[新聞] 紅襪是時候該決定XB是否還要待在SS

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新聞連結:https://reurl.cc/vg53QL Unless you're Derek Jeter or Barry Larkin, nearly every great offensive shorts top of the last 50 years eventually ends up somewhere else. Robin Yount began his career as an MVP shortstop and ended it as an MVP center fielder. A little more than a year after breaking Lou Gehrig's consecutive-ga mes record, Cal Ripken shifted to third base. Nomar Garciaparra made his final All-Star team as a first baseman. Alex Rodriguez transitioned from short to t hird to DH to exile. The two notable exceptions of this generation -- Hall of Famers Larkin and Jet er -- clearly overstayed their respective welcomes in the middle of the diamon d. To the extent that Jeter, technically a five-time Gold Glover, was ever a g ood fielder, those skills had permanently abandoned him when he played 130 gam es at short as a 40-year-old in 2014 and cost the Yankees a staggering 28 runs , per Baseball Info Solutions. Larkin was a less extreme negative during his f inal season, also at age 40, in 2004 with the Reds. Tomase: Red Sox still in good shape in tight Wild Card race You can probably see where this is headed. It brings me no joy to say it, but if the Red Sox aren't urgently contemplating what's next for All-Star shortsto p Xander Bogaerts, they're not doing their jobs. Just a couple of weeks shy of his 29th birthday, Bogaerts remains an elite off ensive force, a .300-.500.-900 superstar with 30-homer power, near-total plate coverage (save for the occasional slider away), and a penchant for delivering in big moments. He has been described so many times as the heart and soul of the Red Sox that the phrase sounds rote, but it's true. Whereas many of Boston's stars start sc anning for exits as soon as free agency beckons, Bogaerts not only accepted le ss money to stay, he then delivered. He owns two World Series rings since debuting in 2013 and if next year's opt-o ut doesn't get in the way, he'll anchor the next contending Red Sox team, too. He was built to play here, he's homegrown, and with a little luck, he may nev er don another uniform. All of that praise established, here comes the sucker punch: He's a liability at a primary defensive position. And the Red Sox must design a way forward. Coming up short Bogaerts' rank among 35 shortstops in outs above average (Baseball Savant) 34th Variation Single That they can't play defense in 2021 has been long established. The latest ble mish came Monday night, when Kyle Schwarber, playing out of position at first base, booted a routine two-out grounder that set up the decisive three-run hom er in a 5-4 loss to the Mariners. You want bad defense, step right up to the buffet. Rafael Devers made every Ap ril groundball an adventure. During his four-month slump before catching fire in August, first baseman Bobby Dalbec fielded as poorly as he swung. The arriv al of Schwarber and the hammer of COVID forced manager Alex Cora to reconfigur e the outfield in ways that proved murderous defensively, because any alignmen t other than Alex Verdugo in left, Kik? Hern嫕dez in center, and Hunter Renfro e in right will cost the team runs. Overlooked through all of the defensive struggles, however, is Bogaerts, maybe because he's hitting .300 with 21 bombs, including one during Monday's futile comeback. Or maybe it's because he's popular and we'd rather avert our eyes. Of 23 shortstops to play at least 800 innings this season, Bogaerts ranks 19th in defensive runs saved at minus-five, per Fangraphs. The advanced metrics at Baseball Savant are even harsher, putting him 34th out of 35 shortstops in ou ts above average at minus-nine, 27 runs behind leader Nick Ahmed of the Diamon dbacks. The problem isn't errors. Bogaerts is sure-handed and has only made eight of t hem. It's range. While Bogaerts converted a highlight-reel play up the middle over the weekend from his knees vs. the White Sox, ask yourself this: When did he last wow you from the hole? Like Garciaparra at roughly the same age, the 6-foot-2 Bogaerts doesn't cover a lot of ground, particularly to his right. That's part of the reason Red Sox pitchers have allowed a league-worst .324 batting average on balls in play, ab out 35 points worse than average. Tomase: Schwarber's bat creates pressing defensive question for Sox Needless to say, every ball not converted into an out is another chance at a r un, as the Red Sox have learned with disturbing frequency. Their defensive issues are what they are and there's no way to fix them now. I f they're fortunate enough to reach the playoffs, their stay will almost certa inly be short, because teams that can't field can't last in the postseason. The question is the future. Bogaerts played third as a rookie in order to crac k the lineup, but when the Red Sox tried to move him back there midway through 2014 to make room for Stephen Drew, it did a number on him psychologically. H e plays with pride and he considers himself a shortstop. Full stop. If Chaim Bloom and Cora want to broach a position change, they'll have to do s o delicately, particularly as he enters what is effectively a contract year. T he good news is Bogaerts' bat plays anywhere. If management wanted to radicall y realign the infield, Bogaerts could move to third and Devers to first. Anoth er possibility would be going the Marcus Semien route and shifting to second b ase, a move that will earn the former A's shortstop MVP votes with the Blue Ja ys. What's clear to anyone paying attention is that for all his leadership, charac ter, and offensive greatness, Bogaerts' days as an everyday shortstop need to end sooner than later if the Red Sox want to remake their infield defense. There's certainly no shame in it. It's a fate reserved for virtually all elite shortstops. Some just get there a little sooner than others. 重點摘要: 1.近50年來攻擊型SS明星選手只有Jeter跟Barry Larkin一直待在SS到退休 2.XB今年防守進階數據很慘,跟防守第一名的SS的DRS比較起來差了整整27分之多 3.XB問題不在失誤,而是他的防守範圍真的太小 4.紅襪本季投手的BABIP高達.323聯盟第一(第二金鳥.307)投手真的受防守拖累不少 5.如果轉換守位,可以讓XB守三壘Devers移往一壘,或者是循Semien模式移往二壘。 紅襪真的該認真思考XB的轉守位問題了 然後今年投手群的表現真的沒有帳面數據上這麼差 Nathan Eovaldi:ERA3.52/FIP2.78 E-Rod:ERA5.00/FIP3.46 Nick Pivetta:ERA4.49/FIP4.32 Garret Richards:ERA4.68/FIP4.72 Martin Perez:ERA4.88/FIP4.86 E-ROD本季BABIP高達.358 讓他ERA腫到生涯最高的5 不然他FIP3.46甚至生涯最佳 xERA也只有3.67 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 39.9.188.33 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/RedSox/M.1631693030.A.1C0.html

