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[外電] JVG 790訪問

看板Rockets (休士頓 火箭)作者 (J-Crossover)時間9年前 (2016/05/27 22:01), 9年前編輯推噓39(39推 0噓 128→)
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Now... RECAP (joined mid interview) JVG: Believes Houston ownership is committed to winning, will be fun to see what ownership brings. Harden gets killed (by writers etc), but this guy is a great player. JVG:相信火箭老闆致力於贏球，看看老闆會帶來啥，這很有趣。鬍子被專欄作家等人..謀殺 了，但他仍然是個很棒的球員。 Q: Talking about Harden being dissed, becoming a sport to talk down Harden, not on all NBA team. Q: 談談關於鬍子被低貶，演變成一個笑話，沒有進all nba team JVG: He is a top 15 player no question, if you did a draft among all of the teams. If the Rockets had won 52 games, he would have been on one of those All NBA teams. When you put up the numbers he did. A worthwhile goal for James ... look at the two guards in the history of the game...in the last 25-30 years, you have Jordan, Wade, Kobe. After that, James Harden is coming, but to be in that discussion it's gonna have to be some all defensive teams. He's capable. A commitment to Def would bring winning and recognition. He is very capable defensively. If I was the Rockets, I would put out a highlight of his good def possessions and show him and the public. His commitment to def has to be there. Has been there more often than people give him credit for. People are focusing on the 2-3% bad versus the 97% good that he does. JVG: 若把所有球隊重新選秀一次，他毫無疑問是前15球員。若火箭贏52場，那麼他或許就 能進all nba teams。當你把數據擺出來，這對他來說是個有價值的目標….看看近25-30年 的SG，Jordan, Wade, Kobe，之後就是鬍子，但是你要進入那個被討論的領域，你必須要進 all defensive teams。他有能力，承擔防守責任能帶來勝利以及被大眾認可。他絕對有那 個能力打出防守。如果我待在火箭的話，我會把他好的防守高光秀給他看並且公開。他必須 承擔防守責任，他必須相對打出更多防守，多於人們對他的寬容。因為現在人們會專注於他 2-3%的爛防守，而不是97%好防守。 Q: With the hiring of D'antoni, is DH gone? Q: 聘請MDA，DH走定了? JVG: I think it's a financial decision for Howard. Goes where he feels he can secure best contract, last big contract. Great time for him with the cap jump. I suspect he will opt out and see who will commit the money to him. Another thing that has become a sport unto himself is knocking Howard, he's not the same bouncy guy from Orlando (minutes age injury). He's still a very good player. I thought it was a good move by Morey to get him, and someone is going to get a very good player, not a dominating player. JVG: 我認為這對DH來說只是金錢考量。他會選擇能拿最多錢的地方，最後一張大約。薪資 上限大漲，這對他來說是個好時機。我猜他會跳出，看看誰會用錢砸死他。還有一件事，現 在已經演變成笑話，對DH是個打擊，就是他已經不是魔術時期的DH了。但他仍然是個不 錯的球員。我認為這仍然是個不錯的選擇，無論是莫雷拿下他還是其他人拿下，拿下一個不 錯的球員，而不是統治級球員。 Q: On Analytics, Wilbon's piece, African American sports fans connecting with analytics. Buzz words about it has become more than analytics actually is. It's about outcomes that have taken place and finding tendencies. Is it really any different than advanced scouting? JVG: No, what you want as a coach is the most/best info to help your team win. You may agree with what numbers say or disagree, but the info is important and makes you think. Inspires thought and debate that is healthy for an org. Usually confirms what your eyes have already told you. Example, my last year in Houston, Daryl gave me numbers before every game (working under CD)...it was very good stuff, inspired good thinking among me and coaching staff. A couple of things, we should play Yao 48 mins a game, would be our best chance of winning, obviously we can't play him 48 minutes. Next one, at one point numbers said Mutumbo helped us win more than Yao. Deke was a great Rocket, but I thought that discounted some of the things Yao did. I don't think Deke could have played the same minutes but the numbers said he should play big minutes over Yao. have to use common sense and eyes. But it told us that we had a hell of a player in Deke. Have to weed through and see what the numbers are telling you, but the numbers are good. Don't have to be either/or, pro or anti analytics. JVG對火箭太有愛了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 124.8.74.213 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Rockets/M.1464357668.A.AEA.html ※ 編輯: JCrawford (124.8.74.213), 05/27/2016 22:11:44
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05/27 22:39, , 1F
唉！
05/27 22:39, 1F
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05/27 22:56, , 2F
JVG真的應該領個火箭大使的職位....
