2013 Rockies Top 20 Prospects

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幫補原文連結 http://ppt.cc/Gc4U 順便重新解釋一下 Sickels 的分級標準 Grade A 新秀中的佼佼者,有機會成為明星或看板。 只要沒有傷痛困擾的話,這些新秀幾乎都能在大聯盟佔有一席之地。 Grade B 有的會成為明星,擁有不錯的球員生涯;有的不會。 未來這些新秀,至少能當個龍套,在大聯盟混個幾年球季。 Geade C 最常見的類型。 這種新秀有些可取之處,但同時也有一些會讓他們看起來離大聯盟很遠的問題。 少數(特別是在低階的)人可以長成球星。 C級的新秀可能成為板凳或功能性球員,也有很多根本上不了大聯盟。 每個層級的分類還有一些差別。 我的評比算是嚴苛的,C+算不錯了,有些C+(尤其是低階)的最後也長得不錯。 最後請記得,這些都只是簡略的評比而已,詳細內容還是要看球探報告比較好。 菜鳥聯盟的 Grade C 或許將來會很強悍,但三A的 Grade C 大概就只能那樣了。 以下簡單翻一下,有興趣或疑慮的話大家自己看原文 XD ※ 引述《MattSzczur (凱薩大帝)》之銘言: : 1) Trevor Story, SS, Grade B+: Borderline A-: I want to see how his contact : issues look against better pitching, but overall there are a lot of things to : like here. . .power, speed, walks, defense, a complete package if the : strikeouts don't eat him up. I don't expect they will. Ranks a bit ahead of : Dahl due to defensive premium. 1) Trevor Story, SS, B+ ~ A- (今年開季20歲, 2012層級A) 他有很多優點:打擊power、速度、保送、防守。 但他的contact是個大問題,若能克服被三振太多的這個麻煩,他就是完全體了。 排名比Dahl前面的原因是他防守的潛能較好。 : 2) David Dahl, OF, Grade B+: Borderline A-. Almost went with the A-, but Story : needs to rank ahead due to defensive premium and longer track record. I like : them both. Like Story, Dahl can be a complete offensive player with power, : speed, and defensive contributions. I just want to see him outside the Pioneer : League. 2) David Dahl, OF, B+ ~ A- (今年開季19歲, 2012層級R) 跟 Story 一樣,爆發力、腳程、守備都很好。 迫不及待看他在更高階聯盟的表現了。 : 3) Nolan Arenado, 3B; Grade B+: Glove is very good, should be a solid but not : outstanding hitter in a neutral environment, say .275/.330/.450, however Coors : Field should play to his strengths and goose those numbers. 3) Nolan Arenado, 3B, B+ (今年開季22歲, 2012層級AA) 防守很棒,打擊穩定但無法太搶眼,大概像 .275/.330/.450 這種數字。 不過在褲兒濕球場的話應該能再好看一點吧。 : 4) Kyle Parker, OF, Grade B: Made very good progress cutting down on his : strikeouts and improving plate discipline, and I don't think his power was a : Cal League illusion. Not a .300 hitter in a neutral environment, but should be : a 20+ homer guy. 4) Kyle Parker, OF, B (今年開季23歲, 2012層級A+) 進步很多的一個球季,三振大幅減少,打擊耐心也提升很多, 我認為他展現出來的爆發力是真貨。 不是一個3成打者,但是他可以穩定繳出20轟。 : 5) Edwar Cabrera, LHP, Grade B-: He's got that killer changeup, low-90s : fastball, and a decent-enough curve, plus he pitched well in Colorado Springs. : Whether that's enough to survive Coors, I don't know, but in a neutral : environment I think he'd be a solid fourth starter. 5) Edwar Cabrera, LHP, B- (今年開季25歲, 2012層級AA、AAA、MLB) 很殺的變速球,low-90s速球,不錯的曲球,在3A丟得不錯 (譯註:3A球場比Coors還要偏打者) 我不知道這樣夠不夠在褲兒濕生存啦,但在其他地方可以當個不錯的四號了。 : 6) Eddie Butler, RHP, Grade B-: Sinker/slider combo with velocity plus movement : gave him 2.13 ERA with 55/13 K/BB, 1.96 GO/AO in the Pioneer League. Poor : changeup may limit him to relief at higher levels, but if it comes around he : could be a number three starter. 6) Eddie Butler, RHP, B- (今年開季22歲, 2012層級R) 球速、伸卡球、滑球、尾勁等等讓他今年在菜鳥聯盟投得很殺。 糟糕的變速球可能會讓他在高階聯盟無法勝任後援的工作, 不過若能克服這個,他將會成為一個三號先發。 : 7) Tyler Anderson, LHP, Grade B-: Average fastball but excellent changeup and : control resulted in 2.47 ERA in Low-A, 81/28 K/BB in 120 innings. Breaking ball : is so-so and limits his strikeout potential. Projects as a number four starter. 7) Tyler Anderson, LHP, B- (今年開季23歲, 2012層級A) 中等的速球、出色的變速球和控球,在低A投得不錯。 普普的變化球限制了他的三振功力,大概是個四號投手。 : 8) Corey Dickerson, OF, Grade B-: At some point people just have to admit that : the guy can hit, mediocre tools and middling glove aside. May not be a big : batting average guy, but the power is real in my view. 8) Corey Dickerson, OF, B- (今年開季24歲, 2012層級A+、AA) 打擊可能沒辦法很好,但power是真貨。 : 9) Tyler Matzek, LHP, Grade C+: Stuff isn't the problem, but will his command : ever be good enough for the stuff to matter? I have no idea. Grade A arm, but : Grade C/D+ in the control and consistency departments. 9) Tyler Matzek, LHP, C+ (今年開季22歲, 2012層級A+) A級的手臂和stuff。 