[洋基] 2008年先發投手數據報告

看板NY-Yankees作者 (pika)時間17年前 (2008/12/22 20:59), 編輯推噓24(24018)
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分成以下八種範疇作投手評比: 1) Working Ahead in Count 2) Command 3) Finish Off Hitters 4) Offspeed Effectiveness 5) Overall Effectiveness 6) Dominance 7) Efficiency 8) Battle Tendency 紅色表示聯盟前段 藍色表示聯盟後段 *表示數字愈低愈好 先發投手部份包括:Joba Chamberlain,Alfredo Aceves,Daniel Giese, Philip Hughes,Mike Mussina,Carl Pavano,Andy Pettitte ,Sidney Ponson,Darrell Rasner,Chien-Ming Wang (lol猛然發覺原來有那麼多投手先發過) 沒有Ian Kennedy的數據(宗痛:哭哭我有爆那麼大嗎?) 球數取得領 第一球 前兩球有 前三球有 球數0-1 球數1-1 先的能力 好球率 一球好球 兩球好球 ->0-2 ->1-2 評比 ================================================================= Joba Chamberlain 60% 86% 62% 52% 57% B Alfredo Aceves 58% 87% 61% 62% 41% B- Daniel Giese 65% 89% 61% 45% 49% B- Philip Hughes 59% 90% 57% 42% 41% B- Mike Mussina 67% 91% 68% 49% 56% A- Carl Pavano 56% 83% 59% 44% 59% C+ Andy Pettitte 62% 85% 62% 46% 56% B- Sidney Ponson 54% 82% 55% 52% 50% C Darrell Rasner 56% 85% 58% 50% 52% C+ Chien-Ming Wang 57% 86% 56% 45% 45% C ----------------------------------------------------------------- MLB Avg. 58% 85% 60% 47% 53% 控球 速球好球率 變化球好球率 評比 ==================================================== Joba Chamberlain 63% 62% C+ Alfredo Aceves 68% 61% B Daniel Giese 65% 60% C+ Philip Hughes 64% 60% C+ Mike Mussina 67% 65% B+ Carl Pavano 55% 68% C Andy Pettitte 63% 64% B- Sidney Ponson 63% 56% C- Darrell Rasner 64% 63% B- Chien-Ming Wang 63% 58% C ---------------------------------------------------- MLB Avg. 64% 61% 最終解決打者的能力 兩好球後出局率 評比 ============================================= Joba Chamberlain 73% B- Alfredo Aceves 78% A- Daniel Giese 71% C+ Philip Hughes 72% B- Mike Mussina 73% B- Carl Pavano 66% D+ Andy Pettitte 75% B Sidney Ponson 69% C Darrell Rasner 69% C Chien-Ming Wang 74% B ---------------------------------------------- MLB Avg. 72% Offspeed Well hit average vs. Effectiveness offspeed strikes* 變化球被追打率 評比 ============================================================= Joba Chamberlain 0.034 39% A Alfredo Aceves 0.043 35% B+ Daniel Giese 0.050 33% B+ Philip Hughes 0.067 20% C Mike Mussina 0.079 27% C+ Carl Pavano 0.088 37% B- Andy Pettitte 0.079 35% B- Sidney Ponson 0.089 23% C- Darrell Rasner 0.104 30% C Chien-Ming Wang 0.057 34% B+ ------------------------------------------------------------- MLB Avg. 0.076 31% Overall Well-hit avg. Well-hit avg. 打者回來 Effectiveness (of AB's)* (of strikes)* 被上壘率* 得分比例* 評比 ======================================================================== Joba Chamberlain 0.149 0.051 0.310 8% A- Alfredo Aceves 0.229 0.083 0.294 7% A- Daniel Giese 0.217 0.084 0.293 12% B+ Philip Hughes 0.170 0.059 0.384 17% B Mike Mussina 0.211 0.078 0.315 10% B+ Carl Pavano 0.293 0.117 0.374 15% C Andy Pettitte 0.204 0.079 0.339 13% B Sidney Ponson 0.256 0.108 0.374 14% C+ Darrell Rasner 0.246 0.091 0.351 14% B Chien-Ming Wang 0.247 0.102 0.317 11% B ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MLB Avg. 0.267 0.102 0.338 12% 四球內 三上三下 揮空率 壓制力 三振率 局數比例 評比 ======================================================== Joba Chamberlain 15% 46% 19% A- Alfredo Aceves 11% 35% 19% B- Daniel Giese 12% 43% 14% B Philip Hughes 7% 36% 9% C Mike Mussina 12% 42% 8% B- Carl Pavano 6% 36% 12% C Andy Pettitte 12% 41% 14% B Sidney Ponson 7% 42% 8% C+ Darrell Rasner 9% 41% 9% C+ Chien-Ming Wang 9% 43% 12% B- -------------------------------------------------------- MLB Avg. 11% 31% 14% 投成三壞球 每局第一位 三球內 四球內 效率 的比例* 打者出局 的打席 的打席 評比 ===================================================================== Joba Chamberlain 22% 72% 36% 57% D+ Alfredo Aceves 19% 61% 45% 71% C+ Daniel Giese 19% 80% 44% 64% B- Philip Hughes 22% 54% 43% 19% D- Mike Mussina 14% 72% 46% 64% B Carl Pavano 19% 57% 49% 67% C Andy Pettitte 16% 72% 47% 65% B Sidney Ponson 18% 59% 53% 71% B Darrell Rasner 17% 63% 46% 65% B- Chien-Ming Wang 19% 62% 53% 70% B- --------------------------------------------------------------------- MLB Avg. 19% 68% 47% 65% 跑者回來 球數落後時解決打者比例 Battle Tendency 得分比例* (2-0, 2-1, & 三壞球) 評比 =============================================================== Joba Chamberlain 20% 57% A- Alfredo Aceves 26% 49% B Daniel Giese 24% 56% B+ Philip Hughes 35% 51% B Mike Mussina 29% 60% A- Carl Pavano 32% 48% C+ Andy Pettitte 32% 59% B+ Sidney Ponson 29% 47% B- Darrell Rasner 34% 48% C+ Chien-Ming Wang 24% 57% A- --------------------------------------------------------------- MLB Avg. 36% 54% Overall Grade ================================= Joba Chamberlain B+ Alfredo Aceves B Daniel Giese B Philip Hughes C+ Mike Mussina B Carl Pavano C Andy Pettitte B Sidney Ponson C+ Darrell Rasner C+ Chien-Ming Wang B- --------------------------------- -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 125.224.0.136

