[花邊] KD回應Green質疑其贏得NBA冠軍的看法

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The former teammates, who played together on the Warriors, recently engaged in a back-and-forth after Draymond Green seemingly dissed Kevin Durant’s take on scoring being more important to win championships. In a recent interview with The Athletic, Green addressed folks who believe that defense does not play a role in winning championships. Draymond: “Those who don’t believe defense is as valuable as it is simply just don’t win. I don’t think anyone’s ever really been hell-bent on caring about the opinion of those that don’t win, because your opinion equals zero.” Reporter: “So I hear you, but Kevin has won.” Draymond: “He won here, (and) the defense here was…” Reporter: “It was incredible.” Draymond: “Absolutely.” Durant saw this exchange on social media and coldly pointed to facts that showed offense was the bigger focal point when the Warriors had their back-to-back championships. “And the offense was????” wrote a puzzled Durant on X. The Warriors’ offense was first in the league while their defense wasn’t even top-10 in the league during the 2017 and 2018 championship runs. In fact, neither the Cavaliers nor the Warriors were a top-10 defensive team in the league in those years. In essence, there seems to have been a misunderstanding of words somewhere. Durant never said offense was the only important thing in winning championships. However, Green seems to have understood that he felt defense has no role in winning a championship. 這兩位曾在金州勇士隊並肩作戰的前隊友,近期再度展開言論攻防。起因是Green似乎在 暗諷Durant「進攻對於奪冠更重要」的觀點,而再次隔空交火。 在近期接受《The Athletic》採訪時,Green針對「認為防守對奪冠毫無作用」的說法表 達了看法。 Green:「那些不認同防守價值的人,根本無法贏得比賽。我想從來沒有人會去在乎那些 從來沒贏過的人的意見,因為你的意見等於零。」 記者:「我明白你的意思,但Durant確實拿過冠軍。」 Green:「他的冠軍是在這裡(勇士隊)贏的,而這裡的防守可是……」 記者:「相當出色。」 Green:「毫無疑問。」 Durant透過社群媒體X看到這段對話後,冷靜列舉事實反駁,指出勇士隊完成兩連冠時, 球隊的重心其實更傾向進攻。 Durant在X上困惑地寫道:「那當時的進攻表現又怎麼說?」 事實上,在2017年與2018年勇士隊奪冠的賽季中,球隊的進攻效率高居聯盟第一,防守效 率卻連聯盟前十都未進。更值得一提的是,那兩年無論是勇士隊還是其總決賽對手騎士隊 ,都未進入聯盟防守前十。 實質上,這場爭議似乎源於雙方對話中的語義誤解。Durant從未主張「進攻是奪冠的唯一 」,但Green卻將其理解為「Durant認為防守對奪冠毫無作用」。 “They understand what I’m saying, but people purposely take my words outta context, you know mfers just wanna dunk on me lol,” wrote Durant on X while acknowledging that this is a misunderstanding, clearly. “They take offense to everything I say. How ironic,” he further added. “I can feel the jealousy and insecurity through your burner account,” said the Rockets’ superstar when a fan criticized him for saying offense is more important than defense. If you assign weightage to both things, Durant may have said offense is 70% important, implying defense is still 30% needed to get the win, or even a 60-40 split. But Green seems to believe that Durant thinks defense has no contribution in winning championships (i.e 0% value), which is far from the truth. Eddie Gonzalez, a close friend of Durant’s, believes that Draymond Green only reacted due to his second nature of needing to respond when being baited by reporters, calling out his desire to replace Charles Barkley in the media. Durant has, on multiple occasions, acknowledged that defense is important as well, giving flowers to Draymond Green for his contributions, but offense is just more important in his opinion. Durant在X上明確點出這場誤會,他寫:「他們其實懂我想表達的意思,但總有人故意斷 章取義。要知道這些人就是想找機會噴我罷了,哈哈。」 他補充:「我說的每句話都會被他們挑毛病,太諷刺了。」 若要為兩者的重要性賦予權重,Durant的觀點是「進攻占70%」這意味著防守仍占30%的奪 冠要素,甚至可能是「60%進攻、40%防守」。但Green似乎誤以為Durant認為「防守對奪 冠毫無貢獻」,而這與Durant的真實想法相去甚遠。 Durant的好友Eddie Gonzalez認為,Green之所以有這樣的反應,源於他的「本能」當被 記者引導時,他總是習慣回應。Eddie Gonzalez還指出,Green渴望在媒體領域取代 Charles Barkley的地位。事實上,Durant曾多次認可防守的重要性,也大力讚賞過Green 在防守端的貢獻,他僅是認為「進攻在奪冠中占據更重要的地位」。 來源:https://reurl.cc/8bnE6R -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.231.114.89 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1762336901.A.7B1.html

