[轉錄] Wang-o-Rama: All Hail the King?

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※ [本文轉錄自 CMWang 看板] 作者: akainorei (我是Babyface澳客) 看板: CMWang 標題: [外電] Wang-o-Rama: All Hail the King? 時間: Wed Sep 5 13:26:44 2007 剛剛看到, 應該沒OP http://eastwindupchronicle.com/?p=45 Wang Chien-Ming is the king of Taiwan. Wang, whose name literally means ‘king’ in Chinese, is Taiwan’s most revered and loved celebrity. The New York Yankees’ #1 starter is the first Taiwanese celebrity to achieve widespread international recognition (with the possible exception of filmmaker Ang Li, Madame Chiang Kai Shek and actress/Penthouse centerfold Hsu Chi), and a source of national pride every time he takes the hill for the storied New York Yankees. And what’s not to love about a player that has emerged as the ace of the world’s most successful baseball franchise, finished second in the AL Cy Young voting to Johan Santana in 2006, starts charities to benefit underprivileged kids in his free time, and has even had the courage to boycott the bloodthirsty and reckless Taiwanese media since moving to New York? Owing to his unusually composed demeanor, seemingly incorruptible personality on an island notorious for political corruption, and celebrity cache (that gives Taiwan the rare occasion to stick it China as the mainland siphons off its jobs and challenges its statehood), Wang takes center stage on a daily basis on the TV and in the papers. As a result, without a costly mlb.com package, baseball fans on the island have to get used to the following order of priorities: Wang Chien Ming first, The Yankees second, and baseball third. Wang fever in Taiwan can reach absurd levels. ESPN in Taiwan re-runs every game he pitches in 4 or 5 times in a week, while remaining Yankee games broadcast two to three times a day while the vast majority of MLB games go untelevised. For fans on the island interested in the bigger picture of the game, pennant races, or teams outside of the AL East, it can get vexing watching the Taiwanese media lavish more attention on a single start from Wang (or Wang having a conversation with Ron Guidry in the dugout) than it does on, say, Barry Bonds breaking the all-time home run record. Save for the occasional Red Sox game featuring Matsuzaka, or a even rarer Dodgers game where Hong Chih Kuo invariably gets lit up, Yankees games are by and large the only exposure fans get to MLB. One can well imagine the stunned silence, general confusion, and silent facial contortions of protest (as well as nasty emails) I get from Taiwanese baseball fans when I make the following outrageous claims: Wang at this stage of his career makes a very good #2 pitcher for a successful rotation but has not yet developed the qualities of a true staff ace, the jury is still out on his long term value, and the oft-cheerleading media and fans have jumped the gun a bit by placing Wang in the top tier of starting pitchers in MLB. I also get jeers when I suggest that fans in Taiwan, due 24/7 exposure in the media, conflate Wang’s historical and cultural importance with his actual talents on the field. Wang’s demeanor, high winning percentage, and league-best sinker certainly give him the potential to be mentioned in the same breath with Webb, Sabathia, and Johan, but he’s not there. Not yet. Naysayer! Cynic! Playa Hater! (being pelted with stinky tofu) First off, a fair assessment of Wang’s ability has to point to stats beyond his W-L record. Wang’s win totals are highly inflated due to an inordinate amount of run support—nearly 7 runs per game (6.8)—and excellent defensive support (The Yankee defense behind Wang, didn’t allow an unearned run in 47 consecutive innings, the longest such streak for a Yankee pitcher since the Elias Sports Bureau began tracking the stat in 1913). Every time Wang takes the hill the Yanks spot him 7 runs and never make any errors. This is a recipe for putting up a lot of wins regardless of who is on the mound. Or, to quote a Seattle Mariners scout in Taiwan who tried to sign Wang before he ended up on the Yankees, “take Wang off the Yankees and put him on a weak-hitting team, and he’s a .500 pitcher”. Wang has other attributes that suggest that some of the fawning over his performance thus far might not be warranted yet. This year, left-handed hitters are hitting .283 against him. Since the All-Star break this year, Wang the king has put up a respectable 7-2 record, but has an average E.R.A. (4.50) and hitters are opposing hitters are hitting .296. Due to his high ground ball percentage, a lot of these runs get cancelled out in double plays, but putting that many runners on base could be a recipe for trouble come playoff time. In fact, Wang’s stats this year are eerily similar to those put up by Greg Maddux at age 41, whom most statisticians and fans would describe as having a decent but unspectacular season in the twilight of his career. Maddux is regarded as the Padres #3 starter, certainly not their ace at this point. While it might not be the only factor in the equation, the extra 2 runs per game Wang receives in run support from the Bronx Bomber offense surely plays a big part in the 6 game difference in the win column: Wang 166.1IP, 16 wins, 6 losses, 3.79 ERA, 86 K’s, 45BB’s, 1.27 WHIP Maddux 168.2IP, 10 wins, 9 losses, 3.79 ERA, 89 K’s, 21BB’s, 1.20 WHIP That’s not to say Wang doesn’t have the capability to be a true ace, in fact, he’s nearly there. With the league’s best sinker that Yankees pitching coach Ron Guidry compares to trying to hit a shot put, and a 96 MPH heater, there’s no denying the talent is in place. He’s young, he’s already won a ton of games, and has room to grow. But he’s not all the way there yet, and often times this gets lost in the shuffle as the Taiwanese media clamors to put up yet another full-page spread singing his praises. __________________ More important than these statistical comparisons, the Taiwanese media, notorious for fabricating news stories and desperate to sensationalize anything they can in order to gain ratings–more than the unassuming Wang himself– can be blamed for the premature overhyping of the man of the hour. In Wang you have a highly marketable, good looking, reputable celebrity that’ s tailor made to sell papers and merchandise. But in the end, Taiwanese baseball fans, who might care more about the game itself with exposure to different teams, lose out in the end due to the disproportionate amount of airtime lavished upon Wang at this early stage in his career. They almost never get to see NL teams. They don’t get to see Pujols, Santana, Hanley, or even Bonds. This deprives them of the joy of seeing all the game’s stars, the thrill of pennant races, the ability to view baseball from a more objective perspective, and the perspective to see Wang within the greater overall context of the game. Because of Wang’s success in pinstripes, Taiwanese fans have almost without exception embraced the Yankees as their favorite team. From an overall standpoint, if what matters to Taiwanese fans is that Wang has put Taiwan on the map and given them something to cheer for after a long day at the factory, that’s great. 真是中肯又帶點殘酷的報導 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 211.77.241.1

