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[轉載]Roxfans爭論姚明腳趾誰之過﹖

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http://bbs.sports.sohu.com/r-yaoming1-614389-0-5-0.html 球迷﹕Leslie Alexander said in the Chronical that he will be out for 7 to 10 days!! Ha....and all of you guys were worried. 火箭老板Leslie Alexander說隻用休息7到10天﹗哈﹐你們是杞人憂天。球迷﹕Isn't this before the "several weeks" quote? I hope Les is not rushing Yao back just so Rockets can make a little more money! 你是不是沒看到最新消息﹖我希望老板不要為了想掙錢﹐就急著讓姚明回來﹗ 球迷﹕That's what I don't understand. Our trainers see Yao almost everyday and if there were signs of infection he should have been taking antibiotics for quite some time now. 我就不明白了﹐我們的訓練師幾乎每天看著姚明一有感染的跡象就吃抗生素一直到現在。球迷﹕I think they wanted to wait it out, and hoped it could heal somehow . I remembered to read some Chinese article about an post game interview. In the locker room, Yao put his foot into some container full of some kind of liquid medication, while doing interview. I don't think it's a sudden thing, but rather it reaches a point they don't have any other options but surgery. 我想他們（球隊醫護）是想拖著﹐也希望多少給點治療。我記得看到一些中國的報道說﹐在更衣室接受采訪的時候﹐姚明一邊把他的腳放在一個裡面裝著藥水大盆子裡﹐ 一邊接受采訪。我認為這不是個突然的事件﹐這是已經到了別無選擇非要手術不可的地步了。球迷﹕What is it with the Rockets and diseases? Francis had that migraine thing, Juwan goes down for the playoffs with his heart thing, and now we lose Yao to a 2 and 10,000 chance disease that might be a chronic problem just as we start to turn things around. 怎麼火箭和傷病總聯系在一起﹖Francis有偏頭痛,Juwan有心臟病﹐現在我們正在復蘇的時候姚明居然得了這種隻有萬分之二機會才得的病還有可能變成頑疾球迷﹕Let's blame the hot and humid weather 要怪就怪這又熱又潮濕的天氣吧球迷﹕ok i just told my mom about yao's toe infection. right then she was like oh no its osteomyelitis. she said u have to be on antibiotics for 2 - 6 weeks. she said since its a toe..maybe 2 or 3 weeks. 我剛才跟我媽說姚明腳趾感染。然後她就“噢﹐不﹐是骨髓炎”。她說必須服用抗生素2－6周。一個腳趾嘛就2－3周。球迷﹕Where are the Yao haters now....!! Funny how people were hating all over Yao when he's playing.... Now that he's out indefinitly, everyone's worried that the rockets are lottery bound. 姚黑們現在跑哪兒去了……﹗ 真是有趣﹐姚明打球的時候大家怎麼那麼恨他﹐現在姚明缺陣了﹐每個人都那麼擔心火箭。球迷﹕Ugh.I guess this is Yao's reward for playing through pain. Had he just had this taken care of originally, it would have been far less time out. This blows. 噢﹐我猜這肯定是姚明肯定是忍著疼打球的結果。他要是早點治﹐肯定好得快的多。真是打擊啊。球迷﹕But this is my point. Yao have it taken care of? Every NBA team has very talented medical professionals that should know enough when to recommend when a player should see a specialist. How in hell could Yao - or T-Mac for that matter - go to a doctor that would tell him to "shut it down" when obviously the team that pays him millions is complacently treating the injury. This sort of thing happens every year. In some cases teams openly dispute "private" doctor's findings and brand the player lazy or weak (often anonymously through the press: remember Dream?) and have their doctors (the ones teams pay) to dispute the results. Right now I think the Rox organization may be feeling more desperate than many of us think, but I still don't understand why Yao has been playing on a badly infected toe. It was just either a wrong decision or lack of competence. 我的觀點﹐姚明之前治療過腳趾嗎﹖每支NBA球隊裡都有非常好的醫學專家知道球員到了什麼時候該去看醫生了。姚明是怎麼回事﹖－－或者TMAC出現這種事情－顯然當一隻球隊付了幾百萬美元的工資後去看一次醫生然後被告知“你得休息”就可以舒舒服服得意的治療。這種事每年都有﹐很多球隊公開和球員的“私人醫生”爭論的球員的懶惰（通常的口頭禪﹕還記得夢想嗎）和診斷結果。現在我覺得火箭管理層比我們想的還要絕望﹐但是我仍然不明白為什麼姚明在腳趾感染的時候還打球。這到底是個錯誤的決定（讓姚明拖著）還是根本沒這個能力（醫生水平差）球迷﹕Totally disagree. I don't care what kind of competitive spirit you have, when you sign a guy for the max over 6 yrs, you watch out for your investment. No way the Rockets would risk putting his future at risk when he hasn't even started earning his max contract yet. I'm sure it was the Rockets staff who made Yao fly home early Sunday 反對。