[分享]VC的好....我們都知道^^

看板VinceCarter作者 (傑力陳)時間15年前 (2009/07/01 23:40), 編輯推噓18(18010)
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這幾天看了很多關於VC去魔術到底會不會比較好或是更差的新聞 而我想說的是,只要你是百分之百的VC迷一定知道VC的好...而在 這幾天逛了各大外國論壇,大家也是都在討論VC是否會帶來幫助 或是更有人也在批評VC老了..跳不高了..很會受傷...外線不好... 防守很爛等等....都還是停留在5,6年前的印象...真的覺得很受傷 不過還好,在netsdaily看到一篇寫得非常好的文章幫VC平反...^^... 所以想說利用我破破的英文分享給大家看看... Think it’s time for someone to clear up the misconceptions about Vince Carter once and for all. After he was traded today I spent a lot of time reading people’s thoughts about Vince on many different boards including the general board and of course the Orlando board. I saw that there’s so many misconceptions about him floating around still and I think now that he’s back in the limelight it’s time to clear up these misconceptions. 想想這是時後來陳清人們一直以來對VC的誤解。交易發生後,我一直注意各大版的討論 發現很多人對VC有所誤解,我認為VC已經回到眾人的焦點,是該好好陳清這些誤解 的時候了。 First, lets start off with the worst misconception and that is the “Vince is injury prone” misconception. In the last 5 years Vince has played 77, 79, 82, 76 and 80 games. So in the past 5 years he’s missed a total of 15 games. In those 15 games, I believe 3 of them were because the coach sat him out to rest him for the playoffs or because the season was pretty much over. So that means he’s only missed 12 games due to actual injury. Therefore in the past 5 years he has played in more regular season games than Kobe, Wade, Joe Johnson, Ray Allen, Allen Iverson, Paul Pierce, Manu Ginobili and many other all-star calibre SG’s/players. 第一誤解,VC是很會受傷,在過去五年來,VC打了77, 79, 82, 76, 80場,所以過去五 年只錯過15場,.....(以下說明...應該不用翻^^),重點是,Kobe, Wade, JoeJohnson, Ray Allen, Allen Iverson, Paul Pierce, Manu Ginobili這些all star缺賽都比VC多 所以他已經不是會受傷的人了。 Next misconception we have is the “Vince is only a scorer.” Since Vince has gone to NJ he has become one of the most complete SG’s in the league. He’s averaged basically over 21 PPG / 5 RPG / 5 APG in year he’s been in NJ. Last season when he averaged over 20/5/5 he was one of only THREE players in the league to do that. The other 2 players who did it were LeBron James and Kobe Bryant. The only other player who is usually in the 20/5/5+ company is Dwyane Wade. So as you can see that’s an elite company of players that average 20/5/5+ that Vince is apart of. Vince is also one of the most underrated passer’s in the league. He’ll find an open shooter every time down the floor. It’s no surprise why players like Bobby Simmons and Keyon Dooling shot career high’s in 3 pt % this year playing with Vince. All they had to do was sit in the corner waiting for him to pass it and hit open shots. I said during the playoffs that if the Magic had Vince he would make Dwight into a true superstar because the Magic run the same offense as the Nets. The offense I’m talking about is the screen and roll with the ball handler at the top of the 3 point line and the big man rolling to the basket. I said it during a Magic playoff game that the difference between how Vince runs it and how Hedo runs it is Vince always makes sure that the big man is the first option from the screen and roll. Whereas Hedo would always look away from Dwight and jack up a 3 or pass it to another 3 point shooter. Vince made a living with Nenad Krstic, Mikki Moore and Brook Lopez last year using this screen and roll offense. He always found them for an open dunk or an open jumper and if he didn’t he would make the proper play for himself or another teammate. Mark my words, Vince is going to turn Dwight into a true superstar player this season. 第二誤解,VC只是會得分,這裏作者提出很多例證,如今年VC是20/5/5,而聯盟達到此 成績只有LBJ Kobe VC wade,在來提到VC得助攻一直都被忽視,他又舉例說今年的Bobby 和dooling都是VC的受益者,還有VC合作的大個兒,也都是。他後來也說"記住我的話" VC會使魔獸成會真正的super star。 Next misconception, “Vince’s is old and lost his athleticism, he’s not that good anymore.” Well beside the fact that he’s only one of a few players in the league that consistently averages 20/5/5+, he’s still a top 5 SG in the league. The only SG’s over him right now are Kobe, Wade, Roy and Johnson. Secondly, while a lot of people say he’s old and lost his athleticism, sure he’s lost a lot of it compared to when he was young but he ’s still one of the most athletic players in the league. Just watch these videos from this past year and tell me this guy still isn’t athletic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTI-z0j9J-g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2PUXGwNvGM
另一個誤解VC老了跳不高了@@....這我翻也無用...眼見為憑.... 看了就知道.....(不過我是認為VC高度還是有的....只是心態轉變...要用不容易受傷的 方式來得分) Next misconception, “Vince can only dunk.” Well seeing as how some people are still living in 2000 and not 2009, I’ll let the cat out of the bag; Vince is one of the best shooters in the league. Vince is a career 38% 3 pt shooter and has shot over 40% from 3 in 3 seasons in his career. The only other all-star SG’s in the league right now who have shot over 40% from 3 in 3 or more seasons in their career are: Ray Allen. Only Ray Allen, who’s made a career from his shooting is the only other all-star SG that has shot over 40% from 3 in 3 or more seasons in their career. Vince also has unlimited range, here’s a few clips of his range: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzbgakGB7ZQ
