Fw: [外絮] Lee<-->Afflalo? or Lee+KT <--> Melo?

看板Orl-Magic (奧蘭多 魔術)作者 (c8c8 /)時間11年前 (2014/05/21 21:40), 11年前編輯推噓13(13011)
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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1JVAGFhh ] 作者: taylorliao (Page) 看板: NBA 標題: [外絮] Lee<-->Afflalo? or Lee+KT <--> Melo? 時間: Wed May 21 21:03:07 2014 Orlando a Possible Destination for David Lee? Posted on May 20, 2014 by Marcus Thompson 奧蘭多將會是 David Lee 生涯的下一站嗎? The draft lottery went down and, for the second consecutive year, the Warriors weren’t focused on ping-pong balls. However, they might have gotten a break with how the draft lottery turned out. Maybe. 選秀結果在今天也塵埃落定了,同時對勇士而言也連續兩年,沒有把重心放在小乒乓球上, 但是在今天結果出爐後,他們也可以鬆一口氣了,或許吧。 The Warriors have tried to move David Lee in the past. But it needed to be a no-brainer in order for them to pull the trigger. But now, per a couple league sources, the Warriors have lowered the bar realizing they’ve got to come off that contract so they can go after a co-star for Stephen Curry. Plus, with Steve Kerr acknowledging he wants a stretch-four, which Lee is not, the writing is really on the wall for Lee. 勇士在過去也嘗試交易 David Lee,但這需要一個用膝蓋想就覺得賺的報價,來讓他們著 手進行交易。但是根據幾則聯盟的消息,勇士方面也因為必須處理掉 Lee 的千萬合約之後 ,他們才能開始物色一個明星球員給 Stephen Curry 搭檔而不得不把交易門檻調低,再加 上,Steve Kerr也清楚表明他要的是一個 Stretch Four (投射+運球+傳導能力佳的四號位) 而 David Lee 不是,看來 Lee 真的不太妙了。 I’ve been told to watch out for Orlando as a potential trade partner for Golden State. They have cap space and after a second consecutive year finishing way down in the Eastern Conference standings, they need to make a move. They might be a taker for David Lee for the same reasons the Warriors were back in 2010: they need someone who can produce reliably and usher the franchise into respectability. Marcus Thompson(本篇記者)表示:「有人跟我說奧蘭多將會是金州談交易案潛在的交易對 像,他們薪資空間夠,而且也已經連續兩年在東區成績都在末段班徘迴,他們也需要重組。 奧蘭多或許會成為 David Lee 的下一個買家就跟當時勇士在2010年買了 Lee 的理由一樣: 因為他們需要一個產出穩定,而且又能幫助魔術隊成為不容小覷的隊伍。」 How did the draft lottery help? The Magic landed at No. 4. 那麼選秀小乒乓球有給力嗎? 魔術最終拿到了第四順位 That’s out of the range of the no-brainers: Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker and Joel Embid. If those are the top 3, as projected by the renown DraftEXpress, that leaves Orlando probably in play for a guard. Oklahoma State point guard Marcus Smart will be on the board. So will Australian prodigy Dante Exum. Of course, Kentucky’s Julius Randle, Arizona’s Aaron Gordon and Indiana’s Noah Vonieh are on the board. But if the Magic go with a perimeter player, that could be good for the Warriors for two reasons. 第四順位就不是個可以避著眼睛亂選就好的位置了:因為 Andrew Wiggins、Jabari Parker 和 Joel Embid 如果上述這些人,根據知名的 DraftEXpree的預測都會在前三選完就不見的 話,那奧蘭多可能會選個後衛。來自奧克拉荷馬州的控球後衛 Marcus Smart 就在口袋名單 中、還有來自澳洲的天才球員 Dante Exum 也是、當然也不能忘了來自肯塔基的 Julius Randle、亞利桑那的 Aaron Gordon、印第安那的 Noah Vonieh 都是很好的人選。但如果最 終魔術選的不是內線型球員的話,那對勇士來說就有兩個很好的理由。 1. Orlando will still have a need for a proven veteran in David Lee who knows what it takes to change the culture of a locker room and make a team competitive. 1. 奧蘭多一樣得需要一個已經打出身手、有經驗且知道怎麼建立休息是文化,又能幫助球 隊變得更有競爭力的 David Lee。 2. Aaron Afflalo could be expendable. Drafting a guard will give the Magic its frontcourt of the future: the rookie it drafts plus last year’s first-rounder Victor Oladipo. 2. Aaron Afflalo 如此一來就變得可有可無了。如果選擇了後衛那麼就是用前場的未來 去換後場,再加上去年首輪選進的 Victor Oladipo 魔術建軍將以後場為主。 