09/05 13:32,
這人對台灣還真有研究....
09/05 13:32

09/05 13:32,
把王跟舒琪比............................................
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09/05 13:34,
還跟蔣介石比
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09/05 13:34,
被拿來跟那幾個人比... 除了李安 其他的... orz
09/05 13:34

09/05 13:35,
那個應該是蔣夫人
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09/05 13:34,
不是, 是蔣介石夫人
09/05 13:34

09/05 13:35,
這是華人媒體嗎?
09/05 13:35

09/05 13:35,
不過他說台灣媒體還真的是夠中肯
09/05 13:35

09/05 13:35,
怎麼會有舒淇
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09/05 13:36,
有點諷刺意味呢
09/05 13:36

09/05 13:37,
舒琪好像有上過TIME的封面
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09/05 13:37,
中肯? 這種廢文就別po了 不僅酸王還酸台灣人
09/05 13:37

09/05 13:38,
就是宋美齡啦
09/05 13:38

09/05 13:36,
Padres的前兩號先發是Peavy C.young 而且聯盟不同
09/05 13:36

09/05 13:39,
我不認為是廢文,而且他也沒酸王,王本來就還有進步的空間
09/05 13:39

09/05 13:39,
這樣比實在很奇怪
09/05 13:39

09/05 13:39,
Penthouse centerfold Hsu Chi 並不是多光榮的事情 囧
09/05 13:39

09/05 13:41,
他最後一句還暗指台灣多工人階級(井底之蛙) 不廢?
09/05 13:41

09/05 13:42,
他被一些比較不理性的台灣球迷用e-mail騷擾
09/05 13:42

09/05 13:42,
其實這篇諷刺意味很濃呀,看標題就知道了
09/05 13:42

09/05 13:43,
就用這種方式報復 實在很好笑
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09/05 13:42,
這篇如果是中文且是XX報的話應該是滿是噓^.>
09/05 13:42

09/05 13:43,
老實說這篇很看不起台灣人..諷刺太明顯了
09/05 13:43

09/05 13:43,
樓上,我也對他最後一句不以為然,但批評王的部份倒是覺得
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09/05 13:43,
酸王才會紅阿 就像外國也有專門酸阿肉的 笑笑就好
09/05 13:43

09/05 13:44,
他那段你可以去他的blog罵,我轉是注重他說王的那段
09/05 13:44

09/05 13:45,
老實說後面那段我也不喜歡
09/05 13:45

09/05 13:45,
說的是事實 但是讀完感受真的不好~
09/05 13:45

09/05 13:45,
台灣人本來就瘋狂 去官網看看 難怪反王的越來越多..
09/05 13:45

09/05 13:45,
披王沒關係 一個運動記者有啥資格去評他國人民
09/05 13:45

09/05 13:45,
還好,反正王就是年資還淺,run support又多,又是黃種人。
09/05 13:45

09/05 13:46,
況且轉這篇我們就知道去哪糾正那些記者對台灣的錯誤印象
09/05 13:46

09/05 13:46,
王一贏就把以前說王不好的文章翻箱倒櫃拿來戰 何必呢?
09/05 13:46

09/05 13:46,
挺王就算了 還順便酸老派 HUGHES 這樣只會更多反王的..
09/05 13:46

09/05 13:46,
恩...批王在運動上的領域無所謂 其他就真的over了...
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09/05 13:47,
別忘了 老派 大帝再怎樣也是美國本土子弟..
09/05 13:47