我不管你有什麼樣的戰鬥精神﹐當你簽下6年大合同﹐你也會小心你的投資的。火箭絕對不會拿他的前途冒險更何況他的大合同還沒開始呢。我肯定是球隊醫護決定讓姚明周日就飛回來的球迷﹕Obviously, we disagree. The odds of this becoming a chronic condition though slight, yet are possible. It never ceases to amaze me how some people here (not you) still draw any Shaq comparison possible. And I do completely agree with you that it was our staff that sent him home early. My contention is that it wasn't early enough. As you said, Yao's a huge investment but every Rox season is also. I didn 't see Yao limping around during the road trip and no mention has been made of his foot getting stomped on. It smells "fishy" to me, period. And I too have my own terrible infected big toe story which I really just want to forget. 這個我當然反對。盡管留下病根的幾率很小﹐但是還是有可能的。這裡把大鯊魚拿出來做比較的人（不是你）從來沒停止過﹐真受不了。我完全認同是球隊醫護決定讓他提前回來﹐我們爭論的是他們處理不夠及時。姚明是筆大投資但是每個賽季同樣也是大投資﹐我們並沒有看到客場之旅姚明跛腳過也沒有誰提過他的腳被踩。那段時間看起來“很可疑”（火箭故意的）。我有段痛苦的腳趾感染的故事﹐我真的想忘掉它。球迷﹕Since the training camp or when he was back in China. There were reports around summer that said a doctor removed one of his toe nail and he removed another himself. After awhile, he said he will not remove it himself again because the one he removed himself just won't heal. 他從中國回到訓練營開始的。有個報道說醫生拿掉了他的一個腳趾甲﹐他自己拿掉了另一個。過了一陣子﹐他說他不該自己拿掉它﹐因為自己拿掉的那個腳趾沒有好好維護。球迷﹕Yao is clearly a very intelligent young man. What the hell is he doing treating himself, if that was the case during the summer, and why weren' t doctors on top of all this? It's enough to boggle the mind. I know a lot of injuries are things a player just can't help, and that doctors do what they can, with things turning out well, or not. Frequently, the results are somewhere between lousy and ideal. The players learn to live with the results, or they have to hang it up. This sounds like something a teenager would do, and one who isn't worth millions, both to himself and to his team. How he could escape proper treatment for this is bizarre, and yet here he is, out for weeks, at best, and the alternative doesn't bear thinking about. Get well, big fella. 姚明是個非常聰明的年輕人﹐幹嗎要自己治療﹖如果是夏天的事情﹐為什麼沒有頂尖的專家看看﹐真是亂來。我知道很多傷病球員是不需要幫忙的。醫生能幹的他們也能幹﹐接下來事情有好也有壞了。這種結果難測的事情很多﹐球員們習慣了忍受﹐要麼就不得不處理了。這聽起來就象個年輕人幹的事情﹐對於他自己和球隊而言﹐好像這不是一個值幾百萬的一個人。真奇怪他怎麼沒有治療呢。現在好了﹐6周﹐至少不用再猶豫要不要治療了好運﹐大個子球迷﹕Keith Jones is the best in the business. Nothing gets by him. I guarantee you he has been watching Yao's toe and he made the decision that enough was enough and sent him home to have it fixed right when he saw that it wasn 't healing right. By the way, for all you guys that think Yao is a wimp. Dude removed his own toenail. Wimp.............not. A little lame brained ..........possible. But wimp???? Nope. Keith Jones（體能訓練師）在這一行是最好的﹐沒什麼逃的過他的眼睛。我向你保証他早就知道姚明的腳趾並且當病情嚴重的時候就拖一拖﹐直到他發現怎麼也拖不了才讓姚明提前回來。順便說一句﹐你們都覺得姚明是軟蛋。伙計﹐拔掉你們自己的腳趾甲試試。軟蛋……不。可能……有點不清醒。但他是軟蛋嗎﹖﹖不﹗ 球迷﹕6 weeks?...thats gonna hurt....couldnt this infection been prevented ?...the rockets should of took better care of his toe after they removed his toe nail..i think this has to be on the rockets medical staff.... 6周﹖……真痛苦……這個感染能預防嗎﹖……球隊應該在他取掉腳趾甲的時候好好照顧……靠火箭那群醫療人員這種事情遲早的球迷﹕thats all and fine except for one thing. The infected toe is the one that Yao removed the nail himself, and he commented later that it wasnt healing right. Should they have kept an eye on his condition? Probably....but if Yao tells him that he will be alright, and it doesnt hurt that much so he can continue playing...then what are they to do? 除了這件事什麼都很順利。感染的腳趾是姚明自己取掉的那隻﹐後來他自己也說了沒有進行處理。他們（球隊醫護人員）就不知道看看他的情況嗎﹖ 可能……姚明告訴他們沒事﹐然後接著打球……他們都幹什麼吃的﹖ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 211.96.233.1