[新聞] Yankees could face tough call with Chien-Ming Wang, Phil

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果然是一篇訪問,各自表訴。 王葛格持續被無限期的放在牛棚,等修正好他吃飯傢伙sinker的穩定性,才可能拿回 他先發輪值的位置。   Hughes上來取代屁股沒力的王葛葛後,近來的表現卻讓洋基想不到足夠的理由把他 拉下先發。A-Rod表示Hughes這次對上條子八局無失分,是目前上到大聯盟後最佳的表 現。   總教練Girardi表示: "這就是他上來時我們跟他提到的,希望他投出的結果,會讓我 們很難,很難作決策,投得棒,作到你該作的先發任務。不要覺得我們把你叫上來只是在 作試驗。當我們叫你上來,就是希望你會成功。當一個總教練最棒的事,就是有一個投手 投得好到你很難作決定。" 就這一點來說,Hughes可以正正當當地說他已經達成總教練要他完成的任務。 但在其他方面,洋基還是必須決定如何處理Hughes的問題,特別是王葛葛回來後無法 擺進原來先發的位置時。Girardi表示王葛葛的伸卡球沒有改善前,Hughes還是會留在先 發輪值裡。 "在他重新被放回先發輪值前,我們想要看到他的伸卡球有穩定的品質。" Girardi這樣表 示,他還強調他仍然視王葛葛是個先發投手,不需要害怕會不尊重而叫他一直蹲牛棚。 但無論如何,王葛葛現在還是在牛棚裡,Girardi表示他甚至會在不是需要長中繼的 時候要葛葛上場,和其他後援投手沒有兩樣。他表示: "我們正要求他做他過去不曾擔任的角色,但是那是現在我們需要他的位置。" 但是是否Hughes還能持續像這一樣一直先發呢? Hughes表示他設法不讓自己太去想這 些事,他說: "我不擔心什麼尊不尊重。我知道我會持續每五天上場先發,在某些地方。" 以下略... 來源: http://www.nj.com/yankees/ New York Yankees could face tough call with Chien-Ming Wang, Phil Hughes by Marc Carig/The Star-Ledger Tuesday May 26, 2009, 7:20 AM ARLINGTON, Texas -- The Yankees may have an uneasy situation on their hands. Chien-Ming Wang will remain in the bullpen indefinitely as he works to improve the consistency of his bread-and-butter sinker in hopes of reclaiming his spot in the rotation. But Phil Hughes, who stepped in when Wang went on the disabled list with weakness in his hips, hasn't given the Yankees much reason lately to pull him out of the rotation. In what teammate Alex Rodriguez called the pitcher's best performance in a big-league uniform, Hughes fired eight shutout innings in the Yankees' 11-1 romp against the Rangers on Monday. It was second consecutive strong start for Hughes, who has settled into a groove after some rough outings. "It's what we talked about when he came up, make it difficult, make decisions difficult, pitch great, do what you do," Yankees manager Joe Girardi said. "Don't think we're bringing you up here for a trial. We're bringing you up here to be successful. The best thing you can have as a manager is tough decisions when a guy is throwing well." In that respect, Hughes can rightfully claim mission accomplished. At some point, the Yankees will have to make a decision on what to do with Hughes, especially with Wang back on the big-league roster without a natural place to land. Girardi said Hughes will stay in the rotation until Wang proves in games that his sinker has improved. "We want to see the consistency on his sinker before he gets reinserted (into the rotation)," said Girardi, who emphasized that he still sees Wang as a starter. Nevertheless, while Wang is in the bullpen, Girardi said he would use him even in non-long relief situations, no different that any other reliever. "We're asking him to do something he's never done, but that's where we need him," Girardi said. But what if Hughes continues to pitch as he has? The pitcher said he tries not to concern himself with such things. "I'm not really worried about it," he said. "I know I'm pitching in five days, somewhere." Meanwhile, his teammates gushed about the right-hander's performance, which at times appeared dominant. Hughes allowed just three hits while walking one. "That was real stuff there," Rodriguez said of Hughes. "I was very impressed, you're talking about a very good lineup on their home field. He pounded the strike zone early on, 0-1, 0-2 to everybody." Pitching in Texas for the first time since taking a no-hitter 6 1/3 innings against the Rangers in 2007 (until he was forced to leave the game with a hamstring injury), Hughes grew his scoreless streak at Texas to 14 1/3 innings. He finished Monday with six strikeouts. From the start, Hughes said his curveball felt best, and that the effectiveness of the pitch was key in him working deep into the game. "Right from the get-go, it just felt like I could throw it for a strike whenever I wanted to," Hughes said. "That was definitely a big pitch for me and it got them off my fastball." -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.225.145.28

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尊重魂!
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尊 重
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耿耿你戳破台灣記者的點了 這樣怎麼戰
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05/26 23:12, , 5F
台灣版的訪問完全不一樣xd
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為啥不放休斯在中繼!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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因為one-trick pony,那一招現在不靈...
