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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1GW8KVOd ] 作者: kart (=\) 看板: NBA 標題: [外絮] KD: The Penny Hardaway We Deserved 時間: Fri Oct 19 06:39:25 2012 原文出處： http://ppt.cc/3bhl 這篇文章或許很多人不會認同，畢竟兩者的打法著實有差，不過作者（某報專欄作者的blog）以兩者的大學到聯盟的前四年來作比較並且用影片做佐證來說明兩者在技巧上的相同之處也別有一番見解身為老人，看這些影片會讓人懷念起為什麼Penny是眾多中生代球星在MJ之外的另一個常見的偶像不是浪得虛名可考的包括未進NBA前的Laoda，T-Mac, Lebron, 鷹王等我認為若沒看過Penny打球只看記錄會覺得好像還好，但是身為那個時代的人若有在看老喬，一定也會注意到東區的大歐和一分錢大歐籃下新生代怪獸，一分錢才華洋溢的傳球，行雲流水般的進攻兩者相輔相成常有讓人拍案叫絕的佳作，在95年板倒公牛到96年更是達到高峰廢話不多說，文章如下 Kevin Durant: The Penny Hardaway We Deserved KD：一個讓我們彌補Penny Hardaway遺憾的球員 Hey all. I recently wrote this article on Kevin Durant and Penny Hardaway at my own blog, The Peach Basket. Seeing as this is an OKC message board, I figured who better to read and pick apart my first writing venture at the site. While I am a new member here, I was a former SB Nation writer at the (now defunct) Head Kick Legend. Anyway, give it a read and let me know what you think. 作者的心路歷程。 Lebron James and Michael Jordan. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. Kobe Bryant and Smush Parker. As fans of such an individualized sport like basketball, we have grown accustomed to hearing numerous conversations begin with, "So, who’s better…?" While often exercises in futility, it is nevertheless a fun conversation to have in the off-season. LBJ或是MJ。魔術或是大鳥。Laoda或是旋轉門。在籃球這個崇尚個人主義的運動裡，大家茶餘飯後最愛問的問題就是「誰比較強啊？」而這些比較往往都淪為無謂的口水戰。不過作為休賽季閒嗑牙的討論倒是頗有樂趣。 With all that being said, let us examine two players that often escape comparison, despite the striking similarities in their games. Anferene Hardaway entered the league in 1993 as college’s top point guard prospect. Beyond his tremendous skill at the point, Penny was an anomaly in that he was 6’7", a mere inch shorter than fellow draftee (and small forward) Jamal Mashburn. He skipped his final year of eligibility at Memphis State, after being named a finalist for both the Player of the Year and the John R. Wooden Award. Fast forward to 2007, and Kevin Durant’s story reads much the same. Durant, too, headed to the league early, after winning virtually every individual accolade as a Sophomore at the University of Texas. Also worth noting is that KD was a 6’10" (although some posit that he may be nearer 7’) small forward. 廢話那麼多，我們來比較兩個很少被比較的球員，即使他們其實有很大的共通性。哈得威在1993年以該年最強後場入選NBA。他在一號位非常有天份，但是他的身高和體型優勢更是讓人難以忽視（他只比當年同梯也很強的小前鋒Jamal Mashburn矮一寸）。哈得威在大三囊括了所有NCAA的榮譽，並且提前參加選秀。讓我們快轉到2007年，基本上KD就像在重複以上的故事一樣，他提前加入聯盟因為他已經洗捲了所有NCAA的個人榮譽。而跟哈得威相同的是他也是同位置中的高個兒（6'10"打小前鋒） Beyond the fact that they could see over most of their defenders, Penny Hardaway and Kevin Durant share even more in common when you begin to break down their statistics and style of play. Both were instant impact rookies, with Penny averaging 16 points and 6 assists in 82 starts, and KD getting 20 points, 4 boards, and 2 assists per game in 80 starts. Also, each player was named to the NBA All-Rookie First Team and won the NBA Rookie Challenge MVP at All-Star Weekend. And they were only getting started. 除了顯而易見的事實：他們能在他們的位置上有極好的視野，哈得威和KD的數據面和打法也是很類似的。