played a really good game. I thought the Timberwolves was a little flat, though, to start. I thought both teams was flat to start. But they strung along a couple of good games there to win, you know. Look, I think anytime you have great talent, you always have a puncher's chance. It's all about matchups in the playoffs. It really is. You can get rolling. If everybody can get rolling, I thought some of the road guys have been playing extremely well. So we'll see. 我昨晚人在現場。我覺得湖人打了一場很不錯的比賽。 不過我也覺得灰狼開局有點沒進入狀況。老實說,我覺得兩隊一開始都有點慢熟。 但湖人最近確實是連著打出幾場不錯的比賽,然後也贏下來了。 不過你知道,我的看法是,只要你有頂級天賦,你永遠都還是有機會一拳把人打倒。 到了季後賽,一切都還是看對戰組合。真的就是這樣。 你有可能突然打出氣勢,如果大家都能一起進入狀態,我覺得有些客場角色球員最近打得 真的非常好。所以,接下來就看吧。 Max: You know what I got to say about what I think happened one this year? JJ did such a great job coaching early when he never had his crew together that I think they may have gotten a little used to playing a certain way in order to win games without all three of them. Remember, they were winning with just Luka, with just Reeves, with just LeBron. They were 2 of those guys. And they hadn't had enough reps figuring out how to do that winning formula with all three of them, right, because they've relied heavily on one or two of them early in the season. And then, I'm still sitting here with that quote from Deandre Ayton in my head. “They want me to beat Clint Capella" Like, if you, none of that's gonna work. This is a team without a big. If, you know, Jackson Hayes plays hard, he wasn't playing last night. But if Deandre Ayton is not gonna star in his role, as you say, Lakers aren't gonna do anything in the playoffs. But if he has a coming to God moment, right, like where he's understanding that actually he will amplify his value by starring in his role,the Lakers might do a little something. They're not gonna get out of the West, but they could play spoiler. 你知道我怎麼看今年這支球隊嗎?我覺得 JJ 一開始執教真的做得太好了,因為他在陣容 一直湊不齊的情況下,還是把球隊帶得很好。結果反而讓這支球隊有點習慣了某一種贏球 方式,那種在三巨頭沒有一起上時的贏球模式。 你想想看,他們之前靠 Luka 贏過球、靠 Reaves 贏過球、靠 LeBron 也贏過球。 甚至很多時候是三個裡面只靠其中兩個。問題是,他們一直沒有足夠的實戰回合去摸索: 三個人同時在場時,到底要怎麼維持那套贏球公式。 因為球季前段,他們其實很依賴其中一個人,或兩個人去撐嘛。然後,我到現在腦中還一 直記得 Deandre Ayton 那句話。「他們要我去打爆 Clint Capela。」 如果是這種心態,那整套都不會成功。因為這是一支沒有真正大個子的球隊。 Jackson Hayes 很拚,昨晚他沒打。但如果 Deandre Ayton 沒辦法在自己的角色裡打出 明星價值,像你剛剛講的,那湖人在季後賽什麼事都做不了。 可如果他突然有一天想通了,真的頓悟了,理解到其實只要他能把自己的角色演好、而且 演到極致,他反而會讓自己的價值被放大,那湖人也許還是能搞出一點事情。 他們應該是衝不出西區啦,但他們有可能當攪局者。 Rich: I think the goal is going to the playoffs. You want to be whole, you want to be healthy. 我覺得目標就是先進季後賽。你會希望到那時候全員到齊,而且健康。 備註 之前輸球檢討Luka AR都很大聲 現在怎麼不敢講皇上XD 還有這種假設 Let's assume for a second that LeBron is going to make them better when they're all playing together in the playoffs 「我們先假設一件事: 到了季後賽,只要3個人一起打,LBJ還是會讓球隊變更好,好嗎」 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 111.248.197.34 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1773319054.A.1CB.html ※ 編輯: usnavyseal (111.248.197.34 臺灣), 03/12/2026 20:38:19

