Fw: [外電] Why Is Matt Cain Struggling

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※ [本文轉錄自 MLB 看板 #1HiKC4t3 ] 作者: JakeMcGee (Jake McGee) 看板: MLB 標題: [外電] Why Is Matt Cain Struggling 時間: Fri Jun 7 10:18:42 2013 Why Is Matt Cain Struggling http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/why-is-matt-cain-struggling/ by Eno Sarris - June 6, 2013 === 有興趣的人請看全文 *Cain今年的球速 K/9 BB/9 LD% FB%等跟生涯都差不多 1.Cain今年控在好球帶邊緣的比例下降(生涯:19.8%, 2013:17.6%) 2.投進紅中區則是生涯新高(生涯:35.6%, 2013:39.6%) 3.PU%(pop-out)則是生涯新低(生涯:5.2%, 2013:2.9%) === Walk around AT&T Park and ask people inside and outside of the organization what’s wrong with Matt Cain and you’ll get a different answer every time: “He’s tipping his pitches from the stretch.” “It’s just the Cardinals, that’s all.” “The Cardinals got our signs from Bengie Molina.” “It’s his command.” It’s worth trying each pair of pants on, but there’s also one person who might have special insight on this matter. Matt Cain. The Cardinals thing is just weird. Take his two starts against them out of his line this year, and he’s got an 4.04 ERA and a couple bad starts in hitter’s havens (Milwaukee and Colorado). Pitcher vs. team stats are iffy over long hauls, but last year the Cardinals scored nine runs in 11.2 regular season innings, and this year’s team is similar in structure. Still, over his entire career, Cain has had a 3.37 ERA and 1.18 WHIP, and against the Cardinals, in 57 innings, he’s had a 6.63 ERA and a 1.49 WHIP. Other than the Brewers (and their park) and a few American League teams he’s seen once or twice, the Cardinals are his bane. His successes against them pale in comparison to the troubles he’s had against the team. Because it’s gone on his whole career, it’s hard to blame any one thing that ’s happening right now. Sure, Bengie Molina joined the Cardinals’ coaching staff. And Mike Matheny is their manager. Neither was there in 2008 when the Cards ran a nine spot up on him in 3.2 innings. If this recent outburst is due to some sign-stealage, we’d have a heck of a time proving it. That’s often done by the baserunners, who aren’t on television when they are attempting to convey the next pitch to the batter. Watch video closely and it seems impossible that Cain is tipping his pitches with runners on. He’s very simple from the stretch, and the glove doesn’t look like it moves when he searches for his grip. But his numbers from the stretch this year are much worse than the league average, and his own average, at least as far as we can tell. Using ‘runners on’ as a proxy, we can see on Baseball-Reference.com that he’s normally had a .674 OPS against with runners on (slightly better than the league average of .737). This year, batters have a 1.079 OPS against him from the stretch. It could be a small sample thing, or it could be mechanical. Former major leaguer Mauro Gozzo taught Matt Cain his basic mechanics way back when the Giants’ ace was growing up in Tennessee, and he preached to Cain that he should “stay back and balanced.” The pitcher needs to make sure he’s set and has his balance at his release point. There does seem to be something going on with his release point. Look at his 2012 release points on the left, and then check out his current season on the right: 2012 http://cdn.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Cainrelease12.png
2013 http://cdn.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Cainrelease13.png
Things get a little tougher when you try to look at it in real life. Here are moving pictures, both against the Cardinals, both out of the stretch. 2012 on the left and 2013 on the right. 2012 http://cdn.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Cain12.gif
2013 http://cdn.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Cain13.gif
Looks fairly carbon copy. Let’s freeze it when we see the numbers on the back of his jersey (2012 on left, 2013 on right): 2012 http://cdn.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/CainRelease12.jpg
2013 http://cdn.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Cainrelease13.jpg
Maybe he’s a little out in front this year? Maybe? This is tough, and Cain knows it. He’s “trying to get to key points in his delivery,” and his coaches are trying to make sure his “mistakes are down” in order to minimize the damage. The problem is that we know Cain likes to pitch higher in the zone than some, at least with the heater: http://cdn.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/cainzoneFB.png
Joey Votto even complimented him on the ability in our interview: Certain pitchers will still try to induce pop-ups from the player that has hit the fewest infield flies in baseball … “It’s got to be the perfect sliver of the strike zone, up and in-ish, and I have to take the wrong swing, and I have to swing at it,” said Votto. (And, yes, he agreed that Matt Cain is good at it.) When I told Cain about Votto’s compliment, his answer was almost predictable given his matter-of-fact nature: “I guess I’m missing the sliver.” This year, Bill Petti debuted Edge%, a statistic that might help us understand command better. Since Cain’s walk rate is almost identical to his career walk rate, it would be tempting to say nothing has changed there. But he could be missing the edge and keeping the ball in the zone, or showing control but not command: Fastball Career 2013 Edge% 19.8% 17.6% Heart% 35.6% 36.9% This might mean something. Cain is hitting the edge of the strike zone less, and he’s hitting the heart of the strike zone more. Too many balls drifting into the heart of the zone means one thing: “It seems like my mistakes are all getting hit for homers,” Cain said. And after a career showing a 7.1% home-run-per-fly-ball-rate, Cain’s right: 15.1% of his fly balls are now homers. Not all homers are alike. HitTrackerOnline has a designation for home runs that did “Just Enough” and wouldn’t be dingers in all parks. Of the 1760 home runs that have been hit this year, 609 have been Just Enoughs (34.6%). Of the 13 home runs Matt Cain has given up this year, four have been Just Enoughs (30.1%). Cain is tied for 19th on the list of Just Enoughs, but that’ s probably since he’s given up a lot of home runs. His percentage is less than the league percentage. Part of the story *may* be pop flies. Pop-up percentage (or infield fly ball percentage times fly ball percentage) has been shown to have a similar year-to-year correlation as walk percentage (~.6), so it looks like it’s a skill. Cain’s shown it for years, and it’s gone right now: Year PU% 2005 6.2% 2006 7.8% 2007 5.1% 2008 4.4% 2009 4.5% 2010 7.6% 2011 4.1% 2012 4.5% 2013 2.9% League average for pop-up percentage is 3.8% this year, so even regressing back to league average would help Cain. Even better would be regressing back to his career average (5.2%). And since he’s shown this skill so steadily his whole career (enough that hitters like Votto have noticed, too) it’s probably a good idea to bet that Cain will once again show this skill this season. Maybe Cain should actually pitch higher in the zone, get his fly ball rate up to where it normally sits (this year he’s allowing the second-fewest fly balls of his career), and take the infield fly balls that come with that change? Matt Cain’s velocity, pitching mix and swinging strike, walk, strikeout and ground-ball rates are all virtually identical to his career rates, so it’s tempting to say that nothing is different. And yet, Matt Cain is making mistakes. Since he’s always around the zone, they are hittable mistakes. And now that they are closer to the heart of the zone, they are being hit harder than they’ve ever been hit. Ask the crowd, and there are a million theories. Ask the pitcher, and it’s just about making mistakes. Ask the numbers, and they say that yes, he’s missing his spots, but that his career still suggests he can right the ship. Maybe tweaking his release point and working his balance at that moment will be the spark that ignites the regression back to his career mean. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 1.171.110.185 ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: JakeMcGee (1.171.110.185), 時間: 06/07/2013 10:18:42 ※ 編輯: JakeMcGee 來自: 1.171.110.185 (06/07 10:20)