As for Lee to Orlando, Glen Davis started 43 games for the Magic before being bought out and signing with the Clippers, where he became the eighth man. And when he left, Tobias Harris got several starts at PF. That’s how much the Magic could use Lee. He and Nikola Vucevic wouldn’t be a great defensive pair. But a perimeter trio of Smart/Oladipo/Moe Harkless should be able to do some things on the defensive end. 對奧蘭多而言,Glen Davis 去年在被交易到快艇當第8人之前,為魔術先發了43場比賽, 在大寶貝離開後,Tobias Harris 有時也客串了先發大前鋒的位置,所以魔術找來 Lee 也 算派得上用場,雖然 David Lee + Nikola Vucevic 不會是一對在防守端很好的組合,但是 外圍如果是 Smart + Oladipo + Moe Harkless的話應該可以彌補防守上的問題。 Lee could in essence be a one-year rental for the Magic. After next season, he becomes a chunky expiring contract Orlando could use. At most, two years of that $15M+ salary is probably something Orlando would swallow if it means it can book 18 and 10 every night. Lee 對魔術在實質上的意義可能可以當作「租用一年」的方法來用,再過了一季之後, 他的到期合約對魔術而言也很好操作。最壞情況也不過就是2年都要付超過15M給他,然後 換來每個晚上 18pts + 10rebs的表現。 Afflalo factors in if the Warriors have to move Klay Thompson. If Minnesota doesn’t want Lee and the Warriors have to put together a package centered on Thompson (say Thompson, Barnes and Speights), the Warriors could be fine with that if they can send Lee to Orlando and come away with Afflalo to replace Thompson. If Love goes elsewhere, which is likely, the Warriors could package Lee and Thompson to get someone like Carmelo Anthony, then try to pull off a separate deal to get Afflalo. He plays both ends and he can shoot the 3. Plus, Love and GM Bob Myers would welcome another Bruin to the mix. Afflalo 這支要不要出就看勇士那邊是不是會動到 Klay Thompson 了。如果明尼蘇達不要 拿 Lee 反而要勇士一定要出到 Klay Thompson 當作主菜來談的話(假設是 Thompson 、 Barnes 和 Speights),勇士也可以把 Lee 送到魔術換 Afflalo 去頂替 Thompson 的缺, 如果 Love 最後不是去金州,目前看來好像也是這樣,那麼勇士可以把弄一包 David Lee + Klay Thompson 去換像是 Carmelo Anthony,然後再試試看其他方案去換 Afflalo。他攻守 兩端都行又可以投3分,而且 Love 跟勇士GM Bob Myers 一定會歡迎另一個家鄉球員回到 加州。 Moving Lee’s contract is a tough one. But a few teams may be willing to try him out for one year because he can still play and Lee has proven he can help lift a bad team. 要處理掉 Lee 的合約不是件容易的事。但還有一些球隊或許會願意在他身上試個一年, 因為他還可以打而且 Lee 也證明過他可以幫助實力較弱的球隊變好。 Of course, it’s early and the mock will shift like crazy between now and draft day. By the end of it, Orlando could end up with Parker or Randle and have its power forward of the future. The Magic could grab a PF at No. 12 but still could want Lee for the interim while Gordon or whoever develops. 當然一切都還言之尚早,而且模擬選秀的預測從現在開始,到選秀會當天一定會不斷改變, 最後奧蘭多搞不好會選到 Parker 或是 Randle 把未來的大前鋒定下來。 魔術也可以在第 12順位時抓一隻大前鋒,但還是有可能會想要 Lee 頂上 Aaron Gordon 或是其他人還在成 長的過渡期。 狀況1????????? Warriors Knicks Klay Thompson Carmelo Anthony David Lee <---> 狀況2: Warriors Magic David Lee <---> Arron Afflalo 來源網址: http://ppt.cc/8IAz -- Dwight Howard: "My soul, everything I have is in Orlando. I just can't leave it behind." -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 111.240.243.218 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1400677391.A.AEB.html ※ 編輯: taylorliao (111.240.243.218), 05/21/2014 21:04:11

05/21 21:05, , 1F
1500萬
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AI表示:
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05/21 21:07, , 3F
ai也會被清掉吧
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05/21 21:08, , 4F
投射運球傳導能力佳的四號~有哪幾人這些能力比李強??
