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[外電] Yankees Open To Trading Ivan Nova

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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/11/yankees-open-ivan-nova-trade.html MENU TEAMS logo image AdTech Ad Yankees Open To Trading Ivan Nova November 24th, 2015 at 6:28pm CST ‧ By Steve Adams The Yankees have let other teams know that right-hander Ivan Nova is available in trades, reports Joel Sherman of the New York Post. However, the team isn’ t keen on selling low on Nova and is rather marketing the 29-year-old as a pit cher in his prime who will be stronger and improved next season when he’s a y ear further removed from Tommy John surgery. The market for Nova figures to be something of a mixed bag, but it’s hard to envision a team paying full price considering he’s a year removed from free a gency and coming off a season that was cut short by recovery from his aforemen tioned surgery. Nova logged just 94 innings with an unsightly 5.07 ERA, averag ing just 6.0 K/9 against 3.2 BB/9 with a 49 percent ground-ball rate this past season. He did manage a 3.72 ERA through his first 58 innings before perhaps wearing down and yielding four or more runs in four of his final seven outings . That season certainly didn’t bolster Nova’s trade stock, but teams could loo k to be opportunistic in acquiring an arm who delivered strong results in both 2011 and 2013 and also projects to earn a modest $4.4MM salary in 2016 (in th e estimation of MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz). In Nova’s peak season, 2013, he posted a 3.10 ERA with 7.5 K/9, 2.8 BB/9 and a 53.5 percent ground-ball rat e in 139 1/3 innings of work. It should also be noted that for all of his stru ggles, Nova averaged 93 mph on his fastball in 2015 — the same mark he averag ed in 2013 and a bit faster than his 2011 average. Sherman notes that there are scenarios where the Yankees could package Nova wi th additional talent in order to acquire a starter with multiple years of cont rol remaining, although that’s clearly a nebulous scenario with myriad possib ilities. The Yankees are said to be very open-minded this winter, with outfiel der Brett Gardner and closer Andrew Miller among the names who have been said to be available (though Miller would require a significant return). Both could conceivably net a controllable pitcher if packaged with Nova, though that’s just speculation on my behalf. 明年即將成為自由球員的Nova 洋基放出可交易的訊息 只有一年約的情形下 揪竟有沒有球隊願意接手呢？ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 42.79.47.89 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NY-Yankees/M.1448455493.A.41F.html
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11/25 21:13, , 1F
Cash最近還說Adam Warren要去當SP勒
11/25 21:13, 1F
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11/25 21:39, , 2F
希望能用Nova換到能用的2B...
11/25 21:39, 2F
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11/25 21:46, , 3F
Nova這種成績,換到的貨能是啥樣
11/25 21:46, 3F
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11/25 21:54, , 4F
Franklin ?
11/25 21:54, 4F
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11/25 21:56, , 5F
也是 還是期待我們農場比較實在
11/25 21:56, 5F
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11/25 21:57, , 6F
哪還不如用Ackley或Refsnyder
11/25 21:57, 6F
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11/25 21:58, , 7F
低點 換不到什麼
11/25 21:58, 7F
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11/25 21:59, , 8F
開放交易是預期中的事,沒位置給他了
11/25 21:59, 8F
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11/25 22:00, , 9F
Severino/Tanaka/Eovaldi/Pineda/CC/Warren 好,滿了
11/25 22:00, 9F
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11/25 22:00, , 10F
希望去競標前田 入札金不算在豪華稅+不用丟選秀權
11/25 22:00, 10F
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11/25 22:01, , 11F
競標前田然後你要丟掉誰？
11/25 22:01, 11F
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11/25 22:06, , 12F
換不到東西換兩袋球也好，明年FA也一定直接放掉啊
11/25 22:06, 12F
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11/25 22:13, , 13F
或者換個問法 洋基的輪值有強到不需要補一位先發?
11/25 22:13, 13F
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11/25 22:14, , 14F
當然大家都知道最需要的是#1 像Grienke或PRICE
11/25 22:14, 14F
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11/25 22:14, , 15F
但是有錢嗎XD?
11/25 22:14, 15F
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11/25 22:26, , 16F
好阿,補先發,然後你要丟誰？Eovaldi?
11/25 22:26, 16F
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11/25 22:26, , 17F
還是叫CC去牛棚?