06/07 10:34, , 1F
釣本尊意圖明顯,上鉤!
06/07 10:34, 1F

06/07 10:38, , 2F
樓上要不要也來一篇Why Is Jake McGee Struggling
06/07 10:38, 2F

06/07 11:03, , 3F
END
06/07 11:03, 3F

06/07 11:13, , 4F
McGee自己已經恢復了,所以才敢來吊Cain XD
06/07 11:13, 4F

06/07 12:21, , 5F
巨人的一 二號都發生危機了?
06/07 12:21, 5F

06/07 12:24, , 6F
我比較想知道Hellickson怎麼了
06/07 12:24, 6F

06/07 12:25, , 7F
Hellickson單純還債吧
06/07 12:25, 7F

06/07 12:40, , 8F
說的是光芒的Hellickson?
06/07 12:40, 8F

06/07 13:05, , 9F
是阿 光芒的SP 他今年局數都吃不長
06/07 13:05, 9F

06/07 13:16, , 10F
stat head懷疑hell boy很久了
06/07 13:16, 10F

06/07 15:16, , 11F
看起來沒差很多耶
06/07 15:16, 11F
※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: JeremyKSKGA (1.173.213.145), 時間: 06/07/2013 18:19:14

06/08 03:18, , 12F
to sum up: no worries!
06/08 03:18, 12F

06/08 16:03, , 13F
有沒有可能是尾勁變弱??這光看球速應該看不出來
06/08 16:03, 13F
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