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※ [本文轉錄自 MLB 看板 #1FBzh4mz ] 作者: blackcellar (Go Fish!) 看板: MLB 標題: [外電] Rockies Close To Acquiring Jeremy Guth 時間: Mon Feb 6 21:50:57 2012 Rockies Close To Acquiring Jeremy Guthrie http://tinyurl.com/7jvr28e By Tim Dierkes [February 6, 2012 at 7:38am CST] The Rockies and Orioles are nearing an agreement that would send starter Jeremy Guthrie to Colorado, most likely for pitchers Jason Hammel and Matt Lindstrom, reports Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun. Connolly believes a third piece for the Orioles was discussed, but the sides settled on Hammel and Lindstrom. Guthrie's arbitration hearing was scheduled for this morning, but is believed to have been postponed. With a $3MM gap, the righty's arbitration case has a sizeable spread. Guthrie, 32, has been a regular in Baltimore's rotation since being claimed off waivers from the Indians five years ago. Last year he posted a 4.33 ERA, 5.6 K/9, 2.9 BB/9, 1.13 HR/9, and 39.6% groundball rate in 208 innings for the Orioles. His skills suggest a 200-inning, 4.50 ERA guy in the AL East. Guthrie will be a useful addition for a Rockies rotation long on options but short on stability, assuming his proclivity to surrender home runs doesn't worsen. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.168.161.187
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02/06 21:51, , 1F
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02/06 21:54, , 3F
哪招
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02/06 21:55, , 4F
說好的亞洲王牌輪值呢
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02/06 22:06, , 5F
來打台灣賽又一個被交易啦XDDDD
02/06 22:06, 5F
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02/06 22:09, , 6F
簽一堆新投手,把原來的王牌換掉...((好悲情....
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02/06 22:09, , 7F
金鳥把1號丟出去啦?!
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02/06 22:18, , 8F
滾滾滾
02/06 22:18, 8F
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02/06 22:18, , 9F
他勝投要變多了 可是金鶯少掉強投
02/06 22:18, 9F
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02/06 22:20, , 10F
一換二 現在連唯一的ACE也不見了
02/06 22:20, 10F
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02/06 22:20, , 11F
未免對新簽的投手太有信心...
02/06 22:20, 11F
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02/06 22:33, , 12F
是說臺灣記者應該會很高興吧 但我實在高興不起來...
02/06 22:33, 12F
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02/06 22:36, , 13F
古斯利算是被低估很兇的王牌啊...
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02/06 22:38, , 14F
你讓人家 吞17敗 又要交易他 公理何在
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02/06 22:40, , 15F
因為覺得對不起他 所以讓他去可以拿勝投的地方XD
02/06 22:40, 15F
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02/06 22:46, , 16F
這什麼?
02/06 22:46, 16F
[後續相關] Orioles Designate Clay Rapada For Assignment http://tinyurl.com/6u6w4o6 The Orioles designated lefty Clay Rapada for assignment to open a 40-man roster spot in the wake of their recent two-for-one trade. ※ 編輯: blackcellar 來自: 118.168.161.187 (02/06 22:51)
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02/06 22:50, , 17F
Guthrie真的很衰小...不然其實是很不錯的投手
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02/06 22:50, , 18F
借轉
02/06 22:50, 18F
※ lightring:轉錄至看板 Rockies 02/06 22:50
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02/06 23:16, , 19F
看攏謀 誰來講解一下
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02/06 23:18, , 20F
天啊!!!這哪招...?
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02/06 23:33, , 21F
o_0
02/06 23:33, 21F
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02/06 23:35, , 22F
兩邊球員薪水 Guthrie 8.2M, Lindstrom/Hammel 8.35M
02/06 23:35, 22F
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02/06 23:38, , 23F
金鶯想賭Hammel反彈 洛磯想要能穩定吃局數的Guthrie
02/06 23:38, 23F
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02/06 23:38, , 24F
Guthrie/Lindstrom 都剩一年變 FA, Hammel 2年
02/06 23:38, 24F
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02/06 23:40, , 25F
為啥要拿現成的去賭別人反彈? 沒道理啊
02/06 23:40, 25F
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02/06 23:40, , 26F
如果 Guthrie 不是金鳥王牌的話, 這交易不離譜
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02/06 23:41, , 27F
還是不懂 這樣是哪一邊可以省到錢?