03/12 20:40, 2小時前 , 1F
檢討77 我重磅出拳 / 遇到樂邦 我唯唯諾諾
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03/12 20:40, 2小時前 , 2F
場上輸球怪隊友 場下贏球靜悄悄
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03/12 20:42, 2小時前 , 3F
被排了之後換吹季後詹,真的厲害
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03/12 20:43, 2小時前 , 4F
「到時候LeBron還是會讓球隊變得更好」所以現在是Le
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03/12 20:43, 2小時前 , 5F
Bron不想要球隊變得更好還是怎樣?
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03/12 20:43, 2小時前 , 6F
為什麼垢(自稱)不上場後連頓寶都活過來了啊 你有
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03/12 20:43, 2小時前 , 7F
頭緒嗎
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03/12 20:44, 2小時前 , 8F
這不是之前大聲囔囔 執意要賣掉077+AR的富寶嗎
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03/12 20:45, 2小時前 , 9F
縮起來的樣子看了真有趣
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03/12 20:46, 2小時前 , 10F
如果今天是77休養然後姆斯帶隊贏球 我就不信他們
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03/12 20:46, 2小時前 , 11F
胡言亂語了,慘
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03/12 20:46, 2小時前 , 12F
的嘴臉會是現在這樣 肯定是馬上大叫就該賣掉77
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03/12 20:46, 2小時前 , 13F
不知所云到天邊
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03/12 20:47, 2小時前 , 14F
網軍側翼的特徵就是硬凹,這齣政治鬧劇表演還有看
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03/12 20:48, 2小時前 , 15F
這咖真的跟姆咪一個樣 果然是姆咪王
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03/12 20:48, 2小時前 , 16F
發現自己臉被打爛了就開始扯別的
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03/12 20:48, 2小時前 , 17F
忘了之前要湖人賣77AR留下敗球王姆斯嗎 笑死
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03/12 20:48, 2小時前 , 18F
可憐啊 因為被77AR組打臉 又是只能搬出那套‘磨合
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03/12 20:48, 2小時前 , 19F
不夠’的可悲結論 來掩蓋姆斯現在是個拖後腿的事實
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03/12 20:48, 2小時前 , 20F
笑死,還在嘴硬有山羌球隊會更好,臉都腫成這樣
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03/12 20:49, 2小時前 , 21F
沒坐!隊手太依賴LBJ了!
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03/12 20:49, 2小時前 , 22F
俗辣孩,真的是笑到不行
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03/12 20:49, 2小時前 , 23F
今年富寶+樂邦,真的帶來很多歡樂
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03/12 20:50, 2小時前 , 24F
蠻好奇明年老詹到底能拿到什麼價碼的約
03/12 20:50, 24F

03/12 20:50, 2小時前 , 25F
先猜明天打東區強權公牛復出
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03/12 20:51, 2小時前 , 26F
季後賽讓球隊更好? 為什麼現在樂邦不讓球隊更好呢?
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03/12 20:52, 2小時前 , 27F
乾脆坐骨神經痛到休賽季好了,不然復出後又輸球,這
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03/12 20:52, 2小時前 , 28F
樣太顯眼了
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03/12 20:52, 2小時前 , 29F
又不是沒看過三人一起季後賽怎樣 對手一樣是灰狼
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03/12 20:52, 2小時前 , 30F
噁心東廠 除了給主子擦脂抹粉還會幹嘛
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03/12 20:53, 2小時前 , 31F
姆斯要戒掉偷跑 努力去防守 才可能讓球隊更好
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03/12 20:53, 2小時前 , 32F
不是一直靠北雙星防守爛 現在被打臉是一個字都不敢
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03/12 20:53, 2小時前 , 33F
提了
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03/12 20:54, 2小時前 , 34F
沾粉眼光獨特。
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03/12 20:54, 2小時前 , 35F
太極打起來
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03/12 20:55, 2小時前 , 36F
你要姆斯不偷跑,那分數怎麼辦,進階數據怎麼辦,效
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03/12 20:55, 2小時前 , 37F
率值怎麼辦,原形畢露可精彩了
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03/12 20:55, 2小時前 , 38F
看球的都知道姆斯不在湖人活力滿滿
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03/12 20:56, 2小時前 , 39F
至少這咖已經承認姆斯在拖累球隊了 可喜可賀
03/12 20:56, 39F
還有 228 則推文
03/12 22:37, 21分鐘前 , 268F
貴Box迷看NBA就不是來欣賞球技的,隨便
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03/12 22:38, 20分鐘前 , 269F
那下一季去找隻坦隊讓他爽刷爽上就好了
03/12 22:38, 269F