11/25 22:26, 17F
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11/25 22:26, , 18F
錢是老闆願不願意花 再加豪華稅會很可觀
11/25 22:26, 18F
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11/25 22:27, , 19F
這個問題nickyang上面有文章談過了,我想不用說太多
11/25 22:27, 19F
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11/25 22:51, , 20F
那篇我有看過 主要論述點在於洋基需要會吃局數的SP
11/25 22:51, 20F
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11/25 22:51, , 21F
這是話術啊！你問有強到不用補先發？不細細思考，
11/25 22:51, 21F
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11/25 22:51, , 22F
強的就直接回是。但若是問有弱到要補先發？同樣的人
11/25 22:51, 22F
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11/25 22:51, , 23F
回否
11/25 22:51, 23F
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11/25 22:51, , 24F
但如果花超過20M在上面同時又要丟掉Eovaldi/Pineda
11/25 22:51, 24F
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11/25 22:52, , 25F
如果真要搶 就是Price而已吧 前田還是有風險吧
11/25 22:52, 25F
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11/25 22:52, , 26F
當然現在SP很多 而且Eov Pineda Severino
11/25 22:52, 26F
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11/25 22:53, , 27F
這三個人每個其實都滿值得養的
11/25 22:53, 27F
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11/25 22:53, , 28F
CP值不高。不知前田要花多少錢就是 入札的20M跑
11/25 22:53, 28F
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11/25 22:54, , 29F
前田並不會比便宜的那三個好多少 還是要CC去牛棚?
11/25 22:54, 29F
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11/25 22:55, , 30F
你還是沒回答到我的問題阿
11/25 22:55, 30F
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11/25 22:55, , 31F
補先發,那多的人怎辦？
11/25 22:55, 31F
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11/25 22:56, , 32F
前田你怎麼知道能吃局數
11/25 22:56, 32F
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11/25 22:56, , 33F
另外Eovaldi也算是能吃局數的 要丟掉咪
11/25 22:56, 33F
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11/25 22:58, , 34F
NOVA ...低點可以換到...?
11/25 22:58, 34F
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11/25 22:58, , 35F
兩袋球
11/25 22:58, 35F
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11/25 22:58, , 36F
而且可控制年只剩一年 更沒價
11/25 22:58, 36F
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11/25 22:59, , 37F
如果拿Nova去換個牛 這想法可行嗎@@?
11/25 22:59, 37F
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11/25 22:59, , 38F
其實我們小聯盟不缺可洗的牛
11/25 22:59, 38F
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11/25 23:00, , 39F
整體來說就是今年冬天FA大概都不用想
11/25 23:00, 39F
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11/25 23:00, , 40F
Miller交易出去後有機會簽/交易隻可用的牛
11/25 23:00, 40F
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11/25 23:01, , 41F
恩... 看來Nova也換不到什麼好的牛= =
11/25 23:01, 41F
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11/25 23:01, , 42F
丟牛棚的話以未來性來說當然是丟C.C和Warren
11/25 23:01, 42F
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11/25 23:01, , 43F
然後有機會補個2B
11/25 23:01, 43F
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11/25 23:02, , 44F
只是丟C.C牛棚大概會被嫌錢太多XDD
11/25 23:02, 44F
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11/25 23:05, , 45F
老人太多,基本上可動的位置太少
11/25 23:05, 45F
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11/25 23:09, , 46F
明年結束清掉Teix的22.5m+Beltran的15m
11/25 23:09, 46F
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11/25 23:09, , 47F
後年是A-Rod的20M+CC25M
11/25 23:09, 47F
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11/25 23:10, , 48F
才有薪資空間買買FA
11/25 23:10, 48F
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11/25 23:11, , 49F
今年都還有季後賽 這套再撐個兩年應該不是問題
11/25 23:11, 49F
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11/25 23:11, , 50F
成績還沒有糟到像湖人那樣觀眾要不買帳了
11/25 23:11, 50F
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11/25 23:19, , 51F
今年的觀眾人數是近5年最低
11/25 23:19, 51F
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11/25 23:29, , 52F
蛤? 我印象中怎麼今年比前兩年好? 囧
11/25 23:29, 52F
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11/25 23:29, , 53F
近五年也就是奪冠以後的五年來最差啊@@
11/25 23:29, 53F
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11/25 23:45, , 54F
前兩年有退休話題可以炒啊 今年話題性不高
11/25 23:45, 54F
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11/26 09:04, , 55F
不意外~~
11/26 09:04, 55F
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11/26 13:26, , 56F
Teix約滿之後還會有續約的必要跟價值嗎？
11/26 13:26, 56F
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11/26 13:30, , 57F
當然沒有啊，連QO都不會有
11/26 13:30, 57F
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11/26 13:35, , 58F
要是明年Teix表現正常的話……把他換掉吧?