05/27 22:56, 2F
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05/27 23:17, , 3F
淚推JVG 感覺也不可能當首席助教調教防守QQ
05/27 23:17, 3F
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05/27 23:39, , 4F
剛也在看CF這篇 後面推文補充說JVG對執教火箭有興趣
05/27 23:39, 4F
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05/27 23:41, , 5F
但一直沒接到面談邀請 他對火箭是真愛Q.Q
05/27 23:41, 5F
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05/27 23:49, , 6F
鬍子落選真的是damaged reputation傷害太大了
05/27 23:49, 6F
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05/28 09:30, , 7F
被某超大眾無腦球迷damage的reputation
05/28 09:30, 7F
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05/28 09:34, , 8F
加上TNT那隻討厭鬼 反觀Drexler還說JH聯盟前五
05/28 09:34, 8F
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05/28 09:35, , 9F
嗚嗚 推JVG
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05/28 09:36, , 10F
難道這是抱腿有無冠的差距?(誤
05/28 09:36, 10F
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05/28 09:36, , 11F
主要是一堆落井下石的評論員啦 對鬍子都批的難聽
05/28 09:36, 11F
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05/28 09:36, , 12F
但把鬍子進攻跟防守的效率同時考慮 鬍子明明就還是
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05/28 09:37, , 13F
最top的球員 不過落選也不全然壞 至少可以激起鬍子
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05/28 09:37, , 14F
鬥志 無傷無痛從第一隊掉到nothing
05/28 09:37, 14F
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05/28 09:38, , 15F
Shaq其實也只是撿低光調侃 對他沒什麼很差評論
05/28 09:38, 15F
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05/28 09:40, , 16F
也比較少聽到有什麼其他評論員批評他
05/28 09:40, 16F
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05/28 09:40, , 17F
主要就那隻光頭+部分媒體
05/28 09:40, 17F
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05/28 09:41, , 18F
今年整體防守其實比去年好 也比2012-13那年好
05/28 09:41, 18F
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05/28 09:42, , 19F
but reputation是2014球季開始臭der 顆顆
05/28 09:42, 19F
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05/28 09:43, , 20F
而且要扯防守 K湯那根本就笑話了
05/28 09:43, 20F
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05/28 09:44, , 21F
裝忙的reputation最高 跟某人一樣
05/28 09:44, 21F
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05/28 11:24, , 22F
不過鬍子確實還能做的更好也是事實
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05/28 22:24, , 23F
Shaq那個會洗印象值 其實就等同很差批評了
05/28 22:24, 23F
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05/29 15:37, , 24F
我到底是在火箭版還是鬍子版
05/29 15:37, 24F
老兄，這篇文是轉自clutchfans，不是叫the beard's fans 總不會說clutchfans是鬍版吧? 不需要這麼玻璃
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05/29 19:00, , 25F
這篇訪問JVG就有提到鬍子啊 這樣也不能討論? @@"
05/29 19:00, 25F
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05/29 19:02, , 26F
JH落選All NBA team前兩天是大消息 這裡討論算少了
05/29 19:02, 26F
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05/29 19:05, , 27F
再說前面幾則都是選帥和球隊的討論 何來鬍子版之說?
05/29 19:05, 27F
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05/29 19:34, , 28F
NBA前三隊後衛依序有curry,西河,paul,lillard,KT,
05/29 19:34, 28F
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05/29 19:35, , 29F
K.Lowry，這六個人論球隊戰績,個人數據，
05/29 19:35, 29F
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05/29 19:39, , 30F
JH落選all nba team很怪？還是換掉誰比較公平？
05/29 19:39, 30F
記得t mac有一年在魔術只拿21勝，個人數據比鬍子今年稍微遜色點 躺著進第二隊... 再說了，在國外即使是非火箭迷，質疑這結果的也為數不少 怎會不奇怪呢?
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05/29 20:14, , 31F
不確定樓上真的有比對過入選後衛和鬍子的個人數據?
05/29 20:14, 31F
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05/29 20:16, , 32F
大消息是因為鬍子是這數據落選的歷史第一人...