第一，兩者在菜鳥年就立刻成為球隊的即戰力。哈得威菜鳥年82場全先發，平均16分6助攻。 KD菜鳥年80場先發，平均20分四板。第二，兩者皆拿下菜鳥第一隊並且得到菜鳥明星賽的MVP。第三，這都還只是開頭。。。 KD and Penny each averaged a PER in the mid-teens during their rookie season, hovering around the league’s average. Over the course of the next two campaigns, each player saw this number rise exponentially, with Penny hitting a 24.6 and Durant maxing out at a 26.2. This lead to each man earning a place in the league’s All-Star game. KD和Penny的PER在菜鳥年都還是僅優於平均值。但是在之後兩季皆得到爆炸性的成長。 Penny在第三季就達到24.6的PER值，KD更是已經達到26.2。這種表現讓他們早早就成為全明星賽的常客。 While similar, the statistics are obviously going to differ slightly due to the differences in positions and the style that the league employed at the time. Plus, numbers are boring; so let ’s go to the videotape: 當然雖然相似，但是數據上還是可以看到兩者有很大的不同，不過我認為是因為他們打的位置不同，還有當今的球風的影響。而且畢竟看數據很無聊，所以我們來看看影片： Let’s see what happens when each player is given the ball on the outside… 當兩者在外圍持球時： (Clip starts at 1:00) http://youtu.be/qp8aZRhyxOM

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The defender is forced to respect their ability to drive, and thus falls susceptible to the (identical) crossover to fadeaway move. Of course, here, Durant has the advantage of being guarded by Marvin Williams. 防守者被迫聶於他們切入的能力，因此容易被他們的胯下運球所騙。而結果都是一樣的：被製造出大空擋跳投得分。當然在這裡KD吃了矮他一號的Marvin Williams和Penny吃Pippen 難度是有點差別啦。 So, they both can shoot. Let’s now look at how they handle posting up. 所以他們都有不錯的外線，那我們來看看他們的低位能力 http://youtu.be/3xulAGFIFV8

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Aware of each player’s jumper, the defenders force their man to the baseline. As you see, this does not end well. In Penny’s case, the height difference between him and John Stockton is about six inches. Even Lebron, who is listed a mere inch shorter, has few answers for Durant once he elevates towards the rim. 注意到兩者的跳投能力，防守者只好壓迫他們在底線附近。不過你可以清楚看到這招並沒用。Penny很輕易地就過了矮他六寸的老史。甚至Lebron這個只比KD矮一寸（賬面上）的防守者也是守不住在籃筐附近的KD。 Fine, they can score. How about we double, triple, or quadruple team them? Nu-uh. 好吧，所以他們都能得分。那當他們被雙夾，三夾甚至四夾實咧？沒用！ http://youtu.be/JkTxYxWErvs

（哈得威最有名的助攻之一，這個動作真的太順） As soon as Penny starts his drive, you can instantly see four Knicks turn their full attention to him in hopes of stopping one of his signature up-and-under finishes. So what does Penny do? Spins, and throws a no-look, over the shoulder pass for an uncontested dunk. 我們可以看到當Penny開始往裡運球時，對方馬上四面包抄防止他的招牌切入，晃動後投灌籃。所以遇到這種程度的包夾時Penny怎麼做？他做一個360度的轉身後像是背後長眼睛一樣地往肩膀後一丟給無人防守的隊友來個輕鬆灌籃！ http://youtu.be/tt9OsdAKwM8

Similarly, the second Westbrook tosses Durant the ball, Kobe Bryant and Andrew Bynum both take their gaze off their men and turn to him. This causes Bynum to cheat up and completely ignore the pick Kendrick Perkins is setting on Kobe. With Kobe neutralized and Bynum out of position (shocker), Durant is free to throw up a lob to Westbrook at the rim. 而類似的，當西和把球傳給KD後，Kobe和拜男馬上去包夾KD。當兩者都失去位置後，KD輕易地把球丟給無人防守的西河灌籃。 While neither man is infallible, defenders are essentially damned if they do, damned if they don’t. 當然兩者都還有失誤的時候，不過不管如何，防守他們的人永遠是一個頭兩個大。 