[分享] 未獲選MVP的偉大賽季

看板Baseball (棒球)作者 (polanco)時間1天前 (2024/09/18 10:40), 編輯推噓41(47636)
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去年Betts全票MVP2時官網整理的名單 https://atmlb.com/3MRyuCA 今年高機率再加一人 Mookie Betts (Dodgers), 2023 NL (second) Key stats: .987 OPS, 39 HR, 8.3 WAR Shohei Ohtani (Angels), 2022 AL (2nd) Key stats: 34 HR, 2.33 ERA, 219 SO Mike Trout (Angels), 2018 AL (2nd) Key stats: 39 HR, .460 OBP, 185 OPS+ Mike Trout (Angels), 2012 AL (2nd) Key stats: 30 HR, .963 OPS, 49 SB Ichiro Suzuki (Mariners), 2004 AL (7th) Key stats: .372 BA, 262 H, 36 SB Sammy Sosa (Cubs), 2001 NL (2nd) Key stats: 64 HR, 160 RBI, 425 total bases Todd Helton (Rockies), 2000 NL (5th) Key stats: .372 BA, 1.162 OPS, 147 RBI Pedro Martinez (Red Sox), 2000 AL (5th) Key stats: 1.74 ERA, 0.74 WHIP, 284 SO Alex Rodriguez (Mariners), 2000 AL (3rd) Key stats: 41 HR, 132 RBI, 10.4 bWAR Barry Bonds (Giants), 2000 NL (2nd) Key stats: 49 HR, 106 RBI, 117 BB, 188 OPS+, 7.7 bWAR Mark McGwire (Cardinals), 1998 NL (2nd) Key stats: 70 HR, 147 RBI, 162 BB Roger Clemens (Blue Jays), 1997 AL (10th) Key stats: 2.05 ERA, 292 SO in 264 IP Ken Griffey Jr. (Mariners), 1996 AL (4th) Key stats: 49 HR, 140 RBI, .628 SLG Barry Bonds (Pirates), 1991 NL (2nd) Key stats: .410 OBP, .924 OPS, 43 SB, 8 bWAR Dwight Gooden (Mets), 1985 NL (4th) Key stats: 1.53 ERA, 0.97 WHIP, 268 SO Rickey Henderson (Yankees), 1985 AL (3rd) Key stats: 80 SB, 146 R, .934 OPS Cal Ripken Jr. (Orioles), 1984 AL (27th) Key stats: 27 HR, .884 OPS, 10.0 bWAR Tom Seaver (Mets), 1973 NL (8th) Key stats: 2.08 ERA, 251 SO in 290 IP Steve Carlton (Phillies), 1972 NL (5th) Key stats: 1.97 ERA, 310 SO in 346.1 IP Gaylord Perry (Indians), 1972 AL (6th) Key stats: 1.92 ERA, 29 CG, 342.2 IP Wilbur Wood (White Sox), 1971 AL (9th) Key stats: 1.91 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, 334 IP Carl Yastrzemski (Red Sox), 1970 AL (4th) Key stats: 40 HR, .452 OBP, 1.044 OPS Willie Mays (Giants), 1962 NL (2nd) Key stats: 49 HR, 141 RBI, .999 OPS Mickey Mantle (Yankees), 1961 AL (2nd) Key stats: 54 HR, 128 RBI, .687 SLG Ted Williams (Red Sox), 1941 AL (2nd) Key stats: .406 BA, 1.287 OPS, 37 HR Hank Greenberg (Tigers), 1938 AL (3rd) Key stats: 58 HR, 147 RBI, 143 R Lou Gehrig (Yankees), 1934 AL (5th) Key stats: .363 BA, 49 HR, 166 RBI Babe Ruth (Yankees), 1931 AL (5th) Key stats: .373 BA, 46 HR, 162 RBI -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 42.77.199.209 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Baseball/M.1726627223.A.0A2.html

09/18 10:41, 1天前 , 1F
這算無冕王嗎
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09/18 10:42, 1天前 , 2F
再怎麼看 22大谷真的扯 還有15勝
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09/18 10:43, 1天前 , 3F
神鱒新人年那次也是戰的很兇
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09/18 10:44, 1天前 , 4F
怎麼有一隊特別多偉大賽季沒季後賽
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09/18 10:44, 1天前 , 5F
沒有RJ大叔?
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09/18 10:45, 1天前 , 6F
22年大谷很可惜啊,剛好遇到打出宰制數據的法官
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09/18 10:46, 1天前 , 7F
27轟 OPS.884的
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09/18 10:47, 1天前 , 8F
鐵人靠防守
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09/18 10:47, 1天前 , 9F
2022那個跟鬼一樣
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09/18 10:47, 1天前 , 10F
54轟還拿不到MVP…
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09/18 10:48, 1天前 , 11F
大谷22年完全就是被偷吧... 法官那個就是數據漂亮但對球隊
09/18 10:48, 11F

