[轉錄] Pair of Aces

看板NY-Yankees作者 (Doer brokenheart)時間17年前 (2007/09/06 16:29), 編輯推噓15(1508)
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※ [本文轉錄自 CMWang 看板] 作者: ptmcion (ptmcion) 看板: CMWang 標題: Pair of Aces 時間: Thu Sep 6 15:36:08 2007 這篇是部落格文章 覺得還不錯 蠻中肯 原文網址 http://yanksfansoxfan.typepad.com/ysfs/2007/09/pair-of-aces.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wednesday, September 05, 2007 Pair of Aces Josh Beckett and Chien-Ming Wang -- the undisputed aces of the rivalry and not surprisingly the focus of many a debate here at YFSF since the beginning of 2006 -- each won their 17th game yesterday. Wang did it in predictable fashion, allowing just eight baserunners in seven-plus innings, and wriggling out of jams via the double play. Beckett, too, was characteristic, pitching the best game of any starter in the game last night, striking out seven in eight innings, limiting his hits and getting burned just once on a mistake pitch to Matt Stairs. For the record, here are their lines this season: * Beckett: 17-6, 3.30 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, 165 K, 36 BB * Wang: 17-6, 3.68 ERA, 1.27 WHIP, 87 K, 48 BB It was surprising -- at least, to me -- that Wang snuck into tying Beckett for the league lead in wins (going 10-2 in your last 13 starts will do it), but there he is. Back into the conversation. The aces, perhaps as dissimilar as two pitchers can be -- the one cool and dispassionate, relying on the grounder and his defense; the other hotheaded and emotional, amping it up for the strikeout in key spots -- nevertheless have put up similar numbers this season, with Beckett's slightly better. The difference has been the role each has been called on to perform. Wang has carried his team. Aside from Pettitte, and even he only in the second half, the Yanks have not been able to rely on any of their other starting pitchers. Take away the ace, and the Yankee starters' line crumbles from bad to awful: * 54-45, 4.77 ERA, 1.44 WHIP * 37-39, 5.09 ERA, 1.49 WHIP Beckett, on the other hand, has had far less pressure in compiling his career-high win total (and his second-lowest ERA, a far more impressive feat, considering the division). Matsuzaka and Wakefield have been as good as expected, if not better, Schilling has been solid though not as much as we'd hoped, and the supporting cast of Gabbard, Lester, Tavarez and Buchholz have provided far more out of the five spot than any other comparable starter in the league. Consequently, removing Beckett from the Sox' rotation hurts them (obviously), but not as much: * 70-44, 4.09 ERA, 1.28 WHIP * 54-51, 4.29 ERA, 1.31 WHIP Given the choice between the two, I guess you could summarize it this way: Give Beckett a vote for Cy Young, but give Wang a vote for MVP. Posted by Paul SF at 10:22 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.224.89.245

09/06 15:47,
give Wang a vote for MVP
09/06 15:47

09/06 15:49,
這篇也蠻嗨的..不過隊戰績影響上..小王影響程度高是事實
09/06 15:49

09/06 15:50,
只能說今年紅襪戰績很穩定..先發都有穩定拿勝投
09/06 15:50

09/06 15:54,
MVP的票選 一直有個人成績優先還是團隊戰績重要的爭論
09/06 15:54

09/06 15:54,
give Beckett a vote for nice-guy card,
09/06 15:54

09/06 15:55,
but give Wang a vote fof MVP and Cy Young both.
09/06 15:55

09/06 15:57,
這篇也太嗨了吧...
09/06 15:57

09/06 15:58,
五樓專業
09/06 15:58

09/06 15:59,
寫這篇的人是紅襪迷…
09/06 15:59

09/06 16:04,
滿中肯的
09/06 16:04

09/06 16:15,
五樓中肯
09/06 16:15

09/06 16:29,
匟酮v基板 謝謝
09/06 16:29
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09/06 16:33, , 1F
這種太HIGH的文章看看就好了...
09/06 16:33, 1F

09/06 16:33, , 2F
哪有High???
09/06 16:33, 2F

09/06 16:36, , 3F
選小王MVP不夠high嗎?
09/06 16:36, 3F

09/06 16:38, , 4F
球季結束再說吧= =
09/06 16:38, 4F

09/06 16:38, , 5F
是真的頗嗨吧.美聯MVP目前主要兩個人選競爭中
09/06 16:38, 5F

09/06 16:38, , 6F
MVP比CY難拿 所以太high了
09/06 16:38, 6F

09/06 16:39, , 7F
請看推論邏輯 先別只看最後一行
09/06 16:39, 7F

09/06 16:40, , 8F
所以我在王版有推文了啊..
09/06 16:40, 8F

09/06 16:41, , 9F
但是還是覺得這篇很嗨就是
09/06 16:41, 9F

09/06 16:41, , 10F
我覺得A-rod或者Posada機會還大些吧?
09/06 16:41, 10F

09/06 16:42, , 11F
A-Rod 是大家都知道的大熱門吧..只有騙人布跟他競爭
09/06 16:42, 11F

09/06 16:42, , 12F
應該是解讀成 北極的表現適合賽揚 王的表現適合MVP
09/06 16:42, 12F

09/06 16:43, , 13F
這是著眼於兩人表現出來的特質 不是真的說MVP投票時投給王
09/06 16:43, 13F

09/06 16:43, , 14F
樓上那個應該是比較接近原作者想說的..
09/06 16:43, 14F

09/06 16:44, , 15F
就好像真的賽揚投票時~~可能還是要投給C.C比較適合
09/06 16:44, 15F

09/06 16:45, , 16F
只能說今年CYA戰況激烈..沒到季賽結束都還很難說
09/06 16:45, 16F

09/06 16:46, , 17F
美聯大概真的要到季賽結束才會真正明朗吧..現在大概五六個..
09/06 16:46, 17F

09/06 16:46, , 18F
那是沒錯~~而且我還滿看好王的喔~~近來的氣不錯呢XD
09/06 16:46, 18F

09/06 18:28, , 19F
give Wang a vote for Cy Young ~~
09/06 18:28, 19F

09/06 19:50, , 20F
感覺MVP , 還是A-Rod機會大 , 上半季沒他在的話 ... 那就 .
09/06 19:50, 20F

09/06 22:15, , 21F
洋基跟老虎誰能打進季後賽,甚至世界大賽,那MVP大概定
09/06 22:15, 21F

09/06 23:35, , 22F
拿掉Beckett那段 紅襪的戰績寫錯了 拿掉Beckett敗場只會減少
09/06 23:35, 22F

09/07 00:49, , 23F
投手拿MVP太難了..除非整個聯盟的打者都比鳥的…
09/07 00:49, 23F
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