09/15 16:11, 2年前 , 1F
二壘吧,Dalbec還是可以期待一下
09/15 16:11, 1F

09/15 16:18, 2年前 , 2F
Devers的手套也很破,跟Bobby.D對調?
09/15 16:18, 2F

09/15 17:10, 2年前 , 3F
坐等Marcelo
09/15 17:10, 3F

09/15 17:23, 2年前 , 4F
印象中是呆佛比XB手套更破,不知實際是怎麼樣
09/15 17:23, 4F
實際上Devers守備的確更破 所以才會想說讓XB移到三壘Devers去一壘 然後其實XB基本的防守功不錯 只是範圍以SS來說真的太小了 ※ 編輯: jeff1013 (39.9.188.33 臺灣), 09/15/2021 17:29:18 ※ 編輯: jeff1013 (39.9.188.33 臺灣), 09/15/2021 17:31:17 ※ 編輯: jeff1013 (39.9.188.33 臺灣), 09/15/2021 17:55:42

09/15 17:51, 2年前 , 5F
問題在他本人的意願,畢竟他明年算合約年
09/15 17:51, 5F

09/15 17:52, 2年前 , 6F
他以前有短時間守過三壘,守的比游擊還爛
09/15 17:52, 6F
這個的確也是問題點 ※ 編輯: jeff1013 (39.9.188.33 臺灣), 09/15/2021 17:56:49

