Re: [外電] Twenty-three guys better than …

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※ 引述《peking (=.=)》之銘言： ※ 引述《JilSander (Doer brokenheart)》之銘言： ※ [本文轉錄自 CMWang 看板] 作者: wesun (統一獅王重返榮耀^^) 站內: CMWang 標題: [外電] Twenty-three guys better than Wang? No chance 時間: Tue Apr 8 13:12:52 2008 網路上看到到的...不知道有沒有PO過我不會縮網址 sorry= =" http://www.bugsandcranks.com/new-york-yankees/twenty-three-guys-better-than-wang-no-chance/ (前文恕刪) 9. Chris Young — Laughable that he is on this list. Won 9 games last year and has never won more than 12 in his career. Nice 3.12 ERA, but no better than a two or three on any staff, anywhere. On the Yankees he would be third behind Wang and Andy Pettitte, and maybe fourth behind Phil Hughes. Advantage: Wang 真是有夠好笑的,克力士楊居然在這份名單上.去年總共贏了9場,過去從未有單季12勝以上的紀錄.好的自責分率3.12,但應該只是2號或3號的投球內容.如果在洋基必然排在小王以及派帥的後面,甚至有可能在休斯的後面呢! 小王占上風! 10. Cole Hamels — Hamels is headed for a terrific career. Yet, he has had one full big-league season and has yet to pitch 200 innings. Is he even the Phillies ace, or would that title go to Brett Myers who is back in the rotation after spending last year in the bullpen? Advantage: Wang 漢默斯的職業生涯才正要開始呢!他尚未有一個完整的大聯盟球季也從未單季投過200局以上.他是否會成為費城人的Ace,又或者Ace的頭銜將會被去年轉到牛棚的邁爾斯拿下? 小王占上風! 11. John Lackey — Dominant last season (19-9, 3.01 ERA), but more like Pettitte than a true No. 1. He’s been good for a while, but had never won more than 14 games prior to last season. I need to see him do it again before I call him a true ace. Advantage: Wang 去年球季雷奇展現了他的宰制能力,但比起真正的Ace他更像派帥.他表現不賴已有一段時間了,但從未像去年一樣贏得這麼多場,以前最多只不過贏了14場.他必須再一次展現去年球季般的宰制能力我才會稱他是Ace. 小王占上風! 12. Gil Meche — Like Chris Young, I find it incomprehensible that anyone can think Meche is a better pitcher than Wang. Won 15 games in 2003, but hasn’t won more than 11 since. Went 9-13 last year. I know he hasn’t pitched for good teams, but this is a guy with a 4.47 ERA in 8 seasons. He might be the best starter the Royals have, but you can hardly call him an ace. Advantage: Wang 如同克力士楊一般,我無法理解為何有人會認為梅許會優於小王.梅許03球季贏了15場,但之前從為贏超過11場以上,去年是9勝13敗,你可能會認為那是因為他一直沒有在很好的球隊投球的關係,但是看看他的自責分率吧:8個球季平均4.47.他可能是皇家隊最棒的先發投手,但是你幾乎無法稱他為Ace. 小王輕鬆獲勝! 13. Justin Verlander — This guy is a young Smoltz, a flamethrower who can be absolutely dominant when he is right. He went 35-15 the past two seasons, and at 25 is still growing into what will likely be a great career. Topped 200 innings for the first time last season (201). He has not been successful in the post-season yet, starting four games and pitching to a 5.82 ERA. Right now, he and Wang are probably equal. Verlander, though, is still getting better. Advantage: Verlander 這個家伙是年輕版本的史摩茲,一個當他狀況好的時候能夠宰制比賽的火球投手.過去兩季 35勝15敗而且才25歲,一個仍會進步的年紀.去年他首次投出200局以上.不過仍然沒有好的季後賽表現,4場先發5.82的自責分率.目前看來他和王似乎是差不多.但是瓦蘭德將會變得更好. 瓦蘭德勝出! 14. Matt Cain — Are you freakin’ kidding me? A guy who went 7-16 last season and has a 22-29 career record? Ridiculous! Advantage: Wang 你是在開詭異的玩笑嗎?一個去年投出7勝16敗,生涯只有22勝29敗的投手?太荒謬了! 小王占上風! 15. Mark Buerhle – A couple of years ago this might have been an argument. In 2004 and 2005 Buerhle was an ace. He has fallen a long way, though, going 22-22 the past two seasons and seeing his innings drop from 245 in 2004 to 201 last year. Buerhle is a middle of the rotation guy at this point in his career. Advantage: Wang 兩年前或許還有商榷的空間.在04和05年柏里確實是Ace.但他已經墜落很久了. 過去兩季22勝22敗而且可以吃的局數從245滑落到去年的201.現在的柏里只能夠是先發輪值表中間的投手了. 小王獲勝! 16. Oliver Perez — When I stop laughing maybe I’ll comment on this ………… OK, 15-10, 3.64 ERA last year. A nice year when there were no expectations for him, but he’s not an ace. When the Pirates thought he was ,he pitched himself back to AAA. Better than Wang? If you think so I feel sorry for you. Advantage: Wang 當我停止大笑的時候或許我會回答你培瑞茲是否是個Ace.