05/29 20:16, 32F
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05/29 20:19, , 33F
上面也沒說要換掉誰 木已成舟 就下賽季再來過啊
05/29 20:19, 33F
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05/29 21:30, , 34F
六個中只有一個是SG,而且子龍也沒進，事情應該沒有
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05/29 21:30, , 35F
那麼嚴重
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※ 編輯: JCrawford (124.8.75.197), 05/29/2016 22:19:08
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05/29 23:04, , 36F
可惜選的是all nba team，不是進攻前三隊
05/29 23:04, 36F
還有 91 則推文
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05/31 02:24, , 128F
沒錯 隔一年媒體好惡多明顯就有多明顯
05/31 02:24, 128F
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05/31 02:25, , 129F
今年多的是媒體的負面評論 正面評論除了火箭相關還
05/31 02:25, 129F
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05/31 02:26, , 130F
真幾乎沒有
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05/31 02:28, , 131F
投票的是媒體 那JH呈現在媒體的印象就是他們不認為
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05/31 02:28, , 132F
值得進前三
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05/31 05:48, , 133F
甜瓜2015啥數據?才打幾場? 坦白講我鬍只打25 5 5
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的話 一堆人就會乖乖閉嘴 這數據太爛大街了
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05/31 05:49, , 135F
29 7.5 6 歷史上幾個人打出來過? 只有鬍子落選前
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三隊
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05/31 05:51, , 137F
幹嘛不能討論? 講得隨便一個路人都能打出來?
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05/31 05:51, , 138F
鬼打牆
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05/31 06:37, , 139F
有人就覺得多個4/1/1.5看起來很少啊XD
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05/31 06:38, , 140F
大概鬍子就算來個30/8/8 扣掉防守也不能第一隊啦～
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05/31 08:18, , 141F
哪來的 97% XD?
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05/31 20:38, , 142F
戰績差當然導致主將評價差……不管原因是防守還是
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05/31 20:38, , 143F
氣氛
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05/31 20:39, , 144F
主將球星本來就會被放大看缺點。
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05/31 21:41, , 145F
還在跳針這種理由 就是有一堆其他類似得主啊唉
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05/31 22:43, , 146F
蠻好笑的 總版遇到溪河防守差 進攻壓力大阿..
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05/31 22:47, , 147F
不過雷霆有雙槍 壓力再大 有鬍子大嗎..
05/31 22:47, 147F
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06/01 11:10, , 148F
說實話 球星25/5/5 戰績爛也常保送進去
06/01 11:10, 148F
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06/01 11:10, , 149F
只是不會在第一隊而已
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06/01 11:11, , 150F
今年是強的後衛太多，媒體帶風向很大
06/01 11:11, 150F
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06/01 11:12, , 151F
說戰積不佳...說防守不好...請問你有看到
06/01 11:12, 151F
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06/01 11:12, , 152F
第二隊的表弟嗎？
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06/03 22:51, , 153F
JH不只在於防守不好，而是在於恍神,散漫
06/03 22:51, 153F
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06/03 22:53, , 154F
防守不好球員很多，但一堆離譜防守片段
06/03 22:53, 154F
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06/03 22:54, , 155F
因為夠特別，就不要怪別人去檢視，更別說影響投票
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06/03 22:55, , 156F
硬要說拿數據為主，破了NBA失誤紀錄算不算數據？
06/03 22:55, 156F
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06/04 00:37, , 157F
所以前年為啥第一隊 前年很少恍神嗎? 你論點蠻可
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06/04 00:37, , 158F
笑的
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06/04 00:38, , 159F
另外破失誤記錄跟拿不到第ㄧ隊有啥關連嗎 舉例也舉
06/04 00:38, 159F
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太差
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06/04 11:50, , 161F
可以去看看Drexler說什麼 不過那些話有些人就要說Dr
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exler黑隊友了
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06/04 11:54, , 163F
原諒他 支持球隊卻很討厭當家球星 然後又跟同樣
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06/04 11:55, , 164F
支持球隊的板友沒交集 這還真的是蠻痛苦的
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06/04 11:56, , 165F
不如就轉他隊支持吧 目前是看不到鬍子有被交易的
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可能性
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06/04 18:16, , 167F
經歷過三年樂透 我是不懂為什麼會討厭當家球星
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