(made 5 according to video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzM11_oN0ts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MGkufgRZvM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI-_3TzheJA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsHTlYQU1Lc
再來是VC只會灌籃,VC是聯盟中長射最好的人之一,生涯有三季三分命中率平均在40% 唯一達到此的則是ray gun所以VC三分不會比火槍兵差。而且range更加遠,看看影片 你就會了解。 Next misconception, “Vince is a loser and is not a leader.” So first of all, Vince is a loser. The thing with Vince is he’s never played on a great team before and now he’s finally going to get that chance. When he played on Toronto he was surrounded by a good core of veterans but he was the only scorer on that team. He took that team who’s second leading scorer was Antonio Davis to 1 shot from the ECF against the #1 seeded 76ers. Some will say he played with great teams in NJ but that’s false. He played with good teams, not great teams. When he first got to NJ he (along with Kidd) carried a team consisting of players like Jason Collins, a rookie Krstic, Brian Scalabrine, Billy Thomas, Ron Mercer, Jabari Smith, Jacque Vaughan, Zoran Planinic, Travis Best and Rodney Buford to the playoffs. Just think about that for a second, the amount of players from that team that are still in the NBA can be counted on 1 hand. Either way, Vince played with good NJ teams, not great NJ teams. He has never lost with HCA in the playoffs but has beat 2 teams without HCA. Every team he’s lost to in the playoffs has either made it to the ECF (Miami Heat), Finals (76ers, Cavs) or won the NBA championship (Miami Heat) so he’s always lost to the better team. 這一段主要說VC常被人認為一個輸家而不是一個領導者,而作者回應是當初VC所待的籃網 (剛來的那一年)基本上是就是一推小咖...而進季後賽之後輸的隊伍,都是打過總冠軍隊伍 ,所以不能以這情況來評判VC(這段我是覺得由時間來證明VC的領導力^^) As far as his leadership is concerned, he has become an amazing leader for young players. This season the Nets were supposed to be the worst team in the league but instead Vince brought a positive attitude from the beginning of the summer before the season to the end of the season. When the rookies and the team were playing in the Summer league in Orlando, he invited the whole team over to his house to get to know them and make their transition to the NBA easier. After the Jason Kidd trade he became the leader of the Nets and very good leader who has helped the young players on that team and really helped Devin Harris. This is what Thorn said about him, "His leadership was the best it's been since he's been here," Thorn said. "He always took a backseat to Jason when it came to those kinds of things. I think he considered it Jason's team, which it was. But his leadership qualities really came to the (forefront). I can't say enough about him. I think he played absolutely great from the time of the trade (on)." 這段就再說他今年的領導力,集合新秀到他家,並教導新秀如何適應NBA的比賽,而thorn 也稱讚他..(記得B-Lo也非常感謝VC..)所以VC的領導力在這季是無庸置疑的。 Last misconception, “Vince is a bad defender.” Vince is actually a very adequate defender. At times he may seem bad but that’s because he has had to carry the offensive load on pretty much every team he’s been on since his career started. He’s never been fortunate enough to play with a team of great offensive players so that he could spend more energy on D. Now that he’ s going to be playing on a great offensive team he’ll be able to spend more energy on D and people will be able to see he’s a much better defender than given credit for. When Vince tries on defense which he will be doing much more now that he’s going to be very motivated he is a very good defender. Vince and Kobe don’t like each other very much so when Vince plays against Kobe he D’s him up as well as anyone in the league. Since Carter has been in NJ and played against the Lakers these are the nights Kobe has had: 14-36 = .389% 9-24 = .375% 8-24 = .333% 4-13 = .308% 7-21 = .333% 3-13 = .231% 5-17 = .294% 5-19 = .263% 55- 167 = .329% So as you can see when Vince wants to D up he can be a pretty good defender. Anyways this has been a pretty long post and I hope people read it over and hopefully the misconceptions attached to Vince will go away. Go ahead and critisize Vince if he doesn’t succeed with the Magic because this is the first time he’s had a great team but I think it’s time to get over these misconceptions about him from the past. 最後一個是很多人說的,VC的防守...他舉了VC和Kobe同場時較勁的數據,如上 (其實這論點,我覺得不是很適合,因為並不是VC都是守KB,不過肯定的事,VC 的協防很好)而在大范的體系下,我相信,VC的防守是可以升級的,最後該作者 也提到繼續評論VC如果他在魔術不成功,因為這是VC第一次待在全NBA最佳的隊 之一。 最後,我只想說的是....一切就讓時間去證明...明年球季....VC將會證明一切 VC加油!! I'm the biggest fan of Vince's...... 只有真正的VC迷才知道VC的好...^^... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 122.124.0.152 ※ 編輯: jellychen 來自: 122.124.0.152 (07/01 23:42) ※ 編輯: jellychen 來自: 122.124.0.152 (07/01 23:45)