03/12 22:38, 20分鐘前 , 270F
姆斯缺賽這幾場剛好讓大家更明確知道問題出在哪 還
03/12 22:38, 270F

03/12 22:38, 20分鐘前 , 271F
好只要再忍2個月就好了 嘻嘻
03/12 22:38, 271F

03/12 22:39, 19分鐘前 , 272F
姆咪還真是相當不懂自己偶像 降低上場時間降場均這
03/12 22:39, 272F

03/12 22:39, 19分鐘前 , 273F
種事你詹不會幹 專心防守做沒有數據的事你詹不會幹
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03/12 22:39, 19分鐘前 , 274F
讓出鎂光燈自己做沒有數據的苦力這種事你詹更不會
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03/12 22:39, 19分鐘前 , 275F
幹 所以你詹上了湖人就是爛隊
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03/12 22:39, 19分鐘前 , 276F
看湖人4打5,LBJ接球上籃得分很棒啊 一生能看得到幾
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03/12 22:39, 19分鐘前 , 277F
次 以後也不會有球員這樣打
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03/12 22:39, 19分鐘前 , 278F
那個姆咪跳針仔不用理他 就說不要讓姆斯上場就是對
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03/12 22:39, 19分鐘前 , 279F
湖人最大的幫忙了 看不懂中文還硬要上兩節
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03/12 22:40, 18分鐘前 , 280F
我開始覺得他是反串了 好喔你高興就好
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03/12 22:41, 17分鐘前 , 281F
為什麼雙粉要陪霸座老頭蹉跎青春啊 不能把他踹下車
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03/12 22:41, 17分鐘前 , 282F
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03/12 22:41, 17分鐘前 , 283F
不會討論就說網軍 跟跳針 先指責別人然後要別人硬接
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03/12 22:41, 17分鐘前 , 284F
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03/12 22:41, 17分鐘前 , 285F
從去年磨合到今年還在磨 放過77吧...
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03/12 22:42, 16分鐘前 , 286F
不是你先扣人詹黑的嗎 陳述事實也能叫詹黑?
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03/12 22:42, 16分鐘前 , 287F
*雙星
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03/12 22:42, 16分鐘前 , 288F
要你接受啥 接受老詹上場就是在挖坑嗎?
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03/12 22:42, 16分鐘前 , 289F
2018滅霸詹被橫掃 2019來西區單核0輪
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03/12 22:43, 15分鐘前 , 290F
是有人先扣姆斯咪 又不是我先扣詹黑
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03/12 22:43, 15分鐘前 , 291F
奇怪你說三人上場的問題要解決 我說那LeBron就不要
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03/12 22:43, 15分鐘前 , 292F
上場 這樣問題還不算解決?
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03/12 22:43, 15分鐘前 , 293F
數據刷子本來就沒辦法帶隊了 沒抱團0冠的事實擺在
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03/12 22:43, 15分鐘前 , 294F
眼前
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03/12 22:43, 15分鐘前 , 295F
回文會不會看 不會看再看一次
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03/12 22:44, 14分鐘前 , 296F
數據證明上場就是傷害球隊 拜託放過湖人吧
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03/12 22:44, 14分鐘前 , 297F
湖人隊是姓詹嗎?為什麼要扛著老害打球
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03/12 22:44, 14分鐘前 , 298F
解決了會有這篇文?搞笑嗎?
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03/12 22:45, 13分鐘前 , 299F
這篇文要解決的又不是湖人現況 是詹詹尷尬的現況XD
03/12 22:45, 299F

03/12 22:45, 13分鐘前 , 300F
富堡無法反駁 一句老詹就是強 不就網軍行為嗎?
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03/12 22:46, 12分鐘前 , 301F
對啊 還有不能刷數據的問題 然後不上場有解決問題嗎
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03/12 22:46, 12分鐘前 , 302F
這篇文就是富保羅不願意承認詹是湖人隊最大的問題
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03/12 22:46, 12分鐘前 , 304F
湖人不就已經講明了會給老詹續約以外的所有尊重嗎
03/12 22:46, 304F

03/12 22:46, 12分鐘前 , 305F
不能刷數據是老詹的問題 又不是湖人的問題
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03/12 22:47, 11分鐘前 , 306F
你詹可以解決啊 跟湖人談買斷去坦隊刷啊
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03/12 22:47, 11分鐘前 , 307F
的確還沒解決 等暑假蛋雕老詹才是真的解決問題
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