[外電] 為什麼 Turner不再是溜馬關注"焦點/中鋒"

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付費文章.. 分享過來並翻譯給板友看, 喜歡的可以去訂閱 Caitlin Cooper 最專業的女性溜馬分析師 - 喜歡她的文章和分析的話請訂閱她支持她原文 : https://tinyurl.com/ycxvyb2s 請支持溜馬寫手 Please subscribe to support her Why Myles Turner is no longer the "center" of attention July 1 On losing a franchise fixture while searching for a potentially better long-term fix By: Caitlin Cooper | @C2_Cooper 為什麼 Myles Turner 不再是溜馬關注的"焦點/中鋒" 7月1日當球隊失去一位象徵性球員，卻也在尋找更長遠的補強方案作者：Caitlin Cooper | @C2_Cooper After advancing to the NBA Finals with the team that drafted him 11th overall in 2015, Myles Turner is no longer the "center" of attention in Indiana. According to ESPN's Shams Charania, the starting big man, who was seemingly always the subject of trade rumors while also outlasting an offer sheet to another center, has reached agreement on a four-year, $107 million contract with the Milwaukee Bucks, bringing an abrupt close to his 10-year tenure with the Indiana Pacers. 2015年以第11順位被選中、今年隨隊打進總冠軍賽的 Myles Turner，現在已不再是印第安那的焦點中鋒了。根據 ESPN 的 Shams Charania 報導，這位多年來總在交易謠言中起伏、甚至曾挺過其他中鋒的報價的先發長人，已與密爾瓦基公鹿簽下一紙4年1億700萬美元的合約，正式結束他在印第安那溜馬的10年旅程。 It's possible the calculus changed for both sides, both in terms of dollar and cents as well as overall approach, in the wake of Tyrese Haliburton's injury. 在 Tyrese Haliburton 受傷之後，雙方在薪資結構與整體規劃上可能都重新計算過後做出了改變。 There's no denying the impact that Haliburton has made on Turner's game. Last season, Turner led the Pacers in threes launched from the top of the key, with a total of 279 attempts, including the playoffs. When Haliburton was on the floor, Turner shot 40.5 percent on 244 attempts. When Haliburton was off the floor, he shot 22.9 percent on just 35 attempts. 不可否認，Haliburton 對 Turner 的比賽表現產生了極大影響。上季，Turner 是全隊在弧頂三分出手最多的球員，共投出279球（含季後賽）。Haliburton 在場時，Turner 三分命中率高達40.5%（244次出手）；Haliburton 不在場時，他只出手35次，命中率僅 22.9%。 Likewise, it's certainly telling of Haliburton's pick-and-roll wizardry that the Pacers scored just 0.945 points per chance with Turner as the screener prior to trading for Haliburton, compared to 1.040 points per chance since Haliburton's arrival. 這也說明了 Haliburton 在擋拆上的魔法：在他來到之前，溜馬每次以 Turner 為掩護者的擋拆平均僅得0.945分，而他加入後則提高到1.040分。 Just as he made and took more threes from his sweet spot with Haliburton on the floor, Turner also started moving toward the basket more often once Haliburton became the team's starting point guard, as he rolled on 65.7 percent of his picks in the Haliburton-era, compared to just 55.2 percent over the period B.H. (Before Haliburton). 除了在 Haliburton 上場時 Turner 更常於擅長區域出手三分，他也更積極切向籃下。 Haliburton 擔任先發控衛後，Turner 在掩護後切入比例達65.7%，而在 Haliburton 加盟前僅為55.2%。 Notably, during the second round of the playoffs, Andrew Nembhard and Myles Turner led the league in pick-and-roll efficiency, tallying 1.333 points per direct chance, among the 18 pick-and-roll duos who were involved in at least 30 screening actions. 值得注意的是，在季後賽第二輪中，Andrew Nembhard 與 Myles Turner 是聯盟所有至少 30次擋拆組合中效率最高的組合，平均每回合得分高達1.333分。 Of course, while Nembhard certainly deserves credit for the guile he displays as a pick-and-roll creator, which he will now likely get to showcase more often as the team's soon-to-be starting point guard, it begs pointing out that part of the reason why that combination stood out to such a degree in that series was because the Cavs were deliberately cutting out Haliburton. 當然，Nembhard 的擋拆創造力值得肯定，而他也很可能在成為新任先發控衛後獲得更多機會。但必須指出的是，這對組合表現亮眼的部分原因是騎士刻意排除 Haliburton 的影響。 Even when Haliburton doesn't touch the ball, he still has a hand in opening up elbow room for his teammates to play four-on-four, especially when Nembhard is drawing the weaker defensive assignments. 即使 Haliburton 沒有持球，他仍能藉由牽制開啟肘區空間，讓隊友打出四打四的局面，特別是在 Nembhard 對位的是防守較弱的球員時。 