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Nash???

看板Orl-Magic (奧蘭多 魔術)作者 (leon)時間14年前 (2011/02/05 20:20), 編輯推噓30(30推 0噓 103→)
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Because Steve Nash isn't the type of player to seek a trade, it is highly unlikely he will be dealt before the Feb. 24th deadline. But the Suns have received calls from the Hawks, Magic, Blazers and Mavericks about the possibility of trading for Nash, according to sources. The Wolves and Raptors have also called about Nash's availability despite both of those teams being out of the playoff picture. "The only reason you would ever even remotely consider trading Steve is if he came to you and said, 'I think I need to move on somewhere,' " says Alvin Gentry. "That would be the only reason. But to us, making that decision to trade him, I don't see why we would even think about it. You guys can keep talking about it, but we're not going to trade him. He's playing at such a high level. Why would we? "How you gonna get value for him? Unless you're gonna go get Deron Williams or Chris Paul or somebody like that, tell me how. Why do we have to bottom out to rebuild our team? I don't see why you would want to bottom out and spend the next five years trying to get good again." "I don't see how it makes any sense for us to move him," GM Lon Babby said. "I know that people think we ought to look to the future. And we're doing that. But if you look at the history of the teams that have sort of blown it up, as the expression goes, how successful have they been in recapturing [elite status] and how long does it take? "I'm willing to put more faith in Grant Hill, Steve Nash and the players that we have than I am in a lottery ball," Babby continued. "It's easy to say blow it up, but show me the teams that have successfully done it and how long it took and how much luck was involved, because luck's involved in everything. I don't want to depend on fortuity. I'd rather depend on a two-time MVP. 有許多球對包括魔術都有向太陽尋問交易Nash的可能 當然是不太可能拉 太陽教練出來滅火 說出非拿去 CP3 DW8 之類的報價 那..我們可以拿泥神嘛....呵呵 不過要是真的換成的話 當然機會不大啦 VC 鍋貼:...... Hedo:......... 不過要是有Nash的話 魔獸不知道會多可怕 看看鍋貼 都可以變成這樣了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 123.192.248.102 ※ 編輯: y1027330 來自: 123.192.248.102 (02/05 20:31)
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02/05 20:38, , 1F
不過我怕火槍跟NASH會互卡...
02/05 20:38, 1F
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02/05 20:52, , 2F
黑啊 一定會卡啊... 然後泥神去 鍋貼跟VC又窘調
02/05 20:52, 2F
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02/05 20:57, , 3F
尼神 換 飄髮哥 好不好
02/05 20:57, 3F
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02/05 21:09, , 4F
光是你二嬸是換不到納什的，我們應該再加一個范干迪
02/05 21:09, 4F
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02/05 21:09, , 5F
另外，真的換了，要不要考慮兩隊搬家就好了?
02/05 21:09, 5F
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02/05 21:24, , 6F
基本上這個有點離譜了,不過太陽也該看清,誰會拿CP3或
02/05 21:24, 6F
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02/05 21:25, , 7F
DW換Nash....都是頂級後衛的話,人家年輕就贏了
02/05 21:25, 7F
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02/05 21:27, , 8F
所以Nash要不待到退休,不然要換同等級的說真的想太多
02/05 21:27, 8F
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02/05 21:27, , 9F
NASH真的有點老了...