11/05 18:06, 2周前 , 1F
KD你就包容一下他不會進攻只會幹些髒活斷人職涯,你
11/05 18:06, 1F

11/05 18:06, 2周前 , 2F
都是名人堂等級的球星了別跟這般雜魚一番見識
11/05 18:06, 2F

11/05 18:07, 2周前 , 3F
green的本能是什麼
11/05 18:07, 3F

11/05 18:07, 2周前 , 4F
之前就有人說過了教育很重要 看懂別人在講什麼很
11/05 18:07, 4F

11/05 18:07, 2周前 , 5F
重要
11/05 18:07, 5F

11/05 18:08, 2周前 , 6F
贏在裁判吧 移動迷宮怎麼防守
11/05 18:08, 6F

11/05 18:09, 2周前 , 7F
籃球要贏最終還是要把球投進籃框裡
11/05 18:09, 7F

11/05 18:14, 2周前 , 8F
KD強取豪橫奪走他主子連續兩座FMVP
11/05 18:14, 8F

11/05 18:14, 2周前 , 9F
取消hand check之後是不是都是優秀進攻加
11/05 18:14, 9F

11/05 18:14, 2周前 , 10F
中上防守的奪冠模式阿
11/05 18:14, 10F

11/05 18:15, 2周前 , 11F
勇士那兩年是贏在對手是過譽仔
11/05 18:15, 11F

11/05 18:17, 2周前 , 12F
16亞攻1防5 17冠攻1防2 18冠攻3防11 19亞攻1防13
11/05 18:17, 12F

11/05 18:19, 2周前 , 13F
22冠攻17防1 很難說到底攻防占比各是多少%
11/05 18:19, 13F

11/05 18:19, 2周前 , 14F
NBA真的超智障的 拿冠軍的隊友還可以因為怎麼拿冠
11/05 18:19, 14F

11/05 18:19, 2周前 , 15F
軍吵起來 這個聯盟球員一大堆心智障礙的 垃圾聯盟
11/05 18:19, 15F

11/05 18:19, 2周前 , 16F
和球員
11/05 18:19, 16F

11/05 18:20, 2周前 , 17F
總之贏冠軍的秘訣很簡單 得分比對手多
11/05 18:20, 17F

11/05 18:20, 2周前 , 18F
失分比對手少
11/05 18:20, 18F

11/05 18:21, 2周前 , 19F
15冠攻2防1 補一下嘴綠冠軍循環
11/05 18:21, 19F

11/05 18:21, 2周前 , 20F
因為嘴綠只會防守不會進攻啊,你說進攻比較重要他
11/05 18:21, 20F

11/05 18:21, 2周前 , 21F
當然不爽
11/05 18:21, 21F

11/05 18:23, 2周前 , 22F
真der green幾罐 你KD幾罐 你KD奪罐還不是靠curry
11/05 18:23, 22F

11/05 18:26, 2周前 , 23F
取代老巴地位不太可能吧 老巴能接受自己被尻洗 嘴綠
11/05 18:26, 23F

11/05 18:26, 2周前 , 24F
不像有那種想法的人
11/05 18:26, 24F

11/05 18:26, 2周前 , 25F
宇宙勇猛的是火力吧
11/05 18:26, 25F

11/05 18:27, 2周前 , 26F
真的要說 嘴綠更可能走歐尼爾那種胖虎風格
11/05 18:27, 26F

11/05 18:28, 2周前 , 27F
嘴綠這種狐假虎威的球員最沒資格講別人奪冠的事
11/05 18:28, 27F

11/05 18:28, 2周前 , 28F
反正一言不合就掏戒指開嗆
11/05 18:28, 28F

11/05 18:28, 2周前 , 29F
沒Curry 吸怪,他就是個dirty player
11/05 18:28, 29F

11/05 18:29, 2周前 , 30F
而且有一季Curry 缺席很多,就證明了嘴綠是個shx
11/05 18:29, 30F

11/05 18:30, 2周前 , 31F
有些球員是打球方式讓人討厭,有些是言行,他則全包
11/05 18:30, 31F

11/05 18:30, 2周前 , 32F
勇士還是太依賴LBJ了
11/05 18:30, 32F

11/05 18:31, 2周前 , 33F
NBA是沒其它冠軍球隊能提了嗎
11/05 18:31, 33F

11/05 18:33, 2周前 , 34F
這就記者故意想引起爭議罷了 蠻無聊的
11/05 18:33, 34F

11/05 18:33, 2周前 , 35F
綠師傅是誰的嘴替和宣傳喇叭要修改記憶很明顯了吧
11/05 18:33, 35F

11/05 18:35, 1周前 , 36F
拼斷腿為勇士拼到最後一刻 只因為2FMVP功高震主
11/05 18:35, 36F

11/05 18:35, 1周前 , 37F
球員跟網民一樣國小生吵架真的蠻好笑的==
11/05 18:35, 37F

11/05 18:36, 1周前 , 38F
嘴綠只能講防守、但是如果不能往死裡打嘴綠的功能
11/05 18:36, 38F

11/05 18:36, 1周前 , 39F
至少減半吧
11/05 18:36, 39F
還有 63 則推文
11/05 21:47, 1周前 , 103F
能贏就好
11/05 21:47, 103F

