[討論] Oden像誰...from realGM

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很有趣的文章就po出來給大家看看 by: tsherkin http://realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=623778 有需要翻譯的話說一聲..:P Patrick Ewing: Oden right now is most similar to Patrick Ewing (also as a freshman); very little offensive game but physically intimidating and scary on D. Patrick developed an offensive game and then reinvented himself even after an injury left him inferior to what he once had been. He developed some range, he was dangerous inside and he was a pretty efficient volume scorer. Underrated defensively, Ewing played D more with his head than his athleticism than either Olajuwon or Robinson. He was more about position and timing and anticipation than those guys, who used ridiculous speed and hops to do a lot of their work. Alonzo Mourning: Shorter, smaller (but in stunning physical condition), very awkward and ugly on offense, not a very good passer... IMO, Oden's already a better offensive player, it just remains to be seen if he'll have the opportunity to show it and if he will have the poise and know-how to effectively handle double-teams at the NBA level. 'Zo never impressed me on offense and I really always hated watching him with the ball, from his Charlotte days onward. He was and remains, however, an outstanding defender and I could see Oden being of similar value in that respect. Still, I expect Oden to be a more capable offensive player. 'Zo's offensive stats are nice but his impact on the game was always bleh... on offense, of course. David Robinson: For the nth time, D-Rob and Oden are totally unalike. They play a dissimilar brand of defense (you'll almost never see Oden past the foul line) and they're TOTALLY different offensive players. Robinson was a natural shooter even before he hit Navy and he just got nastier and nastier through his college career. He also played face-up and Oden never does that. Tim Duncan: Duncan's an interesting option; statistically, he seems likely to be the most similar (maybe a little more shot-blocking, though). I expect Oden to master a couple of post moves and go with those. Stylistically though, Duncan does too much face-up work and has too much range on his J and just... Well even when he was being recruited, he had some handles and that J in its beginning form and Oden isn't there yet. I don't see him being like Duncan ITO style. Duncan's mainly a backdown guy, and in that respect they'll probably be similar, but Duncan's a lot more versatile offensively than most credit him as being and I don't think Oden'll be like that. Hakeem Olajuwon: Dream came into the league with quickness, hops and power. Oden'll have the last two but he won't be as agile as Olajuwon, who was just a freak athlete in all categories. His game developed as time went on and he eventually developed the nastiest low-post arsenal I can think of off the top of my head but I doubt they resemble eachother on offense, since most of Dream's moves were based around quickness and Oden isn't nearly the same kind of lateral athlete. Bill Russell: Oden's already more skilled offensively, ITO low post scoring and nothing like Russell ITO high post offense. Russell is routinely forgotten in conversations about the best passing bigs of all-time but here's a guy who was a 4.3 apg player on his career and had an 81-game season as a 5.8 apg guy in the last couple years of his career. He was a pretty nasty high post guy and Oden's gonna be a low post player, for sure. Defensively, I can see the similarity in terms of impact and relative talent compared to the rest of the league. He'll be a dominant shot-blocker, probably, but Russell (like Olajuwon) had a lot more quickness and agility about him and was far more mobile than Oden (not that Greg's a stiff). Marcus Camby: Please. Camby's way thinner, has a 15-footer than Oden hasn't evidenced yet and has almost no ability to score from the post. He's a brilliant rebounder, a competent offensive player and totally unlike Oden. Shaquille O'Neal: This is tough; ITO style, I think they'll be VERY similar. They're about the same size at the same stage of their careers. Shaq was about 260 at the end of high school and was between 270 and 295 during his college career (he hit the NBA around 290, 295). They have similar ups. I remember Shaq as the quicker guy, especially on that baseline spin, but that could be a result of him having better footwork and being stronger, too... when he got you on his hip, it was pretty much impossible to recover in time to stop his spin, which was part of why it was so effective. But I see Oden working a lot on footwork, jumphooks in the lane and just outside of it, I see his offensive arsenal being very similar to Shaq's. I dunno if he'll be anywhere close to as prolific or efficient, because Shaq was a monster, but still. In terms of style alone, I think on offense, he's the most comparable. Oden already has more range than Shaq though, he's reasonably effective with a 12-foot jumphook, so that makes the life of the defense a lot more difficult. Shaq's also a lot stronger and more physical, while Oden hasn't really gotten aggressive or super-physical yet. Maybe that'll come in time. Shaq was also a LOT more skilled at this stage of his career. It's fashionable to hate on Shaq for being a big brute but people forget that he actually has horrendously underrated handling ability (e.g. lead the fastbreak ability) and passing skills. At LSU and in HS, he used to routinely toss no-look, behind-the-back passes and all manner of other random BS that you wouldn't expect of a behemoth like him. Oden right now doesn't have nearly the skill-set Shaq did at the same stage in terms of diversity of his game. Dick Vitale had a boner for Shaq so huge, ESPN actually had to rebuild an entire wing of their building because he busted a wall after he saw Shaq at the McDonald's All-Star game when Shaq was finishing up HS. So... Again, speaking exclusively from the standpoint of style, I think Shaq's the most comparable in terms of how he'll look and work on offense, while Patrick Ewing/Dikembe Mutombo/Duncan with more blocks are probably the best defensive comparisons. It's a tough call, he's 19 years old, blessed with a body very similar to Shaq's and he's a hard worker, so the potential for him to develop his game is astronomical, as high as you could ever rate it. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 74.102.89.76