[閒聊] Should They Sign Adam Dunn Long-Term?

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這是國民非官方論壇Federal Baseball討論Dunn的文章，原文作者對於Dunn有諸多疑慮，雖然推崇他的打擊Power，但卻非常擔心他的防守。原文有不少情緒性用詞，所以我的翻譯也會用比較... 嗯... 非正式的語法，請不要介意，如果大家覺得不適當的話我再大E修文。原文網址 http://tinyurl.com/ylefwvb Washington Nationals: Should They Sign Adam Dunn Long-Term? by Ed Chigliak on Mar 1, 2010 10:02 PM EST The 2-year/$20 million dollar contract then-DC GM Jim Bowden offered Adam Dunn last February had the hallmarks of all the bad Bowden (pronounced bO-den) deals he'd made while running things in the nation's capital, following the trade for Felipe Lopez and Austin Kearns, (both former Reds like Dunn), the signing of another Cincy project, Wily Mo Pena, and the two-year deals he gave to Ronnie Belliard, Dmitri Young and Cristian Guzman, and it came with no one in baseball willing to come close to what Washington was offering Dunn, which in the end is why the 29-year-old 40 HR/100 RBI "guarantee" eventually ending up signing in DC. 去年二月，當時的國民隊總管Jim Bowden給了Dunn一張2年20M的合約，這張合約也是Bowden任內簽過的爛約裡面最具代表性的其中一筆，至於Bowden還幹過哪些腦殘的事，來來來，現在就報給你知: 1.從紅人交易來F.Lopez和A.Kearns。譯者註: Lopez在WAS的成績慘不忍睹... 2007 AVG.245 OPS.659 2008 AVG.234 OPS.619 (100場) 季中被送到紅鳥。然後，Lopez在紅鳥的成績... 2008 AVG.385 OPS.965 (43場) Austin Kearns這兩年在WAS成績更慘，AVG都在2成上下而已。去年底成為FA被笑臉人簽下。 2.換來前紅人球員Wily Mo Pena。譯者註: 這傢伙也是很坎坷的，16歲時梅子要簽，但沒簽成。後來被洋基簽下，18歲時被換到紅人，紅人視其為重要新秀!! 20歲在紅人debut，一直被認為很有潛力，卻一直沒打出來。 '06年被紅人換到紅襪，'07年又被紅襪換到國民。 '08年季後被國民釋出，從此消失於MLB戰場，時年26歲。 3.簽下R.Belliard、Young大哥、C.Guzman。譯者註: Belliard在2008年成績不錯(OPS.845)，可惜痛痛(?)出賽未滿100場。 2009年就炸開了(OPS.670)，然後就去了躲人。他今年會隨躲人來台灣跟中職聯隊打熱身賽喔!!! Young大哥就別說了，2009整年沒有出賽紀錄，成為FA待業中。 Guzman還是球隊的先發游擊手，但在Yahoo! SS Ranks排名第28。我想大家都知道MLB總共有幾隊... 囧rz 在幹完這些蠢事之後，Bowden向Dunn丟出了這張2年20M的合約，當時全世界沒有人願意向Dunn開出相同等級的合約，所以咧~ 這位幾乎年年保證40HR/100RBI的選手才會選擇與國民簽約。 (譯者註: 想當年PTT一堆人說Dunn才20M/2Y好便宜... 我到現在也還是覺得這個價碼買一門砲很划算。) After five straight seasons of at least 40 HR's, Dunn fell short of forty last season, connecting on just 38 HR's in 159 games, though he came closer to a .400 OBP (.398) than he's come since he finished at .400 even in 2002 with the Reds. The 6'6'', 278lb Texas-born-and-raised left-handed slugger played left as long as they would let him last year, putting up a worst-ever UZR/150* of (-38.2) in 62 games in left field, with a slightly less unsightly (-25.0) UZR/150 in 67 games at first. (ed. note - "Don't ask about right field, it's in the (-40's) or something."), but he quickly endeared himself to the DC Faithful with the kind of power not seen since Frank Howard was turning RFK's seats white. The kind of HR's that have always kept fans in seats since the Senators of the 70's, waiting until that last AB's over just in case he sends one out...Which is why the Washington Nationals are considering signing Adam Dunn to an extension... 