12/22 21:01, , 1F
頭推 看到襪版推文就在等這篇了 哈
12/22 21:01, 1F

12/22 21:05, , 2F
Joba好多A,希望明年別受傷啊.....
12/22 21:05, 2F

12/22 21:07, , 3F
最後是少了overall grade嗎?
12/22 21:07, 3F

12/22 21:08, , 4F
免費免費~
12/22 21:08, 4F
※ 編輯: pikachu123 來自: 125.224.0.136 (12/22 21:11)

12/22 21:13, , 5F
Aceves可以期待嗎
12/22 21:13, 5F

12/22 21:14, , 6F
他才先發4.5場還要看看
12/22 21:14, 6F

12/22 21:14, , 7F
當初宗痛也投得很好阿(淚)
12/22 21:14, 7F

12/22 21:17, , 8F
結果最後只有B跟C的差別...
12/22 21:17, 8F

12/22 21:18, , 9F
先發好像只有Cliff Lee有到A
12/22 21:18, 9F

12/22 21:32, , 10F
所以有A就等於有Ace的能力了,那今年洋基只有BC還蠻正常的
12/22 21:32, 10F

12/22 21:33, , 11F
Aceves的樣本數太少了,如果投個一兩年還維持這樣 就可以
12/22 21:33, 11F

12/22 21:34, , 12F
好文 很綜合的比較...推
12/22 21:34, 12F

12/22 21:34, , 13F
A是神吧 應該不是只是Ace而已
12/22 21:34, 13F

12/22 21:36, , 14F
Santana也只有B+所以我覺得投手的分數打得有點嚴格
12/22 21:36, 14F

12/22 21:37, , 15F
像是打者就有好幾個A-,Pujols一堆紅色XD
12/22 21:37, 15F

12/22 21:38, , 16F
抄得很兇唷XD
12/22 21:38, 16F

12/22 21:39, , 17F
這八個部份重要性不是均等的
12/22 21:39, 17F

12/22 21:40, , 18F
那可以伸 打者與後援投手的嗎?
12/22 21:40, 18F

12/22 21:40, , 19F
去看看天使版Levi討論哪些就知道了
12/22 21:40, 19F

12/22 21:40, , 20F
連Dan都可以拿和Pettitte一樣的rating....這真的有用嗎?
12/22 21:40, 20F

12/22 21:43, , 21F
小普每年都紅通通的呀XD
12/22 21:43, 21F

12/22 21:47, , 22F
阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿,我沒有inside edge帳號啊啊啊
12/22 21:47, 22F

12/22 21:47, , 23F
有PAINVANO的耶
12/22 21:47, 23F

12/22 21:49, , 24F
Daniel Giese, 1)局數少, 2)他後援佔2/3, 3)tRA+ 126
12/22 21:49, 24F

12/22 21:50, , 25F
後援跟先發要分開比比較好
12/22 21:50, 25F

12/22 21:50, , 26F
這個是免費的,不過其他的都要帳號
12/22 21:50, 26F

12/22 21:51, , 27F
我有分阿Giles我也不知道要擺後援還是先發
12/22 21:51, 27F

12/22 21:51, , 28F
五個SP的位置 一個球季十個人輪..........
12/22 21:51, 28F

12/22 21:52, , 29F
我們今年有上場的投手是紅襪的2倍我快分不太清楚
12/22 21:52, 29F

12/22 21:52, , 30F
他到底是先發還是後援
12/22 21:52, 30F

12/22 21:55, , 31F
今年王建民受傷後只有moose跟Andy是固定的輪值orz
12/22 21:55, 31F

12/22 21:56, , 32F
他後援丟比較多,還是算後援
12/22 21:56, 32F

12/22 22:20, , 33F
投成三壞球的那個table,Joba顏色應該是藍色的...
12/22 22:20, 33F

12/22 22:21, , 34F
就是效率的那個Table
12/22 22:21, 34F
※ 編輯: pikachu123 來自: 125.224.0.136 (12/22 22:26)

12/22 22:26, , 35F
這個我是一個 一個去看對著打打難免會打錯
12/22 22:26, 35F

12/22 23:10, , 36F
辛苦了 推一個
12/22 23:10, 36F

12/22 23:21, , 37F
辛苦了原po 沒有怪你 只是跟你講有錯的地方 :)
12/22 23:21, 37F

12/22 23:26, , 38F
推~
12/22 23:26, 38F

12/23 00:03, , 39F
感謝~~
12/23 00:03, 39F

12/23 01:48, , 40F
好希望能看到阿宅的數據來比對XD
12/23 01:48, 40F

12/23 07:41, , 41F
好嚴格阿...MLB果然都是怪物
12/23 07:41, 41F

12/23 17:00, , 42F
看來王真的是屬於power pitcher xD
12/23 17:00, 42F
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