11/26 13:35, 58F
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11/26 14:06, , 59F
名單上只能有25人，不是說要換就能換的
11/26 14:06, 59F
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11/26 14:23, , 60F
希望鳥弟能找到機會上場啊，不要只能等Teix受傷……
11/26 14:23, 60F
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11/26 21:34, , 61F
鐵爺約到了就不會留了吧 雖然今年回溫不過還是痛痛
11/26 21:34, 61F
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11/26 21:34, , 62F
趕快給鳥多點機會比較好
11/26 21:34, 62F
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11/26 23:08, , 63F
若Teix明年能威整年，給個QO撈選秀撈選秀的可行性?
11/26 23:08, 63F
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11/26 23:13, , 64F
有幾個球隊會想為了一個37歲的1B丟選秀權?
11/26 23:13, 64F
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11/27 00:21, , 65F
當年是有一個球隊為了37歲不太能守的RF丟選秀權啦:p
11/27 00:21, 65F
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11/27 11:13, , 66F
樓上 XDDDDDD
11/27 11:13, 66F
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11/27 11:44, , 67F
有可能嘗試把Nova丟到牛棚嗎...........？
11/27 11:44, 67F
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11/27 21:22, , 68F
叫全職先發轉後援……難度頗高的
11/27 21:22, 68F
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11/28 13:57, , 69F
低點......只能當package中的pieces
11/28 13:57, 69F
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11/29 15:04, , 70F
不過如果真的威整季 我相信會給QO的 反正也才1年
11/29 15:04, 70F
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11/29 15:21, , 71F
然後Bird又沒位置站了
11/29 15:21, 71F
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11/29 17:13, , 72F
就算給QO Teix也不會接受 他應該還是要複數合約
11/29 17:13, 72F
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11/29 18:03, , 73F
他想要一份退休金合約(￣▽￣)
11/29 18:03, 73F
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11/29 20:48, , 74F
Teix2016如果可以打得跟今年一樣就算給他QO也不會要
11/29 20:48, 74F
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12/02 12:20, , 75F
Price那種約 大家覺得如果是洋基好嗎?
12/02 12:20, 75F
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12/02 13:36, , 76F
不好，Next CC
12/02 13:36, 76F
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12/02 13:36, , 77F
但沒有辦法，你不出到30M就簽不到，所以我不會把這
12/02 13:36, 77F
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12/02 13:37, , 78F
個看成overpaid
12/02 13:37, 78F
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12/02 15:02, , 79F
成敗論英雄，只要拿的到冠軍，花多少都划算
12/02 15:02, 79F
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12/02 15:03, , 80F
但是在結果出來前，你永遠沒辦法去衡量這合約好不好
12/02 15:03, 80F
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12/02 15:06, , 81F
永遠都沒辦法衡量，你以為MLB付薪水給FO是付爽的嗎
12/02 15:06, 81F
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12/02 15:06, , 82F
球迷可以看爽的當然不需要衡量，領這筆錢的哪裡能說
12/02 15:06, 82F
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12/02 15:07, , 83F
這種話。老闆，這兩億鎂你先簽下去，好不好我也不知
12/02 15:07, 83F
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12/02 15:07, , 84F
道啦～
12/02 15:07, 84F
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12/02 19:48, , 85F
結果會怎麼樣現在還未知 但是在簽約之前都有一套完
12/02 19:48, 85F
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12/02 19:48, , 86F
善的風險評估 至少可以選擇投報率有機會高的做為
12/02 19:48, 86F
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12/03 08:26, , 87F
因為我們有切身之痛 有CC 有冠軍 不吃爛約簽不下
12/03 08:26, 87F
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12/03 08:26, , 88F
所以才會覺得 這樣到底好或不好 或是輪值裡乾脆5個
12/03 08:26, 88F
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12/03 08:27, , 89F
2~3號等級的SP為目標
12/03 08:27, 89F
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