09/18 10:48, 1天前 , 12F
贏球其實沒有大幫助
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09/18 10:48, 1天前 , 13F
300多局怎投的啊==
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09/18 10:49, 1天前 , 14F
15勝30轟200K拿不到MVP 大檸檬真的好難
09/18 10:49, 14F

09/18 10:49, 1天前 , 15F
以前上谷都600局
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09/18 10:49, 1天前 , 16F
上古時代有600局的
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09/18 10:50, 1天前 , 17F
還有58轟的 夭獸
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09/18 10:51, 1天前 , 18F
還有64轟 70轟的也沒MVP
09/18 10:51, 18F

09/18 10:51, 1天前 , 19F
Nolan Ryan不在榜上啊…?
09/18 10:51, 19F

09/18 10:52, 1天前 , 20F
沒有Matt Kemp? 那才是真正被偷的
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09/18 10:52, 1天前 , 21F
2022最扯
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09/18 10:52, 1天前 , 22F
@chemis照你邏輯大谷贏mvp那兩年天使連五成勝率都不到 所
09/18 10:52, 22F

09/18 10:52, 1天前 , 23F
以也只是數據漂亮但對球隊沒大幫助
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09/18 10:53, 1天前 , 24F
Ted怎麼只上榜一年啊,他有五次OPS第一而且BR的WAR
09/18 10:53, 24F

09/18 10:53, 1天前 , 25F
也第一但沒拿到MVP欸XDDDD
09/18 10:53, 25F

09/18 10:53, 1天前 , 26F
可能第二名比他數據更好吧
09/18 10:53, 26F

09/18 10:54, 1天前 , 27F
只能排第三..所以沒上榜/
09/18 10:54, 27F

09/18 10:54, 1天前 , 28F
都很扯耶這些MVP2的數據
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09/18 10:55, 1天前 , 29F
1961的Mantle戰爭指數10.4輸給只有6.9的Maris
09/18 10:55, 29F

09/18 10:55, 1天前 , 30F
4割,還是全壘打打擊雙冠,BB147 SO27整整差120次!ops1
09/18 10:55, 30F

09/18 10:55, 1天前 , 31F
.287 ops+235,這樣還沒MVP 投票者是智障嘛
09/18 10:55, 31F

09/18 10:56, 1天前 , 32F
以前或者看戰績跟三冠王這些比較多..
09/18 10:56, 32F

09/18 10:56, 1天前 , 33F
我首推262安
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09/18 10:56, 1天前 , 34F
10幾年前的MVP還是很看球隊戰績的,所以很多鬼神成績
09/18 10:56, 34F

09/18 10:56, 1天前 , 35F
都沒拿MVP
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09/18 10:57, 1天前 , 36F
法官: 沒差R 我照偷
09/18 10:57, 36F

09/18 10:57, 1天前 , 37F
三振王萊恩的數據從來就不是最頂的 沒上榜很正常
09/18 10:57, 37F

09/18 10:58, 1天前 , 38F
那個講偷的還敢提球隊戰績啊,真的笑死
09/18 10:58, 38F

09/18 10:58, 1天前 , 39F
媒體不喜歡你就...
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09/18 10:59, 1天前 , 40F
論偷 誰比得過在弱隊刷數據的大谷
09/18 10:59, 40F

09/18 11:00, 1天前 , 41F
70轟沒MVP
09/18 11:00, 41F

09/18 11:05, 1天前 , 42F
太反串了
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09/18 11:15, 1天前 , 43F
22年大谷輸在審美疲勞 如果那年打擊再強一點 就難說了
09/18 11:15, 43F

09/18 11:17, 1天前 , 44F
Albert Belle呢?95年打擊成績到球隊戰績全贏啊
09/18 11:17, 44F

09/18 11:18, 1天前 , 45F
22年天使分區墊底,洋基分區龍頭,如果說法官刷數據對
09/18 11:18, 45F

09/18 11:18, 1天前 , 46F
贏球沒幫助,那大谷怎麼辦,刷數據帶球隊輸球喔
09/18 11:18, 46F

09/18 11:19, 1天前 , 47F
Mo Vaughn95年打擊成績都球隊全輸甚至WAR只有4.3
09/18 11:19, 47F

09/18 11:20, 1天前 , 48F
怎麼看都是70轟沒mvp比較扯
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09/18 11:24, 1天前 , 49F
1998年為啥不是McGwire啊,光是從打擊來看,ops直接差0
09/18 11:24, 49F

09/18 11:24, 1天前 , 50F
.2耶,這才叫被偷MVP吧
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09/18 11:26, 1天前 , 51F
小學生不知道 2022洋基美東冠軍?不知道法官11.1WAR? 對贏
09/18 11:26, 51F