但是無論控球、command、穩定度都屬C/D級, 我也不知道他到底有沒有辦法把他們進步到足以和stuff相襯。 : 10) Rafael Ortega, OF, Grade C+: Line drive hitter with amazing defensive : skills, but needs to prove that his bat will hold up against advanced pitching. : Double-A will tell us if he can be a possible regular or just a good fourth : outfielder. 10) Rafael Ortega, OF, C+ (今年開季22歲, 2012層級A+、MLB) 平飛球打者,防守技巧高超。 不過他的打擊還需要在2A精進,否則他就只能是個四號外野手。 : 11) Chad Bettis, RHP, Grade C+: Missed entire season with shoulder problems. : He's a solid Grade B prospect if healthy, as a mid-rotation starter or (more : probably) a relief option and potential closer due to his issues with the : changeup. Both fastball and slider are plus/plus pitches. 11) Chad Bettis, RHP, C+ (今年開季24歲, 2011層級A+) 因為肩膀傷勢報銷2012球季,他健康的時候會是個很好的B級新秀。 速球和滑球都屬上乘,但變速球問題使他最多能成為中段輪值或終結者。 : 12) Tom Murphy, C, Grade C+: Third round pick from University of Buffalo is : somewhat raw as college players go, but is athletic, has power, and unlike Will : Swanner he'll stay at catcher. 12) Tom Murphy, C, C+ (今年開季22歲, 2012層級A-) 有爆發力,是塊運動員的料,不過還沒完全適應職業球賽。 他應該會繼續蹲捕,不像下面那位 Will Swanner 。 : 13) Will Swanner, C, Grade C+: Enormous power, 30-homer potential, but his : strikeout problems (101 in 325 AB) may preclude batting average/OBP against : better pitching. His defense is terrible, caught 10% of runners and gave up 120 : stolen bases in 75 games behind the plate in Low-A. 13) Will Swanner, C, C+ (今年開季21歲, 2012層級A) 驚人的power有著30轟的潛力,但超高的三振率會限制他的 AVG & OBP。 他的防守暴爛,在低階1A的75場蹲捕中,被盜了110個壘,阻殺率只有10趴。 (譯註:他另外有13場是以DH身分出賽) : 14) Ryan Wheeler, 3B-1B, Grade C+: Acquired in trade with Diamondbacks. : Adequate glove at third could keep position warm until Arenado is ready. Bat is : average with decent power and should play well in Coors. 14) Ryan Wheeler, 3B-1B, C+ (今年開季24歲, 2012層級AAA、MLB) 用 Matt Reynolds 從小蛇隊換來的。 在Arenado上來之前,他可以勝任三壘的防守工作。 打擊中等、power不賴,應該能在褲兒濕打得不錯。 : 15) Tim Wheeler, OF, Grade C+: Hamate injury sapped power, hit just two homers : in Triple-A after knocking 33 in Double-A in 2011. True level of talent is : somewhere in between. Has problems hitting lefties, solid glove, platoon/fourth : outfielder profile. 15) Tim Wheeler, OF, C+ (今年開季25歲, 2012層級AAA) 手部鉤骨的傷勢導致他的power一落千丈,2011年打33發,2012只有2發。 不善打左投,防守好,四號外野或platoon。 : 16) Jayson Aquino, LHP, Grade C+: Highly projectable lefty made brief but : successful debut in Pioneer League (1.87 ERA in 43 innings) after dominating : Dominican Summer League. 88-92 now with more heat possible, has a good : changeup, working on breaking stuff, just turned 20. 16) Jayson Aquino, LHP, C+ (今年開季20歲, 2012層級R) 才要20歲而已,變速球不賴,速球和球質都在精進中。 : 17) Rob Scahill, RHP, Grade C+: Easy to overlook due to 5.68 ERA in Triple-A, : but that's Colorado Springs and his FIP was two runs lower. Quality : fastball/sinker/slider combination could be useful in pen if command is there, : could also be fifth starter. 17) Rob Scahill, RHP, C+ (今年開季26歲, 2012層級AAA) 在AAA的成績沒有帳面上的慘,fastball/sinker/slider在牛棚會有點用,或是當個五號。 : 18) Joe Gardner, RHP, Grade C+: Another sinkerballer with 2.04 GO/AO in : Double-A, should see the majors sometime this year. Like Scahill, he could be a : back-end starter or a reliever that you can stretch out more than one inning. 18) Joe Gardner, RHP, C+ (今年開季25歲, 2012層級AA) 又一個滾滾投手,今年應該會上來露臉。 和 Rob Scahill 一樣,可能支援先發或是較長的中繼。 : 19) Danny Rosenbaum, LHP, Grade C+: Rule 5 pick from Nationals could stick in : bullpen with a chance to start at some point given good durability history, : control, and ground ball tendency (2.29 GO/AO in Double-A). We should sense a : theme here with sinker specialists Rosenbaum, Gardner, and Scahill all in line : for trials. 19) Danny Rosenbaum, LHP, C+ (今年開季25歲, 2012層級AA) 用規則五選秀從國民隊挑來的左投,也是個滾滾人,定位和前兩位差不多。 : 20) Wilfredo Rodriguez, C, Grade C+: Seventh round pick out of high school in : Puerto Rico is stocky at 5-10, 200, but quite mobile, should develop into a : good defensive catcher, has power potential, hit .319/.370/.452 in Pioneer : League. Long-term prospect but quite interesting. 