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02/06 23:41, , 28F
不離譜 可是沒有意義啊?
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02/06 23:42, , 29F
金鳥省一些 而且去年 ERA+ Guthrie 95 Hammel 94
02/06 23:42, 29F
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02/06 23:42, , 30F
尬的
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02/06 23:43, , 31F
所以問題就在於 Guthrie 是金鳥王牌阿
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02/06 23:43, , 32F
洛磯這個冬天收了一票SP 換一個飛球投手來吃局數?
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照你說Hammel 2年 怎麼會是金鳥省錢 難道要nontender?
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02/06 23:46, , 34F
問題是，落磯有一票年輕肉體等著展現實力
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02/06 23:48, , 35F
說真的我看不懂洛磯這個冬天在幹嘛...
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02/06 23:50, , 36F
然後拿一個後段+中等RP換一個人回來卡他們的位，也沒
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有省到什麼錢，的確是看不太懂
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Lindstrom 還有 2013 club option
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原來付給一個人的薪水拿來付給兩個人
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好吧 數字上沒省到
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02/06 23:55, , 41F
野手也很怪啊 Cuddyer+Blake+Scutaro 你們農場沒人可練嗎
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金鶯的思維?
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02/06 23:56, , 43F
Smith和Stewart被交易出去 先發名單根本全砍了嘛
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02/06 23:57, , 44F
還有Iannetta跟被賤賣的Street
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02/06 23:59, , 45F
我記得都沒換到啥新秀?
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02/06 23:59, , 46F
換這兩支幹麻
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02/06 23:59, , 47F
兩邊的思維都看不懂 哪位大大解釋一下
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我也不懂...不過繼續深究下去會胃痛...
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Iannetta換回Chatwood，街男換$$
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個人猜測金鶯覺得仲裁輸掉的機率大 要付10.75M給Guthrie
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只是金鶯怎麼沒換一隻新秀回來...
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借轉Orioles
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※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: sask (220.130.36.2), 時間: 02/07/2012 09:08:40
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Who is ACE now?
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Chen~
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Ace走了 希望陳和和田頂的住
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想太多...還是期待Matusz和Britton比較實在...
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現階段應該還是由Hammel來頂一號吧
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比較可以掌握的大概就Arrieta和Britton 剩下兩個輪值五
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個人搶orz
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我猜開季25人名單可能先三搶二?其中一個先擺長中繼?
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我希望是Hamels來頂Ace 不是Hammel...
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XD 等明年吧...
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天啊Hammel頂一號... 助金鳥好運了 QQ
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我覺得金鶯是看上Lindstrom吧 Hammel跟Guthrie比沒差多少
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喔不 我剛剛看 Guthrie絕對比Hammel優 所以要看Lindstrom有
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辦法幫這筆交易加多少分
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我覺得DD不是看上這兩個其中一個 他受訪時有說把Guthrie
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交易出去是被迫的(猜測是為了避免仲裁) 而Hammel雖然比
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Guthrie差(但也沒有差到很多) 但也許他不會封鎖自家打線
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雖然這無法解釋 但Guthrie投球時得不到隊友支援也是事實
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所以我覺得DD是想賭賭看 再加上一個中繼 不見得會比較差
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今天看到似乎還在跟條子談上原喔!
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雖然Guthrie走了 但上原如果能回來也比較能讓人安心...
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目前似乎是還在喬要給條子什麼人
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上原轉隊後表現不好 就算條子要人也要不到多好的吧...
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07/02 19:52, 6年前 , 76F
比較可以掌握的大概就A http://yaxiv.com
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