07/01 23:53, , 1F
推 我覺得魔術只要材料準備齊了 根本不用懷疑VC的能力
07/01 23:53, 1F

07/01 23:55, , 2F
希望能順利續約鍋貼,簽下希蛙,再找個合格的SF 如Hill
07/01 23:55, 2F

07/02 00:30, , 3F
攻擊形態改變大家是有目共睹,本來隨著年歲就不該一直飛
07/02 00:30, 3F

07/02 00:34, , 4F
第四誤解是說VC生涯有3個球季3pt%在4成以上,而非過去
07/02 00:34, 4F

07/02 00:34, , 5F
三季,不過還是感謝翻譯 推!! 這篇論點真好 :)
07/02 00:34, 5F

07/02 01:12, , 6F
我已經迫不及待看到VC在魔術的比賽了,因為那些誤解將不攻
07/02 01:12, 6F

07/02 01:13, , 7F
自破,身邊朋友都對VC有著相同的誤解,哀...
07/02 01:13, 7F

07/02 01:15, , 8F
其實重點是那些批評的人根本沒看NETS的比賽........傻眼
07/02 01:15, 8F

07/02 09:51, , 9F
其實 VC 的確在 NJN 成長不少 整個轉向成熟的球員
07/02 09:51, 9F

07/02 09:52, , 10F
或許在NJN後階段變得很辛苦 但整體一切 VC 還真的是要
07/02 09:52, 10F

07/02 09:53, , 11F
謝謝當初在他最不如意時 給他表現跟磨練的機會
07/02 09:53, 11F
※ 編輯: jellychen 來自: 140.96.62.173 (07/02 10:05) ※ 編輯: jellychen 來自: 140.96.62.173 (07/02 10:09) ※ 編輯: jellychen 來自: 140.96.62.173 (07/02 10:11)

07/02 11:56, , 12F
推一下這篇 專業! 也希望魔術能繼續補強
07/02 11:56, 12F

07/02 11:59, , 13F
MagicVC真是註冊王,哈
07/02 11:59, 13F

07/02 16:29, , 14F
VC帶來的絕對比Hedo帶走的多! 只是目前魔術陣容還有缺陷
07/02 16:29, 14F

07/02 16:31, , 15F
替補席上非常空洞,這是新球季的隱憂阿...
07/02 16:31, 15F

07/02 16:49, , 16F
批評VC,對於VC取代Hedo持悲觀看法的人 我想他們根本不了解
07/02 16:49, 16F

07/02 16:50, , 17F
VC這幾年在籃網的改變
07/02 16:50, 17F

07/02 18:44, , 18F
能補個原文連結嗎?看完這篇也導正我這個VC迷的一些看法感動
07/02 18:44, 18F

07/02 19:16, , 19F
大推 這篇讚
07/02 19:16, 19F

07/02 20:28, , 20F
當初超賽為了拿假奶也付出很多,讓板凳空蕩蕩
07/02 20:28, 20F

07/02 20:29, , 21F
可是後面越來越多人帶槍投靠,所以我想魔術還 ok 啦
07/02 20:29, 21F

07/02 20:59, , 22F
VC萬歲!!!!!
07/02 20:59, 22F

07/02 22:47, , 23F
大推 !! 有vc就有看頭
07/02 22:47, 23F

07/03 21:21, , 24F
推啦…
07/03 21:21, 24F

07/14 21:01, , 25F
我覺得其實可以轉到魔術隊版去看看耶 畢竟是新同學
07/14 21:01, 25F

07/25 13:35, , 26F
三分跟助功的確很強 高度我也是絕得有 只爆發力差了些 但k
07/25 13:35, 26F

07/25 13:39, , 27F
obe 彈跳比VC落得多 防守上協防跟解讀球賽的能力VC也是很
07/25 13:39, 27F

07/25 13:39, , 28F
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