20) Wilfredo Rodriguez, C, C+ (今年開季19歲, 2012層級R) 有點長打潛力,或許會是個防守好的捕手。 值得長期培養的年輕新秀。 : OTHER GRADE C+ PLAYERS: Cristhian Adames, SS; Rosell Herrera, INF; Seth : Willoughby, RHP. These guys could easily slot in the 16-20 range but I wanted : to highlight guys closer to the majors. 其他 C+ Cristhian Adames, SS Rosell Herrera, INF Seth Willoughby, RHP 其實他們也能輕易排進16~20名的位置,不過我比較聚焦在接近大聯盟層級的球員。 : OTHERS: Charlie Culberson, 2B; Taylor Featherston, INF; Ryan Garvey, OF; Angel : Lezama, RHP; Kent Matthes, OF; Sam Mende, INF; Scott Oberg, RHP; Jeff Popick, : OF; Harold Riggins, 1B; Helmis Rodriguez, LHP; Antonio Senzatela, RHP; Peter : Tago, RHP; Ryan Warner, RHP; Max White, OF; Danny Winkler, RHP; Julian Yan, OF. : As everyone knows, the Rockies have a unique challenge in developing players : for the extreme offensive conditions in Coors Field. 大家都知道落磯的褲兒濕是個極端打者球場,要養成新秀有其難度。 : The strength is the hitting at the top of the system. Aside from a poor July, : Arenado's 2012 season was in line with what he did in 2011 once league contexts : are considered. His glove is coming along nicely and he should be a productive : hitter, if a bit short of stardom. Story and Dahl have a few questions to : answer, but if things go well both can be A-grade prospects a year from now. I : am pro-Parker, so at the top of the chart you have four players who should be : solid regulars at least and possibly (probably?) more. Dickerson, Ortega, and : both Wheelers should all be valuable role players of some variety. There are : also some interesting middle infield types with unproven bats to provide some : depth beyond Story. I also like the catching depth, even if I doubt Swanner : behind the plate both Murphy and Wilfredo Rodriguez from the 2012 draft are : very promising. 農場頂端的優勢還是打者。 拋開糟糕的七月,Arenado 的表現和 2011 相差不大,他的防守越來越好,在攻擊面也能 有穩定的輸出,雖然可能不夠好。 Story 和 Dahl 都有些問題要解決,若是搞定的話他們明年就會晉升為A級新秀。 Dickerson, Ortega, 兩位 Wheeler 都會有點用處。 在 Story 後面還有一些棒子尚未開竅的MI。 捕手深度不錯,Murphy、Rodriguez 兩位大有可為,但我懷疑 Swanner 的防守。 : Things are tougher on the pitching side. The most advanced pitching prospect is : Cabrera, who is unconventional but successful, though whether that will work in : Coors is unknown. Matzek and Bettis have higher upside, but Tyler's command : troubles are legendary and Chad's shoulder is worrisome for me until he proves : his health. Both could thrive, both could bust. We need higher level data from : Butler and Anderson but neither of them have done anything wrong yet. Products : of the Latin American program like Aquino and the successful pitchers in the : Dominican Summer League like Rodriguez and Senzatela need innings but could be : breaktroughs in the lower levels of the system. There is quite a bit of : material that could fit in a bullpen, much of it close to the majors. 但是在投手這方面就麻煩多了。 最成功的 Cabrera 能不能在褲兒濕生存還是未定之天。 Matzek 和 Bettis 有很高的天賦,但 Matzek 的command已經是史詩級的麻煩; Bettis 的 肩傷也讓人擔憂。他們可能一飛沖天,也可能會化成灰燼。 Butler 和 Anderson 還需要更高階的比賽來觀察,目前為止沒什麼大問題。 拉美投手如 Antonio Senzatela、Helmis Rodriguez、Jayson Aquino 都還需要再磨練, 預期他們在低階聯盟會有所突破。 有足夠的 MLB-ready 投手可以支援牛棚。 : In short, the Rockies system has some weak points and needs some pitchers with : fewer question-marks, but there is positional depth that many teams would envy, : especially at the top. 簡而言之,落磯農場有些弱點而且急需好投手, 不過在農場前段,也擁有讓其他球隊稱羨的野手深度。 心得: 和前幾年的名單相比就知道,這系統中的投打養成都出了些問題 這個球季最大的亮點當屬Story、Dahl,以及幾乎是起死回生的Friedrich 除此之外簡直乏善可陳 不是養壞,就是沒有如預期進步 Tyler Matzek 的command Nolan Arenado 的power Chad Bettis 痛痛 Tim Wheeler 受傷後大退步 Peter Tago ..... Kent Matthes...... 其他表現不錯的多半開竅太慢 高階的進步有限,年輕的還太嫩看不出什麼天花板 我們最需要的位置是先發投手和三壘手 再比照一下這農場,有辦法期待能成為實質戰力的新人真的沒幾個 幾筆交易,上沒補到洞,下沒加深度 實在難以教人對這個冬天的動作感到滿意 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.170.185.159 ※ 編輯: Tulowitzki2 來自: 118.170.185.159 (01/16 07:18)