在連續五年打出40HR/100RBI+的成績後('06年僅92RBI)， Dunn去年"只"幹了38轟，但他的上壘率卻來到接近四成(.398)，這是Dunn自從'02年在紅人的.400以來，上壘率最高的一季。這個6呎6吋，在德州土生土長的左手大砲去年有62場比賽擔任左外野手。 UZR/150是史上最爛*的-38.2，而在他擔任一壘手的67場比賽， UZR/150是比較不難看一點點的-25.0，但仍舊很爛。 (原作者碎碎念: 你問我Dunn守右外野的數據?? 不要問，很恐怖。UZR/150大概是-40.0之類的吧~) 不過他很快地用他的大棒子擄獲了首都球迷的心，因為人人都愛大棒子。畢竟首都球迷們在Frank Howard之後就再也沒有看過這種等級的大棒子了。想當年F.Howard的魅力可是經常讓RFK球場座無虛席的咧~ (譯者註: F.Howard於1965~1971年在華盛頓參議員隊打球。在1968~1970這三年分別打出44/48/44HR，入選All-Star Game， OPS+為170/178/170，生涯OPS+則是142。) 像Dunn這種巨砲打者，就像70年代的參議員隊，總是可以把現場球迷留到最後，只因為球迷不願錯過他把球扛出去的爽感。這也是為什麼華盛頓國民隊會考慮跟Dunn簽下延長合約... ================================================================== 棒球小常識 UZR:= Ultimate Zone Rating UZR的數字代表的是一個球員比一個該位置的平均球員多守下多少分，也就是說，Dunn在2009年守左外野的UZR/150是-38.2，代表如果讓他站左外野150場，會比一個平均的左外野手多丟38.2分。若想深入了解防守相關數據，請至下列網頁。 http://anakinlai.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post_16.html ================================================================== The idea first came up, publically at least, during the Washington Nationals' Hot Stove Lunch, when the team made the mistake (I'm kidding) of letting the fans ask the Nationals' GM, team President and several players anything they wanted in a public setting with members of the print, radio, tv and internet media in attendance. Of course, one enthusiatic Dunn fan asked DC GM Mike Rizzo, (as recounted by Washington Post writer Chico Harlan in a Nationals Journal article entitled, "Adam Dunn contract extension talk at Nationals hot stove lunch"), "...if there was a timetable to extend Dunn's contract, because," the fan continued, "we'd really like to see him retire as a National," and to the surprise of many, (including this intrepid repor...writ..blah..uh?), Mr. Rizzo responded: "'It's something that we've discussed with Adam and his people... We had a little conversation this afternoon about it. ... Seriously, he's become one of the family. We love him here. He had a terrific season for us last year, he's one of the most consistent players in the league, and he's a guy that fits for us long-term.'" (ed. note - "Seriously? Does the fact that Mr. Rizzo had to qualify not strike anyone else as humorous?") 這個(延長合約)想法第一次出現，嗯... 至少是在公開場合第一次出現，是在國民隊與球迷、平面/廣播/電視/網路記者們的一場Hot Stove午餐會裡。當時球隊不知道為什麼犯腦殘(開玩笑的別當真)，居然讓球迷自由提問，而且是當著媒體的面，不論球迷想問球隊總管、總裁還是球員問題都可以。當然，這時候有一個狂熱的Dunn迷對著總管Mike Rizzo發問了: 「請問球隊有與Dunn簽下延長合約的計畫嗎??」「因為我們這些球迷都很希望看到Dunn穿著國民隊的球衣退休喔!!」 (後來這段話被華盛頓郵報記者Harlan拿去在國民隊期刊上大作文章，還用了標題殺人法《國民隊在熱爐午餐會上大談亞當蛋的延長合約》。) 語畢，眾人大驚(包括了那位勇敢的記者... 編劇... 或是... 隨便啦)。對著受驚的眾人，Rizzo回答: 「這件事我們早跟蛋哥還有他的人(經紀人?)討論過了，」「我們今天下午講過一點點(譯者: 啊不是還在午餐聚會??)」「說實在的，蛋哥早就是我們這個大家庭的一份子了。」「我們都愛他，也希望他在這。他去年給了我們一個很棒的球季，」「而他又是整個大聯盟裡最穩定的選手之一，」「我們當然希望他長長久久待在這裡，他太適合我們了。」 (原文作者碎碎念: 真的假的啦?! Rizzo不是在跟我們開玩笑吧?!) (譯者註: Hot Stove指在寒冷的冬天裡，因為沒有棒球比賽可以看，所以球迷只能聚在熱烘烘的暖爐前聊一些關於棒球的事-- 諸如球員簽約、交易等球員動態與球隊補強動作之類的事。) At the time, Dunn cautioned that, "...it sounded a lot cooler up there than it really was," telling Mr. Harlan, "We're just getting everything going; kind of one of those deals." "One of those deals" today, became the 30-year-old incumbent first baseman telling Nationals Insider's Mark Zuckerman in a post entitled, "Dunn ready to commit", that he wants to remain a National beyond this year, and as Mr. Zuckerman writes, "...if Dunn had his way, he and the Nats would agree to a long-term extension before the club breaks camp." 之後，Dunn被記者Harlan告知了這件事，「他講的好像沒什麼嘛...」Dunn說: 「嘿嘿~ 其實我們早就偷偷來了，哈~ 好啦~ 我們只是談了一下，」「啊談合約不都是醬~」嗯... 這句"談合約不都是醬~"一到了記者(編劇)手上，馬上就變成一篇報導了。標題叫做《蛋哥準備好要簽了!!》報導內容還說，根據國民球團內部消息，國民隊30歲現任一壘手蛋哥說他想要繼續當個國民!!更猛的是，記者還寫，如果一切進行順利，蛋哥將與國民隊在春訓前簽下延長合約!! It took Washington til the middle of April last year to finally agree on the deal that will keep Ryan Zimmerman in Washington through twenty-thirteen. Zimmerman signed a 5-year/$45 million dollar deal to affirm his commitment to being part of what DC GM Mike Rizzo and team President Stan Kasten are building. Does Adam Dunn fit into the Nationals' long-term plans? Wait, Rizzo just said he did. Before he signed in DC, Dunn was destined for retireme...uh, a DH role in the American League, how many more years will he be able to produce at this level? Shouldn't Rizzo get a bigger sample of his play at first before deciding? Is that mean? Should Washington sign Adam Dunn to an extension? How much will it take? (ed. note - " * = I don't know if it was the worst ever, but it was atrocious.") (ed. note - "If you haven't seen Washington Post writer Adam Kilgore's post entitled, "Adam Dunn takes the mound", you should have clicked that link before finishing the sentence...because it looks like it might be Strasburg and Dunn, one and two in the rotation in 2011.") 拜託... 去年國民隊拖到四月中才跟當家球星Zimmerman簽下延長合約，讓這位自產的明星三壘手可以在國民隊至少待到2013年。 Zimmerman簽下5年45M的長約，成為國民總管Rizoo與總裁Kasten打造球隊的基石。 Dunn真的符合國民隊的長期計畫嗎?? 好啦，Rizzo才剛說過他適合。哇咧拜託咧... 在Dunn跟國民簽約前(2008球季結束後Dunn成為FA)，他本來要退休... 喔說錯了，他本來打算被美聯球隊簽去打DH的耶~ (這表示什麼?? 這表示他根本就不能防守... ) 他還能維持這樣的打擊成績(40HR/100RBI)幾年?? 難道Rizoo不應該多看幾場Dunn守一壘的表現再來決定要不要跟他簽長約嗎?? 或者我們該問: 國民隊應該跟Dunn簽長約嗎?? 簽下去會有什麼後果?? (原文作者碎碎念: 好啦~ 我其實不確定Dunn在左外野的UZR是不是史上最爛，但有差嗎?? 這種數據已經爛透了~ 是不是史上最爛不重要了。) (原文作者碎碎念: 如果你沒看過華盛頓郵報專欄作家K大的大作-- 那篇標題叫《Adam Dunn takes the mound》的文章，那你真的該去看看內文，免得你光看標題，還以為Strasburg跟Dunn會是國民隊2011年的投手輪值咧!!) 譯者註: 原來全世界的記者都一樣... 斷章取義外加標題殺人法... -- 我個人認為，Dunn適合的合約長度大概在三年內(34歲以前)，雖然說他的選球很好，但畢竟他是一個Contact差的打者，隨著年紀越來越大，當他Power弱化，投手不再畏懼投好球給他打時， Contact差的Dunn可能會很慘，原文作者的擔憂不無道理。他不像Todd Helton，Helton除了一壘防守比Dunn好很多以外， Power消失還可以靠Contact彌補，但他的長約依舊帶給洛磯隊薪資上不小的壓力。不過看Dunn那種每一次揮棒都想把球打爆的感覺，還滿爽的。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 163.29.130.56 ※ 編輯: KennyKuo 來自: 163.29.130.56 (03/04 13:56)