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05/21 21:08, , 5F
總覺得這篇想凹人,理由很牽強的扯關係
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05/21 21:09, , 6F
Klay Thompson+David Lee就想換Melo 是搶劫吧
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05/21 21:11, , 7F
Lee2年30m 他又31了 不好交易喔
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05/21 21:12, , 8F
LEE傳球 跟投射 不錯吧!!!
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05/21 21:12, , 9F
Melo會選留在大城市吧
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05/21 21:13, , 10F
LEE視野明明就還不差,看看公主留勇士的時候
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05/21 21:15, , 11F
勇士隊也是大城市阿
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05/21 21:17, , 12F
覺得勇士不該交易耶 全員健康就很強了
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05/21 21:18, , 13F
兩個小咖換MELO????未免太天真吧 再加CURRY還勉強可
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05/21 21:20, , 14F
投射和傳導不就是Lee的強項嗎?換阿福會跟KT撞位吧
05/21 21:20, 14F
poweregg:轉錄至看板 G-S-WARRIORS 05/21 21:24

05/21 21:25, , 15F
借轉感恩
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05/21 21:26, , 16F
Melo 今年的表現實在不是一個Key word
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05/21 21:28, , 17F
Lee這麼廉價
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05/21 21:30, , 18F
如果Lee都還不符合需求 在這之上 都不是勇士能拿到的
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05/21 21:31, , 19F
MELO沒有打4號的體力,他需要能提供他打3號的隊伍(?
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除非勇士要出血...
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05/21 21:37, , 21F
怎麼看這樣換勇士也不會比較強..提升替補比較實際..
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05/21 21:38, , 22F
內線替補又痛又軟..
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借轉魔術謝謝
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※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: c8c812345678 (111.242.204.11), 05/21/2014 21:40:46

05/21 22:27, , 25F
打槍!貼五隻首輪籤再來談
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模口零!!!!
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0%
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想太多 標準自爽
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05/21 22:53, , 29F
Lee確實是不錯 但怎麼看都不是長遠計畫裡面的一部分= =
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為了虛無飄渺的建立勝利文化 弄一個貴鬆鬆的打工仔....
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我們是東區耶你在開我玩笑嗎!
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海神是聰明人!!別妄想
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Lee只換AA 合約長度一樣 每年多800m 只有我覺得不賴
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照超級選秀日裡面演的 希望海神能有機會搶劫
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15/16年是VV和Harris換約年 魔術薪資空間也是夠大
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東區潘仔請找尼克76怎麼會找上我們呢?
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真的要維持平盤戰績 續留大寶貝就好哪還要LEE??
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除非有恰當的配套和後續交易 不然又弄一個打工PF在前鋒海
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怎麼想都不會是長遠的作法
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白人之光是不錯 可是不是魔術需要的吧.....
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如果真這樣換 變成選秀時以後場為主?
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勇士不會以為魔術GM還是囧tis吧
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05/22 08:27, , 43F
自嗨成份居多 好不容易擺脫薪資地獄 何必再自掘墳墓
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05/22 17:56, , 44F
不知道大家對 Zach LaVine 有什麼看法
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如果#4不選Exum, 12順位也許可以考慮他?
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05/22 18:09, , 46F
LaVine不要
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體能超好的白人,看名字猜是俄羅斯人嗎?
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在大學就不是先發了,可能要養一段時間…
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