https://imgur.com/a/Zb39r2Q In that regard, there likely would've been an adjustment period next season for the Nembhard-Turner pairing, when Nembhard is the lead guard being guarded by top defenders while also guarding top guards (that's a lot!). Still, if the Pacers had reached agreement with Turner on the same deal that was offered by Milwaukee, then regardless of how everything meshed in the interim and the salary cap ramifications, the intention likely still would've been for him to team up with Haliburton in the long-term. 從這個角度來看，Nembhard 和 Turner 搭配下季很可能需要一段磨合期，因為 Nembhard 不只要面對對方的頂尖防守者，還得自己去守對方主力後衛（這壓力很大！）。儘管如此，如果溜馬當初也開出和公鹿一樣的合約，那麼不論過渡期的配合如何、或是薪資空間的壓力為何，球隊的長期規劃應該還是希望他與 Haliburton 並肩作戰。 To that point, while it's obvious how Haliburton enhances Turner, it hasn't always been as clear how Turner enhances Haliburton -- at least on offense and particularly in the later rounds of the playoffs the last two seasons. 說到這裡，雖然 Haliburton 如何讓 Turner 更好這點很明顯，但 Turner 如何讓 Haliburton 更好，尤其是在進攻端、以及近兩季的季後賽後段，這點就不那麼清楚了。 During the Finals, although Turner certainly had some standout defensive possessions against Chet Holmgren, he struggled mightily to create advantages with hand-offs when the need was there to relieve OKC's pressure against Haliburton by starting the star guard away from the ball to open attacking lanes into the paint with get actions. 在總冠軍賽中，雖然 Turner 確實對 Chet Holmgren 有幾個漂亮的防守回合，但當需要透過無球手遞手戰術替 Haliburton 緩解 OKC 的壓迫、防守打開禁區路徑時，Turner 在遞手戰術創造優勢上表現十分掙扎。 This should've been a foul on Lu Dort, but the reason why Lu Dort was in position to foul Haliburton was because Turner so rarely adjusts his screen with a two-foot lateral hop in order to actually stick the defender after getting off the ball. 這球應該是 Lu Dort 犯規，但他之所以能及時干擾 Haliburton，是因為 Turner 很少利用「雙腳橫跳」方式修正掩護角度來真正卡住防守者。 https://imgur.com/a/KDk4jLM In the regular season, with how often Haliburton rejects screens, that type of craft may not be as pivotal in terms of the team’s literal ability to pivot, but it was glaring against a defense as unpredictable, handsy, and willing to load up at the blocks and elbows as that of OKC, which is to say nothing of the assist that might be needed for the star guard post-injury. 在例行賽時，由於 Haliburton 經常拒絕掩護，這類技巧或許沒那麼關鍵。但面對像 OKC 這種防守風格飄忽、手腳頻繁、且會在肘區與底線堆疊人牆的防守時，這種細節的缺乏就變得特別明顯，尤其現在球星後衛還帶著傷勢，更需要隊友給予更多協助。 Moreover, similar to last season in the Eastern Conference Finals against the Celtics, when he too often devolved to auto-pilot post moves against Derrick White and seemed unsure of where to insert himself while being guarded by Jayson Tatum, he didn't exactly always recognize and capitalize on mismatches and switches within the flow of the offense against the Thunder, either. 此外，就像上季對塞爾提克的東區冠軍賽一樣，Turner 常常陷入對 Derrick White 的無意識低位單打，面對 Jayson Tatum 的防守時又顯得找不到自己在進攻中的定位。這季面對雷霆時，他同樣沒有好好識別並利用錯位與換防。 Here, what was a prime opportunity for a quick swim move in front of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander at the rim... 這裡，面對 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 在籃下原本是一個絕佳的快速轉身機會... https://imgur.com/a/EULskQL ... turned into a contested, one-dribble three at the top of the key. ...結果卻變成弧頂一個運球後的高難度三分出手。 https://imgur.com/a/NT1BI69 Granted, that's his sweet spot and Turner, per Rick Carlisle, was dealing with an illness during this series, but he underperformed his expected effective field-goal percentage from three (52.65%) by 20.5 percent against OKC (32.14), with 50 percent of his attempts being heavily contested, compared to 40.9 percent during the entirety of the playoff run. 誠然，那是他擅長的出手點，而且根據主帥 Rick Carlisle 表示，Turner 該系列賽身體不適，但他對 OKC 的三分有效命中率（32.14%）比預期（52.65%）低了整整20.5個百分點，其中有高達50%的出手是受到強力干擾，遠高於整個季後賽期間的40.9%。 At times, that's because easier opportunities inside, which weren't necessarily easier for him, were shirked in favor of tougher relocations. Meanwhile, a lower percentage of Haliburton's touches featured a paint touch in that series with Turner on the floor (7.91 percent) than off (8.94 percent). 有時是因為 Turner 放棄了相對容易（但對他而言也未必容易）的禁區進攻機會，選擇難度更高的外圍出手。另一方面，Haliburton 在 Turner 在場時觸球後進入禁區的比例（ 7.91%）比 Turner 不在場時（8.94%）還低。 