09/15 18:31, 2年前 , 7F
我是覺得還好,現在佈陣頻繁範圍小至少比手套破洞好
09/15 18:31, 7F

09/15 18:32, 2年前 , 8F
問題是三游都是洞才特別傷,呆佛移到一壘看看吧
09/15 18:32, 8F

09/15 18:50, 2年前 , 9F
留不留的住說不定都還不知道....1B如果小胖去守那2B試試
09/15 18:50, 9F

09/15 18:50, 2年前 , 10F
看吧
09/15 18:50, 10F

09/15 18:51, 2年前 , 11F
Devers的守備不知道怎麼回事,從出道到現在一直都不好
09/15 18:51, 11F

09/15 18:51, 2年前 , 12F
果然是老爹的接班人.....
09/15 18:51, 12F

09/15 18:55, 2年前 , 13F
學小V葛瘦身看會不會比較好
09/15 18:55, 13F

09/15 18:56, 2年前 , 14F
再沒改善要不要留都是問題
09/15 18:56, 14F

09/15 18:57, 2年前 , 15F
畢竟BobbyD,Casas, Jordan都是守角落的
09/15 18:57, 15F

09/15 19:02, 2年前 , 16F
三游砲是紅襪與他隊相比最大優勢,攻>守我覺得ok
09/15 19:02, 16F

09/15 19:05, 2年前 , 17F
火力極大化勢必有所取捨,其他守位才有補強空間
09/15 19:05, 17F

09/15 19:45, 2年前 , 18F
別擔心Casas跟Dalbec 在內野沒位置看誰可以守綠色怪物
09/15 19:45, 18F

09/15 19:45, 2年前 , 19F
丟過去就好
09/15 19:45, 19F

09/15 20:38, 2年前 , 20F
守備不好會讓投手心態崩潰阿!投手每球都怕被打進場內就
09/15 20:38, 20F

09/15 20:38, 2年前 , 21F
糟了
09/15 20:38, 21F

09/15 20:39, 2年前 , 22F
手機排版不好。守備不好怕投手心
09/15 20:39, 22F

09/15 20:39, 2年前 , 23F
態崩掉,怕被打進場內
09/15 20:39, 23F

09/15 20:48, 2年前 , 24F
刀背守備有很差嗎?我看的比賽基本覺得還OK阿
09/15 20:48, 24F
https://i.imgur.com/jCzm5Yi.jpg
Dalbec今年的守備真的不怎麼好 不過還可以再觀察 ※ 編輯: jeff1013 (39.9.188.33 臺灣), 09/15/2021 20:54:54

09/15 20:54, 2年前 , 25F
看BobbyD守三壘 舒服多了
09/15 20:54, 25F

09/15 21:16, 2年前 , 26F
他們的火力可以cover阿 不要整隊都破洞就好
09/15 21:16, 26F

09/15 21:16, 2年前 , 27F
不對 現在好像就是
09/15 21:16, 27F

09/15 21:19, 2年前 , 28F
整個內野還真找不到一個守備稱得上優良的
09/15 21:19, 28F

09/15 21:28, 2年前 , 29F
有啦,Kike守二壘的話,不過這樣外野也兩個洞QQ
09/15 21:28, 29F

09/15 23:34, 2年前 , 30F
看oaa的話,Kike守二壘也不好
09/15 23:34, 30F

09/15 23:34, 2年前 , 31F
一三壘跟游擊都是全聯盟墊底
09/15 23:34, 31F

09/15 23:35, 2年前 , 32F
現在流行的是全能型球員,靠棒子cover手套的時代已
09/15 23:35, 32F

09/15 23:35, 2年前 , 33F
經過去了
09/15 23:35, 33F

09/16 11:37, 2年前 , 34F
我覺得不要移比較好,別忘了xb的出現才補了10年的遊游擊
09/16 11:37, 34F

09/16 11:37, 2年前 , 35F
09/16 11:37, 35F

09/16 11:37, 2年前 , 36F
一三壘的問題可以去自由市場找答案,好的游擊都會被母隊
09/16 11:37, 36F

09/16 11:37, 2年前 , 37F
綁死不會放出來
09/16 11:37, 37F

09/16 19:56, 2年前 , 38F
拜託不要移 紅襪ss 已經黑暗十年了
09/16 19:56, 38F

09/16 20:43, 2年前 , 39F
看看小鷹俠守備有無回來~~不然也是個解~
09/16 20:43, 39F

09/17 06:35, 2年前 , 40F
希望他能成為紅襪的基特不要跟木屐一樣跑掉了
09/17 06:35, 40F

09/17 07:51, 2年前 , 41F
應該是會留,他跟mookie不一樣
09/17 07:51, 41F

09/17 07:51, 2年前 , 42F
只是球團不要開傷人的價格來留人
09/17 07:51, 42F

09/17 07:51, 2年前 , 43F
有太多紅襪之前留人開那羞辱人的
09/17 07:51, 43F

09/17 07:51, 2年前 , 44F
案例太多
09/17 07:51, 44F

09/17 09:24, 2年前 , 45F
這幾年ss算淺了吧
09/17 09:24, 45F

09/17 09:28, 2年前 , 46F
今年剛好很多游擊手進FA,反而三壘沒什麼人
09/17 09:28, 46F

09/17 12:26, 2年前 , 47F
今年SS有打鼓有痛痛人有亂揮流,看下來XB繼續用就好
09/17 12:26, 47F
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