01/16 12:44, , 1F
感謝分享!!
01/16 12:44, 1F

01/16 12:48, , 2F
Ryan Wheeler bat average with decent power
01/16 12:48, 2F

01/16 12:49, , 3F
這邊好像是說Wheeler是安打型球員,但砲瓦也還不錯...
01/16 12:49, 3F

01/16 12:50, , 4F
他去年六月在3A雷諾隊單月打了50支安打,打擊率四成四二...
01/16 12:50, 4F

01/16 12:54, , 5F
我猜今年開季3B應該就是他跟Pacheco競爭
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01/16 12:55, , 6F
兩個人contact都不錯,或許Pacheco的contact更好一些
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01/16 12:56, , 7F
但Wheeler的三壘守備更好,而且有三壘平均水準的砲瓦
01/16 12:56, 7F

01/16 12:56, , 8F
如果能有500AB的話,在庫爾斯的加持下或許可以有15~20HR...
01/16 12:56, 8F

01/16 15:28, , 9F
我把bat is 看成bat for是我搞錯了
01/16 15:28, 9F

01/16 15:30, , 10F
1原po翻的才是對的,是我腦補了,抱歉。 :(
01/16 15:30, 10F

01/16 19:13, , 11F
春訓再看看吧 說不定Arenado剛開季手感就很棒
01/16 19:13, 11F

01/16 19:19, , 12F
但他應該還是會在AAA開季,除非另兩個3B有人受傷
01/16 19:19, 12F

01/16 23:31, , 13F
David Dahl!!
01/16 23:31, 13F

01/16 23:31, , 14F
Grade:6 bat, 55 power, 6 run, 5 D in CF, 65 arm.
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01/16 23:52, , 15F
有人比做臂力強很多但power稍差的Damon
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01/17 21:51, , 16F
臂力強很多XDDD
01/17 21:51, 16F

01/21 22:28, , 17F
BA排Arenado為NO.1 prospect,tools太強大了
01/21 22:28, 17F
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