09/05 13:47,
台灣人在網路上好像做過不少丟臉到國外的事.....
09/05 13:47

09/05 13:48,
我轉外電沒辦法斷章取義吧, 全部轉讓大家看阿
09/05 13:48

09/05 13:48,
對美國"一人一信"好像好幾次..又常到日本2ch鬧...
09/05 13:48
還有 70 則推文
還有 1 段內文
09/05 16:07, , 12F
恩..的確有不少用有"wang"的id的鄉民在官網討論區引戰...
09/05 16:07, 12F

09/05 16:09, , 13F
樓樓上 是說王輪值之後的那一場勝率不高
09/05 16:09, 13F

09/05 16:09, , 14F
之前看過王投的好時.有人就發"快交易王吧"這種反諷文去戰
09/05 16:09, 14F

09/05 16:10, , 15F
官網很多襪子反串的,我習慣去yesnetwork,那邊理性一點
09/05 16:10, 15F

09/05 16:10, , 16F
我說的是 還包括之前他們官網討論誰是ace的這種問題
09/05 16:10, 16F

09/05 16:12, , 17F
官網有很多台灣人倒是真的
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09/05 16:13, , 18F
果然是嘴砲無國界
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09/05 16:14, , 19F
newsgroup上的洋基板對王的評價不錯啊!!
09/05 16:14, 19F

09/05 16:23, , 20F
謝謝轉文~
09/05 16:23, 20F

09/05 16:26, , 21F
blog最後一篇回應(KL)太有趣了
09/05 16:26, 21F

09/05 16:27, , 22F
A guy teaching English in this island mean he is good
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09/05 16:27, , 23F
at nothing but his mother tongue. So we can stop attack
09/05 16:27, 23F

09/05 16:28, , 24F
-ing him because he is a poor guy. He can’t earn his
09/05 16:28, 24F

09/05 16:29, , 25F
living in States and roams here.
09/05 16:29, 25F

09/05 16:38, , 26F
KL好嗆 有點沒品 不過我喜歡 XD
09/05 16:38, 26F

09/05 16:39, , 27F
真酸的回文
09/05 16:39, 27F

09/05 16:45, , 28F
KL沒說錯啊
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09/05 16:47, , 29F
KL說得好賤喔XD 只是我喜歡
09/05 16:47, 29F

09/05 16:49, , 30F
大推KL
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09/05 17:04, , 31F
KL漂亮
09/05 17:04, 31F

09/05 17:11, , 32F
一樓多看一點 一些襪迷反串被罵得很慘才對 還有滾回中國那篇
09/05 17:11, 32F

09/05 17:12, , 33F
也被幹繳得很慘~
09/05 17:12, 33F

09/05 17:13, , 34F
官網真是超多反串...要王回小聯盟啦DL啦中國拉 日本啦..一堆
09/05 17:13, 34F

09/05 17:23, , 35F
回文有些嗆得很有道理,但有些對方看了大概看不懂...orz...
09/05 17:23, 35F

09/05 17:39, , 36F
.500 journalist, even less. "囧>
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09/05 19:17, , 37F
外電也要看作者是誰ㄚ 名不見經傳的外國鄉民嘴砲也叫外電ꌠ
09/05 19:17, 37F

09/05 20:32, , 38F
=========請問一下,他用那兩張照片要不要取得授權啊?=====
09/05 20:32, 38F

09/05 20:58, , 39F
WANG版18238篇有這位外國鄉民的資料 聽說是TWINS的球迷
09/05 20:58, 39F

09/05 23:41, , 40F
在網路上嗆老外好像很屌的樣子
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09/05 23:59, , 41F
老外何其多 只不過這個老外一副高高在上的樣子 美帝很威?
09/05 23:59, 41F

09/06 00:03, , 42F
襪版嗆打爆小王是為了支持球隊 所以無妨
09/06 00:03, 42F

09/06 00:05, , 43F
但是這老外很多心態明顯就是優越感作祟 還住台灣不嗆他嗆誰
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09/06 00:06, , 44F
我差不多已經一年半沒跟老外吵架了XD
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09/06 00:07, , 45F
小時候比較愛鬧事XD
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09/06 00:41, , 46F
還不就一群鄉民 外國的鄉民說話也不見得專業啦XD
09/06 00:41, 46F

09/06 02:49, , 47F
南台科大的外籍教師..?
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09/06 04:28, , 48F
說真的這種文可以刪了 根本不用轉來
09/06 04:28, 48F

09/06 10:23, , 49F
看完之後真是滿腔怒火
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09/06 10:23, , 50F
有些人就是喜歡全家被批成男盜女娼才甘願,被誇獎很丟臉一樣
09/06 10:23, 50F

09/06 15:12, , 51F
這篇根本沒深度也沒內容 還外電勒 推kl嗆回去
09/06 15:12, 51F
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