The final aspect of comparison I want to touch on, is the foil that each man presents within the NBA. Penny Hardaway entered the league on the heels of Michael Jordan’s (first) three-peat. With the end of the "Bad Boys era" Pistons and the Pacers and Knicks being the Pacers and Knicks, there was no real challenger to Jordan’s Bulls. This all changed with the Penny-lead Magic in 1995, who knocked out Chicago in an incredible 6-game series. Unfortunately, this semblance of parity in an MJ-dominated league only lasted for one year, as shortly thereafter, Hardaway’s career was ravaged by knee injuries. 最後一點兩人值得比較之處在於他們在NBA中的地位。哈得威進入聯盟時正好是MJ第一次三連霸時，後底特律「壞孩子」時代而東區傳統強權溜馬和尼克還是溜馬和尼克，不足以撼動公牛。但是這些想法都被Penny領軍的新生代強權魔術在95年顛覆了。當然，喬丹也只失敗了那一年，之後發生啥事我們都知道了，而最不幸的是Penny的生涯之後也被膝傷所毀。 On the other hand, Kevin Durant entered the league to a different kind of dominance. While Lebron James wasn’t racking up the titles, it was clear by 2007 that his individual abilities were second to none. Sure, some Laker fans were adamant that Kobe was still top-dog, but the rest of the league’s rational fan base could see his dominance was fading. Within two years of his arrival, Durant quickly established himself as a contender to Lebron’s crown, by demonstrating the above skills while also winning the scoring title in just his sophomore season (and then winning it again, and again). While in this past season’s Finals, KD failed to emulate Penny’s 1995 triumph, it is hard to believe that we won’t see the Heat and Thunder match-up again in the near future. Only time can tell. 另一方面，kD進入聯盟時處在一個不一樣的統治級時代。是的，Lebron並沒有像MJ一樣已經拿到多個冠軍，但是在2007年季後賽以後基本上除了湖迷以外已經沒有人懷疑Lebron是聯盟第一人。但是一切都在KD進入聯盟後發生變化，兩年內KD已經成為足以挑戰 Lebron的那個人。而他在他的第二年以及接下來的第三第四年都拿到得分王。的確，與Penny在95年把老喬的公牛放倒不同，KD今年沒有打敗Lebron，不過不可否認熱火-雷霆的冠軍戲碼在不久後的將來應該會再度上演。只有時間會證明一切。 As we all know, it is hard to continue the comparison between Penny and KD beyond their first four seasons. By his fifth year in 97-98, Penny’s career was knocked off track by debilitating knee problems, from which he never truly recovered. While still considered one of the all-time greats, we will never truly know what could have been. That’s where Durant comes in. Entering his sixth season, Durant seems to have only fulfilled a piece of his potential. Having come so close to a championship, only to have it snatched away in a close Game 6, will hopefully do wonders for his career. Also, where Penny lost Shaquille O’Neal and was eventually traded away to Pheonix, the Thunder seem committed to not only Kevin, but his core teammates as well. Now, of course, injury can strike at any moment, and KD will likely suffer something horrible in spite of me writing this article. But in the meantime, we can hope. 而在第四季過後我們都知道我們不可能繼續比較兩者了，因為Penny在第五年受到的膝傷讓他基本上沒有辦法再回去了。 Penny在很多人的眼裡依然是個特別並且很有天份的偉大球員，不過卻留下了許多「如果」和遺憾，我們永遠不知道他如果健康能達到如何的境地。所以我認為KD的出現給了Penny球迷救贖。尤其健康的KD在雷霆的地位似乎會比Penny當時來的有保障一點，他不會遇到大歐離隊的打擊，雷霆也似乎不會把KD當交易籌碼，尤其雷霆不止對KD忠心，他們也盡力想留住整個核心陣容，而不像魔術一樣。當然，這些前提都在於KD不受太嚴重的傷。讓我們衷心期望（這不會發生）。＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝內容見仁見智，畢竟只是記者個人的blog，算是感想文，不過老人們回味一下Penny，年輕人則可以比較一下兩者異同。現階段打球像Penny的人我個人認為其實是沒有 ^^ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 72.34.128.248