去年15勝10敗3.64的自責分率是蠻不錯的啦.但那是在沒有人對他有任何期待之下的成績啦,但他絕對不是Ace. 當海盜隊覺得他能扛起Ace的重任時,培瑞茲用他的投球表現把自己又送回了3A.比小王好? 假如你真那麼以為我只能為你感到抱歉了. 小王佔上風! 17. Scott Kazmir — Now this is a guy who COULD be an ace. He won a career high 13 games with a 3.48 ERA and worked more innings than Wang (206.7), but he is still young and still has a lot to prove. Included in that is whether or not he can stay healthy, carry a staff and pitch well in meaningful, pressure games . So far, he’s done none of those things. Advantage: Wang 凱茲摩的確有可能成為Ace.去年贏了13場自責分率3.48而且投了比小王多的 206.7局,但他仍然過於年輕,有許多事情等著他去證明.其中包括了他是否能保持健康, 在重要的有壓力的比賽中是否能投得好.目前為止他都尚未證明這些. 小王獲勝! 18. Kelvim Escobar — Had a breakout season last year (18-7, 3.40 ERA), but prior to that was 90-90 in the first 10 seasons of his career. Great stuff, but one good season does not make him an ace. Advantage: Wang 去年是愛思科巴重大突破的一年,18勝7敗3.40的自責分率.但在之前的10季裡面 90勝90敗,有好的投球內容卻沒有足夠好的一個球季讓他成為Ace. 小王獲勝! 19. Tim Hudson — This guy ‘was’ an ace for years in Oakland. He went 16-10 with a 3.33 ERA for Atlanta in 2007, his best season since 2003. Chews up a lot of innings and is a very good pitcher. To me, a lot like Haren or even Mike Mussina in his prime. Very good, I want him on my staff. But, I’m not sure he’s a No. 1 any longer. Advantage: Wang 當哈森還在運動家隊的時候的確是個Ace.去年哈森為勇士隊貢獻了16勝10敗 3.33的自責分率,但他最好的球季是03年.他是個非常好的投手,可以吃下許多的局數.對我而言,哈森比較類似於海倫或是年輕時候的穆西納.我會很想要他在我的輪值表中,但是我懷疑他早已不是Ace了. 小王獲勝! 20. Chad Billingsley — This guy has tremendous ability and might someday be an ace, but it’s too early for him to be in this conversation. It would like putting the Yankees’ Hughes in here, and at this point neither of them belong. Advantage: Wang 畢林斯利是個擁有很大天份某天或許會成為Ace的投手,但現在把他放在這裡似乎有些言之過早.你也可以把休斯放在這裡,但是現在此時,他們兩個都還稱不上Ace. 小王獲勝! 21. Roy Oswalt — This guy is an ace, but last year pitched his fewest innings (212) and won his fewest games (14) since 2003. He is a guy who doesn’t fear big games and has a 3-2 record in post-season with a 3.66 ERA. This is a tough call for me, but based on how long he has been doing it and the fact that he is still at — or very near — his peak, I would go with the Astro ace. Advantage: Oswalt 奧士華是個Ace!雖然他去年投出自03年以來最少勝(14)以及生涯最少局數(201)的一年.他不畏懼大比賽,在季後賽裡他擁有3勝2敗3.66的自責分率.奧士華勝過小王這個決定對我來說是很困難的,但就他的過去紀錄以及他仍在巔峰或巔峰附近, 我仍決定選擇這個太空人隊的Ace. 奧士華勝出! 22. Fausto Carmona — Carmona was tremendous last season in his first full year in the big leagues, going 19-8 with a 3.06 ERA in 215 innings. If he can do it again then I’ll say he is Wang’s class. But not yet. Advantage: Wang 卡默納去年有著了不起的一個球季19勝8敗在215局中擁有3.06的自責分率, 同時也是他的第一個完整球季.假如他能夠再一次展現出這樣令人驚豔的球季,那麼我將會把他歸於與王同一個等級,但是他仍然沒有. 小王獲勝! 23. Brad Penny — Penny has gone 32-13 the past two seasons. He did, however, post a 4.33 ERA in 2006 and that’s not an ‘ace’ ERA. Like with Carmona, I need to see another year like 2007, when he posted a 3.03 ERA and pitched 208 innings before I call him a real ace. Advantage: Wang 過去兩季潘尼一共是32勝13敗,但是06年ERA卻是糟糕的4.33,這不是一個Ace應該有的ERA.跟卡默納一樣,他必須要證明07年3.03的ERA以及208局的投球是貨真價實的我才會稱他是真正的Ace. 小王獲勝! So, of the 23 starting pitchers ‘Chad’ wants to put ahead of Wang I will give you five, and call Sabathia a ‘push.’ That doesn’t mean there are only 5 guys better than Wang (Roy Halladay, for example, wasn’t on this list). 因此,在查德的23個名單裡只有五位勝過小王,而薩巴西亞則是平手.當然這並不表示只有這五位投手是勝過小王的,比如說不在名單內的洛依哈勒戴. If you are fair about it, though, and really look at the numbers you have to admit Wang ranks pretty darn high on the list of best starting pitchers in the league. 如果你真的很看重這些數字,那麼你必須承認小王的等級在所有先發投手中的確是他X的高. (原文的darn是美國人不方便寫damn時候的代替用法) An ace? Definitely. Arguments, anyone? Let’s hear ‘em. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 208.170.67.192

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