02/05 21:27, 9F
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02/05 21:30, , 10F
最多換個潛力股或實力中等的,要頂級換頂級,除非一樣老XD
02/05 21:30, 10F
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02/05 21:30, , 11F
槍西換NASH
02/05 21:30, 11F
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02/05 21:51, , 12F
如果Nelson換Nash Nelson送他們用 薪水我們付 再送現金
02/05 21:51, 12F
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02/06 00:31, , 13F
現在看來當初不應該和太陽交易的
02/06 00:31, 13F
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02/06 00:34, , 14F
不交易的話 就是 泥神 VC 啊Q BASS DH
02/06 00:34, 14F
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02/06 00:35, , 15F
怎麼感覺沒有比較強 = =''
02/06 00:35, 15F
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02/06 00:35, , 16F
只能說交易完後 就沒有退路了
02/06 00:35, 16F
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02/06 00:35, , 17F
HEDO 完全不會有人要 兩千萬也是
02/06 00:35, 17F
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02/06 00:35, , 18F
ARENAS 跟 LEWIS 不管有沒有交易 都不會有人要
02/06 00:35, 18F
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02/06 00:36, , 19F
現在看來也沒有啊 問題好像更多
02/06 00:36, 19F
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02/06 00:37, , 20F
最大的問題就是後場防守啊 我覺得內線的問題還沒這麼嚴重
02/06 00:37, 20F
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02/06 00:37, , 21F
不過現在BASS受傷 問題就很嚴重了
02/06 00:37, 21F
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02/06 00:37, , 22F
光後場防守和替補C就讓人傷腦筋了
02/06 00:37, 22F
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02/06 00:37, , 23F
超賽的KP回來了 小歐本來就沒差 大歐不知道會不會打我們
02/06 00:37, 23F
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02/06 00:37, , 24F
就回來= =
02/06 00:37, 24F
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02/06 00:38, , 25F
內線問題非常嚴重 考量季後賽的話是如此
02/06 00:38, 25F
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02/06 00:38, , 26F
後場進攻重要性來說 JRICH >HEDO =ARENAS
02/06 00:38, 26F
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02/06 00:39, , 27F
偏偏HEDO 跟ARENAS交易的可能性是0 JRICH又太好用
02/06 00:39, 27F
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02/06 00:39, , 28F
固然換回來只有我們才會用的火槍兵沒錯
02/06 00:39, 28F
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02/06 00:39, , 29F
後場真的有點無解 看來真的只能拿泥神跟JJ去換好物
02/06 00:39, 29F
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02/06 00:41, , 30F
我們內線可用的就BASS 小安 跟魔獸 三隻
02/06 00:41, 30F
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02/06 00:41, , 31F
不過湖人去年不也是拜嫩 歐頓 卡授三隻
02/06 00:41, 31F
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02/06 00:42, , 32F
綠茶嬸是不錯 但已經沒有像在太陽那樣那麼順了
02/06 00:42, 32F
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02/06 00:42, , 33F
超賽 KG KP BIGBABY 不是也三隻 還是有其他替補我沒想到=
02/06 00:42, 33F
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02/06 00:43, , 34F
是沒有這麼順 但我覺得 JJ還是當第六人比較實在
02/06 00:43, 34F
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02/06 00:43, , 35F
不知道是不是奈許效應 其實綠茶嬸很多數據都下降
02/06 00:43, 35F
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02/06 00:43, , 36F
波士頓去年還有Rasheed 今年則是大小歐(小歐可以排除了)
02/06 00:43, 36F
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02/06 00:43, , 37F
對後 我都忘了= =
02/06 00:43, 37F
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02/06 00:44, , 38F
如果沒有Sheed 說不定我們就.... 你居然忘了!! XD
02/06 00:44, 38F
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02/06 00:45, , 39F
Y大我覺得這內線一排出來就是一打三 小安和BASS現在還
02/06 00:45, 39F
還有 54 則推文
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02/07 15:39, , 94F
球的人 他沒球玩 而且我們太陽小前鋒又一堆 才會這麼慘
02/07 15:39, 94F
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02/07 16:46, , 95F
對啊 樓上你也說到太陽小前鋒多 內線少 所以HEDO只能打PF
02/07 16:46, 95F
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02/07 16:47, , 96F
NASH是很黏 只是他沒黏到完全不給其他人單打
02/07 16:47, 96F
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02/07 16:50, , 97F
HILL+VC 之前的綠茶+巴西閃電 和NASH的接班人 沒單打嗎
02/07 16:50, 97F
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02/07 16:51, , 98F
NASH第一次MVP有鷹王JJ 第二次MVP有DIAW
02/07 16:51, 98F