09/18 11:26, 1天前 , 52F
球沒幫助?
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09/18 11:27, 1天前 , 53F
神右真的也可惜,在藥補巨炮年代的美東可以連七年ERA不到
09/18 11:27, 53F

09/18 11:27, 1天前 , 54F
3是什麼鬼壓制力
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09/18 11:36, 1天前 , 55F
Y225: Albert Belle呢 他當年跟媒體關係出了名的糟
09/18 11:36, 55F

09/18 11:36, 1天前 , 56F
2000年真的慘,聯盟最強只有第5
09/18 11:36, 56F

09/18 11:37, 1天前 , 57F
他沒拿mvp比較像是媒體賭爛他的結果
09/18 11:37, 57F

09/18 11:38, 1天前 , 58F
大谷那個最扯 完完全全被偷的
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09/18 11:38, 1天前 , 59F
馬怪98年沒拿mvp的理由大概是紅雀那年沒進季後賽?
09/18 11:38, 59F

09/18 11:39, 1天前 , 60F
1941也很扯,4成打擊率1.287 OPS
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09/18 11:41, 1天前 , 61F
大谷被偷是什麼平行世界嗎 說出來都不覺得丟臉欸XD
09/18 11:41, 61F

09/18 11:42, 1天前 , 62F
1941年威廉斯4成打擊率很扯 但他mvp輸給連56場安打的那位
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09/18 11:42, 1天前 , 63F
鈴木一朗第七!?
09/18 11:42, 63F

09/18 11:44, 1天前 , 64F
以前很吃戰績還有球員個性
09/18 11:44, 64F

09/18 11:50, 1天前 , 65F
看那個id就知道的確活在平行世界
09/18 11:50, 65F

09/18 12:01, 1天前 , 66F
70轟沒有MVP真的浮誇XDD
09/18 12:01, 66F

09/18 12:05, 1天前 , 67F
為什麼不是今年高機率再加兩人?
09/18 12:05, 67F

09/18 12:12, 1天前 , 68F
1990年代那幾位都可能要******
09/18 12:12, 68F

09/18 12:12, 1天前 , 69F
就以前都要進季後賽才有機會才會這樣
09/18 12:12, 69F

09/18 12:23, 1天前 , 70F
pedro 當年潛規則投手不能拿MVP 真的可惜
09/18 12:23, 70F

09/18 12:35, 1天前 , 71F
應該列出全部的bwar fwar 看起來比較有概念吧
09/18 12:35, 71F

09/18 12:44, 1天前 , 72F
00年的Pedro最扯吧,那時還是禁藥年代,投手ERA幾乎都4以
09/18 12:44, 72F

09/18 12:44, 1天前 , 73F
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09/18 12:46, 1天前 , 74F
10幾20年前MVP會考慮球隊戰績,不完全只看球員本身成績
09/18 12:46, 74F

09/18 12:54, 1天前 , 75F
是說為什麼Mookie的2023是用 NL (second),其他年第
09/18 12:54, 75F

09/18 12:54, 1天前 , 76F
二名的都是用 (2nd) XDDDD
09/18 12:54, 76F

09/18 12:56, 1天前 , 77F
鈴木第七那年時間是打破年度安打數紀錄只排第七
09/18 12:56, 77F

09/18 13:34, 1天前 , 78F
棒球刷數據會傷害球隊?又不會搶其他隊友的打席 數
09/18 13:34, 78F

09/18 13:34, 1天前 , 79F
據刷越多不就代表貢獻越多嗎? 邏輯?
09/18 13:34, 79F

09/18 13:40, 1天前 , 80F
谷迷不要害我笑到噴便當出來
09/18 13:40, 80F

09/18 14:08, 1天前 , 81F
蠱迷真的可憐 22年兩種War都大輸 還人家偷MVP
09/18 14:08, 81F

09/18 14:22, 1天前 , 82F
22真的可惜
09/18 14:22, 82F

09/18 14:23, 1天前 , 83F
64轟沒MVP,也證明禁藥真的強得太誇張
09/18 14:23, 83F

09/18 14:28, 1天前 , 84F
看推文就知道reddit上說法官迷普遍盲目是真的 XD
09/18 14:28, 84F

09/18 14:59, 1天前 , 85F
盲目?噗,道地是哪邊比較盲目呢
09/18 14:59, 85F

09/18 15:22, 1天前 , 86F
樓樓上每天自曝其短,還不從井底投胎嗎
09/18 15:22, 86F

09/18 15:34, 1天前 , 87F
War就輸還法官對勝場沒貢獻 雲迷真的來搞笑的哈哈哈
09/18 15:34, 87F

09/18 15:35, 1天前 , 88F
去FB看看蠱迷都是些什麼貨色就知道了 跟風雲迷哈哈哈
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09/18 20:54, 20小時前 , 89F
2000怎麼一堆怪物
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