Over the Eastern Conference Finals and Finals combined, Turner finished with twice as many turnovers (26) as made threes (13), with the Knicks and Thunder pulling down 115 offensive rebounds when he was on the floor, compared to just 82 for the Pacers. 從東區冠軍賽到總冠軍賽整體來看，Turner 發生的失誤（26次）是他投進的三分球（13 球）兩倍。當他在場上時，尼克與雷霆合計抓下115個進攻籃板，而溜馬僅抓下82個。 To put those numbers into further context while adjusting for the possibility of discrepancies in makes and misses, New York and Oklahoma City combined to post higher offensive rebound rates from both two-point and three-point range when he was on the floor than what was the case for the Pacers. 進一步調整命中與失手的變數後，尼克與雷霆在 Turner 在場時，無論是兩分球還是三分球的進攻籃板率都比溜馬來得更高。 New York + Oklahoma City: 2PT OREB% - 35.75%; 3PT OREB% - 33.09% Indiana: 2PT OREB% - 27.78%; 3PT OREB% - 23.68% 尼克 + 雷霆：二分球進攻籃板率 - 35.75%；三分球進攻籃板率 - 33.09% 溜馬：二分球進攻籃板率 - 27.78%；三分球進攻籃板率 - 23.68% As the saying goes, more than ever, the basketball is the most important part of basketball. 正如那句話所說——「在這個時代，籃球比以往任何時候都更是『搶籃板』的遊戲。」 There was a similar trend in last season's Eastern Conference Finals, when he also finished with more turnovers (17) than made threes (7), while leading the team in total turnovers -- as a center. 這樣的情況在去年東區冠軍賽也曾上演——當時他投進的三分球（7球）也少於他的失誤數（17次），而且作為中鋒，他是全隊失誤最多的球員。 That said, even when his shot isn't falling, his ability to shoot allowed the team to shape-shift into different alignments than what's possible with Isaiah Jackson, who was extended a qualifying offer to become a restricted free agent, or Tony Bradley, who had his $2.9 million, non-guaranteed option picked up. 儘管如此，即使 Turner 手感冰冷，他的投射能力仍然讓球隊陣型有更多變化選擇，是 Isaiah Jackson（已被發出延伸合格報價）或 Tony Bradley（球隊執行了他290萬美元的非保障選項）無法提供的。 There's a difference when a guard is the player in the dunker spot, thereby opening a wider entry point on the perimeter while forcing another guard to protect the rim. 當禁區「沉底位」（dunker spot）是由後衛站位時，外圍切入的角度會更寬，並且會迫使對手的後衛去護框，這會產生防守錯位。 https://imgur.com/a/SRyjA5N Than when a big is parked in that spot, putting a big in position to force kick-outs. 但如果是中鋒或大個子卡在那個位置，通常會迫使進攻球員只能將球傳出來，無法有效攻框。 https://imgur.com/a/Evsrnyv Turner's skill-set enables that type of flexibility and losing him for nothing isn't exactly ideal asset management, but the same can now also be said of what options the Pacers have moving forward. Turner 的技能組合確實帶來這種戰術上的彈性，白白失去他在資產管理上當然不是最理想的，但溜馬未來的選項也同樣充滿不確定性。 After advancing to the NBA Finals and in the wake of losing Tyrese Haliburton (likely) for the next year, Turner is no longer a franchise fixture and if (emphasis on "if") that decision was based solely on saving ownership money, well, that would be a giant bummer. 在剛打進總冠軍賽、又可能失去 Haliburton 一整年的情況下，Turner 已經不再是球隊的基石人物。如果（強調是如果）球隊放走他的理由只是為了省老闆的錢，那真的太令人失望了。 However, as was the case throughout nearly the entirety of his tenure, as trade rumors swirled and other centers usurped him at starting five or were signed to offer sheets, there was reason to think the Pacers needed to continue keeping an open mind with regard to other potential long-term fixes -- especially based on his performance in the later rounds of the playoffs the last two seasons. 然而，正如他過去幾乎整段溜馬生涯所經歷的那樣——交易流言不斷，其他中鋒搶走先發位置或拿到報價單——也合理讓人認為，球隊應該一直保持開放態度，尋找其他可能的長期解決方案，特別是根據他近兩季季後賽後段的表現。 It's unfortunate that an Achilles injury likely pointed to the beginning of the end for Turner in Indiana, but there's an opportunity for the Pacers to take a bigger step forward later by taking a step back now, with a change at center perhaps marking the end of a new beginning. 遺憾的是，這次的阿基里斯腱傷勢，或許成了 Turner 在印第安那旅程的轉捩點。但現在的退步也許會成為未來的一大進步，而中鋒位置的改變，也可能標誌著一段新篇章的落幕與開始。 ---- 付費文章.. 分享過來並翻譯給板友看, 喜歡的可以去訂閱 Caitlin Cooper 最專業的女性溜馬分析師 - 喜歡她的文章和分析的話請訂閱她支持她原文 : https://tinyurl.com/ycxvyb2s 請支持溜馬寫手 Please subscribe to support her -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 68.208.88.86 (美國) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PACERS/M.1751947914.A.98F.html ※ 編輯: PiGFAcE (68.208.88.86 美國), 07/08/2025 12:12:34