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02/07 17:25, , 99F
JJ的情形我是不知道啦 那時候我還沒看球
02/07 17:25, 99F
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02/07 17:25, , 100F
不過綠茶當初一交易過來也是經歷過一段陣痛期
02/07 17:25, 100F
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02/07 17:26, , 101F
本來是一球在手的球隊箭頭 變成等球射手 他當初也是非
02/07 17:26, 101F
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02/07 17:27, , 102F
不習慣 不過到後來他就漸漸轉型成現在這個樣子
02/07 17:27, 102F
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02/07 17:27, , 103F
說單打也不是沒有 但是綠茶的運球真的不是說太好
02/07 17:27, 103F
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02/07 17:28, , 104F
小巴的話上場不太拿球的 他的主要任務是快攻箭頭跟空檔
02/07 17:28, 104F
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02/07 17:29, , 105F
三分球 他主控的時候就是Nash不在場上的時候 大部分就
02/07 17:29, 105F
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02/07 17:29, , 106F
單擋後切傳 不過像去年他跟我們小帥哥常常會互相輔助
02/07 17:29, 106F
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02/07 17:30, , 107F
不好意思 沒打好 舉JJ和DIAW的例是因為他們是傳球中心
02/07 17:30, 107F
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02/07 17:30, , 108F
所以小巴任務就很簡單了 就切切切跟噴三分而已
02/07 17:30, 108F
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02/07 17:31, , 109F
綠茶就不是傳球咖
02/07 17:31, 109F
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02/07 17:32, , 110F
綠茶現在打得跟在太陽時期差不多啊@@ 噴三分跟瘋狂跑
02/07 17:32, 110F
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02/07 17:32, , 111F
一開始是在說HEDO為什麼在太陽打不好的吧
02/07 17:32, 111F
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02/07 17:33, , 112F
其實Hedo在太陽後期PF比較常是Hill(尤其)跟達利在扛的
02/07 17:33, 112F
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02/07 17:33, , 113F
重點在太陽沒內線 SF超多 所以HEDO只能硬打PF
02/07 17:33, 113F
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02/07 17:35, , 114F
這樣講其實沒錯啦 不過到後來我們教練也是盡量給他打sf
02/07 17:35, 114F
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02/07 17:36, , 115F
之前有看到一篇文章 HEDO有說過它之前打不好的原因
02/07 17:36, 115F
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02/07 17:38, , 116F
他說新球隊 它的角色變成無球跑 或是定點射手
02/07 17:38, 116F
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02/07 17:38, , 117F
他說她有點適應不好 但身為職業球員 它還是會盡量去做到
02/07 17:38, 117F
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02/07 17:39, , 118F
做好
02/07 17:39, 118F
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02/07 17:39, , 119F
是的 就如樓上所說 大抵來說是這樣
02/07 17:39, 119F
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02/07 17:40, , 120F
有一幕我印象深刻 Hedo在場中撿到球 就我對他的印象他
02/07 17:40, 120F
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02/07 17:40, , 121F
HEDO速度慢 投籃又不是很準 不給他控球 真的是暴露缺點
02/07 17:40, 121F
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02/07 17:40, , 122F
應該持球推進 但是他卻停下來找Nash(還是小帥哥 忘了)
02/07 17:40, 122F
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02/07 17:41, , 123F
然後默默地跑到斜45度角等球 那波進攻就再也沒碰到球了
02/07 17:41, 123F
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02/07 17:41, , 124F
那就是我錯了...我太少看太陽隊live了
02/07 17:41, 124F
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02/07 17:43, , 125F
也不能說錯啦@__@他前期是常常硬扛大個子沒錯
02/07 17:43, 125F
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02/07 17:43, , 126F
其實我覺得很怪 兩千萬都可以扛了 他看起來兩千萬壯
02/07 17:43, 126F
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02/07 17:44, , 127F
不過兩千萬比較準 跟比較快
02/07 17:44, 127F
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02/07 17:45, , 128F
不知道耶 我覺得他扛大個子的時候都很勉強 說不定他很
02/07 17:45, 128F
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02/07 17:45, , 129F
沒力
02/07 17:45, 129F
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02/07 17:48, , 130F
懷疑2000萬真的有在扛嗎
02/07 17:48, 130F
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02/07 17:49, , 131F
所謂的虛胖嘛 哈哈
02/07 17:49, 131F
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02/07 19:06, , 132F
Lewis的低位防守比想像中的好 他問題在補位判斷很差
02/07 19:06, 132F
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02/07 19:07, , 133F
不能算鎖 可是至少不會成為DH負擔
02/07 19:07, 133F
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