11/05 21:48, 1周前 , 104F
明明是嘴綠曲解KD的看法 KD並不是主張防守無用
11/05 21:48, 104F

11/05 21:49, 1周前 , 105F
老找KD麻煩陰陽怪氣真的是夠了
11/05 21:49, 105F

11/05 21:49, 1周前 , 106F
不過防守肯定被數據跟薪水低估
11/05 21:49, 106F

11/05 21:50, 1周前 , 107F
明明當年是一起奪冠的夥伴 逮到機會就在借題發揮
11/05 21:50, 107F

11/05 21:55, 1周前 , 108F
嘴綠就是瘋狂吹自己,現在實力根本不在線還一直吹
11/05 21:55, 108F

11/05 21:55, 1周前 , 109F
,真的看不下去?
11/05 21:55, 109F

11/05 22:02, 1周前 , 110F
防守那麼好還被姆斯73亞喔 找kd來不就是進攻更重要
11/05 22:02, 110F

11/05 22:14, 1周前 , 111F
KD在推特上的攻防拿到賽場可以五連霸
11/05 22:14, 111F

11/05 22:34, 1周前 , 112F
別鬧了 KD攻守都超頂
11/05 22:34, 112F

11/05 22:47, 1周前 , 113F
嘴綠就典型的抓稻草人來打 等等就說跟我老婆小孩無
11/05 22:47, 113F

11/05 22:47, 1周前 , 114F
關衝著我來
11/05 22:47, 114F

11/05 23:20, 1周前 , 115F
某FMVP證明了靠裁判BB也可以拿冠
11/05 23:20, 115F

11/05 23:23, 1周前 , 116F
從來沒看過Robert Horry吹說他拿七冠比歐肥偉大,一
11/05 23:23, 116F

11/05 23:23, 1周前 , 117F
樣是配角就只有嘴綠這種咖會一直吹自己
11/05 23:23, 117F

11/05 23:46, 1周前 , 118F
fmvp 2>0 嘴綠是不是想到就破防
11/05 23:46, 118F

11/06 00:12, 1周前 , 119F
可以靠Kd打造可以靠curry打造 誰會靠green打造隊伍
11/06 00:12, 119F

11/06 00:49, 1周前 , 120F
一個73勝亞軍直接多一個MVP等級的證明了攻擊防守什
11/06 00:49, 120F

11/06 00:50, 1周前 , 121F
麼 代表缺KD的進攻? 這是啥結論
11/06 00:50, 121F

11/06 00:53, 1周前 , 122F
別說KD了 你能找巔峰TD來也大機率奪冠 這時是不是又
11/06 00:53, 122F

11/06 00:53, 1周前 , 123F
變成防守贏的總冠軍 搞笑的證明 最多證明多一個MVP
11/06 00:53, 123F

11/06 00:53, 1周前 , 124F
能輕鬆贏
11/06 00:53, 124F

11/06 01:42, 1周前 , 125F
推勇士王朝第一人KD。咖哩是歷史最強二當家沒爭議
11/06 01:42, 125F

11/06 02:04, 1周前 , 126F
所以是記者釣嘴綠
11/06 02:04, 126F

11/06 02:11, 1周前 , 127F
二當家carry拿2冠。大哥帶隊0冠辛苦了
11/06 02:11, 127F

11/06 06:19, 1周前 , 128F
73亞成員說什麼都是對的
11/06 06:19, 128F

11/06 06:54, 1周前 , 129F
2FMVP不需要解釋
11/06 06:54, 129F

11/06 07:40, 1周前 , 130F
去看年火箭季後賽就知道 有防守沒進攻還是會輸
11/06 07:40, 130F

11/06 08:18, 1周前 , 131F
防守是穩定保底,但問題得不了分怎麼贏? 而且頂級
11/06 08:18, 131F

11/06 08:18, 1周前 , 132F
球星真的準起來,一堆是對位到這樣噴進去的那種。
11/06 08:18, 132F

11/06 08:34, 1周前 , 133F
KD也是夠大氣了,嘴綠這種咖也能當朋友
11/06 08:34, 133F

11/06 09:06, 1周前 , 134F
籃球是得分多的贏 還是火鍋多的贏
11/06 09:06, 134F

11/06 09:37, 1周前 , 135F
Green只想炒流量吧,其實兩邊咖位有差,KD不要鳥他
11/06 09:37, 135F

11/06 09:37, 1周前 , 136F
就好了
11/06 09:37, 136F

11/06 09:38, 1周前 , 137F
總感覺Green很不服KD地位高於他,總想找架吵
11/06 09:38, 137F

11/06 09:43, 1周前 , 138F
沒KD燃燒自己 嘴綠跟他老大直接少兩冠
11/06 09:43, 138F

11/06 10:18, 1周前 , 139F
嘴綠就只是想嘴而已 KD是歷史的強 嘴綠歷史沒地位
11/06 10:18, 139F

11/06 10:19, 1周前 , 140F
反正未來討論歷史 沒人會在乎嘴綠是誰
11/06 10:19, 140F

11/06 12:11, 1周前 , 141F
Kd 也是自己帶隊零冠呀
11/06 12:11, 141F

11/06 13:50, 1周前 , 142F
結論green很容易被媒體誤導
11/06 13:50, 142F
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