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把王送去道奇吧T_T
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因為葛格投得比較爛,所以在牛棚;很難理解嗎
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05/26 23:18, , 10F
話說Mussina有陣子也被丟進牛棚,鄉民的反應沒那麼激烈
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05/26 23:19, , 11F
這很正常啊,不過連Moose都被丟過了.. 嘖
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當初穆帥被丟進牛棚老實說我很生氣ˋˊ
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其實這個情況對洋基來說是正面的,會怕,有競爭才有進步
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就像Nady和Swisher,腿弟和小卡布的情況一樣
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05/26 23:21, , 15F
野手跟投手還是不大一樣吧~
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05/26 23:22, , 16F
我覺得比較有意思的是 早先老想推一句: 沒球隊會嫌ACE太多
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更正 或許是說 沒球隊會嫌好投手太多 但是看來還真頭痛
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05/26 23:23, , 18F
如果王建民回到原來身手狀態
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05/26 23:24, , 19F
我覺得還是場面話居多,可是MLB就現實
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05/26 23:26, , 20F
罵不尊重什麼都好,事實就這樣了,尊重也不能當飯吃
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強度一樣一定下放Hughes... 他還有option
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05/26 23:27, , 22F
事實也是王自己sinker不夠穩...
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哭哭 下面那篇還沒看完啦(/‵Д′)/~ ╧╧
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我也認為王如果回到之前的身手 洋基就會把他放回先發輪值
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Moose都放進牛棚那是快季末拼戰績時 但現在是季初...
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但現在很明顯王的狀況還沒完全回來 但也沒option了
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現在的戰績就不重要嗎?
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正確應該是讓兩人都調整好 隨時都能用 而不是等季末有問
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題 再來要求調回到先發
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05/26 23:38, , 30F
沒人說現在戰績不重要 但現在都調好比季末調要來的好
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05/26 23:39, , 31F
阿就不小心讓他上來之後,讓他從牛棚出發啦-_-
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如果小王中繼表現很好 可能就一直中繼下去XD
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寧願王在3A好好調整姿勢和控球~也不要上來被糟蹋
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Moose被丟牛棚,我記得他好像很不爽?但調整後他還是放回來.
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超級不爽
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但是他最後說,不爽歸不爽,但是他知道自己丟的差
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好貴的中繼..XD 結果是其他中繼投手要擔心位置嗎? (誤)
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當然最好的情況還是王狀況回來 回到SP輪值囉~
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Moose幾年資歷,王幾年資歷(攤手)
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還有 155 則推文
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不過若真的Joba被迫進入DL,洋基確實沒得選擇.
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如果是這樣的話, 蹲在大聯盟牛棚只會更沒用
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今天只是Joba沒啥大礙還能上場投而已.
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更沒用喔??反正Moose都調的回來了,何必不相信王??
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JOBA進DL 拉小朋友ACE來頂 讓王繼續調整 也許你會接受
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反正Moose住的也不遠,王可以去跟他請教在牛棚調整的日子啊
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這是有沒有效率的問題, 能在小聯盟調的就不會讓他轉牛棚
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所有球團都是這樣運作, 大聯盟不是讓球員調整的地方
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又迂迴回來了...教練團是故意拉王上來牛棚調整的嗎?
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你就認了吧,對了,今天王出場的機率越來越大哩,先看看吧.
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科科科 現在看起來根本就是啊 有任何反面的證據嗎?
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而且角色從長中繼變成一般牛囉~ 顯然受不了白佔一個位子
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對嘛~你早說你覺得教練團是看王不爽要惡搞他
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大家也不用浪費時間在這邊打字了
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我是不知道一般牛還得吃到三局拉,也許是你的新見解.
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只能說這決定既冒險又無腦, 至於是什麼動機不需要去管
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05/27 11:19, , 211F
這不是 Girardi 訪問的時候講的嗎 不限一般 LRP 出場時機
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明明動機才是重點,卻要忽視不管,讚喔.
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我發現某人真的很喜歡編草人耶, 編了我也不會對號入座
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他講啥是一回事,實際上怎麼用才是重點,今天有機會看哩.
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"動機"就算是好的也不會讓錯誤的決定變成對的 反之亦然
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笑死人了 你不也是在幫教練團編草人
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你就看吧,只在這發牢騷也沒用,搞不好王投的很好呢.
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所以一直往動機裡鑽有什麼意義呢? 錯的決定還是錯的
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這種出場時機只有一個評語: 有功無賞 打破要賠
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投的好也只能換來一句"再觀察" 投不好就有得被酸了
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05/27 11:22, , 221F
先聲明, 我不認為這種時機投的好就代表準備好回先發了
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那加油吧,請繼續編劇本吧,還挺精采的.
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LRP 從來都不是觀察投手先發能力的好地方
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呵呵 開口閉口不離動機的才是在編劇本吧
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科科 某人戰了一天拉進牛棚的錯誤還不累喔
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少投一場minor就會讓他從ACE變B喀呀
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05/27 13:18, , 227F
請把自己的爛邏輯收起來, 如果多投兩場沒辦法調整回來
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連這兩場都不讓他投只會更糟, 因為連調整的機會都沒有
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現在看起來, 王還沒有調整好就被拉上來應該是共識吧?
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樓上去LIVE文瞧瞧 有誰是理性的這樣在看待?
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沒調整好又怎樣 怎麼不給上不給上不給上!!!
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科科科 話也是 FO 自己放出來的 怪鄉民幹嘛
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而且有些根本是等著酸的
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會不會今天不上是為了舖梗, 明天又擺回 DL 了?
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